My Villain Origin Story (...# Whatever) Will Be People Thinking There Is Some Sort Of Prophecy About

My villain origin story (...# whatever) will be people thinking there is some sort of prophecy about Astyanax killing Odysseus/Achaeans if he's left alive.

There is not any such thing in any actual source about Greek myth and the Trojan war.

The Horse and the Infant having Zeus use that to convince Odysseus is an Epic thing only.

(So please for the love of everything do not talk about some ~prophecy~ and then tag regular greek myth related tags because it doesn't apply to the actual Trojan war!)

The way so many "feminist" retellings actually give their women less agency makes me want to bite someone

I just read someone commenting that Odysseus is the most suffering of the Achaeans because… he's a father? Like, yeah, it's sad for him and Telemachus, but he's literally not the only father who misses his children. He didn't suffer more than anyone else because of it.

When Agamemnon went to Troy, Orestes was just a baby. And Agamemnon complains to Odysseus that Clytemnestra wouldn't let him see Orestes, so he didn't even get to see his son's face after 10 years. And contrary to popular belief, Agamemnon WAS saddened by Iphigenia's sacrifice (depending on the version, she is alive. But there is no way for Agamemnon to know this as we see in Iphigenia at Tauris, so either way for him she was dead). And he had other daughters!

Achilles didn't even get to raise Neoptolemus. And contrary to popular belief, he did care about Neptolemus. While mourning the death of Patroclus, he literally uses the idea of ​​losing Peleus and Neoptolemus as a metric for his grief. Not only that, he talks about how he planned for Patroclus to take care of Neoptolemus, which indicates that he was thinking about his son. He asks Odysseus about Neoptolemus, showing that he thought of him even after he died. Depending on the myth, his ghost appears to Neoptoleums after Odysseus recruits him.

When Menelaus went to Troy, he left nine-year-old Hermione behind. Unlike the others, she didn't even have a mother at home.

Nestor went to war with two of his sons, one of whom (Antilochus) was not only too young for war but also died in it. And Nestor is shown mourning Antilochus, it was horrible for him. And not only that, Antilochus wasn't even the youngest, Nestor had younger sons (and daughters!) at home.

So this whole thing about Odysseus suffering more because he's a father doesn't make any sense. Why does anyone need to have a "I suffered more" medal in the first place?

(It wasn't on Tumblr, no point looking for the post)

Nothing can make me happy:

3,000-year-old epic exists

The Iliad and the Odyssey will fix my life <3

Bonus:

Odysseus about Panelope

Apollo Why does he look like that

LOOK AT HIM So silly....

HERACLES FUCKED A WHAT