I Know I Made One Follow Up Post But I Decided To Make One More Since When I Looked At Twitter I Was

I know I made one follow up post but I decided to make one more since when I looked at Twitter I was reminded of a few images and a more recent one.

Going back to the wither roses and who Karl is often found with them, we have seen them when Karl wasn’t around, of course they appeared near L’manberg but, there was also one in the Syndicate base:

Of course it might just be a choice of decoration but there is more. When Hannah returned to the server and went to her house and found it covered in blood vines the roses around her house had changed too, they were all white.

and in the latest Tales From The SMP poster what do we see near the crown? :

A wither rose and a white flower.

And that’s kinda it! If I think of anything else I’ll be sure to add it but ya thanks for looking at my ramble!

I think it’s pretty safe to say that Foolish isn’t the mysterious 5th member of the Antarctic Syndicate, Harpocrates purely because of how Phil and him interacted. Which leaves a few candidates mainly: Dream (because him and Techno have worked together in the past), Puffy (Because of her hatred for the egg), Hannah (because of her association with roses) or Callahan (because he never talks and could keep secrets).

Personally I don’t think it will be Hannah or Puffy since when Techno talked about who it was he used ‘he’. So looking at the male members I don’t believe it could be: George, Sapnap, Sam, Jack, Connor, Vikk, Lazar, Charlie, Eret, HBomb or Purpled purely because of the lack of solid evidence.

However looking back at who Harpocrates is [god of silence and secrets in religion] and how he is symbolised [symbol is a rose] makes me think there is a possibility of him being Karl. In Tales From The SMP when Karl is in the Inbetween there are always Wither Roses also he has been shown to keep secrets close to his chest even from Sapnap and Quackity who are his fiancés.

Feel free to talk about you’re ideas I like reading them (you’re all really funny sometimes!) and if I end up being wrong then it is what it is.

EDIT: FOLLOW UP post about Karl’s connection to Kinoko Kingdom

Ya know... Tommy's character sometimes reminds me of Mabel from Gravity Falls and not in a good way

(I'm tired and I'll explain in the morning)

Foolish (clearly joking): and here’s the final control room!

Chat (who probably still has flashbacks):

Tubbo: Do you think anyone has cooked an egg with their own pee?

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No comment -_-

Puffy's therapy office is already better than the one I go to irl

Right so someone pointed out that Karl founded Kinoko Kingdom which I guess would technically count as a government so thanks for pointing that out!

Anyway, my explanations for this isn’t 100% fleshed out but here we go. Techno and Phil made it clear that anyone in the Syndicate can leave anytime they want, no one can force them to stay. Another fact is that both the Syndicate and Karl don’t like the The Egg, Techno see’s it as a government and Karl protected Quackity from Bad by asking for him to meet him away from the egg. I think this is what led to Karl talking and then possibly working with Techno. 

About Kinoko Kingdom I think either Karl joined without telling Techno about it (more likely) or Techno knows about it but since their only common goal is to deal with the The Egg, Karl’s planning to leave when The Egg is gone.

Hopefully this makes sense, I would’ve put this in the original post but I didn’t have it fleshed out and I was a little stumped. Hopefully this clears up my theory/ramble a bit more!