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PLEASE GATHER ALL AROUND AND JOIN IN !!! THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND I LOVE THIS FANDOM SO MUCH !!!

PLEASE GATHER ALL AROUND AND JOIN IN !!! THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND I LOVE THIS FANDOM SO MUCH !!!

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1 year ago

Part 2!

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1 year ago

Aziraphale can feel the love someone has toward other ones (Gabriel/Bee) and places (Paintball field). As you said, he never talked about any love he feels from Crowley before. Maybe he's just used to it ? Maybe there is really nothing to feel because he can't ?

But I don't think Aziraphale didn't have any clue or thought about Crowley's love for him, for some reasons that we can see. I just think this is all about "to get the best scenario as possible", but the best scenario for Aziraphale is different from the best one for Crowley.

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Crowley can't feel love from others, but he is able to love things (Queen's music, last centuries, Bentley, plants without flaws, driving through a wall of fire, driving too fast, imagination & creativity) and living beings (AZIRAPHALE IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED and some humans at lower intensity). I think Aziraphale knows he's able to love, even if Crowley is bad at talking and saying what/who he likes/loves, and the angel knows it either. This is why asking him directly is the best thing to do when Aziraphale doesn't understand.

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

Did he felt Crowley likes the bookshop ? Or did he draw the conclusion he likes the shop by the time he spends inside and the way he takes off his glasses there ? Both lead to the idea that Crowley can love places and things and Aziraphale knows it, so no problem for that.

What about loving human people ?

We can say that Crowley (at least) appreciates people or has empathy. He has no problem to use behaviour and words for some humans to show it :

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

Under this joke, Crowley thinks that Jesus was pretty great for a being of his age and his kind, so he offered him to travel and discover new territories. He was sent by Hell to tempt him, but instead, he did him a favor, not seeing anything wrong about showing him parts of the world.

Jesus isn't the only human Crowley feels this way about : he helps Job and his wife to keep their children (and actually seems to like Jemimah who's cute, clever and creative), he helps Elspeth by giving her Aziraphale's money, asks in vain God why is the point in testing human to destruction with a sad face in Season 1, saves humans at the reunion in the bookshop in season 2, etc.

He shouldn't get too attached to humans, he says... Well : it seems that he's doing the opposite.

What about loving Aziraphale romantically ?

Well...the Agreement.

The Agreement started some time before the Shakespear flashback. But when exactly ? We know that in the flashback of The Knights of the Round Table that Aziraphale didn't agree with the idea, so we know before the Knights, the Agreement didn't exist.

Though, Crowley knew Aziraphale LOOOOOOOONG before this moment, and went by himself to see Aziraphale several times without any reason to do so, even if demons and angels are supposed to hate each other.

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

At The Beggining, after Adam and Eve left the Garden, Crawley chats with Aziraphale. He was the reason why Eve ate the fruit, but just as he didn't see any problem about his task with Jesus, here Crawley doesn't understand why telling her to take a bite was a Bad thing to do, and even suppose that might have been the Right thing to do, according to the Ineffable Plan.

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

We know big yellow eyes mean stress for Crowley : after humans left, he understands that maybe his action was a Good think to do, so it can bring suffering from Hell for him. And what does he do when he is worried about that ? Going to Aziraphale and talk.

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

So without any Agreement, he went to see an angel, an ennemy he's supposed to hate, so he might have an explanation about God's Plan, according to feel less stressed. Why seeking relief from someone on the opposite side ?

There's also another thing we can notice here :

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

Crowley remember that Aziraphale had a flaming sword. A lot of people would say "nothing weird : a flamming sword is unforgettable", but a War between angels and demons should have a lot of weird weapons and special effects. Moreover, we're talking about Crowley here : how could Crawley remember that during the battle ? He can barely remember people names/face/existence, even if they were side by side at important moments !

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

He says he meets a lot of people, who are offended to be forgotten by him, while all those people remember small little details about their work together.

Aziraphale seems to be the only one to have a big place in Crowley's memory since The Beggining, with small little details this snake didn't forget. Several other moments happen like this one :

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

During Noah's arc, he rushes towards Aziraphale, naming him correctly without hesitation, and openly ask how's he going since the flaming sword giving problem. Too much details from him, after a little talk that happened in the Garden, on my opinion.

On Aziraphale's side, the angel might have notice at least that Crowley do not hesitate to check on him (while something bigger is happening next to them), talking about life and God's Plan, and most of all, Crowley REMEMBERS the little details about the angel in their dialogues, even if it's not really important.

We know that Hell is violent when it goes to punish demons, and also that Heaven is always cold and monitoring every moves, putting a lot of pression on angels, or just treating the others as frostily as possible. Aziraphale has the chance to get someone to talk to, and he loves that. Does Crowley love that as much ? Of course ! Why would he talk to Aziraphale for this long if it was not the case ? The angel should be aware of that, but they barely use the word "friend" to talk about each other...

Then, the Agreement !

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

It was this Agreement that allowed them to increase the number of their meetings and to bond for life. It is not a simple bond : there is nothing temporary about it, it is constantly present, and it allows each one to help the other in the event that something goes wrong, forever, as long as everything is okay. Wait-

HOW CAN'T AZIRAPHALE SEE THE PARALLEL WITH A WEDDING HERE ? ISN'T HE A BIG FAN OF PLAYS AND NOVELS WITH ROMANCE IN THE PLOT ? ROMEO AND JULIET BY WILLIAM SHAKES-FREAKIN-PEAR, AZIRAPHALE !

Well, let's say that he's just blind, or maybe their meetings was not so often to help him to connect the points.

Let's also admit that he doesn't notice how much informations Crowley remembers about Aziraphale's tastes in everything. Why would he gather so much informations about him ?

Even without that, they have a lot of moments like those :

Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).
Aziraphale Can Feel The Love Someone Has Toward Other Ones (Gabriel/Bee) And Places (Paintball Field).

Suggesting leaving then going both on a star Crowley made...several times...and giving away this opportunity to Gab and Bee who just went there, instead of Azi and Crowley. Sadness is here.

You had your chance, Azira-fail...now it's too late.

The Final 15 - Aziraphale’s Perspective

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

I see a lot of empathy for Crowley’s experience during the final 15 minutes of season 2 and it makes sense that we feel deeply for him. What he is experiencing is very human - acknowledging the depth of his own feelings, plucking up the courage to say something, having it come out all wrong, feeling utterly rejected, and then walking away in a mix of pain and anger. Who among us hasn’t been there?

But Aziraphale is experiencing something more complicated, something fewer of us have analogs for. Aziraphale has internally acknowledged his feelings for Crowley for some period of time, probably at least since 1941. Michael Sheen confirms this mental state in a NYCC 2018 interview:

“I decided early on that Aziraphale just loves Crowley. And that’s difficult for him because they are on opposite sides and he doesn’t agree with him on stuff. But it does really help as an actor to go, ‘My objective in this scene is to not show you how much I love you and just gaze longingly at you.’”

Unlike Crowley, Aziraphale’s struggle isn’t acknowledging his feelings. His struggle appears to be two-fold: 1) believing that Crowley could ever love him back and 2) even if Crowley did love him, believing a future for the two of them together could exist within the restrictions of his larger world view.

Can Crowley love?

Angels are, traditionally, beings of love. We see Aziraphale embody this time and again, showing kindness and support to almost everyone he meets, including the amnesiac Gabriel who has treated him abominably in the past. He is attuned to love, remarking on how the area around Tadfield “feels loved” twice in Season 1. As for how Aziraphale personally understands and expresses love, he shows his love to others through verbal affirmation and, to a lesser extent, physical touch. There are many examples of Aziraphale expressing his love for Crowley through positive verbal affirmation, typically by praising him for instances where he has been kind, nice, or good. And on the rare occasions when Aziraphale receives verbal praise, he absolutely interprets it as an expression of love, blossoming with happiness.

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective
The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

But from Aziraphale’s perspective, it may be unclear if Crowley can feel love in the same way. Can demons love? Did he lose that capability when he fell? Crowley can’t feel the aura of love in Tadfield that Aziraphale remarks on, and his reactions to Aziraphale’s praise are always to shrug it off, tell Aziraphale to “shut up,” or in the most extreme case to physically slam him against a wall and get in his face about it. In this last instance he tells Aziraphale, “I’m a demon, I’m not nice. I'm never nice. Nice is a four-letter word.” A four-letter word, like love, that is not in Crowley’s self-defined vocabulary.

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

If Crowley can feel love, does he love Aziraphale?

Even if Aziraphale believes Crowley is capable of feeling love, he does not always recognize how Crowley expresses it in the moment. Crowley shows his love for Aziraphale through actions, but Aziraphale often misconstrues Crowley’s motivations. In 1793 when Crowley rescues him from the Bastille, Aziraphale initially assumes Crowley is only there because he is responsible for the Reign of Terror. Similarly, in 1941, Aziraphale’s reaction to Crowley’s appearance is to assume he’s just part of the Nazi gang, saying,“I should have known. Of course. These people are working for you!”

Crowley doesn’t help matters in this regard because he is constantly muting and undercutting his signals to Aziraphale. Every time Crowley expresses his love for Aziraphale through actions - rescuing him, saving his books, even taking him to lunch - he does so in a nonchalant, dismissive manner, indicating he ascribes little value or importance to the actions he has performed. “I just didn’t want to see you embarrassed,” he says when he appears in 1941. And when Aziraphale positively glows with happiness about his books being saved, Crowley tells him to “shut up."On top of these confusing signals, Crowley is almost pathologically incapable of expressing his feelings in the verbal love language that Aziraphale can understand. This is heartbreakingly demonstrated in this scene after the bookshop fire:

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

Crowley can’t even say “I lost you.” Instead he speaks of Aziraphale in the third person while sitting in front of him, saying, “I lost my best friend.” The little hitch on Aziraphale’s face when he hears this is just devastating. Who is Crowley talking about? The last conversation they had before this scene was when Aziraphale called while Hastur was in Crowley’s apartment and Crowley said, “Not a good time - got an old friend here.” Aziraphale is left to wonder - is that who Crowley means when he says "best friend?" Crowley is everything to Aziraphale, but what is he to Crowley?

How Would It Even Work?

Even when Aziraphale does get flashes of the possibility that Crowley may care for him he immediately runs up against his second mental block - there is no world he can imagine where they could be together. When Crowley first suggests running off together in the bandstand scene in S1E3, Aziraphale collapses under the thought: “Friends? We aren’t friends. We are an angel and a demon. We have nothing whatsoever in common. I don’t even like you.”

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

While he is obviously in denial, Aziraphale is also under tremendous stress in this moment and is desperately trying to hold onto some stability by falling back onto his world view and ideology. In this state he backpedals all the way to “I don’t even like you.” In his understanding of the way the universe is supposed to work, he and Crowley are hereditary enemies and should not even be friends, much less in love. Aziraphale expresses this core belief throughout the series. What kind of existence could they ever have together in reality?

The Final 15

With this as a background, we can better understand what Aziraphale experiences in the final 15 minutes. Even before the Metatron enters the scene, Aziraphale begins to have his fundamental beliefs challenged which puts him off his footing. The revelation that Gabriel and Beelzebub are in love is deeply impactful. When Beelzebub says “I just found something that mattered more to me than choosing sides” and takes Gabriel’s hand, Aziraphale immediately reaches out to make contact with Crowley, a look of incredulity on his face. Here is proof that demons can feel love and that an angel and a demon can carve out a space together. The road may be difficult, but it is not impossible.

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

Before Aziraphale can digest this revelation the stakes are ratcheted up: Michael threatens to erase Aziraphale from the Book of Life due to his part in hiding Gabriel. The future that Aziraphale has just barely glimpsed is already under siege. It is at this point that The Metatron enters, offering Aziraphale not just survival and protection, but a version of everything he has ever wanted.

If Crowley is reinstated as an angel, Aziraphale will no longer have to wonder whether Crowley is capable of feeling love. And if they are both angels, there will be no conflict inherent in having a life together. In one fell swoop, the Metatron entices Aziraphale with a future where there are no remaining blockers to an eternal, loving existence with Crowley. It will be “like the old times, only even nicer” because they now have millennia of their shared history to build on together. Of course this logic is horribly flawed and does not take into account at all what Crowley wants, but in the moment it must feel like an enormous gift to Aziraphale.

Unfortunately, not only is Crowley’s reaction to this “incredibly good news” not what Aziraphale expects, the conversation quickly takes a baffling turn for him. Crowley shuts down the talk about returning to heaven and attempts to say what he wants to say. Sadly he once again utterly fails to speak in a way that Aziraphale can understand.

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

The audience knows what Crowley is trying to say because we have the context of his earlier conversation with Maggie and Nina. But Aziraphale lacks that and thus can’t understand where this is coming from or what it means. Rather than expressing his feelings as Beelzebub and Gabriel did, Crowley recites facts: we’ve known each other a long time, we’ve been on this planet a long time, I could always rely on you, you could always rely on me. He can’t even say the word “couple” when he describes them, referring to them more as colleagues with words like “team” and “group.” And the one time he does try to express his feelings and desires he is physically unable to get out the words: “And I would like to spend—.” He then retreats into his old plea to turn away from heaven and hell and run off together. Nowhere in Crowley’s confession does Aziraphale hear “I love you” or even “I want to be with you.” What he hears instead is what he’s heard multiple times before - Crowley wants to abandon both heaven and hell and default to just the two of them. From Aziraphale’s perspective this will not solve anything for them. They will still be an angel and a demon, at some level fundamentally separated by their very natures.

Having failed in his speech, Crowley then does two things in rapid succession that must be excruciatingly painful for Aziraphale. First, he does the opposite of verbal affirmation by calling Aziraphale an idiot. We have seen Aziraphale become physically radiant in the rare instances where Crowley has praised him, so a direct insult like this must feel poisonous. Then Crowley makes a last desperate attempt to communicate through Aziraphale’s other love language - physical touch - by initiating the kiss. But without context or understanding of what is behind it, Aziraphale can initially only experience it as forceful, angry, and shocking. With more time to parse it I think Aziraphale will come to understand Crowley’s meaning, but in the moment it must feel manipulative and borderline cruel.

The Final 15 - Aziraphales Perspective

The Results

In a very compressed time frame, Aziraphale has to move quickly and radically through multiple mental and emotional states. For 6000 years he has believed he and Crowley cannot be together. Suddenly, with the revelation of Gabriel and Beezlebub, that foundational belief is challenged. Before he can work through what that could mean for him and Crowley, the Metatron offers an even cleaner solution - they can be protected from retribution and be on the same side again. When Crowley rejects reinstatement wholesale, it makes Aziraphale feel that he and his loving offer of a life together have been personally rejected. Then that rejection is further confused through the shocking experience of the kiss which Aziraphale does not have adequate context for or time to understand and integrate. In his emotional turmoil, Aziraphale falls back on his default crutch for dealing with sadness and anger - forgiveness - which further cuts him off from Crowley. Taken all together, this is a tumultuous rollercoaster of whiplash emotions that pull at every part of Aziraphale's self- and world-views.

Compared to what Crowley is going through, I think Aziraphale is going to have the tougher road in Season 3. Crowley may still need to better reconcile and integrate his feelings for Aziraphale, but Aziraphale has 6000 years of foundational ideology to challenge and evolve to reach a place where he and Crowley can be together as their authentic selves.


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Really amazed by all this work ! It's like we are lost with Blitzo in his pain and mind. Thank you for this and for existing, @impmansloot !!! ♥

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