By That Logic, Does The Person Refuse To Call Themselves A Human Because Humans Historically Have A Problem

By that logic, does the person refuse to call themselves a “human” because humans historically have a problem with racism? Do they wholeheartedly reject their own gender, race, nationality, hometown, and alma mater because other people from that category have been Problematic? And do they bother people who insist on using labels or belonging to communities that this person believes also include The Bads? Or does this only apply to online fandom for…hmmmmm……Reasons

That anon was a known troll. Shortly after I refused to entertain their argument they started spamming me with 40+ eccentric and threatening asks and turned to other blogs to spam them with the same asks and bait.

I don't mind bait when the person has unknowingly given me the perfect opportunity to counter it, educate people and allow people a speak-piece, but once the angry spam started they got an instant block.

You're the one making an assumption here... I never said everyone who ships is bad. I mean that there's enough of a problem with shipping that I and others feel uncomfortable associating with shipping culture. I'm saying more people should try to address issues with bigotry in their fandoms instead of acting like reality and fiction *never ever* interact. Proship is just a bad term and I hate that it's so common (so is anti)

Where did I make the assumption?

When you said:

"I'm not an anti, but I'm still going to criticize people for ignoring female characters or characters of color for the sake of only ever shipping boring white men"?

How about when you said:

"Proship sounds like you just ship totally uncritically which isn't any better than ONLY criticizing"?

And then there's:

"Proship is a bad term and I hate that its so common."

If you can't even recognise, understand and respect the literal definition of and history of a term, you are simply not ready or in a position to be trying to grandstand about it or argue about it. If you want to talk about bigotry, how about the female actors who get paid a fraction of what their male co-stars do?

How about authors of color who are told to use a white-presenting pen name in order to sell more books?

How about the fact that abortions are being controlled by religious fascists who are coming for birth control next?

How about the fact that China won't allow any form of queer representation in movies even if its only implied?

No? You're just mad that people aren't buying into the ship where the female character's sole role in the movie is to be the 2D love interest who's entire personality boils down to owning breasts and being either quirky or hypersexual?

I see.

I'm not an anti but I think it's disingenuous to say that proshop is "anti harassment" because, just like I've seen antis engage in harassment, I have also seen proshippers engage in that behavior. Antis claim they just block not engage, and the same is true with proshippers, even if there are demonstratable cases of harassment carried out by the person claiming there's "no harassment". Harassment is rampant in fandom spaces and there are always going to be assholes. That's just the reality of it.

Its one of the core values of proshipping. Whether or not individuals comply with that or consider it part of their personal claim to proshipping is entirely up to them and out of my control.

However, again.

SALS.

Pro-ship.

Its not disingenuous to state one of the inherent criteria of something. Only disingenuous to claim that everyone complies.

About seperating fiction from reality, the wildest example is that guy who married Miku because:

He is well aware of his Miku obsession & Miku is a fictional character

Marries her anyways

He is still well aware that she is a fictional character & openly tell people that

His latest tweet says "I get criticized for having a wedding with Hatsune Miku, who is 16 years old. However, a fictional character set at 16 years old is not the same as a real 16 year old person. I always say, "Hatsune Miku is a fictional character." Please distinguish between reality and fiction."

Imagine getting scolded by the guy who is famous for marrying miku just because you can't seperate fiction from reality

I remember seeing posts way back when about Akihiko Kondo and laughing about it because haha funny, weirdo marries fake character, and then I remember seeing *this article, which honestly made me feel for him a little and lead me into looking into the story more.

Akihiko is honestly a legend of a man. I hope he continues to spend his days clowning the people who can't separate one's fictional interests to their real life existence. He helped to change my perspective on things a little and I hope he continues to have a long and happy marriage with Hatsune Miku.

*For those who don't want to click on a random link, the article references the fact that Akihiko married Hatsune Miku after growing attached to her helped him to survive a deep depression and personal issues such as anxiety and rejection sensitivity. His marriage to Hatsune Miku has allowed him to re-enter the 'real world' and gain confidence again.

someone was sharing info on how to keep yourself and also kids in general safe online, their sources came from credible orgs like RAINN and an anti reblogged the post and went “that’s great and all but I won’t share because this is proshipper rhetoric”

This is just kind of sad. They really think information about online safety is wrong

Why did “be critical of your media” turn into “find all its flaws and hate it” why did people become allergic to FUN