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We finally have a First look at the logo and possible theme for Frozen 3! Officially revealed during the panel

Breathtaking and gorgeous! Simply gorgeous!! The colours are so calm and so beautiful!! Not what I was expecting but that's a good thing!! The four elements still seem to be in play with Elsa as the fifth spirit given by the snowflake too.

The season by the looks of it seems to be Spring given the colours. Frozen was in summer (and winter some may argue), Frozen II in autumn so it seems like Frozen III will be taking place in spring 🌸

Honestly I'm all in for the much lighter tone because Frozen 2 had a darker tone to it so I'm extremely excited!!

First piece of concept art for Frozen 3 (2027) by Brittney Lee revealed at D23 Expo 2024

Its gonna be something deepened in magic, mythic and hystorical lore (Yarl Aren?) Elsa powers-centered, I dare to say.

Sounds like the upcoming Frozen film(s) will again focus on a lot of the mythical and historical stuff, although there are some questions about the future too!

I’m particularly interested in “was there a fifth spirit before?” and “where do the nature spirits come from?” as these are things I’ve theorized about before and it’ll be awesome to have a definitive answer! “Why are there castle ruins throughout Ahtohallan?” intrigues me as well, since I’ve always wondered the same, but there’s not really enough to come up with a solid theory!

(Also, I’m not sure who took this picture, I’ve seen it going around here and on discord (it may be originally from twitter?), but if anyone wants me to credit the original poster, just let me know who it was and I’ll gladly credit them!)

Ok, the questions from D23 tonight about “Do we still need to beware the Frozen Heart?” and “Who is the Frozen Heart?” got me thinking about this again. The capitalization and the way these questions are phrased seem to indicate that there is more to the Frozen Heart than is shown in the first movie, and this runic passage seems to imply that this has happened before. That someone had their heart frozen in a similar way to how Elsa froze Anna’s with her magic. I’m also wondering how this could tie in with other questions such as “was there a fifth spirit before?” The fact that the person shown to have a frozen heart seems to be a Viking (picture below since I for some reason didn’t include it in my original post 🤦‍♀️) combined with the presumably Viking figure shown in the concept art from D23 might mean that we could learn more about this past person and their story in relation with ancient stories of the fifth spirit and Ahtohallan! Did this person live in harmony with Ahtohallan and the spirits of nature and the Frozen Heart was an accident? Or did they do something to cause Ahtohallan/the spirits to lash out?

The question “do we still need to beware the Frozen Heart?” really haunts me though, as it makes it seem like a villain and implies that Elsa’s out-of-control powers may not be the only thing that can cause a Frozen Heart. I mentioned other possible causes for this past-person’s Frozen Heart in my original post, and I may be back to wondering about them now. What if it does refer to a metaphorical Frozen Heart? In which case you could argue that it could refer to various unresolved flaws or trauma within the characters, which may come back to haunt them in the upcoming movies. Do we STILL need to beware the Frozen Heart that we thought thawed out a long time ago?

Translating the Runes in Secrets of the Magic Makers

Ok, so I already said in my previous post (X) that I love Secrets of the Magic Makers and the runic writing in Frozen in general, but now I’m going to actually talk about the translations of the runes.

Most* of the runes shown in Frozen movies and shorts are historically accurate and translatable. They are Younger Futhark runes, used in Nordic regions beginning around the 9th century. The Younger Futhark alphabet has 16 runes and is a simplification of the Elder Futhark, which had 24 originally. The Younger Futhark alphabet was used throughout Scandinavia in the Viking Age and declined after Catholicism was introduced. (Source: Runes Illustrated by Rachel Newcombe)

* I say most because the runes in Olaf’s Frozen Adventure on the bell are not historically accurate. They are simply a direct English transliteration of the words “Ring in the Season”

Disney worked with Old Norse language expert Jackson Crawford (you can find his YT channel here (X)) to ensure that the runes in F1 are historically accurate.

Ok, history lesson over, let’s actually talk about how these runes are relevant to the Frozen story.

I did not translate these myself, although I have kind of taught myself how to now. These translations come from Panya on this website. If you are interested in the detailed translations, I would highly recommend checking it out, as it is truly fascinating!

Here is the cover of the book. It translates roughly to Runes of Knowledge, but I believe this book to also be Secrets of the Magic Makers (see my previous post for full explanation).

The inside of the book is 9 lines of text, repeated twice. It appears to say something like

Someone (subject is unclear) was turned to stone (ice?) by the power of the moon. The trolls from the dark mountain realm have healing hands. A soul wounded from cold will heal if brought very quickly to the field of them (the trolls). Trolls have such a nature that they can get sorcery out of the body to save it. Such action done in true love is the only one which can thaw a heart stoned (frozen?) very quickly.

It isn't exactly clear or easy to read, but I think that it tells the story of an ancient Arendellian (possibly Aren, but that’s mostly just a headcanon) whose heart was frozen by some power of the moon. It goes on to say that trolls have the power to remove magic, but that the only way to thaw a frozen heart is an act of true love.

This is VERY interesting as it implies that someone in the ancient past had a frozen heart. It could just be an old story, something that never actually happened. I personally don’t believe there was ever a single person who was the fifth spirit before Elsa and by extension no human who ever wielded ice powers like hers before. Another option is perhaps whoever it was that angered the spirits in some way or ventured too far into Ahtohallan and began to freeze? Or it could be a figurative frozen heart in the sense of a lack of love and compassion. I suppose only Ahtohallan knows this answer.

The other thing that makes this interesting is that it directly says that an act of true love will thaw a frozen heart. Which means that the answer was right there all along. The entire message of love will thaw was summed up here in runes at the very beginning of the movie. This also means that this was part of an Arendellian myth or story at some point and has been forgotten by the time Elsa is born.

So yeah, not really a big revelation or anything, but it is certainly interesting. I would love to know more details about this story and its origin, but again, only Ahtohallan knows. Overall I do think it's fascinating, as it gives us more information about Ancient Arendellian beliefs and traditions that still hold relevance in the time Frozen is actually set. As someone who is OBSESSED with the ancient myths and stories of Arendelle and the surrounding areas, this is so so intriguing to me and I absolutely love it!

PERFECTION.

Tom Hiddleston at People’s photo booth at D23 Expo

Is that ASGARD in my FROZEN??? (unsubtle rainbow bridge) Is that Ymir's shadow hunting them?? Are we making Atohallan = Muspellheim??? :0 Is Elsa a Vanir in 2027???? HELPPP (we are SO getting a complicated second layer to where her powers come from)

+no shot, if anyone sneaks canon comparisons between Elsa and Fenrir into this, I'll need to be fettered

I know we explore Norse mythology plenty in the Frozen expanded material. We get Skøll as Hans' heartless in KH3, draugr in Polar Nights, and viking constellations in Forest of Shadows (they also pull Aren's mythical sword out of a viking dragon-ship and use it to fight a giant nattmara wolf, so). Usually a lot of the viking-age Scandinavian legend, such as creatures mentioned in the Eddas, are tied to specifically Arendelle's history though.

This promo seems to imply that the Enchanted Forest has some connection with Asgard (I am assuming it is Asgard for now). Or at least we are geographically taking off from there.

Which could come at the expense of Northuldra story? Diff culture. Not every fairytale race is related to the Enchanted Forest, or needs to be-- we have the trolls in the Valley of the Living Rock and Huldrefólk at Miner's Mountain. Although! Nøkk is a more Norse legend as well, yet acts as Northuldra's respected water spirit, so: not unlikely that the Northuldra may honor the existence of Norse spirits. (They may not even appear much at all.)

ohhh fuck. i can smell the magnus chase crossovers three years away. what have you DONE /lh

but I'm just so so excited. What if the crystals from F2 were runic and Anna learned galdr so she could have a moment like Gerda's magic prayer in the Snow Queen? What if we had magical ravens, like the talking ravens in the Hans Christian Andersen fable? What if Elsa argued with the Nornir about destiny, or Olaf bantered with Heimdall and unintentionally caused Ragnarok? What if Kristoff accidentally used Andvari's ring for the vows and gave us the most glorious Disney dragon moment since Maleficent? And come on, Anna with a battleaxe and bloodlust?!

Ironically, first seeing this was the direction after F2, I felt unfavorably about stacking on brand new lore, thinking it might rehash the "newfound community arc" which would make it infuriatingly harder to develop old and new relationships from previous movies (for weak reasons)

This is because Elsa's new power from Frozen II wasn’t really something magical: she still has ice, she’s always had ice, and it’s not like her ice got any more OP than it already was. (F1 already proved she can bring snowmen to life, build entire castles in less than five minutes, and freeze a whole ass fjord. I don't think stopping the flood or talking to a sentient glacier topped all that.) What she gained was fellowship with other magical beings and people who understand magic-- a community to help. Not to mention the closure in knowing that her mother would have accepted her, affirmation that she has a purpose, and freedom to assume new roles.

I do want the new movie to spend time using the new lore to steady our characters though, not the other way around. Can't always become something new to move forward, yknow? Gotta nurture what she has instead of breaking the absolute ceiling eventually.

but seeing them break the absolute ceiling is liberating every time so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

actually wait. who's running arendelle right now?

First piece of concept art for Frozen 3 (2027) by Brittney Lee revealed at D23 Expo 2024

Hey so how bout this D23 Star Wars reel,,,,,

Anyone wanna scream with me cause: what the kriffing hell

I'm getting flashbacks to Endgame and I'm not okay with it

THE LEFTOVERS (Dir: Paul Schneider, 1986).

If there is a more 1980's way to open your movie than with Howard Jones' New Song, than I do not know what it is. I am also unsure as to who this lightweight comedy will resonate with, other than 1980's kids.

The Leftovers stars singer turned actor John Denver as Max Sinclair, director of The Middleburg Orphanage and surrogate father to the ragtag bunch of kids who live there. Cindy Williams is the live in help. Together they fend off plans to redevelop the home by underhanded means, while the kids do all they can to keep from being adopted.

Originally aired on television as part of ABC's The Disney Sunday Movie weekly series in November 1986. It's not hard to imagine that a decade earlier The Leftovers would have been released to cinemas, with Dean Jones and Sandy Duncan as possible leads. It is old fashioned, inoffensive but not without charm.

It may be a generational thing, but I did enjoy this movie. It is nothing spectacular but the leads are likeable and while the plot has a few too many contrivances and conveniences for its own good, most of its laughs are genuine.

However, it is low-key in the extreme and although I had seen this movie at around the age of 12 or 13, only one scene stuck in my head and that was the opening, probably because my tweenage self was a big fan of Howard Jones!

I am sure I enjoyed The Leftovers as a kid because I lapped up anything Disney. Revisiting it as an adult I am aware that it is no classic, even by 80's Disney TV movie standards. But it is an entertaining 90 odd minutes; if you are in the mood for some gentle 1980's nostalgia you might find it hits the spot. Just don't expect to remember much about it afterwards!

Visit my blog jinglebonesmovietime.blogspot.com for more reviews of vintage Disney movies!

I got to go to D23 this year and it was a BLAST! I also had the chance to give one of my childhood hero’s some artwork I made.

If you don’t know, Ashley Eckstein is the voice of Ahsoka Tano from the Clone Wars, and one of my favorite characters. She and my mom have been instagram friends for a long time (don’t ask me how) she even took my mom to Club 33 once (jealous!) and because she did so, my mom commissioned me to draw something for her. My mom told me that she loved Alice in Wonderland and her house is themed after it, so I draw the Alice in Wonderland flowers and added a little Ahsoka Tano butterfly in it.

I saw her at one of the events and gave it to her. SHE LOVED IT! She said she would frame it up on her wall and I literally almost cried, she said I was an incredible artist and wanted me to continue doing art.

That was probably the highlight of my year.

When will Disney announce MY dream Disney+ show Never Ever After? You know the show that takes place in the town beside the Disney logo. The one that follows a traditional background character who decides to unionize the other bcs and demand their happily ever afters.

Where's that show?