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okay but here me out

we all agree that how the villain song from new Disney movie wish was bad and the villain king Magnifico keep saying “ this is the thanks I get “ well I think Disney is mad at us because of the things that happened to the company recently and maybe they mad cuz we don’t like Disney like we use to and they keep saying we are the best company and we made a lost of memory for all of you we are everywhere what ever you love is cuz of us and this is the thanks we get ??? see Disney is mad at us 😂 and btw am I the only one who thinks that Disney tried to make the hottest Disney DILF possible?? like they asked people with daddy issues around and said imagine a hot Daddy and draw that 💀or maybe they were like (you know what it’s time for a new Disney crush that people can fell in love with for an other 100 years )

Dont worry about the additional ramble, my first post was also just me doing lot of rambling about some random idea I got all of a sudden. Aaaanndd now I'm gonna do it again....

You're right, you've made a lot of good points there. I think I got too carried away with the idea of Asha's character arc. To me, having selflessness as a weakness and be something to learn from would be an interesting concept to explore for a character, but maybe not for Disney though. Ooh... maybe all that "selflessness" could've been used for set up for Asha's self-sacrifice for Star. Think Eugene or Beast, but it's actually the "princess" who does it. Well, it would be a bold move...

This also brings me back to another thing that I wanted to dive into in that post, but didn't because of how lengthy that became, and I think this may be one of the root problems with Wish.

I think Asha found out about Magnifico too early.

Oh, even better, she even comes up with the solution to the problem, saying that people should be given the chance to realise their dream, keep the bad wishes, etc, preaching the story's moral. What a hero!

All in the first act.

Because of this, Asha doesn't learn.

Because of this, there's barely any room for a journey at all.

That first post I made was me trying to think of a way of how "This Wish" could theoretically work into the formula, but looking again... it might not. Asha just knows too much too early.

Something felt off when I read something in the concept art about Asha being a modern take on the heroine and fairy tale, rallying people together to change the world and fight an impossible force she opposes.

But the thing is, what I've noticed is that the hero in Disney films doesn't really try to oppose and/or confront the true villain until the story's third act. Maybe sometimes second act, but not right away. They go through a certain journey first. Even in a movie like with Mulan where they do try to oppose the threat, there's still a long winded journey to get there.

In some other films, the protag doesn't even know that the main villain is well... the villain until later. It's only made very painfully obvious to the viewer, but not for the protagonist. The Little Mermaid, Snow White, The Lion King, Tangled are good examples. There are some exceptions, but this is how it is for some of the classic villains. It makes it all the more suspenseful for us because we know that they're bad yet the protagonist is still oblivious to it all as they interact with them.

They tried to make Magnifico a classic villain but barely anything in his design says that he is evil. I think the concept art looked a lot better, but in the film, it doesnt translate. Makes sense he'd look charming or else people wouldn't trust him, but I think they lost the evil charm in his character from the concepts. And then you give a hint of a sympathetic backstory? You can't do all three villain types at once.

I could be wrong about this and I feel like you might know more about this subject than me and I havent seen all of Wish so I'd like to see your perspective, it's just something that didnt sit right with me looking back at how Disney villains were taken care of.

I think how it would've worked is that Asha's wish could be a call for help due to there being something wrong in the community. Also make things more personal if it's got to do with her family. But it's not about Magnifico, she doesn't know he's behind it all.

Maybe that's why another concept of Starboy is him taking the form of her grandfather after he passed away. She was meant to wish for her grandfather's help, and so the Star manifests as him. It could go either way, the grandfather or the love interest.

If we want Asha to go through a character arc, then maybe change her perspective about wishes. Allow her to be naive, thinking that wishes should all come true. And Star is the one to teach her that they all shouldn't, there's harmful wishes too. People have the power to fulfill their own outside of just the King. Literally the perfect opportunity to insert "I'm a star" revealing that since humans are no different from stars either, so they can make their own wishes come true. He only came down to guide Asha. This would be the answer to what she's missing.

It would be interesting if the quirky starboy turned out to be the more wiser of the duo due to his experience as a star, while Asha being the more quieter one yet naive in her point of view.

Though yes, it doesn't leave much of an arc for Star, especially if this is the love interest route. Maybe learning to love is his character arc?

They go through a certain journey to figure out what's going on while helping the people affected, this is where Asha learns the story's message through the journey. Differing viewpoints between Star and Asha would set up some really good conflict between them.

King Magnifico caught wind of whats going on (wishes being fulfilled, people becoming more independent from him), and does his evil acts to savotage them, Star and Asha constantly fixing his mess without any of them realizing until they do.

Maybe Star initially tries to convince Asha to make people realize the truth, but Asha in her stubbornness, forces the two to face him alone. This could also add another twist for the heroes (but not the viewer) where Amaya is revealed to be heavily involved, leading to Star getting captured in an attempt to protect Asha and allow her to escape.

Asha escapes, and rallies the people. She then remembers what Star taught her and makes a plan by utilising the people's own wishes and then inspiring them to achieve it for the plan to work. (They dont remember their wish, but Asha reminds them?) It's something very similar to something that happens in Kung Fu Panda 3 (not Disney, I know), but it would've worked to send the message Wish is trying to do here.

Asha saves Star through wit and determination and some trickery, while also trust in the people and community because what went wrong the first time was that Star and Asha ended up confronting Magnifico alone.

The two then split up to deal with the villain couple, with Star dealing with Magnifico (which is why Asha's wish required the Star coming down, because she needed him to deal with Magnifico's magic), while Asha goes after Amaya who turned out to hold the stolen wishes. (And something something for the conclusion...)

Hmm, I don't think this does include the "faith" aspect very well. I think there are definitely better ideas out there than me...

Again, thanks for your feedback! Maybe I should do a big Disney movie binge sometime to compare to Wish to improve things, Im just remembering things from the top of my head. Oh, and Happy New Year! °w°)/

Disney doesn't need to change "the formula." That's the last thing that Wish proves.

What Wish proves is that "the formula" only works when you know why the ingredients are in it, and you use them the correct way.

The Princess Character is meant to wish for only half of the movie's message, and go through an adventure that teaches her what the other half is; what her dream was missing. Ariel dreamed of understanding but she was missing love. Tiana dreamed of achieving her goals but she was missing faith. Jasmine dreamed of freedom but she was missing trust. Belle dreamed of adventure but she was missing being understood.

The Villain is meant to highlight the opposite of the movie's message. Jafar gets what he wants through trickery and manipulation; that's the opposite of Aladdin's "truth will set you free" message, and he gets imprisoned in a lamp. Scar thinks being a King is having his way all the time and can't learn from his past of living in Mufasa's shadow; that's the opposite of The Lion King's "Let the past remind you of your responsibility to selflessness." Gaston loves only himself and is always obsessed with appearances; that's the opposite of Beauty & the Beast's "true love is found within a heart of self-sacrifice." That's what makes them such good villains. (and that clear direction is what drives good villain songs, since Magnifico's is what everyone is talking about)

The sidekick is supposed to compare/contrast with the main character's qualities. Abu is a greedy thief, which is what everyone in Agrabah thinks Aladdin is; when he scolds Abu and teaches him selflessness, it shows us who Aladdin actually is. Flounder is easily frightened and looks at the glass half-full; when Ariel coaxes him and leads by example, we see her bravery and positivity reflected in Flounder's tiny character arc. Timon & Pumbaa do whatever they want all day just like young Simba always dreamed of; when Simba goes to live with them, he finds that "getting his way all the time" makes him forget who he really is and feel empty.

The setting is supposed to show off the characters and highlight the movie's message. Rapunzel's tower is designed to be pretty on the inside because of her influence; if it were too dark and prison-shaped, we'd wonder why she didn't work up the courage to leave sooner. Just like how Quasimodo has made his corner of the bell-tower beautiful, too; they're taught the world is cruel and they're not strong enough for it, but they make their own worlds beautiful enough to hint that that's wrong right from the start. Ariel's grotto is shaped like a tower with no roof so that she only has one window to the forbidden Surface, and it's the light that comes from that forbidden world into her dark grotto which literally makes her able to see human things differently. Tiana's apartment has no interesting features except her father's picture, a perfectly made bed, a drawer with no extra outfits but stuffed with tip money, and only two dresses; both of which are for work.

None of that is happening in Wish, because they didn't know why the formula ingredients are there. Disney needs to understand and return to the formula the right way; forgetting it was what got them here.

Asha learns nothing to add to her dream, unless you count "the power to grant wishes is in me." Which you shouldn't, because we didn't even know she was confused about that until the animals sang a song that was completely off-topic and she had the chance to jump in and sing "I'm a Star!"

Magnifico does not demonstrate the opposite of Wish's message effectively because his character has nothing to do with a philosophy against making wishes, and everything to do with power. (He is the strongest character in the film. But because the message and core concept of what wishes are are so bad, that's not saying much.)

Valentino, and Asha's friends, do not highlight anything about her character through compare/contrast. Valentino is brave and all over the place. Her friends are seven-dwarfs parodies. Happy, Doc, Sneezy, Dopey, Bashful, Sleepy, Grumpy. None of that contrasts with Asha's vague characterization of "cares too much." None of it compares to that characterization, either.

The setting is empty. There are no interesting details that teach you something about any of the characters. None in Asha's home, none in the neat-and-tidy one-dimensional forest, none in the Rosas square, and none in the bland, empty castle. Magnifico's study is the closest anything gets; there's a loose concept that all of Asha's friends have to work together to open the roof, and take a leap of faith to weigh the pulley system down. Unfortunately, none of these characters is shown struggling to work together, OR to take leaps of faith, at all, before this point.

The ingredients of the formula are in Wish. They're just not being used correctly. This is how not to use the formula; it's not the formulas fault. If it ain't broke. They should never have let people convince them to try and fix it.

@westleywithatea and I got carried away after listening to “At All Costs”

Star conjured flowers for Asha! 💞🌟

I like to think this Star is mute and communicates through the items he conjures as well as gesture / sign language c:

This would make a wonderful story and it would make some sense. I wish that this was the direction that they decided to go in. So many missed opportunities.

So after seeing the Wish concept art, I had a thought…

And that’s how we’re gonna get Human Shapeshifter Star in the DisneyVerse 💫