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Ok. So I’m like dead set on Birar being the main villain of Indigo Disk, but I wanted to elaborate a bit on my theory:

Briar is a descendant of Heath, who was a writer and historian. The other professor (I’ll be using Turo for this so it’s easier to write) isn’t even a professor at all- he’s an author, admiring Heath’s work long after his death. Later in life, Turo meets Sada, who also admires Heath, and Briar, who wishes to continue her grandfather’s research by going down to Area Zero again to find Terapagos. Turo and Sada fall in love during the expedition, but they also find the Paradox Pokemon, along with Miraidon and Koraidon, which the team takes in and keeps in their lab located in Area Zero.

Later, Sada gets pregnant with her and Turo’s son, Arven. They take a break and move into the greenhouse next to the lighthouse in Cabo Poco, much to Briar’s dismay. She tries to convince Sada and Turo to come back and bring Arven with them after his birth, to which the parents turn down the offer. Within the time that Arven grows up, Briar becomes a teacher at Blueberry Academy, and decides to visit one day. Sada and Briar get into an argument about the expedition, but Briar manages to convince Sada to continue the expedition with pity points.

Turo reluctantly brings Arven along into Area Zero due to Briar’s request and gets the boy a Maschiff (“So it would be easier to watch him”) as a present. Briar’s insistent nagging of Sada to continue for the good of Paldea makes Sada start neglecting her son, and he befriends Koraidon as a result. Miraidon becomes friendly with Koraidon as well, but Briar is only concerned about finding Terapagos so she can receive the power of the Terastal phenomenon. Fueled by this, she keeps Sada away from those Briar perceive as “threats” to the expedition, namely Turo and Arven.

Turo, concerned about his fiancé's well-being, tries to convince her to come back home and take a break, leading to an argument between them that makes Sada realize her misdeeds. She tells Briar that she and her family will no longer be participating in the expedition, only for another argument between the two women to unfold. Briar, snapping, realizes that the only way Sada will stay is if Turo and Arven are gone.

Soon after Maschiff evolves into Mabosstiff, Briar causes a security breach after intentionally hurting Miraidon to make Koraidon rage. Sada pushes Turo out of the way, and Mabosstiff saves Arven, only for Sada to get killed on contact and for Mabosstiff to get almost killed. Briar tries to convince Turo to stay, but he refuses, breaking off of the expedition and bringing Koraidon and Miraidon with him, seeing that the two Pokemon are his responsibility now. Briar goes back to Blueberry Academy, now not being able to go down to find Terapagos without a permit.

Turo goes into a spiraling depression, creating an AI version of Sada that later realizes its purpose and hides in Area Zero. Turo spirals, leaving Arven and Koraidon in the lighthouse and retreating to the greenhouse with Miraidon, telling his son to never leave the lighthouse until his return with the Scarlet Book while Turo himself takes the Violet Book with him. Turo spends his days trying to pinpoint the location of AI Sada… Until a familiar face greets him.

The familiar face tells him about how she’d seen Arven leave the lighthouse and give Koraidon to some kid trainer who didn’t know what they were doing, and that Turo’s son, the trainer, and two other kids were going into Area Zero. Turo, taking advantage of this, activates a duplicate Miraidon that is extremely hostile towards the group to slow them down, only for AI Sada to stop it. Turo, now knowing AI Sada’s location, takes control of it, hoping that by beating the kids, she’ll return to him. The trainer that Arven had given Koraidon to beat her, which makes Turo lose control of her. AI Sada retreats into the past via a time machine, and Turo sobs into his hands…

… Before he feels a sharp object tear into his chest. He flops over the desk, blood staining his ragged clothes, leaving only Briar standing before him, having had enough of his failure. Now that Sada and Turo were out of the way, she only needed to get their son out of the way… And with the transfer project of Naranja and Blueberry Academy that Cyrano had specifically planned out for her, she would simply use Arven’s little friends to lure him in.

“… And that’s where you come in,” Briar says, her gaze looming over the boy, who stands with his back to her. “I hope you’ll prove your worth, unlike that useless man. Don’t disappoint me, Kieran.”

Anyways thanks for coming to my Ted Talk

Everyone, prepare to be victim to my thoughts. Additionally, I both do and do not apologise for the sheer amount of special interest that I may have unleashed, upon you all.

So, Pokemon: Legends Z-A!

My thoughts include, but most definitely are not limited to:

-My impeccable theorycrafting suggests that this game takes place in the Pokémon universe equivalent of 1853-1870, as the trailer reveals that Lumiose City has plans or is undergoing a large-scale urban redevelopment plan. Some of us have made the connection between this and the redevelopment of Paris by Georges-Eugène Haussmann, former Prefect of Seine, in this timeframe.

You see, when you complete the Pokédex in Pokémon: Legends Arceus, the game states that you have completed the first-ever Pokédex, which in turn means that all subsequent Legends games should take place after this event in Hisui. Of course, this could be retconned, ignored, or explained away, but I do not see these as likely. PLA takes place roughly ~200 years in the past, or so I have heard, which means that PLZA (I love this new acronym) probably takes place approximately 30-50 years after PLA in time.

-I have heard talk that this game will take place entirely within Lumiose City (and most likely its surrounding areas), surely in no small part because of a tweet by Nintendo America. I would be…interested in how that would play out, and would much rather see the whole of Kalos included in this game. Having said that, the idea of one massive city receiving that much attention and detail-especially one of the most detailed cities in the franchise-is very, very interesting. Besides, I like the aesthetic.

-Kalos ancestors Kalos Ancestors KALOS ANCESTORS

-Serena is back in the spotlight, isn’t she..? Well, I must say that I am happy for that. And everything about this.

-The “3,000 years” meme has absolutely overtaken everything, it just fits so well, and I honestly feel a little like AZ right now…(The “Why are you crying” meme is similar in all of these regards. Plus, it has a meta-level of humour with the quote being from XY.)

I will be preparing this game the moment I can, and watching with anticipation as more information is released. I now have the personal goal of reaching a competence with my drawing skills, so that I can create everything that I want by the time the game releases ! Thank you all for listening :)

Hey, so you know how eternamax eternatus is a giant hand?? Well, uhmm, I may have a cursed bit of evidence to the contrary.

So when you throw a pokeball at eternatus it opens it's "finger tips" and then closes in on the pokeball, clearly trying to investigate it. Eternatus then appears to recognize what it is and freak out. This means that eternatus uses it's "fingers" to see.

In conclusion, the fingers are not actually fingers they are either eyes or heads. Have a nice day!

so a while back I mentioned to @bl00diedhell​ that I believe that the eternatus we see in game is not complete. so I drew some concepts for what a complete eternatus could look like.

more info about each concept under the cut!

the first concept was me treating eternatus as a skeleton and trying to construct musculature onto it. I made it by taking a screen shot of eternatus and then drawing over it, which is why that drawing looks different from the other two. I then threw a galaxy overlay on it because why not.

the second concept I tried to make something that looked more natural than concept 1, yet was still recognizably eternatus. I ended up going with an exposed skeleton/bone armor design.

the third design was me just doing whatever I wanted to in the name of artistic licence. 

First off, I take no credit for this theory! It belongs to @tetheredavian74 , she just gave me permission to make a post about it!

Her theory is this: Rose is a time traveler.

Something horrible happened a thousand years in the future and he went back in time to make sure it could never happen by any means necessarry. That's why he had his whole speech about how the people of galar today wont matter in a millenium and talking about how he's going to change the course of history. It's also how he was able to develop such advanced technology. Plus he turns himself in afterwards. He doesnt try to run or hide or say he was in the right; his job was done.

Alright I really want to talk about my theories concerning eternatus. Especially since most of the theories I've seen about eternatus assume that it's evil. This is going to be a very long post, so I'll put all the full explanations under the cut.

Here's the short version of everything under the cut:

Eternatus is not complete.

Eternatus could be pieced together with wishing stars in a similar way to how zygarde can be constructed from zygarde cells.

Eternatus represents the universe and the concept of infinity/eternity.

Eternamax is not natural for eternatus.

Eternamax eternatus is not a hand, it's either a hydra or each finger is an eye :)

Eternatus went on a rampage after escaping the power plant because the process of using eternatus for energy was actively harming it.

2 possible explanations for how Rose found eternatus.

Rose was reviving and mistreating eternatus (something out of character when compared to everything we know about Rose) because he didn't realize that eternatus was alive until he was in too deep.

@criticaaaaaaaal ​‘s theory on the connection between eternatus and eternal floette

Why did eternatus start the original darkest day, and how did eternatus end up torn to bits in the first place. 

Theory 1: the eternatus we see in game is not complete. I know that I've talked about this before and so have others, but since this is going to be a collection of most if not all of my eternatus theories, I might as well include this. My list of evidence for this theory is as follows:

it doesn't have every wishing star and piece incorporated into it, and those are literally pieces of its body. Case in point; Sordward and Shielbert stealing enough wishing stars from Sonia's lab to not only forcefully dynamax a large number of pokemon, but also drive one of the legendary wolves mad. That would take a lot of wishing stars.

It is skeletal, but then when it is eternamaxed it is not all that skeletal. Perhaps an echo of its original appearance?

ok, but it's a SKELETON.

if you have watched it move in the poke camp, you may note it both moves like an eastern dragon and moves painfully slowly. Perhaps it is attempting to replicate how it used to move when it was whole, and it's sluggishness is due to moving via magic and sheer force of will instead of tendons and muscles. That, and lacking large portions of its body is probably causing it to be in agony.

I have some thoughts on how eternatus ended up missing parts of its own body, but that's something I'll come back to later in this post.

Theory 2) eternatus can be constructed from wishing stars in a similar manner to how zygarde can be constructed from zygarde cells. The basic idea is that if you were to collect enough wishing stars together, they would coalesce into eternatus' core. This would probably take a truly massive number of wishing stars. Alternatively, there could have been a unique wishing star (vaguely reminiscent in function to a zygarde core) that was originally eternatus' core. This 'core' wishing star would merge with any wishing stars it came in contact with, eventually reigniting into an active eternatus core. In either case, giving this newly reformed core more wishing stars would cause it to grow and eventually develop into eternatus.

Theory 3: eternatus represents the universe and infinity/eternity. I've seen people asking about this occasionally on this website, but I haven't seen a lot of actual theories. I've come to the conclusion that eternatus is an embodiment of eternity and the universe because a) it's name, and b) it's eternamax form is a spiral galaxy, with its core representing the super massive black hole found at the center of every galaxy.

Theory 4: eternamax is not natural for eternatus as well as excruciatingly painful, thus why we can't eternamax eternatus in game. My thought is that originally eternatus could gigantamax itself as a last resort self defense mechanism. However if eternatus attempts to use that ability it goes horribly wrong due to its body no longer being complete. Instead of gigantamaxing eternatus basically turns inside out as eternamax. Some evidence:

it's triggered by OVERLOADING its core. You know, that thing that is most likely a mini star/powered by nuclear fusion (or possibly worse, powered by something eldritch). That can't go well.

eternamax eternatus looks like its body has completely broken in ways that it shouldn't. The "hand" is actually its head TURNED INSIDE OUT, its spine has been pulled apart, its wings(? I honestly don't really know if that's what they are) are floating around the spiral, and its claws are currently floating in a ring around its core.

This could give a lore reason for why you can't eternamax eternatus; it is physically excruciatingly painful for Eternatus, and it would be cruel to force them to.

Theory 5) eternamax eternatus is not a hand, and the "fingers" are either eyes or heads. I already made a post about this that you can find here. It's real cursed. My own curiosity lead to my downfall, so now I must curse others with this knowledge.

Theory 6) eternatus went on a rampage after escaping Rose because using it for energy actively harmed eternatus. Although it's never explained how Rose was going to use eternatus as an energy source, I think it's pretty safe to say he planned on draining energy from eternatus' core. Problem is, all of eternatus' energy comes from its core. Eternatus is probably kept alive by the energy of its core, so draining its core would be draining its life force. That would definitely cause eternatus a lot of pain. In all likelihood eternatus was probably lashing out because it thought its life was in danger.

Side note: I've seen some people suggest that the reason eternatus went on a rampage is because it was being force fed wishing stars. Personally I think that it's more likely that eternatus can naturally reabsorb wishing stars into its body. It's never really implicated that Rose was specifically feeding the wishing stars eternatus, he only says he gave the wishing stars to eternatus. If you can just throw a bunch of zygarde cells together and they'll become a 10% zygarde, I don't see why eternatus wouldn't be able to osmosis wishing stars into itself.

Theory 7) how did Rose find eternatus. I originally talked about this on a thread by @bl00diedhell. You can find their original post here! Anyways, I have 2 different options for how Rose found eternatus: 

One possibility is that Rose had been collecting a large amount of wishing stars in hopes of running experiments on them. It was known that wishing stars emit energy, so maybe he was trying to see if there was a way to use them as a renewable energy source. Eventually Rose would have accidentally stockpiled enough of what are literally pieces of eternatus’ body for it to reconstruct itself. One moment it’s a pile of wishing stars, the next they’re glowing and clumping together until poof: you now have one sickly looking god. Or at least eternatus' core.

Another possibility focuses on how Rose owns the galar mines. If I understood the lore correctly, then the glowing gems all over the caves are used for fuel. Not only that, but considering how much time Bede spends hunting for wishing stars in the mines its more than likely there are a lot of them down there. It could be possible then that eternatus had been hibernating somewhere inside the mines. Maybe while excavating a new tunnel the miners open up a sealed cavern with a hibernating Eternatus within. It would probably look similar to the cocoons of yveltal and Xerneas. Something like that would get reported, so Rose would come to investigate.

Theory 8) Rose abused eternatus for power because he didn't realize that eternatus was alive until he was in too deep. Before I explain further, I'd like to credit @swapauanon for bringing up the idea that eternatus was originally just it's core at the start. You can find the thread with their theory along with my original post about my theory on why rose abused eternatus here.

Firstly, let's talk about how out of character Rose's actions towards eternatus are. Everything we learn about Rose in game points to him caring deeply for all of the inhabitants of Galar, both human and pokemon. He’s even the one who gives the player the “pokemon are our friends, partners, and family!” spiel at the start of the game. So it makes zero sense that he would ignore all of his principles and abuse eternatus for an energy source... Unless he didn't know that eternatus was a living being. This could be possible for a number of reasons:

The closest comparison for reconstructing eternatus from wishing stars is zygarde. But zygarde cells have features that make it clear they are alive, notably their face. This is not true for wishing stars. They appear to just be rocks, no features that could reveal how they are actually alive. There is nothing about eternatus core that proves it's alive either.

the legends of the hero and the darkest day do not at any point hint that the darkest day was actually a living pokemon. This means that Rose wouldn't have gotten any evidence or warnings about eternatus actually being alive by reading galar's legends.

Although there are some rock type pokemon that at first glance don’t particularly have any living characteristics, I can’t think of any that don't at least have a vague caricature of a face. And as I've mentioned already, wishing stars don't even have that.

Unlike both zygarde cells and any rock type that lacks obvious living features, wishing stars and eternatus' core are completely immobile on their own.

All of this put together would result in Rose not having any reason to think eternatus is alive. He didn't realize he was trying to use a living pokemon as a power source, he would have thought he was just harnessing the natural power of a special material. It probably took a long time and a lot of wishing stars for eternatus to start resembling a living being, and even longer for it to start responding to its environment. By the time Rose realized that eternatus was a pokemon, he might have felt that he was in too deep and had poured too much time and resources into trying to use eternatus for power to turn back.

Theory 9) @criticaaaaaaaal 's theory on how the eternal flower floette is connected to eternatus. This theory belongs to @criticaaaaaaaal! Seriously this theory belongs to them, all I did was help them patch up holes in the theory with my obsessive knowledge of eternatus and built a bit onto it. You can find the thread about their theory here! Anyways let's get to the theory.

Let's start with some necessary background info: one of eternatus' pokedex entries states that it came to earth 20,000 years ago, meaning that it was on earth for 17,000 years before starting the darkest day. That means it would be reasonable to believe that eternatus was a wandering legendary for that time. Skip to 3,000 years ago, there is a massive war in kalos that kills AZ's floette. AZ decides to make this ultimate weapon to bring floette back. Thing is, this kills thousands of innocent pokemon in the process. So, if AZ was willing to kill thousands of pokemon, who could say he wouldn't kill a legendary too? Maybe AZ captured eternatus and began using parts of its body to power the machine, but due to eternatus being immortal this doesn't kill it. The machine imbues floette with eternatus' power, making floette immortal. After the machine is activated, eternatus escapes and starts the darkest either as retribution for what AZ did to it, due to being too compromised to control its own power, or both. Here's a list of evidence to back this theory up: 

Junichi Masuda confirmed in an interview that the reason AZ is so ridiculously tall is due to the power of his ultimate weapon affecting his body. This could definitely be used as evidence that AZ was using eternatus to power his machine, as eternatus' power causes living things to get huge.

AZ's ultimate machine requires a legendary to function. In X and Y Lysander uses yveltal or Xerneas, it's possible that a different legendary could have been used by AZ.

Kalos and galar are based off of France and the UK, respectively. That would make them geographically very close. If Eternatus was a wandering legendary,  it could easily travel between kalos and galar.

Both the war in kalos and the darkest day occurred 3,000 years ago.

There are some striking visual similarities between eternatus and eternal floette.

Theory 10) possible reasons why eternatus started the darkest day, as well as how eternatus became incomplete. I’m putting this into one theory because my ideas on how eternatus got torn to bits and why eternatus started the darkest day are deeply connected. First off, let's start with some important info. as mentioned before, one of eternatus’ pokedex entries states that 

“It was inside a meteorite that fell 20,000 years ago. There seems to be a connection between this Pokémon and the Dynamax phenomenon.”

There’s a lot to unpack there. First, this means that eternatus was on earth for 17,000 years before causing any problems. Something big must have changed for eternatus to start the darkest day. Second, it doesn't explain why eternatus was with that meteor. That leaves open some possibilities.

It's possible that eternatus was struck by the meteor and then dragged to earth with said meteor. The combination of the initial impact with the meteor,  burning up while entering earth's atmosphere, and then crash landing would almost certainly cause some serious damage to eternatus. This could explain why eternatus didn't leave; it was too injured to do so. However, this probably wouldn't cause the catastrophic damage necessary for eternatus to be literally torn to shreds, not to mention how it would be rather difficult for eternatus to start the darkest day while literally completely shattered. Nonetheless, eternatus could definitely have sustained enough damage for a relatively small amount of wishing stars to be scattered. That also means people could find those wishing stars and discover their power. 

To sum all of that up, 20,000 years ago eternatus gets struck by a meteor and dragged to earth. The combination of being hit by the meteor, entering earth's atmosphere, and then crash landing results in eternatus getting damaged, preventing eternatus from leaving earth. This damage also caused a relatively small amount of wishing stars to break away from eternatus and scatter around the galar region and possibly other nearby regions. Due to wishing stars inherit power, they would become a rare and sought after resource. 

So here is where this can go in different directions. 

Option one draws from @criticaaaaaaaal 's theory. After Floette dies, AZ begins working on his ultimate weapon. Since he was a prince it would be likely that he had access to a small amount of fallen wishing stars. AZ decides to attempt to use the wishing stars to power his machine. He may have even gotten promising results from experiments, something like being able to breathe life back into floette's dead and dried flower. However, his small sample of wishing stars didn't have enough power to bring floette back. So AZ decides to try and get more directly from the source: eternatus. AZ manages to capture eternatus and harnesses the legendary's energy to power his machine. How he does this I'm not entirely sure, but one possibility is AZ may have cut open eternatus's chest to get direct access to its core. No matter how AZ went about harnessing eternatus' power, doing so critically injures eternatus, destabilizing its core. After the machine is activated, eternatus escapes and attempts to gigantamax. However due to its now unstable core and extensive injuries something goes wrong. Instead of gigantamaxing eternatus undergoes eternamax, setting off the darkest day. 

Option 2 draws from what the tapestries in hammerlocke leave unsaid. It's stated that the tapestries tell the story of the creation of a kingdom in galar. But who was in control of galar before the darkest day? It's very unlikely that there was just simply no civilization in galar before the darkest day. So let's say there was a different kingdom. The king of this kingdom may have been seeking to increase or legitimize his power. Considering that the current known lore of calyrex is that it used to rule over all of galar, it's more than possible that a human king would feel threatened by a powerful legendary such as eternatus. Maybe the people of galar revered eternatus, and that fueled the king's insecurity even more. So the king decides that to protect his own claim to power he needs to get rid of eternatus. The king raises an army and sets out to ambush eternatus. Eternatus is caught off guard and vastly outnumbered in the ensuing battle, and is grievously wounded. In a last ditch effort eternatus attempts to gigantamax, but their core overloads due to their injuries, causing them to eternamax instead.

With either option the end result is the same. The darkest day begins, and the 2 heros and the legendary wolves come to defeat eternatus. Upon its defeat, eternatus' body is beyond the breaking point. The strain of the unnatural transformation brought upon by eternamax, it's unstable and overloaded core, and numerous injuries causes eternatus' entire body to shatter like glass. Wishing stars are scattered all across the galar region, some being thrown into orbit, eventually to return to earth years later. The energy eternatus generates now freely pours out, and over time this culminates as power spots and raid dens.

Hi! If you managed to read all the way to the end, all I can say is holly noodles thank you so much for reading my long rambles! It's been bothering me for a while that so many people just assume eternatus is just a big bad evil villain. I don't remember this much animosity for any other legendary, and there is literally a legendary that is the embodiment of death. And guess what? The embodiment of death is actually just a silly birb that likes sweet pastries and wants to be pet. 

Guys I'm having a crisis my brain suddenly threw "what if the poipole line is connected to eternatus" at me