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If Rhian were a villain as his own character, in character, I feel like he'd be the kind of villain to explain his whole Evil plan, giving it away completely instead of keeping it to himself because he's incapable of keeping it to himself. He would be hyped up with excitement for his vision coming to fruition, and most importantly, he would want to do it for the showmanship as he's theatrical like that. Then again, he may be too smart to reveal it all.

If you recall his thematically-appropriate outfit during the Circus of Talents, he seems to love causing a scene, and while Rafal does share this tendency towards the dramatic, I don't believe it's to the same effect or as extreme as Rhian's.

And this brings me to the point that it's just flat-out unusual for Rhian to wear essentially the same outfit for 200 years.

I mean, that seems unlike him and extreme. For evidence, it's implied by TLEA, by the image of his midnight blue robes hanging on a hook in the tower like a relic at the beginning of the book, that he's worn that selfsame outfit all that time. Sure, he must've not had an occasion to dress up for, but when did that ever stop him? Did imitating Rafal mean he had almost given up on his fashion sense? It's not like anyone had seen him. He didn't have anyone to perform in front of after all. Maybe that's the reason: no one would see him, so it wouldn't matter? He'd probably become depressed, and perhaps, the loneliness drove him insane and away from old behaviors.

Yet, how could Rhian, the man who was a fashion icon in his better days, be reduced to wearing the same midnight blue robes for 200 years, as the first trilogy implies? Even villainous Fall Rhian with his pure spun gold cloak did better than this version of him.

Wearing the same clothes like a uniform is Rafal behavior, and while taking that trait completes his disguise, which I'm sure Rhian had down by SGE's present, if no one had the faintest memory of what the real Rafal was like, what was keeping Rhian from caring about his appearance like he once did? He only seemed to fall back into fashion and indulge in it in order to appeal to Sophie and that's it. Did he never regain the right state of mind for fashion to be of any importance by himself? Did Sophie revive that lost part of him?

In conclusion, that is the most implausible thing about the Fall twist: Rhian's lack of fashion sense. /j

The Storian to the brothers, centuries ago: I've rescued you from mediocrity. Be grateful.

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Rafal to Rhian: I've rescued you from being alone. You have me. You don't need anyone else.

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"Rafal" to Sophie: I've rescued you from mediocrity and from being alone. Why aren't you happy?

Sophie: Were you ever happy?

Agatha: Did anyone ever bother to ask what we wanted?!

"Rafal": No? Why is that important?

TLEA likely could've been darker in at least one way, if it had been more accurate to our real-world science:

If SGE’s magic didn’t work how it did, I bet Sophie’s ears could have popped, and maybe burst her eardrums. Plus, Rafal could have inadvertently killed her (and doomed himself!) once he’d reached some terminal velocity of mortals while flying with her.

Probably, he could stop her from bleeding out though (or would it be internal bleeding?), and the ring would save her, too, I think, as the immortality went "both ways."

Aside from some "recovery" or the potential ring fail-safe, just think of the angst and hurt/comfort potential!

HAH! I love this! Also, the coattails on Rafal's ghost—I love their poses at the end! And what's the last panel of? Agatha and some object?

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this audio reminded me of them if rafal was like a ghost and randomly appeared during tlea lol

also the proportions are like NOT the best but i think it's too late to fix😔

This reblog is fairly late. Sorry. It's been rotting in my drafts for so long.

Someday, I have got to finish my long Adela Sader analysis post (which is more predicated in canon than this AU), but for now, I will say: it may not have entirely been her fault, how things went askew ever since Rafal obtained knowledge of the prophecy, because Rafal's own genre-savviness betrayed him when it came to his "true" identity.

Evelyn, here, could be a goddess of something like duplicity and hypocrisy in the men below, and of course, Rafal has a low tolerance for anything short of "the" (read: his) Truth, meaning he'd viscerally hate what Evelyn stands for, even if he's easily all in favor of duality and complexity himself.

In the context of this AU, I think, at the time, I just felt like Adela wouldn't know Evelyn too well personally, (and there's their clash of the hearing the present ability with seeing the future) so of course, Adela would pick Rafal, the more sensible option in the petty "war" and maybe, the rationale backing Rafal held up better too. Who knows? No one can know her mind. (I probably didn't have that much reasoning to begin with since I was going for symmetry and a vague sense of familiarity in who sided with who.)

Haha, I'm glad that end satisfied you.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he never proved that trope wrong. I mean, he does sacrifice himself for Rhian in canon during one life-or-death scenario while all along he struggle to display the slightest bit of high regard for Rhian during their everyday lives. So—I don't know what to tell you. Rafal's supremely awkward like that, by my interpretation too.

I am sharing the funniest dnd character idea I’ve ever had bc I know I’ll never get to play them and I refuse to keep a joke to myself

Okay so I've got this weird question (fun to ponder tho)

How do you think Rafal would react if Sophie slapped him?!

(Both the prequel Rafal and the TLEA Rafal.)

And perhaps the prequel Rhian too. Although I'm mainly curious about Rafal (since he has more of a connection with Sophie, I think.)

Ahaha! This is absolutely a fun one on this very fine day, Anon. Here goes—

Because prequel Rafal most likely wouldn't have a connection to, a care in the world about, or any feelings toward Sophie, she could just be another student to him. And if she slapped him, a blatant show of disrespect to her School Master, I think his first impulse would be to send her to the Doom Room, or to react explosively, retaliating with sorcery. Maybe, he'd slam her to the wall. We've seen that happen with the pirates and he has a short fuse.

If he stopped to think about why she'd slap him, if he were in a more tolerant state of mind, say, as Fala in his disguise, he might be able to reevaluate whatever he said to her to have earned that slap. (Probably, he would have said something about how she's worthless as an unconventional, Everish, and superficial Never, who only cares about appearances, who is a disgrace to her side because she wants to find True Love, and who'd never amount to anything, I'd imagine.)

And, maybe, just maybe, she'd actually break through the ice with the slap, or by following it with some critical yet truthful jab about him, thereby reaching his humanity and inspiring some self-reflection on his part.

Yet, I do not believe Sophie reaching him or succeeding in cuing him into recognizing his flaws would be the most likely outcome. I'm not sure what other fault-finding he'd do with her, and we know he just loves disproportionate retribution, which is why I'm most inclined to say: torture it is.

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TLEA "Rafal" is the more uncertain answer.

He does have feelings for her and has exhibited sadistic and masochistic traits. (Remember the moment when they kissed after Sophie returned? He seemed to actually enjoy his bleeding lip for some reason.)

So, this may seem controversial, but he might redden and could potentially feel aroused and/or disoriented/dazed and be unable to react, frozen in place, considering that she opposed his authority, and that he hasn't been contradicted by anyone in about 200 years.

Besides, regardless of whichever of these would occur, I don't think he'd be able to keep a clear head in this particular instance.

If that aroused thought process happened, I think he would try not to lose his cool or get flustered, and would flee the scene abruptly, leaving Sophie to wonder how he took the slap (and unfortunately, worry for her life and what could possibly be in store for her, if he came back).

I'm not sure if her slapping him (probably due to his daily proposal ritual, him telling her to address him as "Master," or something equally controlling and irritating to her) would change their power dynamic. But that possibility does exist.

If their dynamic changed, maybe he would yield to her more often than he already did in canon, or could involve her in more major wartime decisions because slapping him definitely would've exhibited even more of her force of will and agency to him.

If their dynamic went in the opposite direction, he might become paranoid that she lifted a hand against him at all, and try to monitor her more than he already did, exercising his authority over her more oppressively.

Another fairly realistic option would be their having a verbal argument or a shouting match. But, it could be one-sided, if Rafal just decided to endure some kind of berating from her.

He might just allow her to get away with yelling at him while he either defends himself, calmly, maintaining his composure without yelling. Or, he could take everything in stride, or at least silently, and listen to her, seemingly unperturbed or perhaps, wincing the whole time at her sharp tongue? Internally, he could be very pained by all the horrible, hurtful things she's saying, that he would probably deserve. Another route is that he could, strategically, agree with her and yield to her, to regain her favor, but that could be too transparent of him.

Eventually, Sophie would run out of fuel for her vituperative fire and halt her tirade against him, and she might be a little remorseful or blush, but he'd let it slide because it's her. And he needs her.

He'd probably accept any apology, half-apology, blame-shifting, or non-apology from her, just to stay on her good side. And if he were able to swallow his pride, he could give his own speech as he's wont to do, appear to understand and even empathize with her societally-oppressed, downtrodden Evil soul and heart, and apologize himself, like any good Evil "activist" would.

(Personally, I like to interpret TLEA Rafal as The Ultimate Evil Activist™. So, er, take that however you want.)

I think he'd hold himself back from violence against her if it crossed his mind because he probably has the self-control to know that aggression would only worsen his chances with her, no matter what satisfaction it could bring him in the short term.

Alternatively, he could seize her and initiate a kiss against the wall in the same forceful way Sophie did to him once.

If not that, shock is another option I can go back to. He knew, to an extent, that she viewed him as "all-powerful" even though he wasn't. Maybe, he'd be impressed by how brazen she was to slap him at all. He'd never admit that to her, I think, but he'd probably glow inside about the fact that he's (why not credit himself?!) influenced her enough (ahem, provoked her enough) to become more violent, even if it backfired against him. Plus, he could harness that violence of hers during the upcoming war and redirect, train, refine it, towards a more productive cause. Their victory. Because, that violence is also an indicator that his plan for her to embrace Evil wholeheartedly is succeeding, even if his parallel plan to court her is simultaneously failing. (Picture mental fist-pumping, like: yes, yes, yes, basically.)

So, there's a chance he'd remain expressionless. However, he could display shock on his face if he weren't able to control his emotions, or he could grin like a pathetic, love-sloshed idiot, much to her disdain or ire at not being taken seriously.

Whether or not he'd recognize and agree that he was in the wrong due to whatever he'd done to earn himself the slap, he could also try to make it up to her, whether his apology is sincere or not. I'm sure that in either case, he'd resort to personally bringing her (or materializing from afar) more and more opulent gifts—because, what more does he know about her that he could use to his advantage? Not a lot, to be fair.

Maybe, the gifts would appease her while he temporarily stays out of her sight, so she doesn't get mad at him again?

The least likely scenario, in my opinion, would occur if he truly didn't know whether slapping were a thing that "normal young people" did while "dating," and he took the slap as a sign of things going regularly, if not badly.

To be fair, he's watched Ever courtships for years (and he surely must've observed Agatha punch Tedros in the eye over the Gargoyle debacle), but this is Evil's Love—something unheard of, something never before seen. Should it be held to new standards? If so, what standards? What should he expect? What should he set, if the standards are up to him to determine? Should he really hope to imitate the Evers' love on every front? He's had zero successful past relationships, so how could he know?

If this happened, I bet he'd obsess over the meaning of Sophie's slap.

He might have to process it and puzzle over what exactly went wrong for days before he returned to set things right with Sophie. And if he did that, he'd potentially inadvertently abandon her in the tower for those several days, leaving her to wonder if she's going to starve there as her punishment, or die from "the plague," assuming he forgot about everything else and his obsession took hold of him.

(And leaving her alone could be a strategy itself, whether intentional or not, so she would begin to crave his presence again.)

This would also mean, he'd have deal with far more external complications because the assumption that he'd desert Sophie for a short period, the way he did to Rhian for six months in the prequels, would mean he'd also desert his war-training responsibilities, leaving the Old and New students to fend for themselves, and perhaps, to devolve into anarchy—if he's not quick enough to return, provided that his Deans failed to maintain order and discipline during his absence. In fact, I could see Aric actively undermining Lady Lesso's efforts, and encouraging vicious hallway brawls and overall barbarity with Rafal gone.

Also, his love was never "enough" for his brother in the past—that could easily spiral into self-doubt, even if his ego would protect against it. Then again, he's likely more sensitive to rejection if it's from her specifically since he actually values her opinions of him. I feel like he'd just brood in the no-longer-Blue Forest, sit there and do nothing but cycle that thought around and around, because, his plan, his plan that he's had for 200 years, his last hope, is currently falling through all around him, all due to one slap, and what if that means all hope is lost!? All that work for nothing. A terrifying prospect. What then? He'll have nothing if he doesn't have Sophie by his side.

I think he'd know better than to think that so quickly though. Dramatizing things just entertains me.

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Now for Rhian.

Rise Rhian could easily say something about the inferiority of Evil, and that could've insulted Sophie indirectly because I don't believe he would, while still Good, stoop to insulting her directly.

He'd probably just assign her a benign punishment, like dishwashing duties, or confine her to her dorm, given that she is a student and technically one of his wards, even if she's a Never because in this case, she acted against him, not the Evil School Master. So, perhaps, it wouldn't turn out like it did in book 1 with Lady Lesso. If he had no jurisdiction over the Nevers though, the punishment could be the Doom Room, if the decision fell to Rafal. And Rafal would not give a student preferential treatment if they slapped his brother!

Now, if Rhian were sympathetic enough to Sophie and her ongoing suffering in Rafal's School, he could cover the incident up and spare her. Let's face it: while Good, he seems like the lenient, bleeding-heart sort. Maybe, to him, it'd be the right thing to do because she seems kind of fragile and vulnerable. And she's Everish, which could appeal to him emotionally.

Then again, Rise Rhian has poor judgment, so maybe he'd stall and overthink deciding on any course of action, and wouldn't know what to do with her. He might not even feel like he could bring himself to discipline her, and might just continually obsess over it, as the indecision eats away at him. And, in the moment, maybe, he'd just flush red and tear up a little because she's been so cruel to him!

Fall Rhian, on the other hand, would probably insult her and do it so scathingly well. If she slapped him... she'd probably be a dead girl walking at that point. Could he incinerate her? Very possibly.

Midway through Fall, Rhian might just assign her a demanding punishment or task, really, of the same nature (and severity?) as Midas'.

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And that is all I have for now. If there are any outcomes I haven't thought of, feel free to tell me what you think!

Quintana: You should be locked up! You are a danger to humanity!

Rafal: [seething with rage] That will never happen.

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200 years later:

Rafal: [indignantly to no one in particular] Hmpth, I chose to lock myself up!

Agatha: [through an air vent, rolling her eyes] You must've gone stir-crazy. Even locked up you still endangered us.

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Post-TLEA:

Dean Sophie: Oh, this old thing? Yes, I renovated everything in the tower—couldn't possibly live in a musty, old cell like Rafal did. I have standards.

How do you think the twins (like all of them in SGE) would act in real life?

I'm not sure if I'm interpreting your question correctly, so you can correct me if I'm wrong! I will take the ask to mean that you'd like to know how I think they would they adjust to our modern world, not necessarily them in a Modern AU. (Also, would you like me to include Castor and Pollux? I'm not sure if I'd have an immediate response for them, but I'll try to think of something, if you'd like me to.)

Sophie and Rise Rhian would probably embrace modern conveniences, and Rhian would likely exhibit more fear than Sophie would, in response to them, or he'd conceptualize things like electricity, for instance, as a just another form of sorcery. They would both appreciate modern cosmetics and technology, and Sophie would probably never want to return to old, backward ways when the future is so pristine and sanitary. Rhian, however, would mourn the great architectural feats of our past and our obsession with pragmatism and designs purely focused on utility. Unfortunately, I could see them being prone to believing absurd, medical/political conspiracy theories, and their germophobia becoming worse.

Agatha, Rafal, TCY Rhian, and Japeth would be more skeptical about modernity, at first, I think. Agatha would probably grow used to it, but continue to live by her old ways and values, in many cases. She might get into environmentalism, humanitarian causes, or antiwar efforts, etc. If either Rafal, Rhian, or Japeth saw a use or benefit to modern technology and ways of life, they would likely adapt, especially if it could get them something they desperately wanted. Rhian would probably use some form of broadcasting or social media frequently—and eventually get cancelled. I could also see Rafal or Japeth trying to radically change or impact the modern world if it provoked them. Japeth could go down the activism route (if it's in regards to his being gay), but I can't see him being that selfless about others' rights, others who have nothing to do with him, and I can't come up with any modern objects or activities that might appeal to him. Maybe, he'd even disavow modern technology, if it proved it weren't a means to getting Aric back. In addition, I could also see Rafal being incredibly rude in commanding voice-operated devices, and refusing to entertain the trivial, human-like gestures machines are programmed to recite, like greetings, and he would rarely use "please" and "thank you" in his commands. He'd have no patience for small talk or manufactured, repetitive, pleasantness because it's just a machine, and he'd be damned if a machine expected more respect from him than any human subordinate ever would! And, he'd get irrationally offended by certain output before he realized why things did what they were preprogrammed to do, such as give simple-minded answers that could appear to be an insult to his intelligence and common sense, as, a machine couldn't know his identity. After all, machines aren't capable of being hostile like Adela Sader was. So, eventually, he'd learn. Also, getting automated or human directions from the bodiless voices of intercom systems, at self-checkout lines, or on public transportation would probably infuriate him because he's so used to being the greatest authority at all times. Why abide the law when you can keep above it?

I love this take and the warm/cold juxtaposition. It reminds of some interpretation I once read elsewhere, that when he raised his hand to Sophie at the end of TLEA during his death scene, possibly to kill Sophie out of spite, it could've also been so he wouldn't be alone in death, implying that he wanted to take her down with him, so they'd be united again.

(Also, have you read Fall, or do you just like the old view of canon/continuity better like I oftentimes do?)

Anyway, Sophie and Rafal's TLEA dynamic always reminds me of a very particular genre of painting: "Death and the Maiden." (I have a WIP AU for this concept actually. Even Rhian and other characters have roles too.) Thus, the concept can easily be assigned to their dynamic, considering Rafal's physical coldness in TLEA and elsewhere, and yet, in some cases, Rafal is not in Death's role, like you said, due to his fear, which is interesting in itself, that he can be both.

Inspired by @wisteriaum's "dance with death" piece.

I'd love to hear the explanations or thought processes behind your answers.

And yeah, I guess I'm romanticizing/satirizing all this. What about it? /j

Sophie ought to be due more credit. How is she so sophisticated and cosmopolitan in spite of being from a close-minded town? She couldn't have derived everything she knew about high society and fashion from just the storybooks, surely? Maybe she was more inventive and pioneering than any of us could've thought since, upon becoming Dean, I think she launched several Woodswide trends.

SGE Characters' Potential Majors:

Rhian (prequels): Psychology, minor in Architecture.

Rafal: Forensic Studies, minor in Literature.

August Sader: Classics or Philosophy.

Evelyn Sader: Anything along the lines of Communications, Public Relations, Journalism/Media Studies, or Gender Studies.

Sophie: Fashion/Design/Visual Arts, minor in Public Relations or Literature.

Agatha: Social work or Law, minor in Literature.

Tedros: Political Science.

Callis: Chemistry, Medicine, or Biomedical Engineering.

Midas: Economics. (I can't think of anything better. Perhaps, a minor in Literature because he's a Reader?)

Hook: Maritime Studies. (Possibly, a minor in Linguistics or Translation? He'd need to know whatever the Woods' lingua franca is, if he's to travel the world.)

Aladdin: Undeclared. (Nothing wrong with being Undeclared, despite the fact that I'm associating it with him. I just feel like he's the noncommittal sort and he'd be undeclared for far too long. Maybe he'd eventually go into Business?)

Japeth: Physics or Aeronautics. (If you're reading this, Jude, I couldn't come up with anything better. Feel free to fill in the blanks!)

Rhian (TCY): Political Science or Communications.

Kyma: Sociology. (Or possibly Anthropology. I can't think of anything much better for her either.)

Rufius: Culinary Arts.

Merlin: Gender Studies and Astrophysics/Astronomy/Cosmogony (or Mathematics, Chemistry, or Physics).

Hester: Sociology and Criminology.

I CAN’T BELIEVE IT.

All this time, I just thought I’d completely made up a false, very subjective “theory” that Sophie’s behavior and appearance shifted to become colder and calcified in TLEA because Rafal had acted out some kind of lie of omission and breathed his soul into her (and I wanted to come up with yet another plausible reason for Sophie to distrust him in TOTSMOV41.) And then, I come across this page, at random, only to see this description of “a strange warmth,” which could just be physiological warmth, some product of strong emotion on Sophie’s part. But it also could be interpreted as the same warmth James Hook felt with Rafal’s soul inside him! (In truth, I doubt that, at the time of publication, this moment was meant to signal this particular interpretation based in the prequels, but I’ll take it because it happens to be convenient for me.)

Also, if I stopped to acknowledge Fall, another question arises: did the quality of Rhian’s soul transform along with his appearance, to more closely resemble Rafal’s soul? Why and how could it be warm and reassuring? Rhian’s soul, while Evil, was unstable in Fall. So, maybe more than his appearance metaphysically shifted over time to match Rafal, making him more than an near-exact replica of his brother visually, down to a soul level, seemingly.

The only inconsistency here that doesn't fit is he kisses her hand. Thus, I doubt any breath actually gets into her lungs.

1 week until the SGE movie is out!!! (Also dead end s2 is out tommorow)

Who else is excited??? You can comment spoilers if you see this after watching the movie/season. I don't care about spoilers.

Just 1 more day til SGE is released! I think I've been waiting for this literally since primary school... so exciting!!!

YALL I LITERALLY SQUEALED

I'm gonna wait til I can devote my full attention to it cause i have hw to do but I'm so exciteddddd

This is gonna be a long ass commentary piece as I finally stop procrastinating and I watch the SGE movie.

Buckle up prowlers and princexs and make sure to follow the rules. This line is headed to the school for good and evil.

Not even watching and the cover photo makes me excited. Is she wearing a crown of thorns? Slay. Love the font they used too

The orchestral music and the effects as the title rolls in... I understand what happy crying is now

I usually hate silent reading in movies but I think it was the right move here and the music is kinda eery but also ethereal. A balance of good and evil ♡

STRAIGHT TO A FIGHT WITH THE BROTHERS

THE DRAMA I LOVE THE RED VERSUS BLUE

I love Rhians coat and the automatic way you can tell who is evil with their mannerisms

OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS

OH MY GOD RHIAN TOSSED RAFAL OFF A CLIFF? I THOUGHT HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DIE?

Non Canon compliance or a red herring?

Straight into decadence and a fancy ball after the intensity. This is such a beautiful interpretation of what I think is Sophie's dream.

I kinda wish they had stayed with this like in the book but also the fight was epic so I won't complain

SOPHIE IS SO PRETTY hate her dress love the actress LOVE THE GLASS SHOES

And the narrator saying how she sees herself mwah chefs kiss

BRUV JUST GOT FIRED FOR DROPPING A GLASS CAUSE HE WAS IN AWE OF HER BEAUTY

Wait does Helena already live with them? That's not meant to happen til the 2nd book. But it does explain further why Sophie wants to leave Gavaldon so I'll let it pass

HER DRESS ONG I'm in love costume design is on point so far

Why is Helena, if it is Helena, blaming Sophie for throwing tomatoes her devil children did that

But then again the whole point of Sophie was she had a good life where she had a living family and was narcissistic and beauty obsessed and that's why she was evil even though her actions were 'good'

Ooh Aggie's turn!

Wait are they not starting on the choosing day? It seems like everyone is going about their normal lives which is the exact opposite of what happens when the choice night happens. Idk what the proper term is for the kidnapping

Side note I wonder if Sophie is ever gonna read the story book she does in the beginning with the witch who had a bracelet of bones so that the connection between Ansdil and the witch is present (or was it Hester? Sure wasn't Dot)

I'm 6 minutes in btw. I'm never gonna finish at this rate lol

I love the design of Graves Hill

REAPER MY BABY BOI

I love Agatha's design! And Callus too

I love that their first shot together is them separated by a road being jeered at four being weird. I hope it's echoed later in the movie it'd be such a good recurring theme of separation between good and evil and then they kiss and go home to connect them (at least in the book they kiss)

As much as I love it I do miss the idea of Sophie having to drag Agatha out of the house and having the small interaction with Radley that shows she isn't as good as she makes herself out to be

Wait Sophie ignored her mothers grave (book) and now she's reading at it (movie)? Why not just have a funeral scene instead? Though she is a (adorable) child in this scene so maybe it's different now that's she's grown? Or maybe they just nixed that detail?

Also Sophie made friends with Aggie as a good deed now its a genuine friendship? Or was 5-7 year old Sophie already plotting ahead?

STICKCROWN JUST LIKE IN THE- OHHHHHHHHH

I do like the first actual conversation further solidifying Sophie's emphasis on beauty trying to give Aggie a makeover.

The causul insults and the way the two are in synch is so good though, the chemistry of these actors is amazing! Can't wait for them to fight each other later

[Agatha chortles] idk why that's funny

I feel like book Sophie would be offended being called a prig but idk what that even means

Aggies social anxiety and everyone being mean to her

OH SHOWING THE GOOD WITH THE GOAT LOVE IT

Omg this guy is threatening a child

AND IT'S SOPHIE WITH THE STEEL PAN

Wait Sophie I can see as a major customer but Aggie denounces all things fairytale (except for her secret stash). Also don't the books come like every for years and the kids all line up to get a copy? What happened to that? This store should be empty

I spoke too soon Aggie is ridiculing her for reading kids books while holding an edgy story.

Sophie should 200% own Cinderella already are you joking? I get why they did it though they can't just info dump like in a book plus it's the og copy she's looking at

I feel like they could've done a flashback to explain the SGE. Everyone in Gavaldon knows it. They'd be stupid not to, they have a big event where bad kids join the choir and good ones cut off their hair and all the adults hold torches In a ring around the village. But if they are kids they wouldn't know

Love the insane asylum line from Aggie though

Why twenty years ago. This is a every 4 years deal. Wtf making it rare changes fucking everything

And only one girl? They're supposed to be in pairs! One good one evil

I feel like Sophie's letter could have been written to convince the school master to take her WITHOUT CHANGING THE ENTIRE FUCKING KIDNAPPING HOOK

They are supposed to be special because they are good and evil who are friends. Not because they're the only ones to be taken in a Fucking pair.

That kid that bites people is thereby going erased so how is Agatha going to realize the fairies and wolves are failed students? She gonna recognize Leonara who's she's never seen in her life?

I was so excited to see the Schoolmaster chase scene where Agatha jumps through fire to save Sophie but I don't that will happen

And the terrible home life justifies Sophie wanting to leave. Originally it was cause she thought she was better than everyone else but now it's cause she has a bad life. They haven't built up her "good but actually not a good" side at all.

I was so excited but everything's changed and not in a good way. Fucking Wishing Tree. They just did it cause it's easy not cause it's accurate.

I hope the rest of the movie is less... disappointing. It had so much potential just to slap me in the face with its utter ignorance of Canon.

I love Agathas emotional speech to get her to stay and Sophie betraying her that's the only close to evil thing she's done so far

Oh I love this chase scene this was what I was excited for

AHHH THE BIRD LOOKS SO COOL!!!!

The castles are so cool I love them

Hahahaa Hort is such a creep now THAT is Canon compliant

HAH SHE JUST BITCH SLAPPED A FAIRY

These good girls omg, pretending their nice and calling Aggie an it in the same breath

Loving the costume design and I have a feeling I know who Beatrix and Kikyo are~

Can't wait to see the baddies

Sophie is finally showing her bad side and LADY LESSO IS SLAYYYYING

Still wish it was every 4 years like the books but I'm gonna have to let it slide if I want to make it through this

Wait they gotta Memorize everything on the first day? That's true evil. I love it but I do miss the snake basket maybe they'll have the uniform in one

Hahaha I love Agatha

Professor Dovey AHHHH She is a golden goddess

She comes off a bit condescending but also kind. But threatening jeez

Armour she says while hundreds of dresses come in. Also they're meant to have uniforms why is she getting a choice? Is this for casual wear?

Omg they look so out of place even in clothes that fit their school it's perfect.

The Evers chatting ever and then the school for evil chants kill you? Mood.

Why are they starting before the boys get there that's rude.

Ohh ok so instead of the theater moving the first year boys have to sword fight in front of the school. Much more practical ngl

AH TRISTAN

Damn Tedros swung in on a rope, the drama

NO USE THE SWORD YOU DUMB DRAMATIC BITCH bringing fists to a sword fight smh

Yup Beatrix for sure who I thought she was, Kikyo currently uncomfirmed

School for Evil represent!

Ok I understand why he didn't use Excalibur fighting his own side for fun now

I hope the Cyclops wins but I know he won't unfortunately

I love the rose toss. If he hadn't looked back he wouldn't throw it to Agatha and now it's a set up for Sophie and Tedros's relationship

Ooh ok a Lil nice moment btwn Ted and Agatha I see you foreshadowing lovely

Who is this bitch please say it's not the Schoolmaster please say it's fucking Pollux or something

The dorm is so cool

Also what fucking dorm room locks from the outside? Or were those bitches holding the door?

AH THE BADDIES ARE SO COOL

Also who introduces their father with themself? This isn't a descendents fanfic

Your name is Dot but Sophie is weird

The Evil room has the perfect aesthetic

So it's cupids instead of gargoyles?

Demon cupids

I love the dynamic between Dovey and Lesso

I'm sorry is that blood? RAFAL

Bitch just threatened Aggie and poofed the fuck out

Wait where is the mirror in between the bridge

OH THE FIGHT BETWEEN SOPHIE AND HESTER IM SALVATING

We got off on a rocky start but 42 minutes in and all is forgiven your my fate to the trial by tale tonight

'Something' acting like it wasn't a whole ass man dancing in blood

Shit is going fast

Oh no it is the schoolmaster :(

He's meant to be mysterious :((((

I wish they waited a bit for the Storian reveal but I get it, they've got a time limit can't be as drawn out as the book

The height difference kills me Aggie is so tall lmao

Wait everyone moved out of Aggies room why are their people in there? No one wanted to bunk with the witch?

Sophie is wearing a crown of twigs♡♡♡

The kiss list omg

Oh no red head isn't Tristan. That's disappointing. I bet he's the bite kids replacement

Why be revolting? None of them are they're all stunningly beautiful. Ig that's why the uglification class exists

Um I'm sorry I thought Anemone was the classic cone hat princess who taught animal communication? Nvm checked my book she is the beautification teacher I was thinking of Uma

This scene would've worked better with the original Aggie who never smiled instead of this one who smiled a fuck ton at the beginning. This scene makes no sense more that we've seen her smiling and know she can do it. Though maybe it's harder to smile on command?

Also Good is prejudiced against neurodivergents I can't tell you how many posts I've read of people having to practice smiling and facial expressions. It's the first day cut her some slack Anemone jeez

Also you give grades at the end Anemone. Prejudiced and rule breaker

HORT YOU BITCH but it was sweet that he said she'd always look beautiful to him we stan a creepy half wolf who loves women despite what they look like

Gregor is the fake Tristan! Is he replacing Kikyo or have we just not met her yet. Anyways be seems sweet

He wants to run a grocery store that's so cute

Why are they fighting on a hill? We saw that there was a courtyard they could use that is much flatter and safer

Sophie pulling bold moves, she's clearly never heard of consent jeez

JESUS CHRIST YUBA

Ooh nice moment btwn Tedros and Agatha it's Canon divergent but i like it alot better than hating each other until they recognize they're meant to be (she said condescendingly)

It's more like playful teasing than hatred. They're actually friends in this i love it

Why is Yuba's group only Evers it is meant to be the only mixed class other than lunch

JESUS DEADLY FLOWER

Yuba is very different not only in height which I don't mind but in personality he's not as gruff and jaded

She's literally watching him fail Jesus she gonna have some trauma after that

Awww lady lesso doesn't have a class made of ice? Unfortuanate

Oh and now she teaches special powers? Bruv

Oh ew Hesters skin is pulsating gross

Oh Hort told her to watch out sweet

The demon is so cool though

Yeah Sophie call the squirrels to fight a demon

Wait but she called them with a scream she meant to sing to kill them

Oh the bees turned into Rafal

Also Lady Lesso X Rafal???

Oh this is so sad Hester baby :(

WAIT SO RHIAN IS THE SCHOOL MASTER AND RAFAL IS A SPIRIT? Babe your killing me

Also no spiffy professor Sader :(

Aggie babe middle of class ain't the time to bring up Gregor

What no Uma? Dovey stole her class smh

Shit her name is Kiko? Whyd I think it was Kikyo?

Oh Aggie is so pure I love her "I wish for home for all of us"

Oh the wish fish were a baby girl I'm gonna cry this is so sweet

Fuck Agatha just saw two deaths in what to or knowledge is a row

Oh Gregor is a birdie now ♡

TEDROD YOU ASSHOLE YOU JUST KILLED GREGOR FOR REALSIES

Now they're enemies

Dovey is angry at the present but she showed it towards Aggie at first but I'm glad they got there now

AH THE DOOM ROOM ♡♡♡♡♡

Wait where is the White Wolf

Is she not going to kill him in this version

Oooh damn she yanked her extensions out (cut her hair)

YASSSS AGGIE TELL TEDROS OFF

Oh ngl she looks so fucking good with short hair

Omg shut up Rafal go away you vampiric creep

oh Teddy is actually nice to her after the punch in this version that's new and welcomed. Can't be meant to be if you want to her each other

Just like the Og Kiko is adorable

Oh ew the key pierces into them like a knife

OH EW IT GOES THROUGH THE ENTIRE FINGER

Damnnnn Sophie looks like a baddie fucking slay queen

How'd she know what's going on she came in late

The costume dept killed this film

The arrow flies straight if you're pure? Homophobic smh lmao

Calm down Hort, possessive much?

Oof if Hester doesn't kill Sophie I think Beatrix will

Ayo Bea I thought Evers never attacked

Wait Trial by Tale is meant to be an annual school thing now its a test of true love? Stop ruining my school traditions movie :(

What's next no talent show?

I wish the relationships were more developed. But there is so much that happens in the book I really can't blame them

Wait do Nevers not get a Survival class? Wtf this is rigged!

Hell yeah Aggie the dove for the win!

Sophie help him you dumb bitch you have to have learned something. Use your talent!

Don't blame Aggie for saving Tedros's life while you were being a Fucking coward. All you had to do was throw a sword at him

Stop smiling Rafal your a creep

You tell her Aggie! Fuck her up with your words!

Wait did they lock her in room 66? Does that mean that they kicked out Dot Anadil and Hester?

SHUT UP RAFAL YOU BASTARD

MANIPULATIVE ASSHOLE

CUNT LEAVE SOPHIE ALONE

DON'T TRUST HIM SOPH

OH YOU PEDO

I saw your brother Rafal your too old to be calling Sophie love

GO THE FUCK OFF ANEMONE!! YASSSSSSS QUEEN

Oh my god there is no talent show :,(

Gross she just pulled out her tooth

Lesso is Leonora? Twist

I'm glad the skipped the part where Tristan tried to be Tedros and Kiko tried to be Beatrix but i miss the talent show it would've been so dramatic and I wish they have Aggie what I believe to be her iconic night blue gown with the gold

Instead she looks like Cinderella

Damn make up team did well

Sophie and Bakugo would get along "Shut up Aggie the protagonists are talking"

I love the drama of the blood magic

She drops a bomb and then dips like a Fucking badass

Ok I know I was complaining about the talent show being canceled but I love how Sophie showed her evil by turning the teachers to dolls

Oh I just realized Agatha and Tedros were kinda matching

I miss the cupid guy he was a bitch but he was so loyal to Sophie

The Never Ball, is just a bit off but that's why I love it. Oh to be a evil student dancing in an off kilter way with no one to judge and everyone dancing with me. The one social event I long to be at

They look so happy the Evil darlings

Oh so all that happened was their clothes turned white that's not very- SOPHIE IS NORMAL NOW

What will happen to the Evers their clothes will turn black

Yes that's what happened they also they have *gasp* cuts and scars! How atrocious and also offensive to people with scars

At least they didn't put a wig on the bald kid in evil

FUCK EM UP DOT YOU GO GIRL

Hester look so pretty ♡♡♡

Wish we got to see more of Anadols rats we only saw them once :(

But then I would have been like ew rats

Hort is in sicko mode damn

shittt she's gonna kill the school master

Oh no he was pretending to his brother

GO AWAY RAFAL YOU CREEPY OLD MAN

OH SHIT NAH I TOLD YOU GUYS IT WAS A RED HERRING OHMIGOD

Um excuse me evil doesn't have to be murder it can be forcing kids to memorize their schedule on the first day

Oh Aggie your so hopeful I love you and your optimism

Don't kiss her Rafal your such a creep ugh

Wonder if his face will crack and turn into a decrepit old man one well see when I unpause

Nope

Oh no he's killing children the blood is literally pouring out the school

Oh his face is cracking

Hell yes run to Aggie

OH NO SOPHIES DEAD

Ooh killing Sophie meant that the csstles were put back nice

Ngl beatrix looks hella good in black

Goth girl supremacy

Tedros! Yessss struke the final blow King

Oof nvm lol

Oh shut Teddy's gonna die lmao

KILL HIM QUEEEN

Hell yes we live we laugh we love

Rest in pieces Rafal

Id be crying if I wasn't so dehydrated rn

Now kiss! YAAAAAAAYYYYYYY

I mean rip Sophie but yay kiss

Oh who could've guessed true platonic loves kiss would have saved her? What a surprise she said roboticly

Oh is she gonna stay with Teddy, for real? NOPE

Girl power but also this time it was more of a choice then the og where it just kinda happened

Oh they're in their office clothes with the new hair

SHE PUT THE CROWN ON AGGIE

The road is repeated but this time their on the same side i told you it was power

They legit just used magic to make birds shit on their enemies lol

OMG THEY SET UP THE SEQUEL IM DYING IM PASSING OUT IM ON THE FLOOR

♡♡♡♡♡♡/5 went through some tough spots and I miss the little details but love some of the new additions and overall the movie was amazing surpassed my expectations

For context I uh, wrote a fic involving Filip as a separate entity from Sophie.

He's her dead twin brother who currently acts as a ghost as well as a voice of reason. This fic is meant to be a FilipxTedros but it's turned into a fix-it/canon-complaint. Check it out if you want.

The latest chapter in your SFGAE fic is so good! I lost my mind at the ending, do excited for the next chapter! Make sure to take breaks and don't rush yourself ^-^

HhhHhh thank you so very much ! I'm so happy you enjoyed it and I will, you're so sweet dude what the heck.

SOPHIE OF WOODS BEYOND FROM SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL

THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL IS GREAT BUT SOME CHANGES…. are questionable

The Film is good but there are few major things changed that were kinda challenging:

(🚨SPOILERS🚨 for the Books and Movie)

1. The Rats. WHERE ARE ANADIL’S RATS🐀. The RaTs were her whole spiel, her TALENT, they match her whole aesthetic. They were in the trailer so I was so excited for giant rats to charge through causing chaos in the movie but instead…. Electrokinesis and telekinesis…..they made her into a psychic with electric powers… just WHY, and Electric blue is not EVEN HER FINGERGLOW COLOR, ITS GREEN. Why I will never understand.

2. Why did they cut The Beast scene, The part in the book where Sophie was sent to the Doom Room was because of her own mistake, SHE CAUSED A RIOT. The part where the Beast chopped off her hair and her retaliating by savagely drowning him in cold blood and afterward throwing him into the moat was actually the moment where Sophie has done something truly evil and shows that she truly deserves the title of True Evil. Because Evil Never forgives, only Good. But instead, in the movie Lesso just dragged Sophie off to be punished,……for talking to a boy….

Then the part where she cut her hair off so that she would “know her priorities”, afterwards leaving her only to be surprised when Sophie begins willingly going against her. LIKE THIS TAKES AWAYS SO MUCH FROM THE SCENE. In the Movie, Sophie is presented a unfortunate victim that was being manipulated, rejected and abused by Authority figures in the schools so we actually cheer for her when she takes back her power and thrives, when we supposed to be upset that she is actually Evil. The whole point of The Beast being the one killed was to show in a room with Sophie and a monster, Sophie is the most dangerous with the added angst in that, the creatures such as the fairies,wish fish ,manwolves,stymphs, including the Beast were actually former students that failed and The Beast was a former Ever student that failed to be Good and so was forced to slave for the School for Evil for eternity Also, Lesso punishing Sophie because she got Rafal’s attention instead of her just comes across as petty and spiteful instead of actually evil I’m sorry 😂

Changes I actually like in the movie:

1.) Gregor. Just sweet silly Gregor who just wants to run a grocery store. HE DESERVES BETTER. But honestly, changing the Gargoyle to Gregor was actually a good decision, because it shows and we see Agatha’s connection and empathy to him all the more real and understandable thus making his unjustified punishment and death all the more personal, showing how shallow the the school has truly become in judging someone to be “Good”. Also, this actually gives a good reason to punch Tedros in the face(Goodness knows that Agatha deserves to do that after everything).

2.) The Wish fish scene was changed a bit and some develovement was taken away but I still LOVED it because it had Heart. It still showed Agatha’s indecisiveness but still showed Agatha’s empathy .

3.) Rafal actually manipulating the fairytales by having Good be rewarded for doing Evil deeds, is just so in character, so sinister and just make everything so much sense from the books and the original source fairytales. It’s just immaculately Evil and I love it✨💖

4.) The actors and visuals. It’s stunning and the actors did great performances. The script though just ok

Petty things that made me upset:

The lack of food. There was so many mouthwatering foods with detailed delicious descriptions in the books, so I hoped there was good foods, but sadly 😔😞

Honestly reading the books before the movie is a curse sometimes.

This month was the month....I joined a dead fandom...😞😞

Where is the school for good and evil (BOOK) fandom??