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Woo! V (not calling her by her original name) redesign, also some thoughts about her in the main series and in my rewrite (I’ll post about it at some point).
So I don’t really like her in the main series, she’s fine but her whole personality revolving around Charlie is…weird. It feels codependent and really one-sided? There isn’t much that I can about her as a character because her character is “Charlie’s girlfriend.” I preferred her in the pilot, as much her writing wasn’t perfect. And the reveal of her being an angel meant fucking nothing. The drama between her and Charlie lasted for one episode and then in one episode she was joking about being an angel.
In my rewrite she was a Salvadoran weapons dealers, she died in 2011 at like…25-29. Choose which one you the best. She got send to hell for killing a client out of rage then killing herself out of guilt. Very upbeat I’m aware. She met Charlie while roaming the streets of hell right after an extermination searching for angelic weapons, she and Carmilla were enemies at some point but then just became rivals because V did not have NEARLY as much power as Carmilla (she was in the industry for about…10 years? Give or take a couple years) . V was the main reason she started the hotel, lost sinners who fucked but in the end didn’t deserve eternal damnation. She isn’t FULLY invested in the idea of redemption but she doesn’t quite think it’s impossible. Also she can’t fly very well by the way. She’s trying is basically the story of her life in both the real world and in hell. She’s a moth because they represent change! Also because the idea of her being weirdly short is kinda funny to me. She can pick up Charlie in one hand.
Can also apply to Stella and Moxxie, I’ll make a Hazbin variant
This ball of sunshine called me a ✨Dumbass and a Garbage Troll✨ for making a joke about the Helluva Boss subreddit. I simply left a comment under a post asking which ship is better: BlitzFizz or Stolitz and I said that I choose BlitzFizz because Stolitz is abusive. That’s all.
I read the rules and saw that there was no shipping discourse allowed so I will be respecting that and withholding my opinion (I will not be posting any discourse involving shipping in that Subreddit, I am a respectful Reddit user! 😁) .
Hazbin and Helluva critical community, remember to block user @truffhollowell who notoriously ignores every valid point and purpose of any critical post in order to bitch at and troll users. A viv stan who trolls and has no life. Literally trolling under every HB critical post out there. Remember to block and ignore do not feed the trolls.
Baby’s First MeatRider 🥰
I blocked this person because this was getting ridiculous.
This person was upset that I said Stolitz was abusive. I literally do not understand why people come onto the critical tag just to throw a conniption that people DARE have a different opinion than you. I also cannot stand when people say that “If you don’t like it, don’t watch/interact with it.” Thats stupid. If everyone were to do this, literally nothing would get done. Activism would not exist.
What got me about this person was that they were saying that I have no right to speak on a topic because it’s fictional and I should just not watch it.
They assumed that I was not a victim of SA (which I AM btw). Then they said that any type of media should be allowed if it helps SA survivors “cope”.
They continued by saying that I don’t support victims of trauma because I am against “immoral content”. Since they didn’t specify what they meant by immoral content I am assuming the worst since they also practically admitted that any media should be allowed after I asked if depictions/representation of rape, murder, child p0rn, homophobia, classism, racism, and others should be allowed as long as it’s fictional (something I am totally against btw). And MF said “any media” sooooo….
That’s called abuse.
If you like watching others get victimized because it helps you cope. Thats disgusting and you need to get help immediately. Please.
Does anyone else have anything to add? Especially about the whole “Watching depictions of SA helping a victim cope with their own experience” thing. Because maybe there’s something I’m not understanding there…
I would love your opinions!
Also FYI; Proshippers, Pedophiles, Racists, Transphobes, Homophobes, Nazis, Zionists, Misogynists, Ableists, Rape Apologists, AND Minors are not allowed on my page! DNI!!!!!
I am an adult, neurodivergent, queer, and female and I DO NOT TOLERATE ANY HATE AGAINST A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!
Helluvaverse rewrite ideas: Mrs. Mayberry × Princess Stella Goetia
When she first fell to Hell, Mrs. Mayberry was unfamiliar with the Goetia family considering she was still a new sinner in Hell. Even though she misses her time as a school teacher and spending time with her students, she tried to make due with the demonic children in the Pride Ring and teaching them everything she knows.
One day, she noticed a rather tall bird demon hiding away from something (or someone). Being the type to be a caring person to children, as well as noticing that this demon was crying, Mayberry asks her what's wrong.
At first, the girl didn't wanna talk to her since she was a stranger. It was understandable since Mayberry wasn't fully aware of the Goetia family herself. However, she did reassure this bird that she was a school teacher once and talked to students about their problems sometimes. Slowly losing her guard, the bird girl introduces herself as Octavia.
Octavia then explains to Mayberry that she ran away from home because of her dad neglecting her over someone he cheated on her mother for. Remembering that she's had a cheating husband when she was still alive, Mayberry tried to comfort Via in her struggles to have a normal life while this is happening. Via appreciated that someone as kind and compassionate as her was willing to listen to her problems without telling her to cut her dad some some slack for ignoring her.
When Via wanted to go back to her parents, she specifically asks to go back to her mother as she had a better relationship with her than her dad. Considering how Mayberry feels about men after her fall, she would agree to bring her back to her mother. At that time, Stella was living with her brother, Andrealphus, so they had to travel to the cold border of the Pride Ring to get Via home.
The moment Octavia and Mayberry approached Andre's castle, Stella greets her daughter back home, completely ignoring the sinner who was with her. It wasn't until Octavia introduced Mayberry to Stella that she took notice of the tiny little demon. To Stella, she was just another sinner who happened to have helped with finding her daughter. To Mayberry, however, Stella was almost that of an angelic being (at least, for Hell's standards); a swan with a motif for stars and constellations in a kingdom made of ice. She was beautiful. A bit of a bitch, but beautiful.
As a reward for finding Octavia, Stella suggested giving her a tiny bit of Andre's money. Mayberry denies the money, but wouldn't mind spending more time getting to know about her, especially hearing everything from Octavia's point of view. At first, Stella was already dealing with enough bullshit having a husband who'd rather sleep with an imp than spend time with his own daughter, so she was hesitant on accepting the invitation. Mayberry understood why she'd feel like rejecting her proposal and left.
After that, whenever Via and Stella were out having a "girl's night/day out", Via would always be happy to see Mrs. Mayberry in public after their talk. Stella would later realize that she meant a great deal to Via and decided to begrudgingly accept the idea of them spending time together. After all, as long as she isn't a cheating prick like her ex-husband is and Via likes having her around, why not become a bit close to someone like her?
When they decided to get together for a private tea party, Stella would ask some questions about what exactly Via talked to her about. Considering it was hard to disclose such personal information from someone in a vulnerable state like Octavia's, Mayberry explained that Via was extremely unhappy having to move between her parents' homes. Via was not happy about having a father who was neglectful of her, but she also didn't like having a mother who scared her for wanting Stolas dead. She could understand why Stella would want her husband dead since she, too, had a similar relationship with her husband.
Stella realized that she actually found a woman that she could actually relate to. It was strange that a pathetic little creature such as a sinner would deal with problems similar to hers, but it felt genuinely nice to have someone who gets how she feels. It was a bit annoying having someone be so particular about her own behavior.
Mayberry would likely be the type of person who could help Stella with being so overbearing with her, especially since she's so close to adulthood. She'd, also, try to help Stella with having to spoil her daughter less as she isn't a small child anymore. As for her own behavior, Stella enjoys having someone to listen to her about stars and constellations while sharing her own input on the matter. It was refreshing that they could actually bond over something as beautiful as the stars, even if it was more Stella's interest than Mayberry's.
Stella slowly develops some kind of romantic attraction towards Mayberry. She denied it at first considering she was still mad about the situation involving Stolas and Blitzø, but she did realize that Mayberry wasn't the type to be like her ex-husband or his sentient sex toy. She treated both her and Via as people with voices of their own and it was actually sweet that she'd be patient enough to deal with her bratty behavior. Although she knows how people would react if anyone found out about her feelings towards a sinner, it was at least better than having her be in a relationship with an imp.
As Stella and Mayberry's feelings towards each other grew, they secretly asked each other if they could become a couple. Getting to know each other and Via quite well since Mayberry first came to the castle, they start dating only as long as their relationship stays as a secret from Stella's brother.
Andrealphus soon gets suspicious of his sister having a strange little "friendship" with Mrs. Mayberry. He was already disgusted by having a sinner in his castle to spend time with his niece, but Stella taking a liking for her as well? This was just too much for him. He'd have to deal with having his sister and his niece around already, but now a lowlife sinner is visiting the castle often? Why is that? And why does his own sister get so giddy whenever she comes over? It didn't connect with him how much Stella felt trapped in her past relationship with Stolas, so he thought, Honest to Lilith, as long as we have Via to get money or power, who am I to give a shit about what my sister does? She has a friend now? Fucking good for her!
Are we legally allowed to riot if Viv doesn’t give Mammon fat rolls
Anyone willing to bet five dollars that the reason why Martha and Mrs Mayberry are a couple now is so Viv can have a “Gotcha!” Moment to people criticizing the lack of sapphic couples in both of her shows?
Bro Pinterest is better than Twitter…most people are Stolitz Stans on there….it actually upsets me how THOUSANDS of people love this abusive ship…
More of Pinterest speaking the truth about HB and HH
"Apology Tour really reeks of hypocrisy because it chastises Blitzo for not caring about those he hurts while letting Stolas all this season do the same thing and even excuses him. Seriously, this is the same man who blatantly stated he didn't feel any remorse for cheating because he felt it didn't hurt his wife even though she blatantly was pissed and it did as well affect his daughter. The guy is a hypocritical narcissistic pos who is coddled by the narrative to never realize his full actions."
"I feel like people victim blame Blitz and a lot of fans (even Vivziepop herself) infantilize Stolas and make him out to be this "uwu gay smol bean can do no wrong" when in reality he's a rich classist racist rapist."
"Stolitz is unshippable to me because of the weird classist undertones and the victim-blaming Blitz is put through. That rich owl deserves nothing!"
Don't even bother watching this. The "comedy" is the same one joke spammed over and over; And it's just the worst of Season 1's bottom-of-the-barrel "Blitz is sexually harassed PLEASE LAUGH" humor.
"If Viv really wanted to make the Pentious death scene impactful, she would've made it longer. But she didn't. He deserved better."
"Octavia is just a kid in a broken home looking for parents that would pay attention to her. But no, the writers don't even understand or even care about her situation and only cares about the romance uwu yaoi angst.. AND Brandon Rogers calls her a cockblocking whore, she's just pushed around, and her father won't even give her the time of day ever because his sorry ass wants to molest Blitzo every chance he gets. I hope Stolas dies. Octavia deserves better."
"I hate how the show treats Blitz like he’s awful and Stolas is a good guy. This whole “relationship” is based on a coercive sex deal, where Stolas demeans Blitz (at least in the first season) and has him continue fucking him once a month so he can keep his business. Nobody should care about Stolas’s fEeLiNgS when Blitz doesn’t reciprocate and calls him out or whatever BLITZ DOESN’T OWE HIM SHIT"
Imagine imps with these types of tails
the variation of each tail depends on which ring an imp is natively born from
Imps from the Envy Ring would likely have fin-like details at the tips of their tails
Wrath tails tend to have pointy spines on them
Maybe Sloth would have poofy bits of fur at the ends
just some ideas for my rewrite tbh
The thing about Vivs villains
So the Hazbin main antagonists are let me see here…..
A fat man (Adam) Black women in power (Sera, Velvette) A Latino in the sex industry (Val) An Asexual creole man who uses voodoo (Alastor) A fat woman whose a Jewish stereotype (Mimzy) And a fucking tv.
ok well what about Helluva?
a fat man (Mammon) literal babies (Cherubs) The agents one of which being a black HUMAN woman who still has grey skin A woman forced into an arranged marriage to a man she didn’t love (Stella) a cowboy (wtf is he even doing in this anymore)
but not the rich white allo rapist neglectful and biased upper class twink noooo he’s the victim of IMP, made up of a black woman, a sexual assault survivor and the guy he’s abusing.
these villains man… why are the majority minorities? Especially when we don’t see positive characters in those same minorities. Nope this is all Viv wanted to show about these minorities.
"I think half of the problems with vivziepop stories is that it feels like she wants to tell stories that are more relationship/romance focused while the greater setting/plot feels like an afterthought. I thinks that's why season 2 of helluva feels like fanfiction of itself."