Bullshit :) Jason Would Not Have Died From The Joker, He Might Have Become Morally Grey But Thats Where

Bullshit :) Jason would not have died from the joker, he might have become ‘morally grey’ but that’s where he stands currently in cannon anyway.

The literal reason Stephanie died was because Batman treated her like shit. She would have been fine without Robin, I’d even dare to say she’d be better off without it.

Damian is a bit more confusing, but I don’t think Talia or Ra’s would want him dead. Ra’s would wither want him as a body vessel, or as a tool. Talia is a more confusing character, and I’d rather stay out of her character lmao, don’t wanna anger anyone.

Batman is a shitty father, and if the Dc universe was good and fair, children really wouldn’t be child soldiers. I think what ur trying to say is that Robin made them ‘better’ people, but that wasn’t true for Steph. Jason didn’t need Robin, he just needed to chanel his anger somewhere good, his death was a bit of everyone’s fault, especially his mothers. Damian just needed to feel like he was doing good, so I suppose Robin was important for him, but his death was completely Talia and Bruce’s fault.

WITHOUT ROBIN IN THEIR LIVES? JASON, STEPH, AND DAMIAN WOULD HAVE PROBABLY DIED MUCH SOONER. ROBIN SAVED THEM, ROBIN SAVED EVERYONE IN SOME WAY.

So. Damian has outstanding mimicking abilities.

I KNOW FOR A FACT, that that little gremlin child is not above calling Jason from Bruce’s phone and using HIS voice to tell him that he loves Jason after Jason pisses him off.

This can be Jason angst, or just Damian crack, either way, THINK ABOUT IT!

(I love Damian too much for it to be a angst fic but it’s fineeee)

??? So what ur implying is that only the blood related people are batfamily? 😭 I love Damian, but the whole point of the Batfam was ‘found family with issues’, and just turning it into ‘Talia, Bruce and Damian’ is pretty boring and defeats the whole purpose of Batman having a family.

The family of Damian, Dick, Jason, Tim, Bruce, Cass, Duke, Stephanie and Barbara is complicated because not all of them see each other as family

(Steph and Barbara don’t see Bruce as a father figure, but Steph sees Damian, Tim, Jason, Cass and etc as her siblings. Dick and Damian have a semi-Father/son relationship which they refuse to acknowledge because Dick isn’t ready for that responsibility. Damian and Tim get into horrible fights with each other constantly, but Tim still refers to Damian as ‘his little brother’ and while Jason and Dick see each other as siblings, Jason and Damian DESPISE each other. Jason has tried to kill Tim before, but Tim and Jason are on good terms now. Barbara is Dicks ex/girlfriends, but has sister/mentor relationship with his sister Cass. Duke gets along best with Jason and is one of the few people Damian openly likes. Helena (Huntress) is Bruce and Selina’s daughter in another universe. Selina and Bruce have a cat and mouse situation going on, which never seems to end.)

Their family is messy and complicated and not everyone likes each other, but they’re family non-the less.

Turning that into ‘Talia, Bruce and Damian’ only is so stupid and boring, and removing amazing dynamics that the family include.

It’s fine if you ship ‘Bru-Talia’ but you don’t actually have to remove every single one of Bruce’s adopted kids, and said kids ex’s/bestfriend who are basically part of the family now. It makes BruTalia boring and makes everything else boring. It’s just an average-normal family then, which nobody really wants to read about.

(By the i mean people would rather read about they’re messy and, personally, more interesting dynamics)

(I don’t mean Gotham War tho)

(That’s just stupid)

Anyway, sorry for the ranting lmao, I just really got invested in writing this :D

Batfamily

NO

BATFAMILY

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1- The top voted person went to jail for a crime they did not commit.

2- Second most voted person actually committed the crime.

3- Third most voted person dared person 2 to commit said crime.

4- Fourth most voted person was person 1’s lawyer, who was actually on person 2’s side all along.

5- Fifth most voted person is 🤌🏻 close to saying ‘FUCK YOU!’ and going to live with Barbara. And become batgirl. For some reason. (They were the second suspect of said crime, though they had nothing to do with the crime)

6- Sixth most voted person is the only one on Person 1’s side and is trying to get them out of jail

7- Seventh most voted person is Person 2’s lawyer who ?somehow? won, though it was clear they weren’t even trying.

8- Eighth most voted person is secretly the one who bribed Commissioner Gordon to put Person 1 in jail for a week, because Commissioner Gordon was too smart and knew it wasn’t actually person 1 (whether he knew it was person two or not, depends on the answer)

9- Ninth most voted person is also for some reason in jail, for reasons Unkown. They are glaring at all the criminals menacingly, and person 1 is too annoyed to ask why they’re there.

10- Tenth most voted person was called by person 1 to bail them out, but was ‘cut off’ because of ‘bad signal, sorry’

11- Eleventh most voted person tried framing person three for the crime, and is now in Kent Farm for some reason???

Dick would mostly just manipulate the seats to make sure Bruce is furthest from him and have his favourite people of the day next to him. Doesn’t care about where everyone else sits.

Jason would just ask for disaster. Strategically placed for everyone to FIGHT so he can either leave or enjoy the show.

Cass would force people who dislike each other to sit next to each other and tell them to ‘Get over it, stop fighting’

Tim would leave it for last second and would accidentally end up seating Damian with Jason, which ends in disaster.

Stephanie would just try and get everyone to sit in the lounge to eat dinner instead, so that they can watch legally blonde. She almost succeeded once, so now Alfred won’t let her set the table anymore.

Duke end up putting up pranks or something because ‘Omg I got bored! Sue me!’, resulting in a full on brawl of ‘honour’.

Damian would send Jason and Tim to the ‘kiddie table’ or make his pets sit on all the chairs just to piss everyone off. He would only let Stephanie, Duke and Dick sit down, everyone else can STAND.

Harper would use those ‘spin the wheel’ apps to decide who sits where. It doesn’t end up well.

Cullen would literally ask everyone where they want to sit, without telling them where everyone else is sitting, and by the end of it it’s a fight because ‘I PUT DIBS ON THAT SEAT THOMAS, BACK OFF’ and ‘I DIDNT KNOW BRUCE WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME WTH???’

So obv the only logical choice is Barbara.

(Idk, i accidentally clicked Damian, my whole body is biased :( )

Who is the most stubborn Batboy?

If your answer is anything short of ‘all of them’ your biased and you know it.

Dick trained a killer to be Nite-Wing, to prove a point.

Jason became the mafia boss of Crime Alley, to prove a point.

Tim teamed up with Ra’s Al-Ghul, to prove a point.

Duke made a whole Robin-Gang, to prove a point.

Damian beat up The Joker with a crowbar, to prove a point.

And that’s not even all of there stubborn antics! There’s no ‘most stubborn’ or ‘most out of pocket’. They’re all batshit crazy. You can’t just choose one.