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Writing for the Al Ghul Family is so difficult. For Example I want to write Damian as a character who struggles with right and wrong. Like he does frequently in canon. Then I also want to write Talia as someone who is morally grey and compassionate. But it's difficult to write a kid who is so angry and entitled but then deny how a large part of that is because of how the Al Ghul's raised him. How can I write a caring, compassionate mother Talia al Ghul when her kid is struggling with so much, let's be honest, abuse.
But then I fall into the trap of making it sound like Batdad is a great parent when in a lot of cases he isn't. Like I'm making Talia Al Ghul to be an evil parent just to make Bruce sound like a good parent. I despise the whole Batfamily is good and the Al Ghul Family is evil, black and white nonsense. Especially when the Batfamily has also fucked up with their own quite frequently.
Not to mention if you make the argument that raising your kids as assassins is bad then how can someone make the argument that Bruce training kids to fight crime around the ages of 10-12 years old as any better?
I just want to write morally grey Al Ghul family but I keep on falling into the trap that is called canon and it is really hard to get out of it. At this point it's difficult to write the Al Ghul's as anything but evil.
Anyways thank you for listening to me vent my internal struggles.
My condolences to any other writers out there who are suffering the same fate.
talia had potential to be bruce's best love interest but dc fucked it up
Talia in the Sons of Anarchy AU is still darkly morally gray, intense, and uses both those things to do what she wants. (this happens at least every 6 months)
You forgot about the Robins
Trying to date Batman/Bruce Wayne must be like being Scott Pilgrim except on steroids. Like oh you want the date the Dark Knight? You wanna kiss him? Deal with Catwoman. No we’re not done now try not to get stomped to death by Harvey Dent. Okay now try not to get murdered by Talia Al Ghul in your sleep. Superman is waiting outside too btw. Watch out for Ghostmaker around the corner he’s gotta steel chair and a knife. Joker is not his boyfriend but that freak is absolutely gonna be a problem. Good luck soldier.
They are the divorced couple that no one actually knows if they're divorced or not.
I love them, but PLEASE PULL IT TOGETHER!! ARE YOU TOGETHER OR NOT?!
my beloved divorcees
I will always hate Grant Morrison’s Batman run specifically because of how his racist and sexist portrayal of Talia has ruined her character over the years
Way too many fans assume because of that that man story that Talia assaulted Bruce and is a bad mother to Damian when is a way more complex character
She is kind, thoughtful and protective of the people she loves and the environment but she is also conflicted with what she wants for herself and being the assassin that Ras raised her to be
She loves Bruce and she loves Damian and she isn’t abusive towards either of them, she’s a good person deep down, she just doesn’t always make the best decisions
5' Bruce and 6'6 Talia
5' Bruce and 6'6 Talia
I'm gonna redraw one (or a couple) piece(s) that I've done, so if u want,,,, tell me which ones u want to see re-done
Another poll!! I love making polls, it's so hard to hold back from posting loads at once
Little note: please do not ship him with the batkids (they're his kids) or the joker (j brutally murdered his son). I will delete your comment.
I personally prefer Talia and Khoa, the only version of the Joker I like is Gotham's Jeremiah Valeska. The idea of him staying single is nice too, we need more Bruce worried about his kids.
Spencer Reid is a bat Good Mom!Talia Editon One-shot
Spencer Reid has been an enigma for as long as Derek had known him.
Eidetic memory, never wore matching socks, love for statistics and math, and a special interest in languages, etc. Reid was one of his closest friends in the bau for years now, but he'd never have guessed how hot his mom was.
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Spencer was having a terrible day. Firstly, he forgot his lunch, missed his stop, had to wait for the next, and then almost ran to work, and when he finally made it, the coffee machine was broken. The only thing that was going to save it was the fact his mom was coming into town for a mission and wanting to meet up after work.
"You're late, pretty boy!" Morgan laughed at him. He attempted to ruffle his hair, but he dodged it, knocking himself against his desk. That would leave a bruise. At least his family wasn't here, Dami would tell him he was embarrassing the family name despite the fact he didn't even have the family name.
"Fuck..." he grumbled clutching his leg and limped behind his desk to collapse into his chair.
"Definitely not my day." He complained.
"Come on, boy genius! At least we dont have a case!" Penelope exclaimed.
"Pleaee for the love of God dont jinx us." Prentiss begged, lining up her paperwork on her desk.
"Bad day, Spencer?" She queried amused." Don't even get me started." He complained, throwing his arms back.
She snickered at him but returned to her own work. Garcia continued past to her own office after stealing her pen he borrowed yesterday, and Morgan simply smirked and sat back down.
The day continued with occasional questions or jokes. Some of the paperwork had begun to stack, and they were taking the day to complete it, but the rhythm of paperwork was drolling.
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Penelope had made a deliciously delightful and creamy pasta dish for dinner last night and taken the leftovers to split with her chocolate thunder. Derek and her were currently on their way to the closest microwave when they saw her.
Her being an incredibly good-looking older woman of possible Middle Eastern descent approached them.
"You two look like you know your way around the building, care to show me the way to the cafeteria?" She spoke with a calm and fluid voice with slight humor in it and an Arabic accent. The kind of voice, the words, that just roll together, and you just know they sing heavenly. Her eyes were sharp and intelligent, and it raised a slightly uneasy feeling in her stomach.
She was dressed simply but richly. The kind of clothes she could only dream to buy and never pull off.
"I don't know who's asking?" Derek attempted to flirt.
"I don't appreciate my time being wasted by shameless dogs like you. I'm already spoken for, and even if i wasn't, i certaintly wouldn't waste my time with you." She spoke harshly, shoving past between them barely avoiding bumping shoulders.
"Good lordy, what her problem?" She attempted to joke, trying to pick up her slack jaw.
"I don't know, but i don't like it." Derek warned in that sexy and mysterious voice of his.
Derek turned around and trailed behind that woman's expensive pencil skirt. She unfortunately realized that she wasn't going to be able to heat up her pasta and would have to eat it cold again. She lamented for a second, then followed him past the few people milling about.
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Derek had been in the fbi, police, and marines way too long to not be suspicious of a woman like that. He's seen plenty of men underestimate pretty women and miss the sharp keen eyes and get stabbed by their sharp keen knives, and he wasn't going to let that happen to any of his friends. Mostly Reid and Baby girl, the others don't need his help all that much.
She was walking fast, suddenly with a mission, and Derek somehow lost her in the lunch crowd. Eventually, he realized he couldn't see her and was getting nowhere, so they made the decision to head back to the bullpen she was probably long gone anyway.
By the time they made their way back after they found a microwave , they had all but forgotten about the mysterious woman until they saw her perched on Spencer's desk stealing his food.
Henquicku catologed the others in room watching in the room. Rossi and Emily were shamelessly watching a few desks away while Hotch and JJ were near his office on the railing, both pretending not to notice.
"What's going on?"He whispered to them. "That is apparently a woman close enough with Spencer to go to his apartment while he's gone and notice his lunch is on the counter so she made him homemade to replace it and brought it to his work." Rossi stated without looking away.
The woman was smiling lovingly at Spencer, and sharing a large dish of some Middle Eastern dish, he'd butcher the name of.
They continued shamelessly staring, but the woman would occasionally look st, then from the corner of her eyes. Spencer was laughing with her and smiling wider than he's seen him smile in years.
" I can't do this anymore. I'm asking them." Emily suddenly announced stsndingnuo and taking the room in great strides.
" Wait, Prentiss-" both he and Rossi tried in vain to stop her and were outmatched by Garcia folding shirts after her much slower.
"Hi, SSA of the BAU Emily Prentiss." She introduced herself with a kind smile and an outstretched hand.
"It took you all long enough to end your blatant eavesdropping." She spoke harshly, staring at the hand as if it had personally offended her.
"Talia, please not now." Spencer hissed at her, his voice scandalized.
"But habbibi-," the newly dubbed Talia tried defensively, attempting to explain himself.
Habbibi? Wasn't that some kind of Arabic word for love or something like it. He really wasn't as languidly gifted as the others.
"These are my friends and coworkers. Please play nice for my sake." Spencer pleaded. He could see Hotch and JJ finally making their way to them from the corner of his eye.
He turned to look questionably to look at Rossi but only got a shrug and a grimace all in one.
"Talia, pleased to make your acquaintance." She spoke as if her words poked at her own being.
" I'm-" He attempted.
"I already know who you all are, kalb." She spoke disdaned.
" Mom!" Spencer shouted suddenly incredibly offended.
"Mom...?" He heard Garcia mutter under bresth. You and me both baby girl.
" Reid, who is this?" Hotch questioned.
" Why I'm his mother. Don't you see the resemblance?" She spoke smoothly, her chin coming to rest on her hand. Her crossed legs and one hand on her lap while the other rested on her leg holding her head up directly contrasting Spencer's scandalized face, but the way he was now leaning backward arms crossed staring her down started to seem a little familiar.
While their mannerism were similar, their everything else was different. Spencer face shared no Middle Eastern features, and with light curly brown hair and chocolate eyes, her straight dark brown hair, and almost glowing emerald eyes, they were far from having any family resemblance.
"I thought your mother was Diana Reid?" Garcia asked hesitantly.
"Well, genetically speaking, yes." He answered, cringing st his own words.
"And legally." Hotch spoke deeply.
"Well, my beloved never cared much about laws anyway." She waved it off, disinterested.
"Mom! We are in a federal building!"
" What? You know he kidnapped Jason off the streets. That's far from the worst law he's broken anyway." She continued.
"He was later legally adopted. I never was." He spoke, his voice wavered slightly.
"Oh, habbibi, he would adopt you the second you asked. He keeps all the papers up to date in his office." She comforted.
" I... Um Hotch?-" His eyes were becoming suspiciously damp.
" Take the rest of the day, Reid." Hotch spoke simply before turning bakc to his office talimg Rossi with him. What a softie.
And as he watched Spencer and his mom walk out, he couldn't help but think more on the enigma of Spencer Reid.
A/n I loved writing Penelope and tried to bleed her cooky personality into her pov. The reason why Talia is a little bit more harsh is because she knows they weren't really there for her son when he was struggling with like Hankle and the other stuff so I wanted to make her have a bit of a grudge against them.
Batman: Bride of the Demon
by Bob Kane et Mike W. Barr
Isn’t there a version of Bruce and Talia’s story where she’s not a rapist, but gets pregnant during their relationship then lies about miscarrying seeing how close Bruce is to forgetting about his mission? Talia’s still morally gray, but that version still has plenty of drama to explore.
Plus since it seems like only fanfic writers want to take the implications of Bruce being a rape victim seriously, that road might be better anyway.
I hope one day you'll do another brutalia, you draw them so lovely
Me too! I love them so much☺️ I hope in the future I will be able to implement all my ideas for art with them
i have this little sketch for you tho
recolored panels of classic Talia Al Ghul
Lovers to enemies is one of these tropes that would be so good if I could handle it
Unfortunately I cannot
"hey glitter do you have lovers to enemies book recs" no I do not, best I can do is Son of the Demon brutalia, that one time in the bible where Jesus and Judas had a bunch of stuff going on, and the occasional twobats fanart on tumblr.
Love must prevail, I'm afraid. I would love to write it, but this account belongs to a pussy and I will cry. Fuck me.
"She is a lot like him, Talia: she hates those people like nothing else, though he doesn’t (cannot) ask, just as she doesn’t ask. But she’s also very loving, in an intense, all-encompassing way beneath the controlled elegance of her traits; like him, she latches onto love with all her heart, no matter how it bleeds and she bleeds like scalding tea, red hot flooding through the cracks, like lava under rocks."
(From Chapter 11 of The Protector: The Victim)
I take back what I said I can actually see how Talia and Battinson get together because that pathetic wet cat of a man is most definitely into people with more forceful personalities than him. He's a melodramatic mf and Talia is nothing if not a romantic so she has no issue keeping up with him. They angst about stuff together and then have dramatic fights across rooftops or gardens or something while proclaiming their "forbidden love" and calling each other nicknames that make everyone else gag. They write long, lengthy poems about each other's beauty and moral codes and the indescribable (they spend thirteen pages describing it) pull they feel towards each other and their forbidden attraction. The only difference is that Talia reads hers out to him lovingly and Battinson stutters through his, is beet red and can't look her in the eye. She thinks it's adorable. They're so in love it's sickening. They're literal Morticia and Gomez variants
??? So what ur implying is that only the blood related people are batfamily? 😭 I love Damian, but the whole point of the Batfam was ‘found family with issues’, and just turning it into ‘Talia, Bruce and Damian’ is pretty boring and defeats the whole purpose of Batman having a family.
The family of Damian, Dick, Jason, Tim, Bruce, Cass, Duke, Stephanie and Barbara is complicated because not all of them see each other as family
(Steph and Barbara don’t see Bruce as a father figure, but Steph sees Damian, Tim, Jason, Cass and etc as her siblings. Dick and Damian have a semi-Father/son relationship which they refuse to acknowledge because Dick isn’t ready for that responsibility. Damian and Tim get into horrible fights with each other constantly, but Tim still refers to Damian as ‘his little brother’ and while Jason and Dick see each other as siblings, Jason and Damian DESPISE each other. Jason has tried to kill Tim before, but Tim and Jason are on good terms now. Barbara is Dicks ex/girlfriends, but has sister/mentor relationship with his sister Cass. Duke gets along best with Jason and is one of the few people Damian openly likes. Helena (Huntress) is Bruce and Selina’s daughter in another universe. Selina and Bruce have a cat and mouse situation going on, which never seems to end.)
Their family is messy and complicated and not everyone likes each other, but they’re family non-the less.
Turning that into ‘Talia, Bruce and Damian’ only is so stupid and boring, and removing amazing dynamics that the family include.
It’s fine if you ship ‘Bru-Talia’ but you don’t actually have to remove every single one of Bruce’s adopted kids, and said kids ex’s/bestfriend who are basically part of the family now. It makes BruTalia boring and makes everything else boring. It’s just an average-normal family then, which nobody really wants to read about.
(By the i mean people would rather read about they’re messy and, personally, more interesting dynamics)
(I don’t mean Gotham War tho)
(That’s just stupid)
Anyway, sorry for the ranting lmao, I just really got invested in writing this :D
Batfamily
NO
BATFAMILY
Why can’t we all just respect each others ships and favourite characters?
Like, as long as the ship isn’t pedoph*lia and the characters isn’t…H*tler or something, WHY do people feel the need to HATE on it?
Just because you don’t ship a ship, doesn’t mean it’s a bad ship! Just because it’s not YOUR ship, DOES NOT MEAN ITS A BAD SHIP.
Just because you don’t like a character, doesn’t mean it’s a bad character! Just because it’s not YOUR favourite character, DOES NOT MEAN ITS A HORRIBLE CHARACTER.
Stop being toxic. Let people enjoy themselves!