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I Can Still Recall Our Last Summer
I can still recall our last summerā¦
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More Posts from Ladystardust-ina-moonagedaydream
Ok but think about knowingly off putting little brother regulus and obliviously supportive older brother Sirius who still get along so Sirius excitedly introduces his wonderful brother to his friends and is just completely unaware of how regulus is purposefully freaking them out and much itās working, like
Regulus: ā¦ your animagus form is a stag right?
James: howā¦ how do you know that?
Regulus: I know a lot of things, is it a stag?
James: uh, yeah?
Regulus: cool. Have you shed your antlers yet?
James: ā¦ what š
Regulus: deer shed their antlers every year. Itās really gruesome, look *shows him a picture from a book* you should tell me how it feels when it happens.
James: š
-Later-
Sirius: isnāt he great? š
James, fidgeting with his head where his antlers are in his animagus form: yeahā¦ yeah heās somethingā¦
Sirius is singing a romantic song, but Remus only thinks about kissing him, bc he is a weak man and chained to his desires š„¹
Fandom can do a little gatekeeping. As a treat.
So I finally decided to archive-lock my fics on AO3 last night. Iāve been considering it since the AI scrape last year, but the tipping point was this whole lore.fm debacle, coupled with some thoughts Iāve been thinking regarding Fandom These Days in general and Fandom As A Community in particular. So I wanna explain why I waited so long, why I locked my stuff up now, and why Iāve come to the conclusion that Iām a-okay with making it harder for people to see my stories.
Lurkers really are great, tho
Iām a chronic lurker, and have been since I started hanging out on the internet as a teen in the 00s. These days itās just cuz I donāt feel a need to socialize very often, but back then it was because I was shy and knew I was socially awkward. Even if I made an account, Iād spend months lurking on message boards or forums or Livejournals, watching other people interact and getting a feel for that particular communityās culture and etiquette before I finally started interacting myself. And yāknow, that approach saved me a lot of embarrassment. Over the course of my lurking on any site, there was always some other person whoād clearly joined up five minutes after learning the place existed, barged in without a care for their behavior, and committed so many social faux pas that all the other users were immediately annoyed with them at best. I learned a lot observing those incidents. Lurk More is Rule 33 of the internet for very good reason.
Lurking isnāt bad or weird or creepy. Itās perfectly normal. I love lurking. Itās hard for me to not lurk - socializing takes a lot of energy out of me, even via text. (Heck it took 12 hours for me to write this post, I wish I was kidding--) Occasionally Iāll manage longer bouts of interaction - a few weeks posting here, almost a year chatting in a discord there - but Iām always gonna end up going radio silent for months at some point. I used to feel bad about it, but Iāve long since made peace with the fact that itās just the way my brain works. Iām a chronic lurker, and in the long term nothing is going to change that.
The thing with being a chronic lurker is that you have to accept that you are not actually seen as part of the community you are lurking in. Thatās not to say that lurkers are unimportant - lurkers actually are important, and they make up a large proportion of any online community - but itās simple cause and effect. You may think of it as āyour communityā, but if youāve never said a word, how is the community supposed to know you exist? If I lurked on someoneās LJ, and then that person suddenly friendslocked their blog, I knew that I had two choices: Either accept that I would never be able to read their posts again, or reach out to them and ask if I could be added to their friends list with the full understanding that I was a rando they might not decide to trust. I usually went with the first option, because my invisibility as a lurker was more important to me than talking to strangers on the internet.
Lurking is like sitting on a park bench, quietly people-watching and eavesdropping on the conversations other people are having around you. Youāre in the park, but youāre not actively participating in anything happening there. You can see and hear things that you become very interested in! But if you donāt introduce yourself and become part of the conversation, you wonāt be able to keep listening to it when those people walk away. When fandom migrated away from Livejournal, people moved to new platforms alongside their friends, but lurkers were often left behind. No one knew they existed, so they werenāt told where everyone else was going. To be seen as part of a fandom community, you need to submit to the mortifying ordeal of being known, etc. etc.
Thereās nothing wrong with lurking. There can actually be benefits to lurking, both for the lurkers and the communities they lurk in. Itās just another way to be in a fandom. But if that is how you exist in fandom--and remember, I say this as someone who often does exist that way in fandom--you need to remember that youāre on the outside looking in, and the curtains can always close.
Iāve always been super sympathetic to lurkers, because I am one. I know thereās a lot of people like me who just donāt socialize often. I know thereās plenty of reasons why someone might not make an account on the internet - maybe theyāre nervous, maybe theyāre young and their parents donāt allow them to, maybe theyāre in a bad situation where someone is monitoring their activity, maybe they can only access the internet from public computer terminals. Heck, Iāve never even logged into AO3 on my phone--if Iām away from my computer I just read whatās publicly available.Ā
I know I have people lurking on my fics. I know my fics probably mean a lot to someone I donāt even know exists. I know this because there are plenty of fics I love whose writers donāt know I exist.
I love my commenters personally; I love my lurkers as an abstract concept. I know theyāre there and I wish them well, and if they ever de-lurk I love them all the more.
So up until last year I never considered archive-locking my fic, because I get it. The AI scraping was upsetting, but I still hesitated because I was thinking of lurkers and guests and remembering what it felt like to be 15 and wondering if itād be worth letting a stranger on the internet know I existed and asking to be added to their friends list just so I could reread a funny post they made once.
But the internet has changed a lot since the 00s, and fandom has changed with it. Iāve read some things and been doing some thinking about fandom-as-community over the last few years, and reading through the lore.fm drama made me decide that itās time for me to set some boundaries.
I still love my lurkers, and I feel bad about leaving any guest commenters behind, especially if theyāre in a situation where they canāt make an account for some reason. But from here on out, even my lurkers are going to have to do the bare minimum to read my fics--make an AO3 account.
Should we gatekeep fandom?
Iāve seen a few people ask this question, usually rhetorically, sometimes as a joke, always with a bit of seriousness. And I thinkā¦yeah, maybe we should. Except wait, no, not like that--
A decade ago, when people talked about fandom gatekeeping and why it was bad to do, it intersected with a lot of other things, mainly feminism and classism. The prevalent image of fandom gatekeeping was, like, a man learning that a woman likes Star Wars and haughtily demanding, āOh, yeah? Well if youāre REALLY a fan, name ten EU novelsā to belittle and dismiss her, expecting that a āreal fanā would have the money and time to be familiar with the EU, and ignoring the fact that male movie-only fans were still considered fans. The thing being gatekept was the very definition of ābeing a fanā and peopleās right to describe themselves as one.
Thatās not what I mean when I say maybe fandom should gatekeep more. Anyone can call themselves a fan if they like something, thatās fine. But when it comes to the ability to enjoy the fanworks produced by the fandom communityā¦that might be something worth gatekeeping.
See, back in the 00s, it was perfectly common for people to justā¦not go on the internet. Surfing the web was a thing, but it was just, like, a fun pastime. Not everyone did it. It wasnāt until the rise of social media that going online became a thing everyone and their grandmother did every day. Back then, going on the internet was justā¦a hobby.
So one of the first gates online fandom ever had was the simple fact that the entire world wasnāt here yet.
The entire world is here now. That gate has been demolished.
And itās a lot easier to find us now. Even scattered across platforms, fandom is so centralized these days. It isnāt a network of dedicated webshrines and forums that you can only find via webrings anymore, itās right there on all the big social media sites. AO3 didnāt set out to be the main fanfic website, but thatās definitely what itās become. Itās easy for people to find us--and that includes people who donāt care about the community, and just want ācontent.ā
Transformative fandom doesnāt like it when people see our fanworks as ācontentā. āContentā is a pretty broad term, but when fandom uses it weāre usually referring to creative works that are churned out by content creators to be consumed by an audience as quickly as possible as often as possible so that the content creator can generate revenue. This not-so-new normal has caused a massive shift in how people who are new to fandom view fanworks--instead of seeing fic or art as something a fellow fan made and shared with you, they see fanworks as products to be consumed.
Transformative fandom has, in general, always been a gift economy. We put time and effort into creating fanworks that we share with our fellow fans for free. We do this so we donāt get sued, but fandom as a whole actually gets a lot out of the gift economy. Offer your community a story, and in return you can get comments, build friendships, or inspire other people to write things that you might want to read. Readers are given the gift of free stories to read and enjoy, and while lurking is fine, they have the choice to engage with the writer and other readers by leaving comments or making reclists to help build the community.
And look, donāt get me wrong. People have never engaged with fanfic as much as fan writers wish they would. There has always been āno one comments anymoreā wank. There have always been people who only comment to say āMORE!ā or otherwise demand or guilt trip writers into posting the next chapter. But fandom has always agreed that those commenters are rude and annoying, and as those commenters navigate fandom they have the chance to learn proper community etiquette.
However, now it seems that a lot of the people who are consuming fanworks arenāt actually in the community.Ā
I wonāt say āthey arenāt real fansā because thatās silly; thereās lots of ways to be a fan. But there seem to be a lot of fans now who have no interest in fandom as a community, or in adhering to community etiquette, or in respecting the gift economy. They consume our fics, but they donāt appreciate fan labor. They want our ācontentā, but they donāt respect our control over our creations.
And even worse--they see us as a resource. We share our work for free, as a gift, but all they see is an open-source content farm waiting to be tapped into. We shared it for free, so clearly they can do whatever they want with it. Why should we care if they feed our work into AI training datasets, or copy/paste our unfinished stories into ChatGPT to get an ending, or charge people for an unnecessary third-party AO3 app, or sell fanbindings on etsy for a profit without the authorās permission, or turn our stories into poor imitations of podfics to be posted on other platforms without giving us credit or asking our consent, while also using it to lure in people they can datascrape for their Forbes 30 Under 30 company?Ā
And sure, people have been doing shady things with other peopleās fanworks since forever. Art theft and reposting has always been a big problem. Fanfic is harder to flat-out repost, but Iāve heard of unauthorized fic translations getting posted without crediting the original author. Once inā¦I think the 2010s? I read a post by a woman who had gone to some sort of local bookselling event, only to find that the man selling āhisā novel had actually self-published her fanfic. (Wish I could find that one again, I donāt even remember where I read it.)
But aside from that third example, the thing isā¦as awful as fanart/writing theft is, back in the day, the main thing a thief would gain from it was clout. Clout that should rightfully go to the creators who gifted their work in the first place, yeah, but still. Just clout. People will do a lot of hurtful things for clout, but fandom clout means nothing outside of fandom. Fandom clout is not enough to incentivize the sort of wide-scale pillaging weāre seeing from community outsiders today.
Money, on the other handā¦ Well, fandomās just a giant, untapped content farm, isnāt it? Think of how much revenue all that content could generate.
Lurkers are a normal and even beneficial part of any online community. Maybe one day theyāll de-lurk and easily slide into place beside their fellow fans because they already know the etiquette. Maybe theyāre active in another community, and they can spread information from the community they lurk in to the community theyāre active in. At the very least, they silently observe, and even if theyāre not active community members, they understand the community.
Fans who see fanworks as ācontentā donāt belong in the same category as lurkers. Theyāre tourists.Ā
While reading through the initial Reddit thread on the lore.fm situation, I found this comment:
[ID: Reddit User Cabbitowo says: ... So in anime fandoms we have a word called tourist and essentially it means a fan of a few anime and doesn't care about anime tropes and actively criticizes them. This is kind of how fandoms on tiktok feel. They're touring fanfics and fanart and actively criticizes tropes that have been in the fandom since the 60s. They want to be in a fandom but they don't want to engage in fandomĀ
OP totallymandy responds: Just entered back into Reddit after a long day to see this most recent reply. And as a fellow anime fan this making me laugh so much since itās true! But it sorta hurts too when the reality sets in. Modern fandom is so entitled and bratty and youād think itās the minors only but thatās not even true, my age-mates and older seem to be like that. They want to eat their cake and complain all whilst bringing nothing to the potluckā¦ :/ END ID]
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āTouristā is an apt name for this sort of fan. They donāt want to be part of our community, and they donāt have to be in order to come into our spaces and consume our work. Even if they donāt steal our work themselves, they feel so entitled to it that theyāre fine with ignoring our wishes and letting other people take it to make AI āpodficsā for them to listen to (there are a lot of comments on lore.fmās shutdown announcement video from people telling them to just ignore the writers and do it anyway). Theyāll use AI to generate an ending to an unfinished fic because they donāt care about seeing āthe ending this writer would have given to the story they were tellingā, they just want āan endingā. For these tourist fans, the ends justify the means, and their end goal is content for them to consume, with no care for the community that created it for them in the first place.
I donāt think this is confined to a specific age group. This isnāt ā13-year-olds on Wattpadā or āZoomers on TikTokā or whatever pointless generation war weāre in now. This is coming from people who are new to fandom, whose main experience with creative works on the internet is this new content culture and who donāt understand fandom as a community. That description can be true of someone from any age group.
Itās so easy to find fandom these days. It is, in fact, too easy. Newcomers face no hurdles or challenges that would encourage them to lurk and observe a bit before engaging, and itās easy for people who would otherwise move on and leave us alone to start making trouble. From tourist fans to content entrepreneurs to random people who just want to gawk, itās so easy for people who donāt care about the fandom community to reap all of its fruits.Ā
So when I say maybe fandom should start gatekeeping a bit, Iām referring to the fact that we barely even have a gate anymore. Everyone is on the internet now; the entire world can find us, and they donāt need to bother learning community etiquette when they do. Before, we were protected by the fact that fandom was considered weird and most people didnāt look at it twice. Now, fandom is pretty mainstream. People who never wouldāve bothered with it before are now comfortable strolling in like they own the place. They have no regard for the fandom community, they donāt understand it, and they donāt want to. They want to treat it just like the rest of the content they consume online.
And then theyāre surprised when those of us who understand fandom culture get upset. Fanworks have existed far longer than the algorithmic internetās content. Fanworks existed long before the internet. Weāve lived like this for ages and we like it.
So if someone canāt be bothered to respect fandom as a community, I donāt see why I should give them easy access to my fics.
Think of it like a garden gate
When I interact with commenters on my fic, I have this sense of hospitality.
The comment section is my front porch. The fic is my garden. I created my garden because I really wanted to, and Iām proud of it, and Iām happy to share it with other people.Ā
Lots of people enjoy looking at my garden. Many walk through without saying anything. Some stop to leave kudos. Some recommend my garden to their friends. And some people take the time to stop by my front porch and let me know what a beautiful garden it is and how much theyāve enjoyed it.Ā
Any fic writer can tell you that getting comments is an incredible feeling. I always try to answer all my comments. I donāt always manage it, but my ficsā comment sections are the one place that I manage to consistently socialize in fandom. When I respond to a comment, it feels like Iām pouring out a glass of lemonade to share with this lovely commenter on my front porch, a thank you for their thank you. We take a moment to admire my garden together, and then I see them out. The next time they drop by, I recognize them and am happy to pour another glass of lemonade.
My garden has always been open and easy to access. No fences, no walls. You just have to know where to find it. Fandom in general was once protected by its own obscurity, an out-of-the-way town that showed up on maps but was usually ignored.
But now thereās a highway that makes it easy to get to, and we have all these out-of-towner tourists coming in to gawk and steal our lawn ornaments and wonder if they can use the place to make themselves some money.
I donāt care to have those types trampling over my garden and eating all my vegetables and digging up my flowers to repot and sell, so Iāve put up a wall. It has a gate that visitors can get through if they just take the time to open it.
Admittedly, itās a small obstacle. But when I share my fics, I share them as a gift with my fellow fans, the ones who understand that fandom is a community, even if theyāre lurkers. As for tourist fans and entrepreneurs who see fic as content, who have no qualms ignoring the writerās wishes, who refuse to respect or understand the fandom communityā¦well, theyāre not the people I mean to share my fic with, so I have no issues locking them out. If they want access to my stories, theyāll have to do the bare minimum to become a community member and join the AO3 invite queue.
And yāknow, Iāve said a lot about fandom and community here, and I just want to say, I hope itās not intimidating. When I was younger, talk about The Fandom Community made me feel insecure, and I didnāt think Iād ever manage to be active enough in fandom spaces to be counted as A Member Of The Community. But you donāt have to be a social butterfly to participate in fandom. Iāll always and forever be a chronic lurker, I reblog more than I post, I rarely manage to comment on fic, and I go radio silent for months at a time--but I write and post fanfiction. Thatās my contribution.
Do you write, draw, vid, gif, or otherwise create? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you leave comments? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you curate reclists? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you maintain a fandom blog or fuckyeah blog? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you provide a space for other fans to convene in? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you regularly send asks (off anon so people know who you are)? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you have fandom friends who you interact with? Congrats, you're a community member.
Thereās lots of ways to be a fan. Just make sure to respect and appreciate your fellow fans and the work they put in for you to enjoy and the gift economy fandom culture that keeps this community going.
Sirius: Whatās your birth stone?
Remus: Rock bottom.
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c: @ramen-writes
james: can we keep them
*distant roaring*
regulus: sure if you survive their mother