PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT SERIES: 8th House And Psychosis. Trigger: Mental Health

PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT SERIES: 8th house and psychosis. Trigger: mental health

This is my understanding of "psychosis" that happens to 8th house natives. I have venus in 8th house & I experienced psychosis. Carl Jung had sun in 8th house, his psychosis is well known. Friedrich Nietzsche was scorpio rising with rahu and moon in 1st house & sun in 12th house in libra. More on this later but today let us discuss psychosis. From my understanding, it is triggered by two things: planet and time period of the house ruler. Venus in 8th psychosis is triggered by romantic relationship. Sun in 8th house by father? Moon in 8th house by mother? My understanding on this is not clear but I have definitely experienced the relationship and mom connection (venus + moon in 8th house). Next comes, time period of 8th house ruler. My 8th house is ruled by Gemini and my psychosis was triggered in mercury antardasha because it probably activated the 8th house. Someone with pisces ruling 8th house will be activated in Jupiter mahadasha or antardasha etc.

What exactly happens during psychosis? Since 8th house is to do with intense emotions, these natives go back and forth highs and lows to the extreme levels throughout the day. Psychosis occurs when they are overwhelmed by the unconscious content and have a weak & insecure ego. It happens either in early youth years or when they have not dealt with a challenge before in life or unprecedented misfortune. For eg, if venus in 8th house is in relationship, she will be her usual rollercoaster emotional ride. 8th house will bring a not suitable person to life. Native is her usual intense self but the romantic lover causes many emotional and mental issues by lying, manipulation, inconsistent behavior etc. This gradually drives the native to emotional distress. There comes a flood of negative emotions in them like extreme anxiety, fear and panic. They start obsessing about the whole thing to the point of mental breakdown. Since they are young, naive, early age or inexperienced, this emotional distress is too mentally and physically draining to live in. It gets harder and harder to live life in a hyper emotional state every day. This is when native starts to isolate herself.

Then occurs psychotic break. It is when the native starts to perceive reality differently and lives in delusions. For eg, delusion like I am pregnant or I am being stalked or somebody is trying to hurt me, seeing mental images of people hurting them and ridiculing them. The last one happened to me. This is very frightening and confusing to native. She does not know how to explain the strange things happening to her.

Then happens spiritual awakening. Something in her pulls her to occult and related things or psychology or therapy or hospital or anything else as per life path. Next step is the reordering of her psychic world which blends delusion and reality. Which means she has to face the trauma from her past and heal herself. Synchronicities begin to happen. Unlearn the trauma and relearn new things. 8th housers are called BRAVE SURVIVORS for this reason.

Depression and psychosis wipe her memory clean. Time to integrate the parts of herself now coming to consciousness. What parts? Shadow, animus, parts of herself she did not know she was, changing the old habits, changing the hobbies, career etc. These things are very crucial to mental development. We often hear "eh school sucks, I hate democracy, why do we have to do job.." but try living in jungle doing nothing & you will realize how system, rituals, patterns, routine, order are very important psychological needs. They are not just manmade institutions but strong psychological impulses.

Time to fix what is broken. Make peace with your childhood trauma. Acknowledge everything you hate in yourself and give it time (months, years) to integrate and heal. Read more about it in books because I cannot go into detail here.

Also, strengthen your ego. Intense women lack strong ego. Ego means self identity. Assertiveness. Stand up for yourself and your rights. Ego means to achieve or try to achieve your highest potential. There is no other way to live a fulfilling life. Ego means to putting yourself first, not being doormat and clingy.

This psychosis is life changing, catastrophic, sudden, unpredictable, similar to death and rebirth. It is the shedding of previous reality and creation of a new reality. It is why 8th housers say "I have lived so many lives in one lifetime."

Once they have overcome this psychosis, their ego is better able to handle next bouts of intense negative emotions and handle them positively with physical, intellectual, mental efforts. They also attract better quality of people in their lives because people can sense their maturity and character. 8th house still brings sudden twists and turns but they are able to handle that.

I personally went from browsing nonsense porn to turning pages of philosophy books. It is total life changing self development work. Painful but very rewarding.

When astrology brings people together. So many of us with similar life themes even though born in different times and places.

Life of 8th House Placements

TW: sexual assault

Ever since they are born, they have been faced with extreme. Oftentimes too, the situation that lead to their birth is already near death and due to people's mistreatment. For ex, the baby is infected with virus but the doctor refuse to give serious treatment for that which result in the baby almost born die or any birth defect that affect the baby

As the 8th house is also associated with illness, a lot of times 8th house natives already infected with diseases since they are still in their mom's womb

They have been exposed with sexual activities since beginning. Unfortunately most of the times, it's in dark way which subconsciously affect the 8th house natives' early interest in sex

A lot of children with these 8th house placements have performed early sexual activity or behaviors which oftentimes cause confusion to their parents since such behavior may be seen as abnormal and esp to parents who come from conservative family or not well informed ones. Which is again unforturnatelty is the theme of 8th house

Their experiences of sin and hiding things is quite interesting and personal as most of them remember the first time they are not doing right thing and hide it from their parents. For ex, the first time they are lying

Their life theme was so dominant with 8th house theme esp during their childhood. 8th house energy is very interesting. It will always confront natives' with complex situations until the native discover that

Which is why occult and spiritual instruments like astrology, tarot, and else actually is an outlet for 8th house natives. In some ways, it distribute the chaotic, complex, and unknown energy of 8th house to occult and spiritual instruments and discovery

A lot of times, the native's life become more manageable and prevented from unforeseen miseries by using such instruments. Their learning on such instruments really decrease the negative energy of 8th house theme

Since many of their life events come in unexpected way esp bad way (this is especially true for Uranus in 8th house), they learn about predictive tool like astrology and tarot to make them be able to discover what will happen in days, months, years later. All of that is used as an attempt to control the unknown events (8th house as something that's beyond control)

8th house has a really strong association with gaining after big loss. Oftentimes the gain is as big as loss. Which is why many of these natives have a start of successful career after their beloved one passed. This is also why it's associated with inheritance. It's different with 2nd house gain which is gain without misery. But with 8th house, sacrifices and misery always follow. Even with that too, sometimes the gain is not worth compared to misery

8th house gain though is a really speedy one. One can start out of nothingness and then after they get through the misery, their career can be rocketing and put them in spotlight

This gain though only can come when they get over the grief period. Unfortunately grief period follow these natives. Intensity of this energy tho depending on how Plutonic the natives are. If other planets have more dominant energy, the effect won't be that bad

Permanent is something that's so tied with 8th house natives. Permanent change in themselves after entering a relationship, after the death of friend, etc. Which is why entering 8th house/Plutonic synastry is double destructive energy for 8th house natives and can make themselves even become more destructive

8th house natives usually aren't dark by default. It's their circumstances that make them like that. Early exposure of bad sides of the world darken 8th house natives

What exactly does the 8th house venus look like?

By now, we are very aware of what venus in 8th house means and that it brings a lot of transformations in the lives of the natives. I will share my personal breakdown of how exactly i transformed with this placement and hope it connects with someone:

Firstly, venus in 8th house makes emotional life intense. I mean INTENSE. Crazy INTENSE. Obsessive. Dedication. Emotional overflow. And secretive. Secretive love life. Falling in "love" overnight, at first sight. Impulsive.

Venus is the significator of romance and love life. It is placed in the house of death and rebirth. What do you expect? Each relationship brings death - rebirth of the native.

It starts with the intense emotional life of the native. Comes a destined romantic interest. Native falls in infatuation. Intense obsession begins. Ohh-she is drowning in her own psychic ocean and it is red. Colour red. The colour of love and sacrifice. Of soul itself.

Rumination. Opening up about personal traumas. Sharing secrets with each other. Venus in 8th house lady gives her heart and soul to the man. She is not for the weak hearted. She is not for the casual affairs. She is the one to shake your soul, existence and make you question reality itself. Her love is passionate and dreamy. She is hard to forget because she dumps her emotions, soul and energy into you.

She is obsessed with the mental image of the love interest. Not the real man but his mental image. This is the twist. She thinks that the romantic interest is everything she has ever wanted. She thinks he is perfect. But really, she is just so emotional that logic is out of the window.

Romantic interest has psychic manipulative tendencies. It is almost certain that the lover is manipulative and controlling. Sometime in the relationship, the illusion breaks. As per the hallmark of 8th house = sudden, SHOCKING revelation! This man is not who she thought he was. 8th house is the house of taboo as well; the man turns out to be someone with a dirty character. Run, run, run.

The break up is sudden. Intense emotional breakdown. Crying herself to sleep. There starts a depression. Deep depression for god knows how long. Her trust is broken. Trust means everything to her. Trauma bond. The mental image shatters.

With depression comes mental breakdown. Ruminating about the whole relationship. What, how, why, where, when? Obsessively asking questions. This depression lasts for months and wipes away the memory.

Native is pulled into astrology, tarot and psychology to fix herself. She knows deep down that something is broken in her. She wants to fix what is broken. It is her destiny. After all, 8th house is also about healing the trauma.

Romantic obsession turns into spiritual pursuit. Depression wipes out the memories of the past self. "i dont remember who i was before" phase. Depending upon the rest of the chart, she starts building herself from ground up. A new person. A new self. New looks. New career. New way of life. New friends.

Long period of isolation - she loses touch with the external world. She sheds her skin in isolation - how can you born anew if you are not reduced to ashes first? She learns everything from rock bottom. Emotional control. Social skills. Relationship skills. Spirituality. Occult skills, definite interest in psychology, when she learns new information, skills, knowledge = she automatically rewires her system. These natives glow up. Generic prediction is = she becomes sophisticated. Dresed up fancy lady with shiny pearl necklace, femme fatale aesthetic, red lips and very ladylike.

Somedays she recalls her old self. The messed up, intense, manic pixie dream girl, broken she was. Now transformed into a new person. So, this is what 8th house transformation looks like. It is not just "magic"; it is actual hard work.

Some heartfelt advice for 8th venus ladies:

I can empathize with the emotional struggles of this placement. It is almost as if the society we are born in somehow runs on conventions that are pre existing. Trying to live by values, high standards, principles, morals, ethics, virtues is looked down upon, ridiculed, called as noob. It is almost like the society, media, politics rewards and celebrates being crooked, unethical, disorganized. I think it is projection of collective shadows and rejection of what we dislike in ourselves onto others who are not similar to us. Irony is that on a superficial level, all of us try to do virtue signalling and portray a highly moral persona of ourselves but we dont like to do the hard work of actully living according to our standards.

Venus in 8th house lady comes across such situations in life where she realizes how messed up the social systems are. How people are fake, pretentious, hypocrite and merely holding an image of goodness but dont actually live like that. She can see through lies, deception and fakery - and she hates that. This lady then does shadow work - it is usually after a major heartbreak that she figures out her emotional issues. Thereby she learns to manage her emotions to raise herself from the puddle of bad social circles. This is why it is also called the placement of rebirth or emerging like a lotus from the mud.

Shadow work is dirty and when the mud clears, it is time to rise above the social conventions and expectations. It is time to become what we call a High Value Woman. A high value woman lives by her values and standards. She is sophisticated, soft spoken, ladylike. Dont mistake high value woman for misogyny or stereotype. But it is character development. You can call it whatever you want but it is about emotional strength and realizing her inner will. It is about self actualization and reaching her highest potential.

Some traits of a high value woman are: she knows her worth, values, her time is not free for everyone, does not engage with toxic people, has emotional control, is classy, does not put down other women to look good, does not need male validation to feel desirable, is Stoic, has a career, has some pursuit in life, well read, thoughtful speaker, lives by morals and principles. In relationship, she does not appear clingy, has an identity of her own, does not chase the man, lets the man be the provider, does not play mind games, does not cheat, emotionally connected and invested in her partner. Some personal values are: empathy, kindness, classy, lives with dignity, has self respect, has boundaries for toxic people, etc. Moreover, she constantly improves her own darkness and becomes a little better person everyday.

Some of these traits might not feel good to those who dont have venus 8th house but it is really essential for these ladies because of their life themes. I dont even have to share this, just meet any 8th house venus lady in the random place and she will tell you how much character development she has gone through. No matter the nation, the state, the race, the language, anyone with 8th house venus really goes through self transformation in secrecy. It is the hallmark of this placement.

The sooner you transform the better the result. You can then attract a fellow High value man and live a drama free satisfying emotionally fulfilling private relationship. Emotional control is as important to these ladies as is brakes in a car. Since your life theme is very fated, you have psychic gifts and things happen suddenly in your life, better to drive your car smoothly to make the twists and turns easier. Dont race your car, drive in limits. Better safe than sorry.

Venus in 8th house: what does the love interest do to you?

If you have this placement, you must have been with some manipulative, controlling man who was like wolf in the face of sheep. He seemed so decent and perfect from the outside but it was all just a mask to hide the real personality and traits. This "revelation and dark secret coming to light" is the turning point in your life. You begin to really dive deep into your inner world and start healing yourself of intergenerational trauma and others.

What I find really interesting was that although the romantic interest was a douchebag, he introduced me to the world of psychology. I did not know anything about psychoanalysis before. He said he would psychoanalyze me and that is how I learned what was what. I did not even know what psychology meant before him. His knowledge of psychology was just shallow and i had to read things on my own to actually understand everything. Similarly, he told me about philosophy. Again, his knowledge of philosophy was infantile. He told me everything wrong about Nietzsche and others. He was just like someone who read things on reddit and social media, and made it his whole personality to manipulate and entice naive and unaware girls like myself.

Although I really hate him in hindsight, but it was this turning point that I actually really started exploring psychology and philosophy. Both of these subjects are connected to 8th house, so that is a really meaningful coincidence. Venus in 8th house = romantic friend activates your interest in 8th house subjects? Seems valid.

By the way, let's not underestimate the role of other houses and placements in love life. 5th house, 7th house are really crucial to learn too.

SOME ASTRO MISTAKES I HAVE MADE SO FAR WHILE LEARNING THINGS:

Trying to use astrology to predict longetivity and death of someone. This is really controversial and hard to predict. Perhaps someone with gifted intuition can predict something like this but using just astrology is not a good idea. Astrology cannot tell how long someone will live or when they will die. For eg, contrary to popular belief that saturn in 8th house gives very long life, i have seen many natives passing in their middle ages. Similarly, all inner planets in 8th house have reputation of giving long lives but this is not the case. Sigmund Freud with moon in 8th house taurus died at 83 while Steve Jobs with moon in 8th house pisces died at 56. It was truly my mistake to use astrology for such taboo thing and to try to become God. In Vimshottari dasha chart, a lot of times such mahadasha, antardasha align that may generate paranoia that the native may pass away in that time period but no it doesnt work like that in every time period. In hindsight, when the native has already passed, perhaps it is possible to see in which time period they did pass and attribute that to it but it is risk of cognitive bias and there is no mental work involved. So, i think that it is very hard if not impossible to predict death from astrology. Anyway astrology must not be used for such sadistic purposes. Make the most out of each day you have. No person born will go back alive. One famous astrologer in India Bejan Daruwala passed away in corona period when he himself was doing predictions on corona. How ironic! I have seen astrologers predicting that such person will be alive for next 5 years and it is just a bad time period currently, but the native passed away within one month only. This kind of thing breaks my faith in astro and also makes the whole thing rather scary. I promised myself not to do something like this again in my astro studies. I refrain from doing death predictions.

Trying to read zodiac sign predictions to predict what will hapoen in coming month, year. This was when i was new to astro. I was born in June so my zodiac is Gemini. I used to read Gemini predictions for the coming month and year on random astro websites and blindly trusted it too. I remember preparing for exam and reading prediction that coming month will be good for students blah blah.. guess what? I failed that exam. This was rather stupid thing to do and i totally deserved what i got. 12 zodiac signs is not real astrology. Real astrology is the birth chart, time period of planets, perhaps tarot is also linked to it. But pop astrology and predictions are pure gibberish and commercial money making business. If you want to know how your coming week or month or year will be, take out your birth chart, use a reputed website to create vimshottari dasha chart, take out tarot and use your own energy and mind to come up with possible predictions. It also helps to keep a journal of each planetary time period and what happened during that time in your life so that in future you can use that journal to come up with probably future telling for your personal life path. Trying to predict fortune and success from astro alone is again a gamble. You have to trust in your skills and knowledge and practice. Dont repeat the mistake i did of blindly relying on astro to know my exam result.

Zodiac sign compatibility. This is funny but i used to see the birthday of my crush and match his zodiac sign with mine, read random gibberish on websites and thought "nah, we are not compatible, or nah i dont like this zodiac sign, or nah this zodiac sign is too superficial for me.." Couple astrology is only done with birth charts and nothing else. It takes mental effort to match compatibility. On top of that, friendship, values, personalities and willingness to be in relationship are all factors that are not within your control. You can also not tell when someone is being deceptive, lying, faking until you learn people skills and to read personalities. There is just no shortcuts in relationships.

Consuming a lot of youtube content to know astrology. Astrology has basic foundation that you can read in book and some trustworthy websites. There is nothing else to know. Watching random videos for short term gratification and sembalance that i am learning something or being productive is just not it. Astrology is personal tool. Everybody will have different language to say the same thing. Once you have read the basics, have trust in it and do not change your foundation just because someone else said so.

Astrology should not be put on a pedestal. Astrology is valid and gives answers to questions of life but it is just that - a tool, a subject, a field of knowledge. Dont make it your whole life. Dont worship it. Dont make it your whole personality. Dont use it too much that you lose your sanity. Life is meant to live not to figure out. The more you figure out, the more you will see how much is unknown and yet to be explored. You dont have enough years in your life to explore everything that is unconscious.

The only person you need to look up to is yourself. If you cannot tell the answers, i doubt anyone else can. I use to spend a lot of time watching oracle live streams, using random websites of psychics. Use your judgment to discern between money making business and genuine knowledge. Occult world is not devoid of sociopaths who simply want to make money at someone else's expense and being the nature of occult so abstract, it is easy to exploit people in terms of relationship issues, career issues, mental health issues, health issues. We cannot even blame the victim because in that vulnerable time period they are looking at all possible options to fix their problems. We learn from our mistakes only.