Venus In 8th House: What Does The Love Interest Do To You?

Venus in 8th house: what does the love interest do to you?

If you have this placement, you must have been with some manipulative, controlling man who was like wolf in the face of sheep. He seemed so decent and perfect from the outside but it was all just a mask to hide the real personality and traits. This "revelation and dark secret coming to light" is the turning point in your life. You begin to really dive deep into your inner world and start healing yourself of intergenerational trauma and others.

What I find really interesting was that although the romantic interest was a douchebag, he introduced me to the world of psychology. I did not know anything about psychoanalysis before. He said he would psychoanalyze me and that is how I learned what was what. I did not even know what psychology meant before him. His knowledge of psychology was just shallow and i had to read things on my own to actually understand everything. Similarly, he told me about philosophy. Again, his knowledge of philosophy was infantile. He told me everything wrong about Nietzsche and others. He was just like someone who read things on reddit and social media, and made it his whole personality to manipulate and entice naive and unaware girls like myself.

Although I really hate him in hindsight, but it was this turning point that I actually really started exploring psychology and philosophy. Both of these subjects are connected to 8th house, so that is a really meaningful coincidence. Venus in 8th house = romantic friend activates your interest in 8th house subjects? Seems valid.

By the way, let's not underestimate the role of other houses and placements in love life. 5th house, 7th house are really crucial to learn too.

Why as an 8th house native I no longer believe that "the world is a wonderful place".

Having moon and venus in 8th house and being Scorpio ascendant, I have a crazy emotional world. Extreme sensitivity to tone, words, behaviour; dread betrayal, deception and pretentious behaviour and my own obsessions and ruminations that are that of Borderline Personality Disorder.

8th house not just brings extreme emotions but also extreme, sudden, unexpected, out of nowhere, "what just happened" type of twists and turns to life. When I say extreme, I mean my parent dealing with life threatening disease type of extreme. I don't remember ever having a smooth year in life; every single year of my life so far has been bearer of life changing transformations. Sudden downfall and sudden improvement, just like that.

Me being scientific and atheistic had a love-hate relationship with occult. I was embarrassed to admit that I began exploring astrology as a child. Being judged and called superstitious, backward, uneducated, not modern -- I refrained from using occult to research my life issues but secretly had a fascination and strong attraction to occult subjects naturally. For a long time, I kept doubting myself why would I believe in astrology? And dismissing myself by saying "it is just coincidence, it is just science, there is no mystical meaning involved" and fear of being ridiculed and memified by people, I repressed my occultist desires.

Over the last 4 years, life showed many revelations to me. First, my perception of the world was distorted. I was damn emotional and naive. I was surrounded by narcissists and sociopaths, and oh - I was a people pleaser! It is different than movies. In movies we clearly know who is the protagonist and who is the villain but in real life the evil villains pretend to be heroes. It felt so unfair and unjust. When I could no longer change the outer situations, I was compelled to change my inner life. The only path left to me was to do my own shadow work and to do self realization.

I recall a movie "In this corner of the world" in which Suzu deals with many misfortunes in the event of war and bomb attacks in Japan. She loses her brother, her right hand, her niece, houses around them are shattered, they take shelter underground to protect from bombs, there was shortage of food groceries, they were always afraid of bomb raids and warnings, always afraid of next attack, trying to help those wounded, trying to keep shelter from problems - buckets of water to relinquish the fires, tired and exhausted and frustrated by problems they did not choose but are forced upon them by fate. Her parents die eventually and sister is sick from side effects of bomb. When everything is chaotic, people console themselves by looking at the bright side of life in any way possible. "I am glad... things are not as bad", say people around her. Suzu says to herself  "I don't know what I should be glad about." Suzu goes from a smiling, happy-go-lucky girl who tries to make the best out of a bad situation, to a stone-faced, emotional wreck who can no longer find happiness in life. In the end, she finds "acceptance". Just acceptance of whatever happened. Made peace with her past.

Reference: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TearJerker/InThisCornerOfTheWorld

What exactly does the 8th house venus look like?

By now, we are very aware of what venus in 8th house means and that it brings a lot of transformations in the lives of the natives. I will share my personal breakdown of how exactly i transformed with this placement and hope it connects with someone:

Firstly, venus in 8th house makes emotional life intense. I mean INTENSE. Crazy INTENSE. Obsessive. Dedication. Emotional overflow. And secretive. Secretive love life. Falling in "love" overnight, at first sight. Impulsive.

Venus is the significator of romance and love life. It is placed in the house of death and rebirth. What do you expect? Each relationship brings death - rebirth of the native.

It starts with the intense emotional life of the native. Comes a destined romantic interest. Native falls in infatuation. Intense obsession begins. Ohh-she is drowning in her own psychic ocean and it is red. Colour red. The colour of love and sacrifice. Of soul itself.

Rumination. Opening up about personal traumas. Sharing secrets with each other. Venus in 8th house lady gives her heart and soul to the man. She is not for the weak hearted. She is not for the casual affairs. She is the one to shake your soul, existence and make you question reality itself. Her love is passionate and dreamy. She is hard to forget because she dumps her emotions, soul and energy into you.

She is obsessed with the mental image of the love interest. Not the real man but his mental image. This is the twist. She thinks that the romantic interest is everything she has ever wanted. She thinks he is perfect. But really, she is just so emotional that logic is out of the window.

Romantic interest has psychic manipulative tendencies. It is almost certain that the lover is manipulative and controlling. Sometime in the relationship, the illusion breaks. As per the hallmark of 8th house = sudden, SHOCKING revelation! This man is not who she thought he was. 8th house is the house of taboo as well; the man turns out to be someone with a dirty character. Run, run, run.

The break up is sudden. Intense emotional breakdown. Crying herself to sleep. There starts a depression. Deep depression for god knows how long. Her trust is broken. Trust means everything to her. Trauma bond. The mental image shatters.

With depression comes mental breakdown. Ruminating about the whole relationship. What, how, why, where, when? Obsessively asking questions. This depression lasts for months and wipes away the memory.

Native is pulled into astrology, tarot and psychology to fix herself. She knows deep down that something is broken in her. She wants to fix what is broken. It is her destiny. After all, 8th house is also about healing the trauma.

Romantic obsession turns into spiritual pursuit. Depression wipes out the memories of the past self. "i dont remember who i was before" phase. Depending upon the rest of the chart, she starts building herself from ground up. A new person. A new self. New looks. New career. New way of life. New friends.

Long period of isolation - she loses touch with the external world. She sheds her skin in isolation - how can you born anew if you are not reduced to ashes first? She learns everything from rock bottom. Emotional control. Social skills. Relationship skills. Spirituality. Occult skills, definite interest in psychology, when she learns new information, skills, knowledge = she automatically rewires her system. These natives glow up. Generic prediction is = she becomes sophisticated. Dresed up fancy lady with shiny pearl necklace, femme fatale aesthetic, red lips and very ladylike.

Somedays she recalls her old self. The messed up, intense, manic pixie dream girl, broken she was. Now transformed into a new person. So, this is what 8th house transformation looks like. It is not just "magic"; it is actual hard work.

PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT SERIES: 8th house and psychosis. Trigger: mental health

This is my understanding of "psychosis" that happens to 8th house natives. I have venus in 8th house & I experienced psychosis. Carl Jung had sun in 8th house, his psychosis is well known. Friedrich Nietzsche was scorpio rising with rahu and moon in 1st house & sun in 12th house in libra. More on this later but today let us discuss psychosis. From my understanding, it is triggered by two things: planet and time period of the house ruler. Venus in 8th psychosis is triggered by romantic relationship. Sun in 8th house by father? Moon in 8th house by mother? My understanding on this is not clear but I have definitely experienced the relationship and mom connection (venus + moon in 8th house). Next comes, time period of 8th house ruler. My 8th house is ruled by Gemini and my psychosis was triggered in mercury antardasha because it probably activated the 8th house. Someone with pisces ruling 8th house will be activated in Jupiter mahadasha or antardasha etc.

What exactly happens during psychosis? Since 8th house is to do with intense emotions, these natives go back and forth highs and lows to the extreme levels throughout the day. Psychosis occurs when they are overwhelmed by the unconscious content and have a weak & insecure ego. It happens either in early youth years or when they have not dealt with a challenge before in life or unprecedented misfortune. For eg, if venus in 8th house is in relationship, she will be her usual rollercoaster emotional ride. 8th house will bring a not suitable person to life. Native is her usual intense self but the romantic lover causes many emotional and mental issues by lying, manipulation, inconsistent behavior etc. This gradually drives the native to emotional distress. There comes a flood of negative emotions in them like extreme anxiety, fear and panic. They start obsessing about the whole thing to the point of mental breakdown. Since they are young, naive, early age or inexperienced, this emotional distress is too mentally and physically draining to live in. It gets harder and harder to live life in a hyper emotional state every day. This is when native starts to isolate herself.

Then occurs psychotic break. It is when the native starts to perceive reality differently and lives in delusions. For eg, delusion like I am pregnant or I am being stalked or somebody is trying to hurt me, seeing mental images of people hurting them and ridiculing them. The last one happened to me. This is very frightening and confusing to native. She does not know how to explain the strange things happening to her.

Then happens spiritual awakening. Something in her pulls her to occult and related things or psychology or therapy or hospital or anything else as per life path. Next step is the reordering of her psychic world which blends delusion and reality. Which means she has to face the trauma from her past and heal herself. Synchronicities begin to happen. Unlearn the trauma and relearn new things. 8th housers are called BRAVE SURVIVORS for this reason.

Depression and psychosis wipe her memory clean. Time to integrate the parts of herself now coming to consciousness. What parts? Shadow, animus, parts of herself she did not know she was, changing the old habits, changing the hobbies, career etc. These things are very crucial to mental development. We often hear "eh school sucks, I hate democracy, why do we have to do job.." but try living in jungle doing nothing & you will realize how system, rituals, patterns, routine, order are very important psychological needs. They are not just manmade institutions but strong psychological impulses.

Time to fix what is broken. Make peace with your childhood trauma. Acknowledge everything you hate in yourself and give it time (months, years) to integrate and heal. Read more about it in books because I cannot go into detail here.

Also, strengthen your ego. Intense women lack strong ego. Ego means self identity. Assertiveness. Stand up for yourself and your rights. Ego means to achieve or try to achieve your highest potential. There is no other way to live a fulfilling life. Ego means to putting yourself first, not being doormat and clingy.

This psychosis is life changing, catastrophic, sudden, unpredictable, similar to death and rebirth. It is the shedding of previous reality and creation of a new reality. It is why 8th housers say "I have lived so many lives in one lifetime."

Once they have overcome this psychosis, their ego is better able to handle next bouts of intense negative emotions and handle them positively with physical, intellectual, mental efforts. They also attract better quality of people in their lives because people can sense their maturity and character. 8th house still brings sudden twists and turns but they are able to handle that.

I personally went from browsing nonsense porn to turning pages of philosophy books. It is total life changing self development work. Painful but very rewarding.

Astro observations about Taurus ascendant/ 2nd house/ Taurus sun/moon/venus/mercury placements:

Good life, comfort, indulgence, security, stability, traditionalist, low risk taking, Taurus can be a solid provider. Money is important to them. In my previous post, I mentioned how Aries stress on self importance, while Taurus stress on material security.

Taurus like the good things in life, the good as in materialistic things, sophisticated clothing, shiny jewelry, new accessories. The home decor is aesthetics and they actually pay a lot of attention to these beauty details.

Fond of giving nice gifts, fond of making rich connections, fond of walking on the middle ground. Taurus is neither too adventurous nor too outgoing. Can be a basic bitch, but who said that's bad? Life is not a competition for social likes.

Taurus men like feminine things in their women or notice femininity a lot. I once met a 2nd house Venus taurus placement man who noticed and praised my bangles which was really surprising coming from nowhere. Women with Taurus placements love to dress up, jewel up, make up. My momma is Venus in 2nd house and she always dresses up her best, even if her budget is not high. It is quality and class that she wears even with a modest budget.

A mature taurus is grounded, stable, secure. At best they can be really hard working. At worst they can be really lazy. They can be the husbands who come from work to sleep off their weekends until the next working day.

Since Taurus does not put themselves into innovative situations, their life can be monotonous and nothing really exciting. If there is air energy or fire energy, then you can expect some variation. But Taurus stellium or major Taurus energy is just middle aged couple upper middle class family with golden retriever vibes, even when they are teen or young adult.

Bring money minded, they can appear superficial to water signs who are more emotional and spiritual. Taurus likes money, Taurus wants money and Taurus earns money. Taurus is not entitled to your money, Taurus makes own money. That's what makes Taurus greedy but not selfish. They can get really greedy though and not know when to stop because money is money is money.

Relationship with a Taurus can give sense of peace as to bank balance. Taurus man will go out and do his job. My dad is Venus in Taurus in 10th house, and he sure does like to gauge his self worth according to his money making potential.

When I think of Taurus, I am reminded of pearls. It is the luxury and sophistication of pearls that Taurus imagination show:

SOME ASTRO MISTAKES I HAVE MADE SO FAR WHILE LEARNING THINGS:

Trying to use astrology to predict longetivity and death of someone. This is really controversial and hard to predict. Perhaps someone with gifted intuition can predict something like this but using just astrology is not a good idea. Astrology cannot tell how long someone will live or when they will die. For eg, contrary to popular belief that saturn in 8th house gives very long life, i have seen many natives passing in their middle ages. Similarly, all inner planets in 8th house have reputation of giving long lives but this is not the case. Sigmund Freud with moon in 8th house taurus died at 83 while Steve Jobs with moon in 8th house pisces died at 56. It was truly my mistake to use astrology for such taboo thing and to try to become God. In Vimshottari dasha chart, a lot of times such mahadasha, antardasha align that may generate paranoia that the native may pass away in that time period but no it doesnt work like that in every time period. In hindsight, when the native has already passed, perhaps it is possible to see in which time period they did pass and attribute that to it but it is risk of cognitive bias and there is no mental work involved. So, i think that it is very hard if not impossible to predict death from astrology. Anyway astrology must not be used for such sadistic purposes. Make the most out of each day you have. No person born will go back alive. One famous astrologer in India Bejan Daruwala passed away in corona period when he himself was doing predictions on corona. How ironic! I have seen astrologers predicting that such person will be alive for next 5 years and it is just a bad time period currently, but the native passed away within one month only. This kind of thing breaks my faith in astro and also makes the whole thing rather scary. I promised myself not to do something like this again in my astro studies. I refrain from doing death predictions.

Trying to read zodiac sign predictions to predict what will hapoen in coming month, year. This was when i was new to astro. I was born in June so my zodiac is Gemini. I used to read Gemini predictions for the coming month and year on random astro websites and blindly trusted it too. I remember preparing for exam and reading prediction that coming month will be good for students blah blah.. guess what? I failed that exam. This was rather stupid thing to do and i totally deserved what i got. 12 zodiac signs is not real astrology. Real astrology is the birth chart, time period of planets, perhaps tarot is also linked to it. But pop astrology and predictions are pure gibberish and commercial money making business. If you want to know how your coming week or month or year will be, take out your birth chart, use a reputed website to create vimshottari dasha chart, take out tarot and use your own energy and mind to come up with possible predictions. It also helps to keep a journal of each planetary time period and what happened during that time in your life so that in future you can use that journal to come up with probably future telling for your personal life path. Trying to predict fortune and success from astro alone is again a gamble. You have to trust in your skills and knowledge and practice. Dont repeat the mistake i did of blindly relying on astro to know my exam result.

Zodiac sign compatibility. This is funny but i used to see the birthday of my crush and match his zodiac sign with mine, read random gibberish on websites and thought "nah, we are not compatible, or nah i dont like this zodiac sign, or nah this zodiac sign is too superficial for me.." Couple astrology is only done with birth charts and nothing else. It takes mental effort to match compatibility. On top of that, friendship, values, personalities and willingness to be in relationship are all factors that are not within your control. You can also not tell when someone is being deceptive, lying, faking until you learn people skills and to read personalities. There is just no shortcuts in relationships.

Consuming a lot of youtube content to know astrology. Astrology has basic foundation that you can read in book and some trustworthy websites. There is nothing else to know. Watching random videos for short term gratification and sembalance that i am learning something or being productive is just not it. Astrology is personal tool. Everybody will have different language to say the same thing. Once you have read the basics, have trust in it and do not change your foundation just because someone else said so.

Astrology should not be put on a pedestal. Astrology is valid and gives answers to questions of life but it is just that - a tool, a subject, a field of knowledge. Dont make it your whole life. Dont worship it. Dont make it your whole personality. Dont use it too much that you lose your sanity. Life is meant to live not to figure out. The more you figure out, the more you will see how much is unknown and yet to be explored. You dont have enough years in your life to explore everything that is unconscious.

The only person you need to look up to is yourself. If you cannot tell the answers, i doubt anyone else can. I use to spend a lot of time watching oracle live streams, using random websites of psychics. Use your judgment to discern between money making business and genuine knowledge. Occult world is not devoid of sociopaths who simply want to make money at someone else's expense and being the nature of occult so abstract, it is easy to exploit people in terms of relationship issues, career issues, mental health issues, health issues. We cannot even blame the victim because in that vulnerable time period they are looking at all possible options to fix their problems. We learn from our mistakes only.