As An Ex-anti I Feel A Little Bad Because I Only Stopped Being One When It Was My Ship They Started Targeting.

As an ex-anti I feel a little bad because I only stopped being one when it was my ship they started targeting. I wonder if I ever would have changed if I never happened to ship a "bad ship" one time or if I'd still be spouting the same nonsense today. :-/

This is actually one of the most common ways people stop being an anti. When you're forced onto the other side of the argument, it often brutally enlightens you to faults in your own arguments and perspective.

You never truly understand what someone else is thinking until you're forced to think in the same way, or to recognise how and why they think the way they do.

Unfortunately, sometimes antis will experience that and only double down on their own argument, declaring themselves the exception or inventing increasingly varied reasons for why things don't apply to them.

https://www.tumblr.com/myfandomrealitea/754160247551197184/as-an-ex-anti-i-feel-a-little-bad-because-i-only?source=share

I stopped being an anti because I was bored so I made a proship acc (not to expose people and harass them, just out of boredom /gen) and found out my #1 fav artist was a proshipper so I kept tha blog for a few more weeks just to interact with them more... 😂

and the more I came into proship spaces the more I realized how harmful anti spaces were. I was constantly stressed, and worried about getting harassed for my oc being gay due to childhood sexual trauma and many other things.

(btw me n my fav artist are friends now.)

I love asks like this. I'm so glad you got yourself out of that harmful space and even found a friendship to boot.

Honestly; a lot of people don't actually realize how harmful the more extremist/active 'anti' community is. If you're living in constant fear of doing the 'wrong thing' or constant fear that you're next, that you'll be harassed or called out or harmed, it is not safe. It is not healthy.

There's no right or wrong way to 'become' proship. There's no obligations to interact with content you don't enjoy if you do, either.

What even is proshipping

Proshipping is pro-shipping. As in; for shipping. In support of shipping.

'Proship' is the modern evolution of the original acronym SALS, which stands for Ship And Let Ship. It is exactly the same concept as; "your kink is not my kink, but that's okay. Its simply not my business."

The core values of proshipping are:

Everyone has a right to ship.

Ships cannot and should not be controlled or dictated. (E.g; "I don't like this ship so you're a bad person for liking it and you're not allowed to ship it.")

People should not be shamed, harassed, threatened, ect because of their ships.

Modern 'proshipping' will often vary from individual to individual. In truth, the term 'proshipping' as its used and defined these days would be actually be 'profiction.' This is because many people expand proshipping in order encompass being pro-X across an array of varying creative and fandom based criteria.

However as 'proship' is the more commonly known label it is the most widely accepted.

There is often the common misconception stemming from careful propaganda that proshipping exclusively refers to the support and enjoyment of taboo or dark themes such as incest and pedophilia. This is not true.

Proshipping does not mean: "I enjoy incest." Proshipping means: "even if I do not enjoy incest, it is not my place to try to stop you doing so or harming you because of it."

Last I checked tumblr doesn't allow links to be sent via ask, and this could be found with a Google search, but here. Hope this goes through. dontreblogbigots . tumblr . com/post/662890014546460672/prismatic-bell-is-a-zionist-among-other-things

Tumblr removed the ability to hyperlink in asks, but you can still just paste the link as plain text in the askbox. No need for spaces or breaks. At one point it had also removed the ability to paste a link, but that only lasted about three days.

I'll do my research on the matter. (The blog, not the linking.)

Okay, fine, AI rape art is fine because it's not real. What about AI CSAM? Is it fine because it's art, or is it bad because real CSAM content is basically guaranteed to have been involved in training the AI? Again, where do you think AI /learns/ to make photorealistic RAPE art? It uses REFERENCES.

I can't believe you're making me somewhat defend AI generation here but off we go I guess.

AI data-mines accessible media and specific locations for media. While AI continuously learns the more you use it, the majority of AI's founding knowledge came pre-launch, as well as with its training. AI is not digging its little fingers around in the dark web.

For example if you wanted to prompt 'child porn' the AI does not immediately start digging around in the dark web for child pornography. It pairs the two keywords 'child' with everything its learned on children and 'porn' with everything its learned on sex and pornography and mashes them together.

So, no. Its not "basically guaranteed" to have used real CSEM. Nice try, though.

Granted there are still AI services which allow you to insert a sample image, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think an inserted reference image paired with specific prompts won't get flagged for review. AI techbros don't want their million dollar investments getting tanked and while they don't care about copyright you can bet they'll care if the FBI start kicking down their doors.

Most AI generators, in their legal statements, will have a section about using unlawful content to reference, train or manipulate their technology.

A lot of AI generation tools also blacklist certain key terms anyway so pornographic or "unsavory" content cannot be created. (Like rape images, murder images, gore images, ect.)

(E.g; if I tried to prompt 'Trump getting murdered' on select AI generation sites it would tell me I cannot use a prompt including 'murdered.')

I will say that there needs to be a better system in place for that. I'm sure a lot of samples of actual illegal activity have made it through the cracks (as it does everywhere), which is part of why I firmly believe AI generation should be shut down until the entire system can be reworked in order to offer better protection to the people who are being used as cashcows. In terms of copyright protection and more effective systems for preventing AI being trained off of certain content.

And because I know you're going to ask; yes. I do believe that if an image was generated sourced from actual CSEM, that the image should be as thoroughly scrubbed as possible. I do not condone CSEM in any form nor for any uses.

Nor do I condone AI generation (as it currently stands.)

Are you done with your little gotcha attempts now, Anon? I'm bored.

sometimes it’s hard af being an ex anti. For context, I just recently got into a popular “controversial” anime because the two mcs (who are an adult and minor) are kinda heavily implied to be lovers. And of course I ship them, right? And I like to think of myself as past my own old ideals, above how I used to see things, rejecting my old way of living and interacting with fandom, but there’s just… this nagging fear in the back of my head, like, “omg what if this is actually illegal,” “omg what if I’m actually a pedo,” “omg could I get arrested for reading this explicit fanfiction of them?” Not to mention that I’m deathly scared of reblogging or sharing any posts about the ship because I’m afraid I’ll get mobbed and doxxed. I don’t want to be scared. I wish I had the confidence that so many other proshippers have

Asks like this should really be a slap in the face to antis and people who think its perfectly fine and normal to terrorize people and risk their lives over fictional content.

Honestly, my best advice would be to carefully curate your internet space to offer as much protection to yourself as you can.

Block antis liberally. Especially ones known to be outspoken or to target people.

Scour your blog and remove any identifying information and limit what you post in reference to yourself. Never tell people your real name, hint at where you live (unless you're just generically stating the country, like "America.")

Avoid clicking on links or sites or following directions to internet locations, especially from random asks and posts.

Utilize proper tagging. Responsible antis will have tags they don't want to see blocked, and its best for both of you if you offer them the opportunity not to be exposed to your content.

Likewise, block certain tags.

But, aside from that, most of your thoughts are just anti propaganda. You're not going to be arrested for fanfiction. You're only a pedophile if you're actually sexually attracted to children. Its not illegal unless its something like actual CSEM.

Don't let their propaganda and lies work.