Good Luck Holding Court When No One Likes You, Chloe.

Good luck holding court when no one likes you, Chloe.

Episode 9 Part 5

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Obey Me! Surprise guest guide and other tips

Thank you so much to @ike-sol and her friend for starting out this project, for making the spreadsheet to better organize the data, and for inviting me in to do this with them!

This guide focuses on how to get 3 hearts from the boys after the dance battles without using any item. Also, we only compiled the results for if you get 3 stars in the battle. Let's get into it!

First, we found out that there are 6 different places where you can touch your Boy. You have the option to tap, or rub these:

The high five (no rub for that one)

The hair

The face

The chest

The arms (both arms work the same)

The hand (for Lucifer and Satan only)

(There is also the option to shake your phone but research has not been done on that because it's just way too annoying to do)

Important: The shoulder is a lie! It acts as the junction point between the arms and the chest, and can pick up as either depending on the Boy, and sometimes even the side.

Here are the results:

(💗 = big hearts, gives you more intimacy points)

Lucifer

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Tap hair

Rub hair 💗

Tap hand

Rub hand

Rub chest

Tap arm

Rub arm

3rd move

Tap hair

Rub hair 💗

Rub face

Tap hand 💗

Rub hand

Tap chest

Rub chest 💗

Tap arm 💗

Rub arm

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Tap face

Tap chest

Rub arm

2nd move

Tap hair

Rub hair

Rub hand

Rub chest

Rub arm

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Rub face

Tap hand

Tap chest

Rub chest 💗

Tap arm

Mammon

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Rub hair

Rub face

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Rub face 💗

Rub chest

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Rub hair

Rub face

Tap arm

2nd move

Rub hair

Rub face

Rub arm

3rd move

Rub hair

Rub face 💗

Tap chest

Tap arm

Leviathan

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Tap hair

Rub hair 💗

Tap chest

Tap arm 💗

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Tap face

Rub chest 💗

Tap arm

Rub arm 💗

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Tap hair

Rub chest

2nd move

Rub hair

Rub face

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Rub face 💗

Rub chest

Satan

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Rub face

Tap chest

Tap hand

Tap arm

3rd move

Tap hair

Tap chest

Tap hand

Tap arm

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Rub face

Tap chest

2nd move

Tap hair

Tap chest

3rd move

Tap face

Tap hand

Rub hand

Tap arm

Rub arm

Asmodeus

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Rub hair

Rub face

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Rub face 💗

Rub chest

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Rub hair

Rub face

Tap arm

Rub arm

2nd move

Rub chest

Tap arm

3rd move

Rub hair

Tap face

Rub face

Rub chest

Rub arm 💗

Beelzebub

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Rub face

Rub chest

Tap arm

3rd move

Rub hair

Tap face

Rub chest

Rub arm 💗

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Tap hair

Rub face

Tap arm

2nd move

Tap hair

Rub face

Rub chest

Rub arm

3rd move

Tap hair

Tap face

Tap chest

Rub chest 💗

Belphegor

If he high fives you:

2nd move

Rub hair

Rub face

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Rub face 💗

Rub chest

If he doesn't high five you:

1st move

Rub hair

Tap face

Tap arm

2nd move

Tap hair

Rub face

Tap arm

3rd move

Rub hair 💗

Tap face

Rub face

Tap arm

And now for the "other tips part":

(Sorry if this is a bit jumbled)

If you're farming for certain battle rewards (watches, cups, etc.) you will get better results by battling in higher numbered chapters. This doesn't really apply to objects like skulls and above because you can only get them from hard battles, which you can only try 3 times a day.

In battle, little demons of pride never attack immediately when their bar is full. Don't wait for them, it's better getting your 2 attacks with your whole team and sometimes taking the hit.

Little demons of greed follow anyone that attacks, whether it's you or other members of their team (when paired with other non-greed). Wait for their bars to get full to attack them all at once.

Little demons of envy only follow you in battle when you are not countering. Wait for their bars to get full to attack them all at once.

Little demons of wrath rarely attack immediately when their bar is full. Don't wait for them, it's better to get your 2 attacks with your whole team and sometimes taking the hit.

Little demons of lust rarely team attack, usually each member will attack solo at random times. Ignore them, attack with your full team, take the annoyance.

Little demons of gluttony attack immediately when their bar is full, or sometimes one second later. If your whole team has the speed, counter. If one or more of the guys is too slow, take the hit and attack with all three guys when you can.

Little demons of sloth attack immediately or sometimes one second later, in groups of 2 if the team is only made up of sloth demons. When mixed with others, they will only NOT attack if the other two are attacking or have attacked in the last few seconds. Counter only if all your guys' bars are full. If not, take the hit and attack with all three guys when you can. Beware of their shock attack, even if the game shows you a wide smiley before the battle.

That's it for now!

I’m just gonna go straight into what’s been bothering me. Let’s take a look at the how each of the members became a part of the RFA.

Rika started the RFA. V’s her significant other, so of course he’d be in it. Jumin has a lot of connections and resources, plus he’s V’s best friend. Seven has hacking skills and can ensure the security of all of the RFA’s files. Jaehee is Jumin’s assistant and he realised she’s a very good worker who can contribute a lot to the RFA. (This is canon by the way, Jaehee explained this to MC through a phone call.) Yoosung is Rika’s cousin and she knows he loves to do volunteer work.

It makes sense why all of them were invited into the RFA. But then how did Zen get into the RFA? Like I’m not trying to be offensive because I absolutely love Zen, but all of them knew each other pretty well before the RFA was started (besides Jaehee of course, but at least that was explained). Why does Zen stick out like a sore thumb to me here? DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL THE SAME?

Rika brought flowers to one of Zen’s shows, before he was famous, and asked for a picture with him. And then somehow after that V followed him around and was taking pictures of him???? But we completely overlooked that fact because he had saved Zen’s life after he crashed his motorcycle.

Why aren’t we asking more questions about this?

Why was V even following Zen in the first place? Why is he so suspicious?

Why did Rika want Zen in the RFA?

Let me just move on to the theory I heard that has left me so weirdED OUT. I’ve also added on to it and provided my own evidence.

If you’ve watched MeliZbeauty’s theory about Seven being a wizard and Zen being in love with you in every route, this other theory will make more sense to you. I haven’t played Cheritz’s other games so I really don’t know how to explain this “Seven is a wizard” theory, but basically if you’ve been paying attention, Seven has hinted at the fact that he’s a wizard numerous times in different chats.

The theory goes that Seven created the entire Mystic Messenger universe specifically for Zen (BRACE YOURSELVES) under the request of V. This makes sense considering the April Fools DLC where EVERYONE but you and Zen wasn’t real. It shows that that universe was designed for you and him.

V, as you know, was very in love with Rika and would do anything for her. But while they were together, Rika fell in love with Zen. Jealous, V convinced Seven to make another universe so that Zen wouldn’t reciprocate the feelings and instead fall for another girl, who is MC – us.

I don’t know why Seven decided to still provide other routes if the motive was to get Zen to fall for MC, but I feel like there’s an underlying sadism going on there. Zen is being tortured time and time again and has to watch the love of his life fall for other people. This part supports the theory that Seven is a bad wizard, from MeliZbeauty’s video.

Maybe this was punishment? Maybe Zen was starting to fall for Rika too. Maybe Rika was actually the original MC, Zen was coming too close to getting her, and V could not stand that. Okay I’m straying away from my original theory let’s save that last sentence for another post.

I don’t have a lot of evidence for this theory. It’s actually almost just a scenario or headcanon, really. I forget whose damn route it was from, but there’s a particular phone call with Jaehee that actually kind of supports this.

In this call she says that ever since Rika died, everyone in the group has been different, and the only one who didn’t change at all was Zen.

If Rika and Zen had been close enough such that he had been welcomed into the RFA, why wasn’t he at all bothered by her death? Was this because of Seven’s tricks?

V was in love with her. Jumin had a crush on her. Seven had a crush on her. Yoosung, romantically I don’t know, but he did love her a lot. But Zen? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

So what exactly was their relationship? How did Zen get into the RFA? Is Seven really a bad wizard? Does V actually have it in him to do such a thing?

I’ve been seeing all those appreciation posts so now it’s Banri loving hours. Let’s all appreciate this handsome boy. 🤧

—And... do you have a type of guy?

Me: —No, I don’t

But also me:

hey, I hope you're properly resting and caring for that arm! no rush on the answer, but I wanted your take - what do you think archangel lucifer said/offered to mammon to make him so endlessly loyal way back when in heaven? it's been a burning question for me ever since they brought it up and I'd like to know what you think 👀

The Theory of Mammon's Loyalty

I am, thank you! I'll hopefully be able to answer some longer asks this weekend too 🤞

I have a suspicion that the personalities of the brothers didn't change that much when they went from angels in the Celestial Realm to being demons in the Devildom.

We get some clues to this sprinkled throughout the game, eg Lucifer being a very haughty Archangel, tales of Beel and Belphie's closeness (and Lilith), and Asmo having enjoyed his status as heaven's jewel.

However, very little is told of how Mammon and Levi used to be. We know Mammon is a Fallen Warrior, which is a big clue, and we know he used to babysit Beel, Belphie and Lilith but wasn't very good at it, the younger angels running rings around him 😅

It's clear even from that little information though that Mammon was always very family orientated, and when they fall, it's him who goes around checking on everyone and making sure Lucifer is okay, reassuring his elder brother that none of them regret following him.

Asmo tells MC that Mammon was originally under Michael's guidance, but the powerful Archangel couldn't work out how to manage an angel with such a determination to break the rules. When Michael eventually turned to his superior, Lucifer, for advice, Lucifer went to meet with Mammon - and from that moment on, Mammon was loyal to Lucifer.

Lucifer, we are told, finds Mammon adorable despite how exasperating he can be as a rulebreaker, and he himself has confessed that Mammon is his favourite brother. This would seem to contradict the fact that Lucifer also punishes Mammon the most but...

His loyalty to Lucifer is absolute, but his loyalty to Michael was not.

I've written before about how Mammon is the most angelic of the demon brothers, from his unchanged eyes to his "anonymous devil" act and his dedication to being MC's guardian demon.

My theory is that Mammon is drawn to the goodness inside somebody. All demons are drawn to shiny human souls, undirtied by corruption, and thus MC attracts all demons to themself. However, none are at MC's side as frequently as Mammon, the demon who cried his heart out when MC appeared to die in his arms.

He more than any other is badly affected by harm befalling MC, and he just so happens to have a past history of helping those in need instead of - as his sin would dictate - helping those filled with greed.

Whether it's an innate goodness or lack of greed that Mammon is drawn to, Lucifer has it. And Michael does not.

One thing all the fallen angels have in common is that they put their family before their duty, their love for their sister before unquestioning obedience, and their loyalty to Lucifer and his cause before loyalty to the Celestial Realm.

From a human perspective, taking religion out of the equation, they did the morally good thing - they sought to save a life, their sister "guilty" of no more than loving someone.

And the other angels, the ones who didn't join Lucifer's cause, who didn't attempt to save Lilith, who turned their back on their family... they did the morally wrong thing.

Someone who could do that is not somebody Mammon would have respect for. He above all is led by his heart and his desire to protect, not destroy. Even as an Avatar of Sin he unleashes his Greed upon himself and nobody else, incapable of corrupting people who are good, no matter how deep down that good may be buried.

And as MC has discovered in more recent lessons, Lucifer is innately good. Beneath the hurt and the guilt and the pride is the man who gave up all his tremendous power for the love of his family, and who still will defy those with more power than himself to keep his family safe.

It's my belief that Mammon helps Lucifer, both by challenging his rules and suffering the consequences, and by his genuine emotional support when nobody else dares try.

And in turn, Lucifer protects Mammon, helping him in his angelic deeds, keeping him enrolled in the Academy, ensuring that the Fallen Warrior need not go back to war again.

In summary, I don't think Lucifer said or did anything to win Mammon's loyalty the very first time they met. I think Mammon saw Lucifer for exactly who he was, good and bad, and recognised that it was the good that would ultimately guide him.

It was Mammon who arrived first in hell after Lucifer, plumetting after his brother with no hesitation. And Mammon's ability to truly see Lucifer as an indivual and the loyalty that inspires, one that goes above and beyond needing to know all the answers to why Lucifer does the things he does, is exactly why Lucifer loves Mammon most.

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Further reading:

Mammon: The Fallen Warrior

Mammon: Angel Eyes

Mammon the Protector (& Lucifer the Guardian)

In Defence of Lucifer