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Do you think Varang and Quaritch will have a romantic relationship in Avatar 3? And if so, what do you think Varang's attitude and feelings towards Spider might be?

That's a great question. I see two possible outcomes with Varang's character:

She's so evil even Quaritch is scared of her. Varang's villainous actions are so serious that it acts as motivation for Jake and Quaritch to team up to work against her. This one idea is definitely possible since there's a BTS image (below) where it looks like Varang has captured the Sully children and Spider and Quaritch is possibly negotiating with her. There's also the leaked script. On one page, Jake and Quaritch are having a civil conversation and Spider is sleeping nearby, implying that something big must've happened to force them to put aside their differences for the kids. That something could've been Varang. And one of the blurrier pages vaguely looks like it has dialogue of Varang threatening Quaritch, so she could definitely be an antagonist to him.

OR she ends up being a foil for Neytiri and she teaches Quaritch the ways of the Ash People and they end up falling in love. This one is also possible since there's also BTS footage of Quaritch wearing Ash People clothing, which would imply he's been accepted by them, and since Varang is their leader and has been hyped up as an important character, she would be directly involved in that. It's also possible the BTS image below is actually Varang and Quaritch working together, and Quaritch is thanking Varang for helping him get Spider back and recapture the Sully kids as hostages. There were many moments in The Way of Water that painted Quaritch as a foil to Jake (waking up in a new body, taming an ikran, etc) and having Quaritch undergo a similar experience of falling in love with a Na'vi who teaches him about her people would extend that foil even further.

Or heck it could be some combination of both. Maybe she starts out as a villain to Quaritch but they have an enemies-to-lovers arc, or they could have a dark version of JakexNeytiri, where Quaritch was sent to infiltrate her tribe, they fall in love, but unlike Jake, Quaritch chooses to betray them in the end, breaking her heart.

It's really too early to tell!

At worst, Varang would see Spider as nothing more than a useful hostage, a way to get Quaritch to do what she wants. At best, if she and Quaritch actually do develop romantic feelings for each other, she would see how important Spider is to her mate and want to be a "step mom" figure to him. It would be pretty easy for her to fill in that role since Spider doesn't have a healthy relationship with any living adult woman in his life, but there's no doubt Spider would reject her the way he rejected Quaritch out of loyalty to the Sullies. If Jake actually meant his "a son for a son" line and he takes Spider in in Avatar 3, I could even see Varang convincing Quaritch to accept Spider's choice to stay with the Sullies and let him go. (and maybe give him a new son lol)

I'm honestly hoping for Varang and Quaritch to be romantic, mostly because I think it would be funny. I've already jokingly compared Quaritch to Omni-man, so I'd love an excuse to draw this Invincible panel, but with Varang, Quaritch, and Spider:

TLDR: We have next to no information on Varang, so she could be any one of these ideas or none of them. James Cameron has hyped her up as an important new character, so whatever she ends up being, I'm sure it will be really interesting!

GIRL WHAT??? WHERE IS THIS??? DID I MISS SOMETHING OMG IM SO LOST HELP

girl you missed a lot of somethings! But it's cool, I'll catch you up to speed on all the leaks. It's a little late at this point, but 🚨SPOILER WARNING FOR AVATAR 3🚨

Varang using kuru mind-control: @spider-socorro-stan was able to make out some of the very blurry writing on this script page that was accidentally shown in BTS footage. As far as they could tell, the first line says "Varang wills Quaritch's arm to... bulging, as his hand opens and he..." which makes it sound like she's controlling him somehow. This led people to speculate that Varang might use tsaheylu to control others. Out of all the "spoilers," this one has the least amount of evidence supporting it so take it with a grain of salt.

2. Norm taken prisoner by the RDA: in this BTS image, two Na'vi in Ash attire stand with another Na'vi wearing an orange prison jumpsuit in the RDA control room. A lot of people believe that it's Quaritch and Wainfleet taking Norm prisoner.

3. Neytiri also in Ash People clothing: in this BTS image, Jake stands next to a Na'vi woman wearing Ash People attire, with Spider wearing... whatever the fuck that jumpsuit thing is in the background. It's hard to tell with her face hidden, but most people think the woman is Neytiri based off her height, build, and proximity to Jake.

4. The betabridge: this is the spoiler we have the least information about. According to the leaked script, right after Jake and Quaritch have their civil conversation while Spider is breathing the air, Quaritch leaves them (probably scared cause Neytiri showed up lmao) and flies back to Bridgehead with Wainfleet. There, they witness a massive machine that looks like "an oil rig crossed with a nuclear reactor." It lets out a loud noise and Wainfleet remarks that it is working now. We have no other information on what the Betabridge is other than what it looks like, but if it was built in Bridgehead, it can't be good for the Na'vi. Here is a transcript written by twitterX user AkumuHoshi based on what they could read:

@spider-socorro-stan also has a nice guide to all the script leaks pinned on their blog if you want to read more!

Common Enemy: an Avatar 3 fancomic,

🚨potential spoiler warning! Comic is based on leaked info🚨

Click for better ✨quality✨

I hope you enjoyed! Do you think something similar to this could happen in A3? Do Jake and Quaritch feel in character? Constructive criticism is welcome, please let me know what you think!

💙Reblogs are greatly appreciated 💙

Let's talk about the first look at Avatar 3 (pt 2)

🚨SPOILER WARNING FOR AVATAR 3!🚨

Next up, I want to talk about the next two images I saw from D23: Neytiri riding on her ikran, and the sky ship.

You can read my post discussing Varang and the Ash People here.

In the first image, we see Neytiri flying at night on her banshee, with what appears to be several large flying ships behind her, and in the second image, we have a clearer shot of the "sky ship" in daylight.

The ships are clearly Na'vi-made, since we see the natural weaving pattern and no metal. They have a large sail-like structure on top, and behind Neytiri we see a flying stingray-like creature that appears to be harnessed to the sky ship and pulling it along.

This was really exciting for me to see because I never imagined we'd see the Na'vi creating actual flying vehicles rather than just riding on the backs of flying animals. Most interestingly, even though these sky ships are more complex technology than anything we've seen from the Na'vi before, they appear not to break any of the laws of Eywa. They don't appear to be made of stone or metal, and they don't use wheels. I really like seeing this because I hate that one theory that Eywa intentionally keeps the Na'vi from technologically advancing out of some malevolent goal. Eywa doesn't have any problem with technological advancements, she only prohibits things that would harm the balance of nature, like mining metal and tearing down the forest to build roads for wheeled vehicles.

I believe that these sky ships belong to the Windtrader clan James Cameron has hinted at. These ships look pretty different from anything we've seen from the Ash People, plus Neytiri is flying alongside them like they're allies. It would also make sense based on the name for people called "windtraders" to fly through the sky using the wind and also have large ships capable of carrying material to trade with other clans. I can't wait to see what a windtrader Na'vi looks like and if they have unique adaptations to set them apart from other clans! Perhaps they would be smaller in order to be lighter on the ships and have bigger lungs to process oxygen at such high altitudes.

Now to talk about the sky ship itself, it appears to have three main components: the cabin, the steed, and the sail. The cabin is the woven part of it that is the actual ship where the Na'vi would ride and store their goods. The steed is that stingray looking creature behind Neytiri that looks like it's harnessed to the cabin and pulling it through the air. I would really like an in-universe explanation for how in that giant stingray thing is flying. It looks HUGE, maybe a little over half as long as tulkun. I know Pandora has lower gravity and a thicker atmosphere, so the physics are different, but come on that things has to weigh a hundred tons! They better have a sci-fi explanation for how that big thing flies. And if you look closely, there seems to be a na'vi riding on it's back, implying it has kurus to plug into up there. From what I can see of its back, it looks blue with white spots, kind of like a whale shark.

The last part of the ship is the large sail-like structure that appears to be keeping the whole contraption buoyant. I saw folks on the r/Avatar subreddit speculating about what it is, and I believe they had the right idea when they guessed it was a Medusa.

The medusa is a giant, flying jellyfish-like creature that James Cameron dreamed up many years ago. Here are some old concept arts for it, and as you can see, they look quite different. Cameron never settled on a final design for this creature, just that it was a flying carnivorous jellyfish. He wanted to include it in the Avatar universe, but never had the chance to. He recently said in an interview a few months ago that Avatar 3 would finally include his alien creation, but he didn't say how. Since the Na'vi would lack the ability to create hot air balloons or zeppelins like humans, I believe the windtraders are using a creature from their environment to lift their ships, and that creature is the medusa, given a final design by James Cameron and his creative team. The sails are a pale purplish membrane like in the concept art, and if you look directly behind Neytiri's head, there seem to be tentacles hanging down from the ship, implying it is a medusa.

So it seems to me like the windtraders weave their boats out of the same material that maruis (Na'vi homes) are made from, then they attach it to a medusa to lift it into the air, and then they harness it to a flyinf stingray to pulls the boat where they want to go. The windtraders must be super smart to come up with all this! I cannot wait to see it in action!

And the way Neytiri is flying with them gives me the vibe that she and Jake have been reaching out to other clans to join the fight against the RDA and the windtraders agreed to team up with them and now they're flying off on a mission together!

What do you guys think of all this? Did I miss anything?

If Quaritch and Varang actually hook up, how do you think Spider is going to feel about it?

Probably like this lmao

I wonder if the airships are the work of Ash's na'vi or the good guys. Can't wait for that!

I believe the airships belong to the Windtraders! James Cameron has hinted that we will not just be introduced to the Ash Clan, but also another Na'vi group called the Windtraders. We know literally nothing about them except for that they presumably like wind and trading things. I think giant floating sky ships with plenty of storage space for trading goods must belong to the Windtraders!

I'd like to see Spider join the Ash na'vi ranks at some point, so I came up with something. What if Spider admits to saving Quaritch? Somehow Jake manages to stop Neytiri from murdering him, but everyone is very distant from him (except Kiri). Ash na'vi start attacking with the help of RDA, they are very dangerous and deadly and Jake is helpless, he knows that in a normal fight they don't stand a chance. Then Neytiri says that they can attack the enemy from the inside, and since Quaritch clearly cares about Spider, he might as well join him as a spy. Jake and the others immediately oppose but Spider thinks that it would be a good way to redeem himself so he sneaks out to carry out the plan. It was mentioned somewhere that Ash na'vi consists of outcasts, right? So Spider finds them and announces that he was thrown out of the forest and asks to be accepted into their ranks, with Quaritch's help he manages to do so.

wow this is such a cool idea! I honestly don't think anything like this would happen in canon, based on the leaks and my own theorizing, I believe that Jake is going to want to keep Spider very close, partially because of the "miracle" that will happen to him and make him a target for the RDA and partially as insurance in case Quaritch attacks again. I also don't know how the ash people would feel about taking in a human, specifically a human so closely affiliated with Toruk Makto.

But this would make a fantastic fanfic! The drama of Spider being behind enemy lines, forced to be in close proximity to Quaritch and inevitably getting attached to him again but still clinging to his loyalty to his friends, getting torn apart, aaaaah the angst!

In my opinion, the one on the left of Varang looks like Lyle and the one in the back with the gun is probably Quaritch

I can see it, but me personally I think they're just Ash Na'vi wielding human weapons. Based on the other stuff we probably will see Quaritch and/or Wainfleet fly with the Ash People at some point. That'll be so freaking cool to see!

I wonder if the whole issue of cutting off kuru isn't a bit too..brutal for the age category. Maybe these kuru are cut off after the clan leader dies and then during the supposed celebration shown in one of the leaks they are put on by the current leader as a way of drawing power/wisdom from past leaders or something like that? Some people cut off a braid of hair after family member's death and keep it as a memento.

I don't know if we'll actually see a scene of Varang cutting off a kuru. Maybe it will only happen off-screen to keep it from being too violent. Or maybe she only removes them from Na'vi enemies who are already dead. The fact that it's "just hair" to the average viewer and not a limb or something will make it easier to pass any censors.

I've heard of traditions involving keeping hair of dead loved ones, and we very well may see Na'vi practice that, but I don't think that's the case with Varang. She looks a little too frightening in that scene to be just honoring the dead, and James Cameron has promised that avatar 3 will feature a villain we'll love to hate and examples of navi being evil. My gut's telling me that varang is cutting off kurus maliciously and that this is not a case of taking them after death. This feels like a way to strike fear in the heart of your enemies.

Ooh Kukulope is very pretty! It looks like her skirt is made with fur, so maybe the Windtraders get skins from animals that live in cold areas where they would need fur! I can see why people think she might be a Windtrader.

But part of me also hopes she isn't. Kukulope appears to be have all the same traits as other forest Na'vi. I was really hoping we'd get to see more biodiversity, and the windtraders would have more distinct physical characteristics to help them survive at high altitude or in a desert homeland!

I wonder if the airships are the work of Ash's na'vi or the good guys. Can't wait for that!

I believe the airships belong to the Windtraders! James Cameron has hinted that we will not just be introduced to the Ash Clan, but also another Na'vi group called the Windtraders. We know literally nothing about them except for that they presumably like wind and trading things. I think giant floating sky ships with plenty of storage space for trading goods must belong to the Windtraders!

ooh I love all of this theorizing! The D23 images breathed some life back into the fandom!

One thing I disagree with is the Youtuber Avatar Theory's theory that the Ash Na'vi cut their kurus off and give them to Varang. We see in the other Ash Na'vi image that there's a whole bunch of them flying on those ikran-like creatures, which you can only do if you have a kuru. Even though it would be a way to show the extreme devotion of your followers, it wouldn't make sense to essentially cripple some of your loyal subjects just for the sake of a power play. Without a kuru, her followers would be unable to ride any creatures, making them less useful warriors and hunters. I love Avatar Theory, but I think he's got it wrong here. I still stand by my original theory that Varang cuts off the kurus of her enemies and wears them as a fear tactic, and @nilnether suggested she might do it as a spiritual practice where she believes she's absorbing the strength of her enemies, which I also think is pretty likely.

@dumbass--tumbler--cryptid I've seen that image of Spider a hundred times but I somehow never noticed that his hair is significantly darker at the roots, it almost looks black rather than the natural darkening of blond hair with age. I wonder if its another side-effect of the "miracle" that will happen to him.

Ahh I can't wait for Avatar 3! I know it probably won't happen but I would like to see Spider join the ranks of Ash's na'vi either through re-kidnapping or willingly as some kind of inside spy or ambassador for the good guys (kind of like Clarke from the 100 if you know this show). And while I'm not a fan of the idea of ​​Quaricth being romantically involved with Varang I think it would be funny to see her and Spider together since she would basically become his stepmother

I loved the idea of ash clan Spider and was having so much fun with the ideas you listed until the theories based off the D23 pic started being talked about. My friend @cyren-myadd has some great thoughts on everything and I’m also a big fan of Avatar Theory on YouTube. I was watching his break down of the Ash Clan last night and he noted that the other Na’vi in the picture with Varang don’t seem to have kurus hinting that they might cut them off and give them to Varang as a sign of loyalty. If that actually happens then that is so insane to me. This isn’t just a tribe of out casts, it’s a cult.

In the original Avatar there’s actually a deleted scene of Tsu’tey, who survives his fall, though is still very injured. He’s found by Wainfleet who says that he heard having their kurus cut off is worse then death for a Na’vi and then proceeds to cut off Tsu’tey’s. When Tsu’tey is found he makes Jake the next leader and then begs him for death which Jake gives him. I think knowing all that is what makes the idea of Na’vi willing cutting off their kurus so off putting to me. It’s not only severing their connection to Eywa, but to every loved one they could connect with, every creature they could bond with. And it’s all for Varang. That is beyond scary for me and so I don’t want my boy anywhere near that crazy cult although I know he will be.

I’m pretty certain from the set leaks we’ve gotten that at least Spider and Jake will be captured by Quaritch. So yeah Spider will definitely meet the ash clan through re-kidnapping. But I don’t think he’ll stay with them for long. The ash clan is obviously working with the R.D.A.

 We see in this image that the background ash clan are all heavily armed. They’d only get that kind of firepower from the R.D.A. My guess is that Varang wants to be all powerful and spread her cult to all the tribes. She probably doesn’t care about the great balance if her followers cut off their kurus and so she makes a deal. For their firepower Varang will let the R.D.A strip Pandora for resources.

From script and art leaks we know that a miracle will take place where Spider will be able to breath Pandoran air and possibly from the art leak have a kuru of his own.

This image has been kicking around for a while now and you can see Spider has a braid like a kuru but I’m thinking that might actually be his kuru. Now hear me out because my evidence is very tenuous for this but you see how Spider’s hair is significantly darker at the roots. Like their Jack Champions real hair color. Could just be attention to detail since some blonds do change to brunettes as the age or it could be because we’re going to lose the wig I.e all our angst fics come true and we actually do see Spider get his dreads cut off.

(Which even though I’ve written that scenario a few times I legitimately don’t want to see it happen just because I don’t want to see our boy in anymore pain)

And the only way I really see that happening is if he’s captured (like we know he will be) and experimented on by the R.D.A. They’d most definitely want to see how his kuru attaches to his brain and you can’t perform brain surgery on a patient with a full head of hair. Quaritch wouldn’t be able to just stand by and let this happen though. He cares about his son for sure but also he’s indebted to Spider for saving his life. I can see a moment mirroring the one on the rocks where Spider left Quaritch after saving him, though this time it’s Spider who was saved. Spider would be seeing his dad’s potential for change and want him to come with him but Quaritch refuses this time. He’s all out of sorts because he’s seen how crazy Varang is and has no desire to return to the ash clan but he also can’t go back to the R.D.A now that he’s betrayed them. So he just says “now we’re even,” hops onto Cupcake and flies away leaving Spider to return to Jake.

Those are all just theories though. I’m just as excited as you for Fire and Ash! Everything from D23 had me pricing out how much a weekend trip to Animal Kingdom would cost me just so I could go to the world of Pandora there. I think I’ll cry happy tears the day I finally have enough money to go and bask in the world I love so much.

Thank you so much for reaching out! 💞💞

Beautiful fanart, I can't wait to see her for real!

I hope she'll appear in the teaser trailer. Going off of A2's release schedule, we'll probably get the teaser trailer next spring, so we may be less than a year away from getting a real look at her!

This is kind of random but I specifically really really want to get a good look at her fully rendered skin. I love how each Na'vi subgroup has a unique pattern, forest people with their blue tiger stripes and reef people with their swirling green marks. I hope the ash people have a unique skin color and pattern too!

My second, quickly doodled attempt at Varang lol. Tried making her as close to the design as possible and referenced her actress, Oona, for the facial features.

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(My commission list)

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Aww Kiri and Spider 💙

I cannot wait to see them in A3, especially how the "miracle" will effect their relationship. Since it seems like Kiri is the one who saves Spider's life, I imagine they'll be closer than ever before, just not sure if it will be romantic or platonic

Kiri and Spider

It's finally done! I've never spent so many hours on an art before but this one is very dear to me 💙

Spoilers ahead

A moment between Kiri and Spider on the Metkayna reef that could be set in the next film (just announced... Avatar: fire and ash!). Spider has grown a queue/kuru and is able to breath Pandoran air, and has got a Metkayna makeover and tattoo, as it was implied in some photos from the set, which I used as a reference. Let me know what you think, and reblogs are very much appreciated 💙

Hi! Quick question, do you know if this leak is official? I found it on Tik Tok but I don't think I've seen it before so I wonder if it's not just fan made 😅

yoooo I haven't seen this before! No idea if it's real or not, but it sure looks like a real BTS shot to me. If this is a fake, the creator certainly went through a lot of work just to make the image so blurry you can hardly tell what's happening. You'll have to ask the OP on tiktok where they got it from if you want to confirm anything.

It looks like that Na'vi guy is about to knock the living Eywa out of Varang lmaooooo I wonder who it is

I just need a scene where Spider finds out that Quaritch is dating Varang and realizes that she's actually his stepmother now. That's it, thanks for your attention.

Spider realizing he now has to deal with not one, but TWO insane evil parents

this is more or less me just coming up with things, but maybe the ash people don't really cut off their own huru (assuming varang gets all of hers from enemies and deceased elders and the like), because eywa does come with a few benefits like storing memories for later. there's a practical use. so like, maybe they want to have all the beneficial things that eywa gives, yet not any of the "drawbacks" like the three laws bring like not using metal or wheels?

I agree with you on that.

Youtuber Avatar Theory came up with the idea that Varang's followers purposefully sever their kurus and give them to her as a sign of devotion, and though I love Avatar Theory, I don't think he's got it quite right there. As you said, there's just too many disadvantages to severing a kuru. Even if Varang was on the worst power trip ever, she would still realize warriors without kurus would have a huge disadvantage. Plus, we've seen the D23 image with a whole bunch of Ash People riding their banshee-like mounts, which makes it pretty unlikely they sever their kurus for her.

I believe she severs the kurus of her enemies and of her enemies only, partially as a fear tactic and partially as part of a spiritual belief that she absorbs the strength from her enemies' kurus.

Sketched out a diagram of the Windtrader Sky Ship

I can't wait to see what they look like in action!

If the Ash na'vi are supposed to be allies of the RDA does that mean they would be able to accept humans and treat them as their own, treat them with respect? Or would they allow only recoms? I can't wait to find out!

I'm honestly not sure if the Ash People will be allies to the RDA. We've seen them using human weapons in the D23 art, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to ally with the RDA.

I don't have solid evidence for this theory, I'm just going based off of vibes, but I think this is what will happen:

Jake is going to start rallying the clans just like he did in A1, except this time he's not just getting forest people but also reef people and wind people. The RDA realizes whats happening and start to panic. With most of the recoms dead, they have no soldiers who can safely enter the really wild areas outside of their control, and they don't have the resources to torch everything in their path, so they come up with the idea to try and use Quaritch to convince a clan to join them. This way, they could have more soldiers who can enter Eywa's territory without having to spend the resources of growing them.

Quaritch ends up finding the ash people and he starts trying to build an alliance with them. Varang goes along with this at first, but she definitely has her own ulterior motives in mind. The ash people get access to human weapons and battle tactics from Quaritch, while Quaritch and Wainfleet start dressing like ash na'vi to assimilate and make them trust them more. This is why we see ash na'vi wielding guns and we see Quaritch wearing ash attire.

At some point, the Sully kids and Spider get mixed up in all this. This is where the leak comes in: Spider somehow loses/damages his mask, and Kiri performs the "miracle" on him, allowing him to breathe. Jake and Quaritch have a very temporary alliance for Spider's sake and even though Quaritch wants to take Spider with him, he realizes Spider will be in danger at the RDA so he agrees to let Jake go on the condition he gets Spider to safety.

Despite Jake's best efforts to hide Spider with the reef people, the RDA somehow figures out that Spider can breathe on his own now and they try to capture him alive so they can learn how this happened and replicate it in human soldiers. This puts Quaritch in a position where he is forced to choose between his duty to humanity and being a father to Spider. Somewhere in this, Quaritch also learns that Varang never intended to cooperate with the RDA and was only using them to get weapons and knowledge, and now she's going to betray them.

When everything reaches its boiling point, Quaritch chooses to betray the RDA and save Spider. There's some big battle where between Jake's resistance and Varang's betrayal, the RDA suffers a massive loss and Avatar 3 ends on a positive note since it was written as a possible ending. Quaritch can now never go back to the human side and he's done too much damage to ever work with the resistance, so out of desperation, he joins the Ash Clan, the only people left who will take him. Varang welcomes him with open arms, happy to have a demon with extensive knowledge on human battle tactics on her side. And that's where Avatar 3 would end for Quaritch.

So to answer your question about humans, I feel like Varang and co. would only see the humans as tools to be used by them and discarded once they're no longer useful. I get the vibes that the ash people really value strength and power over all else, and while they might be jealous of the humans' powerful weaponry, they would look down on the humans for their physical weakness. The one exception might be Spider. If Varang and Quaritch become allies or even lovers, I think Varang might tolerate Spider at best purely out of respect for Quaritch.

I've also seen a theory that if Spider ends up growing a kuru, Varang might go after him as a form of trophy hunting because he would be the only human with a kuru in the whole world and that would make him rare and unique, but that would definitely sour any relationship between Varang and Quaritch...

I would like Quaritch and Varang to not have a romantic relationship and instead be more of a pair of villains who complement each other and are unbeatable together but that probably won't happen. But I would like to see a scene where Varang kidnaps the kids, sees Spider and is like: oh, you're that human son of Quaritch that he often mentioned. And everyone has this shock on their face beacuse 1. Q has some connection to those dark na'vi and 2. that he openly calls Spider his son. And then we have the leak scene where Quaritch enters the room and negotiates to place Spider under his care and keep the Sullys as hostages.

I could see it going either way. What I personally think will happen is that Quaritch and Varang will have this sort of romantic tension between each other, but their relationship is too strained by their loyalties to their respective factions that they don't get to act on it. Sort of an enemies-that-could-be-lovers-in-different-circumstances thing.

Ooh I like the scene you described. Quaritch spent all of Avatar 2 refusing to call Spider his son up until the very end, when Spider finally escaped him. That moment when he finally calls out "son" to Spider so desperately and asks him to come with him always hits hard. To show how much he's changed, I would love to hear Quaritch referring to Spider as his son more in Avatar 3, and it would be interesting to see how the other characters react to it!

And yes, I believe that BTS scene is definitely of Quaritch trying to talk Varang into handing Spider over to him.