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An actor who is openly okay with their character being shipped with other characters or who is openly okay with being shipped with their costars/friends is not automatically giving you permission to engage them in it or push it on them.

It is not an open invitation to send them explicit ship art or tag them in ship posts or ask them inappropriate questions at Cons. It is not an open invitation to try to dig out their sexuality or use their stance on shipping as "evidence" that they're X or not X.

"I am okay with people having creative perspectives on my relationships." =/= "I am okay with being forced to constantly see it, be asked about it or have it impact my life."

I've seen people bringing explicit art to conventions for the actors to sign and for some of them it has very clearly made them uncomfortable. Even if its not intended to be RPF you are still using their exact likeness in pornography.

Unless you know with 100% certainly that someone is okay with being actively engaged in something, don't try to push their involvement. Stop asking them invasive questions at panels. Stop bringing explicit art or fanfiction to meets.

In real terms, its like when your parents or friends insist you have a crush on someone or you must be secretly dating. It makes things uncomfortable, awkward, and after a point it gets frustrating and upsetting. There are countless examples of famous people who've had their lives impacted by people trying to force ship content on them, be it by destroying their real-life relationships or just by making them actively resent the characters, fans and/or ships.

Septiplier (Youtubers Mark Fischbach/Markiplier and Seán McLoughlin/Jacksepticeye) is a prime example of this, where fans were so determined to actively force them to engage with shipping that it began to negatively impact their friendship and real-life relationships to the extent that for a while they took a break on being publicly seen as interacting.

To summarize; Creating ship content and shipping characters or RPF is fine and valid, but unless an actor has explicitly said they are happy to be engaged in it or presented with it, you should do your due diligence to make sure you're not exposing them to content or trying to force that content to sway/impact/represent reality. (E.g; many straight actors are perfectly fine with their fans creating queer RPF, and it does not "provide proof" that they're actually not straight.)

Say it louder for the people in the back

i love both kataang and zutara and i was genuinely fucking surprised to see how toxic and personal the shipping wars could get when i took just a few peeks at some anti/vs threads holy shit

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“Kill them with kindness” Wrong! Pro-ship Vs Anti-ship discourse, go!

I always feel uncomfortable going against the most famous ship in any fandom because I don't see it like that. Being on the arospec and acespec affects how I see things like that compared to others. Like Wolfstar, I see them as best friends, but it is completely fine for you to ship them. Kiribaku is another example of "I see them as friends."

I could go on a rant about how friends should just be friends regardless of whether they're the same sex or not, but I won't because it is a pointless rant and would cause so much discourse. People would be up in arms with pitchforks and torches. Nor do I hate anyone who ships them or see anyone different. It's the internet, and I choose not to interact with anything with tagged ships.

I've always been worried that people were going to eat me alive because of this, so I would never bring it up, but I wanted to now. The internet is anonymous, and you don't know me, unless you know me irl. It's not that I feel comfortable hiding behind a screen, but I feel less prone to overexplain myself and overthink or try to salvage any friendship I ever have.

I don't like Wriolette, but I let my friends talk about them and even wrote two one-shots for them because they gave me an excellent idea that I built on.

And it may seem like I don't ship guys together because those are the only famous ships I've mentioned, but I don't like Dramione either. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't interact with the tag or fics of that nature. I've mentioned three gay ships, so now I'll mention three straight ones. Dramione is one of them, Bakuchaco and Aranobu (I love Itto, but my girl Kuki has *A LOT* on her plate because of him)

What’s the fuss about comship?

I have a genuine question. Like i looked up the definition of comship and if I’m correct, it’s apparently the belief that complex or toxic or illegal relationships can and should be depicted in media with the acknowledgment that they are not condoned.

So like…media is supposed to be analyzed, right? Disturbing, sad, toxic, or gross relationships between characters exist for a reason. To invoke an emotional reaction or deep discussion, or just to bring light.

Then why is it in people’s DNI lists?? Like I’m not trying to start drama or anything. I just don’t understand what the problem with finding interest in problematic media is. It SHOULD be depicted, right? That’s how we bring this stuff to light.

/genq

Special post for assholes like brightredsunset800.

I was called a pedo two times, maybe more. This is soooo crazy, right?

Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you've gone too far.

You should not be sending anon hate.

You should not be telling people to kill themselves.

You should not be contacting people's family members, job, or school.

You should not be sending people gore.

You should not be telling people that they deserve their trauma.

You should not be attacking people over liking something fictional. At that point, you're the problem. Not the person making things you don't like, YOU. Harassment is never acceptable.

Ship discourse is so insane. As long as they aren’t related and are around the same age (and consenting) who cares? Imagine being that upset over fictional people. Please go outside and interact with other people.

The rise of shipping discourse on tiktok is crazy... Like why are the satosugu shipper fighting with the gojohime shipper? Just coexist and respect each other? "B-b-but utahime hates gojo!" there's this thing called enemies to lovers...

Tiktok antis are getting WAY too comfortable with the insane stuff they say about proshippers

CW DEATH THREATS, JOKES OF VIOLENCE

Like what the hell makes them think that's okay??? And I hope these are just them trying to be funny cause I have known antis to send actual shit to proshippers.