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ASK ME ABOUT OTTO FROM THE SOUNDS OF LITTLE NIGHTMARES BY GOD I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIM.
I'm thinking I'm just gonna' make this entire tumblr sounds of nightmares centric because I've been listening to the podcast and drew otto a little bit, the first one is the final concept, the last two are scrapped ones, esp the third, baby face lookin ass !!
but hope y'all like this !!
genuinely I can't fanthom otto has nothing more than being an emotionally grieving individual whose too traumtized to realize what things he is doing to noon honestly. like he has already invested himself where he tries to remain professional but always crosses a line just for her and I feel like it isn't just because of what happened to cece but because of the fact on some level he sees' she is in the same situation and she is Slipping Away. and him going even ' I want to see it ' to find cece likely but also it's like. noon can disappear like cece and it is actively happening in front of his eyes.
and he is trying to give her coping techniques, the breathing, everything, it's showing that he does have a lot of care for noon but I don't think he knows really how to properly separate himself from the trauma because what happened is now involved in his work.
otto to me is so stuck in one part of his mind and you can see it because he was trying to calm down noon during her panic attack over rusty but throughout ALL of that, he was still wanting her to continue. and you know that had a strain because we didn't get the usual ' sweets for my sweet ' shit.
so to me, otto and noon need to repair what dynamic they have because it is getting worse the more these sessions go on. not just on otto's part but on noon's because she is right to be upset that he had ulterior motives and intentions, but he did open up and that is a step towards understanding and I just think they're so disconnected it is really hard for noon and otto to understand each other because one has an experience tied to their trauma and the other doesn't want to dwell so hard onto it to the point of going overboard and connecting with a world that actively scares her.
like. I just don't know, I can't see otto has being an ill-intent person in my eyes. like this entire bit just confirms to me how he feels. because he wouldn't treat noon like that if he didn't care.
" you were squeezing so tight " this man is genuinely scared about experiencing the same thing happening to one child to another and he can genuinely prevent it but he also wants to know more. and I think it is a thing of this man is grappling with trying to do both as if that is genuinely possible when it probably isn't.
I do think otto is really suspicious but I don't know, he seems like one of the few adults within the little nightmares world who CARES and that's important. but I feel like something IS going to happen that fucks him up majorly and he does become horrible in some way. like he is spiralling and you can tell. and noon is just someone who unfortunately is witnessing someone who wants to help her but needs an equal amount of help
figuring out this mans colors for this design concept is hard bro but also I just think purple as a total hue works, also the yellow eyes are fun to me but I would say it isn't like a constant thing, he probably has blue-ish gray eyes if we're real here
but more otto .. I'll do outfit concepts next prolly
am I really working on an animatic to do a tumblr request? yeah.. not a final outfitting for otto but it seemed the best if it was just a sweater + some lil' dangly scarf bits, noon is also in this but I need to work on some frames for her, I got a whole audio from chapter four so it'll be based in that if y'all are curious on that
( jerma vc ) OTTO ... otto oodle aka I wanted to put him in a ponytail and get a proper fix on his colors, also his white hairs go from small to big so that's my bad y'all it be the inconsistency
wips of otto and noone's refs ! some soft design notes OTTO DESIGN NOTES - I like to think the eye clothing is something he seemingly picked to try and be more connected to cece in some sense, a lot of spirals and areas were he is just littered in eyes that are scattered just as much as are his goals and motivations - his coat is meant to be a little too big for him, people theorize about the candleman / ferryman being like otto or that they're one in the same and while it is interesting, I like to think they're parallel to one another and I use that as a means of the coat being kind of like the candleman / ferryman's - mismatched sock supremacy !!!!!!! - broski carries sweets wherever he goes, I like to think he has a general sweet tooth because he kind of eats candies in the middle of the night while going over noone's session tapes, mans got have his girl dinner NOONE DESIGN NOTES - theys got a tooth gap because honestly with the way noone's voice actor speaks, I just think it's funky doo silly and makes it even more precious when she has moments where she smiles because you get to see her tooth gap reflect itself - traditional patient clothing but with a little more detail, just to make it kind of cozy + some shorts - I like to think she and otto have molees and that noone's moles are moreso on their legs or around their shoulders - dirty feet because you gotta be so real with me that noone just is an outside kid or likes to play with bugs or collects them like they explained with the moths so girlie is watching stick bugs dance you can't prove otherwise - and the scars are from nightmares, I like to think a little of the nowhere creeps up more than just mental / internal in them so it might've been from just times where nightmares got particularly difficult or she cut themselves at some points while running and otto often helped with cleaning up the scars / could be an accident from gardening or etc.
if anyone's got any questions abt their designs, lmk
otto doodle because I am really crazy about my fixation on him now huh also also a thing to kind of compare notes on his og doodle I did of him
there's no spotify song for it but this is an otto trust me bro ( source : I work at bandai namco /j )
Spoliers for episode 6
Spoliers for episode 6
Spoliers for episode 6
Spoliers for episode 6
What do you think of the counsellor? Have your opinions on him changed?
He is such an interesting character. I love him, but I hate him. I loathe him. He is terrible, despicable, but I can recognize his actions were out of grief and trauma.
“Please, I need to see my Sissy again.”
“I was only a boy”
“Do not go without me”
“Not again”
“She abandoned me, she wanted to get away from me. No, sissy did you abandoned me too? No, of course not, you wouldn’t have. You wouldn’t have! How could you leave your little brother behind? No, no, you wouldn’t have.”
That’s a very common theme in the series, how the adults constantly hurt the kids around them. Then how these kids grow up and hurt the kids, repeating the same cycles of their predecessors. I feel terrible for Noone, she was yet another victim in that terrible cycle, in that terrible world.
And this is super, super unlikely and I know many will disagree with me and I may be completely wrong, but I still think there’s still this very small possibility that The Counsellor may be Mono.
Noone: A yellow raincoat.
The Counsellor: Yellow? Was anyone around?
Interesting how the Yellow raincoat immediately picked his attention. Who was his sister, RCG? One of the ladies? Six? Someone we haven’t encountered yet? Who knows.
In the end I liked how they left the ending open (where did Noone go? Will we ever see her again?) and The counsellor’s identity ambiguous.
I hope you know I had so many thoughts I needed to make a document /lh /gen
but here you go !! I hope this is something people can understand because I'm working on a fast pace with my writing at the moment so some typos or grammar errors, and any clarification, you can give me a soft lil' ask on it ! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M41vWw3GWgsVhK2PEMDSrZss9rjhieDjEbHozyhhYgM/edit?usp=sharing
" my stone , my shield, my steady hand. hold your light, to the darkness in my head. put your ear to my heart or set your teeth against my throat. give me something to wear beneath my blood-stained clothes. my darling, the devil knows my name. " the garden by the crane wives
finished up a soft doodle of otto and I gotta' say the one thing I feel so kind of weirdly genius of is the idea on purple and yellow and figuring out that the rain coat girl is very much just cici / cece ( idk how to spell it ) makes me so fucking happy because I always intended otto's eyes to have the significant meaning of being really doodle-ish, like they're always frantic because he's looking for his sister. so I like to think now in his wardrobe he makes it a choice to wear yellow clothing because it gives him comfort. like his sister is still here even though she is very much Gone. that and yellow is often representative of many things but the big few for otto to me has always been cowardice, betrayal, caution, hope, philosophy, dishonesty, jealousy, covetousness, deceit, illness, hazard, and especially friendship and I'm latine and it's specifically a thing that bright marigold yellow is meant to be associated with death in some parts of mexico from what I read up on it. so, there is so much you could gage. also people talk about otto but y'all do realize this man might be german because otto is short for otfried or otmar. so, I'm now accepting that in my own headcanons of him ( yes I know cici is often short for cecilia which is a latin name in origin, but also in my hc given noone did point out that cici and otto looked NOTHING alike, it highly implies to my knowledge that otto is very much adopted )
this is one of the huge ass reasons I consider the ending of the sounds of nightmares to be so bad, not in terms of writing but for the characters because really, throughout the podcast, I feel like some people within the fandom forget WHY the ferryman to me, is justifiably hated not just because of the fact we're talking about how Otto's own, and likely only relative got taken from him at a young age causing extreme trauma but for as better as the nowhere seems in allowing kids the chance to defend themselves against monsters, there is this constant underlying theme and narrative throughout the dreams noone has where all the kids Die, like straight up just DIE and you see it time and time again because none of these children are equipped for this world they were pushed into, noone might've got here willingly but that doesn't mean others did and that's a heavy distinction whereas noone to me has no idea what she's walking into in a realistic sense. we've seen how the nowhere has the tendency to twist and morph these children, even turning them into monsters, it is not a safe place, it can be a place where noone gets to finally have their moment of complete health, of not feeling the effects of the water disease, the headaches, the tumor that grew into her head but remember it got there because of the nightmares, it looked like an eye, and to me that symbolises the simple fact the more noone would deny the nightmares, the more internally, they'd come for her, they would take away her health, to make her be manipulated into the idea that the nowhere is the safer option, and it also could've been a side effect of otto's meddling but I just don't believe that, up to this point, you can see that really, he's only trying to read her mind and the limits he takes with the experiments always goes to just wearing helmets, connecting things up to the brain, but never going as far as to push a boundary he at least knew would put noone off with the fact he didn't do tubes in her stomach or worse things like noone's old doctor, he denied her of her place to discuss her mental health and overall had major issues in his behaivor and as a whole just had been difficult with the truth, but you know to me, the best thing about otto in noone's circumstance is he at least, when it counted, respected her wishes, and that to me is really the most that could make me feel he still wanted to help her, in spite of the fact he was so stuck in his own ways. he wanted to help her for his own benefit, but he was still trying, and really, I can't blame otto for being at least distraught with noone when she did go, because if these nightmares indicate anything and also, take it into account that otto killed a moth, something noone loved and told him they had a fascination / fixation on, and all of the kids in the nightmares were constantly dying ( I include rusty in this ) so to some extent, to me, that symbolized one thing, noone accepting the nowhere was worse than any disease because she is actively engaging with potential death
Noone choosing to take the Ferryman's hand:
Imma be honest, I hate Noone for choosing the Ferryman but I still understand her choice. But still...
Basically Noone wanted to leave Otto so she can finally rest and not be experimented anymore, but as much as I understand her situation I still think that she shouldn't have second or triple thoughts about joining Nowhere. Like she literally saw children dying almost all the time and the adults are far, far, FAR worse than Otto.
Maybe if Noone really thought about it and notice that Otto was hurt by the Ferryman taking his sister, she could have realize that he is just as scared as her.
Also I NEVER believed that the Ferryman "saved" Noone at all! Cause base from the LN comics, he takes children away from the moment their life is in grave danger and comes in to the rescue to look like their savior then he takes them to the Maw which is where children are lock up, kept from escaping, getting killed, turned into the Guest's meal and turn into Nomes. The Ferryman is the bad guy here, yes Otto was bad but he would obviously lose his job and get arrested if he ever took it too far.
While in Nowhere, it's either get killed or kill to survive, Noone is obviously gonna regret chosing Nowhere, like Rusty and Low. She will try and find a way back to the real world, but the end will be ugly like with Rusty.
If I had to choose between getting experimented and lied to OR go into a world where everything and everyone is gonna kill you for their own needs no matter what, then I'll go with the experiments! What would you do?
And the Ferryman knew this would happen if he continue to appear in Noone's dream, making her think she'll be safe if she enters through Nowhere as a whole, if he continue to torment Otto by his riddles and signs of him taking Noone the same way he took his sister.
If Noone and Otto had just talked to each other, tell each other the truth about themselves, even ONE talk... They could have realize what they're doing, what they're thinking to do is wrong and how much the Ferryman messed with their mind! And Otto change his way of treatment, Noone being fully honest with herself and maybe, JUST maybe TSON could have a good ending.
like I always found it interesting that the one thing about the sounds of nightmares is that it always showed on some level every child noone met died and even when noone did finally meet someone who didn't die, the fairy, aka one of the nomes, that still at the end of the day, is a lesser version of who that nome was, who likely got turned into the lady and also makes me suspect whatever that one episode regarding it was, which I think was chapter five, had to be an area around the maw because the water and the idea of someone within the water makes me think of the granny to some extent so it could be connected to that but as a whole : the nowhere may seem like a safe place for noone but for so many people, it is not, and that is something to keep in mind and not forget because I feel like in forgetting, we do miss a larger point to be made especially in the idea that a lot of those kids, especially rusty, just wanted to get out.
I like to call this the wet dog circle, you see it's called that because all of these characters are my favorite characters in any media and they all range form incredibly endearing if not flawed and you wanna' give them a hug and hope the best for them to if I saw him across the street I would actually go and run him over with my car + ' WHERE IS MY LOVED ONE / FAMILY MEMBER ' truly, the paradox of dog
I like the idea of a young otto making so many attempts to try and come off as ' I am so very normal, I have never suffered any trauma ' and denying himself proper help from his colleagues, also short hair otto agenda because he either had it slicked back with gel or had it kind of fluffy and short but he just slowly stopped making proper attempts to style himself because it got to a point and if I wanna' be evil, I'd even say he grew his hair to be braided similar to the rain coat girl, because he missed his sister so much he adopted her traits subconsciously
wip but on god, drawing otto after so long of not doing so is so weird