Astrology Observations

Astrology Observations

water sign edition

I know when astrologers discuss manipulation, Scorpio is the first to come up. But Cancer Mars can easily take the spot of the most manipulative sign placement. If poorly aspected, cancer mars can possibly use their sweet nature to gaslight you (without even realizing it a lot of the time). I am a Libra mars and I got into a fight with a cancer mars a while back and... I do pride myself for being diplomatic especially when disagreeing with friends and they were being so mean to a mutual friend. So I was “hey you really need to stop like that’s not cool you’re making them upset.” and THEY STARTED BALLING their literal eyes out and made it about them… I was like??? I set a boundary with you?? They also had significant Aries placements and I never got to look deeper into their chart so I’m not sure why that was for them. This is an extreme example ofc, so this isn’t always the case for this placement. Cancer mars can just get really emotional when angry which I understand because I’m a cancer AC and I can cry when I get mad, not out of manipulation just like my feelings get too overwhelming or I might quite literally feel ashamed and be really hard on myself. Cancer mars is also really protective over the people they care about like Mama Bear level. They are a water sign though so they can just be moody and hold resentments/not fully express their feelings. Cancers in general are just like so cute though it’s hard to stay mad at them.

Maybe I’m biased, but I love water sign ACs. Like Scorpio, Cancer, and Pisces AC are just look so dreamy. Especially Scorpio and Pisces like they just look like heart breakers in the best way. And a lot of times they are really nice! People are always so shocked by Scorpio AC too because they can seem really intimidating but then usually they want to talk about deep stuff with you and like really care about what you have to say. Of course this all depends on what is aspecting the AC, but I’ve had pretty good associations with water ACs.

A lot of people are super afraid of the 12H because of the potential problems that it can cause in the chart but the 12H is so cool! The 12H is ruled by Pisces, so I thought it fitting to talk about! This is the house of endings, but that’s not always a bad thing! Endings mean that you can make room for what better serves you. This house is also super helpful for finding out everything that could be hiding from you or eluding you. This means you can find your potential hidden enemies and having personal placements in the 12H can point to you being extremely intuitive or psychic. Just like Scorpio needs to master how to best control their passion which will unlock their power, Pisces/12H dominants just need to master their intuition so they can unlock their power of defeating deception.

Scorpio Moons get too much shit. It’s really time to stop perpetuating that narrative. Scorpio is just as weak in the Moon placement as Libra is in Mars. Everyone has challenges in their chart ppl! I’m sorry if you were ever slighted by a manipulative scorpio moon, I really am. But scorpio moons that have put in the work are so powerful, confident, and extremely accommodating and loyal to those that they give their love to. And I swear some of you will hate on scorpio moons while you have an 8th house moon or a poorly aspected moon yourself…

That’s all for now~

Why as an 8th house native I no longer believe that "the world is a wonderful place".

Having moon and venus in 8th house and being Scorpio ascendant, I have a crazy emotional world. Extreme sensitivity to tone, words, behaviour; dread betrayal, deception and pretentious behaviour and my own obsessions and ruminations that are that of Borderline Personality Disorder.

8th house not just brings extreme emotions but also extreme, sudden, unexpected, out of nowhere, "what just happened" type of twists and turns to life. When I say extreme, I mean my parent dealing with life threatening disease type of extreme. I don't remember ever having a smooth year in life; every single year of my life so far has been bearer of life changing transformations. Sudden downfall and sudden improvement, just like that.

Me being scientific and atheistic had a love-hate relationship with occult. I was embarrassed to admit that I began exploring astrology as a child. Being judged and called superstitious, backward, uneducated, not modern -- I refrained from using occult to research my life issues but secretly had a fascination and strong attraction to occult subjects naturally. For a long time, I kept doubting myself why would I believe in astrology? And dismissing myself by saying "it is just coincidence, it is just science, there is no mystical meaning involved" and fear of being ridiculed and memified by people, I repressed my occultist desires.

Over the last 4 years, life showed many revelations to me. First, my perception of the world was distorted. I was damn emotional and naive. I was surrounded by narcissists and sociopaths, and oh - I was a people pleaser! It is different than movies. In movies we clearly know who is the protagonist and who is the villain but in real life the evil villains pretend to be heroes. It felt so unfair and unjust. When I could no longer change the outer situations, I was compelled to change my inner life. The only path left to me was to do my own shadow work and to do self realization.

I recall a movie "In this corner of the world" in which Suzu deals with many misfortunes in the event of war and bomb attacks in Japan. She loses her brother, her right hand, her niece, houses around them are shattered, they take shelter underground to protect from bombs, there was shortage of food groceries, they were always afraid of bomb raids and warnings, always afraid of next attack, trying to help those wounded, trying to keep shelter from problems - buckets of water to relinquish the fires, tired and exhausted and frustrated by problems they did not choose but are forced upon them by fate. Her parents die eventually and sister is sick from side effects of bomb. When everything is chaotic, people console themselves by looking at the bright side of life in any way possible. "I am glad... things are not as bad", say people around her. Suzu says to herself  "I don't know what I should be glad about." Suzu goes from a smiling, happy-go-lucky girl who tries to make the best out of a bad situation, to a stone-faced, emotional wreck who can no longer find happiness in life. In the end, she finds "acceptance". Just acceptance of whatever happened. Made peace with her past.

Reference: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TearJerker/InThisCornerOfTheWorld

Life lessons I have learned so far:

You are not supposed to connect with everyone. You are not supposed to befriend everyone. You dont like everyone, not everyone will like you.

Build strong sense of self. Be mentally and emotionally strong. I personally use Stoicism for the tools to manage my life. If you are a water dominant native, dont exist without emotional shield.

Humans work on a pattern. Identify the pattern, predict the reaction, it is easy to read people once you know how people think and feel.

You do need a little bit of external validation, external approval, narcissism. I isolate myself out of fear that I will be hurt emotionally, but i cannot live in isolation. I have to put myswlf out there. This is important for my spiritual growth.

Toxic people are everywhere. Accept this and move on with your life, albeit you become toxic yourself. If you always gossip about toxic people, whats the difference between you and them?

Have courage to assert boundaries. Have self confidence. Toxic people run a mile from you when they see they cannot influence you, you are not gullible, you wont buy their bullshit. It is as simple as that.

Do not be doormat. If you have trauma, take your time to heal it. Unhealed trauma is invitation letter to emotional predators. They can sniff it from your energy and vibes that you are vulnerable.

Forgiveness is powerful. It cuts the cords between you and your abuser. It is not my task to punish or teach lessons to bad people. It is God's work. Dont take system in your hands.

For all my trauma survivors, put a plug into your trauma wounds. Dont leave your wounds in open. If you do, predators will leech off you and you wont even realize. I picture a traumatized person like someone with nails buried in their chest. Healing means to take out each nail, let the blood and pus flow out, feel the pain and shame it brings, start healing those wounds and finally put some wax on those remaining holes. Do not expose your wounds otherwise more bad people will spot them and use them to hurt you.

Finally, create a life for yourself. I ruminated a lot on how bad people work. I delved into victim mentality until it got boring. It was much more fun to build a new life for myself and my loved ones. Build a new way of life. Build a new identity. This is the gift of venus in 8th house. To create a new lifestyle. To settle after storm.

The number of people I have seen with Saturn in 9th house and PhD holders is just so consistent.

Sigmund Freud, Carl Sagan, Martin Luther King Jr all have saturn in 9th house and held PhD.

Carl Sagan also had sun, mercury, venus and jupiter in 6th house which is such a strong combination for someone in STEM.

Sun in Aries in many cases shows someone who is in engineering field or gifted in mathematics.

8th house placements show definite interest and understanding of analytical psychology. Carl Jung had sun in 8th house in Cancer. Wonder how he explored the world of depth psychology?

What is Fate?

When we hear of 8th house in astrology, we often hear of "fate", but the question comes what is fate? What exactly is fate? Here trying to think about it:

Fate is something that the native did not intend to happen but it happens anyway = this is why it is called inevitable. Intention leads to thought which leads to action (even if you are not self aware, this is how we work).

Native was preoccupied with some other goal but something else happens that changes the track of life. This is why it feels predetermined.

Any event that drastically changes the life path or/and character of the native. Like a toxic relationship that changes you forever

Free will feels like = I intended it to happen so it happened. But fate feels like = I did not intend this but we are dealing anyway.

Like I was intending X to happen but instead Y happened.

Extremes of good luck (fortune) and/or bad luck (doom) is definitely fate. For eg, suddenly losing loved one/a job. Suddenly gaining a lot of inheritance/a lot of money in lottery/marrying to a rich spouse.

Fate is things which are beyond human control = A deadly cancer tha does not cure. Marrying into royal family. Being born in a rich parents house.

As for the question whether destiny applies to everyone or some people have free will, I don't know really. Some people do seem to have their life under control so their perception is that they have free will. Some people do seem to have bouts of twists and turns so their perception is that life is fated. Not everyone faces extreme events or feelings (8th house placements) so they cannot empathize with others. While some like 8th housers or mature scorpio people feel their feelings too intensely so they can empathize with the dark themes in life. In these subjective perceptions, the objective truth gets lost. Or like Nietzsche said "there are no facts, only interpretations".

As for question if life is predetermined or random or future is not certain yet or future is already happening, again questions are too many. We can hypothesize, believe, hope, experience, debate but the answer is as uncertain as "what happens after death?" "why I was born?" "what makes me, me?" Some intuitive and psychic abilities people tell that we are born to pay off our karmic debts and settle past life accounts. Some say that we keep taking birth in similar family like your brother was your father in past life, your mother was wife etc. Some say that life is complicated than that, the stranger is the bus was your mother in past life, the past life husband is someone you do not even know in this life etc. Some say that we choose our own parents, hardships, life plan, life events before birth. Some try to explain with science that everything that happens in nature is in chain reaction caused by previous triggers. Some explain with psychology that feelings, thoughts, beliefs cause our actions. Some explain with philosophy that determinism is the causal link between action and the outcome of events.

As for question, should 8th housers be depressed and sad because of fated events? No. You could choose to stay depressed and victimized but it is not very good for mental health. It is the law of nature to construct after destruction. It sounds rude to say this to someone who is clearly going through a tough time but look deep within yourself and you will see that little feeling of "influence". This is I think why 8th house is also concerned with psychology. When you study psychology and self introspection yourself, you realize that even in the face of the most painful misfortune, there is some influence that we have. Yes my dear, you read it right. It sounds pretentious to say this because depression is really tough to handle. When you are going through a tough time, things don't make sense, mind stops working, no ideas make sense. If you stick it out and come alive on the other side, you would feel something within you. That inner strength. That inner power. That peace. That ability to handle the next misfortune. That numbness of emotions. Ability to rationalize intense feelings. This little thing is perhaps what we call the essence of life.

Hi there.

In that one post you talked about 8th houser girls and that they should beware of older men and so.

Can you define older?

Like whats the line?

Thanks and have a great day😇

Hi. Honestly, there is no one parameter

My mom is 8th houser who married 9 year her senior. My dad is 8th houser who married 9 year his junior. I cannot comment on their married life because I have no business in that.

I am 8th houser and was involved with a 10 year senior who was my biggest mistake. I also have Saturn in 5th, so that might have something to do with it.

What I meant to say was that young 8th houser people have an intense emotional life. Since it is a water house, there is a sort of introverted, feeler type, tolerant energy in them. They tolerate a lot rather than asserting boundaries. Since their life path is also full of ups and downs, they are confused juggling between their emotions and life problems. "Whether I deal with my negative emotions or deal with this sudden career problem or do both?"

In situations like these, we naturally seek support system, someone to hold our hand. Young girls in general and 8th houser in particular have little life experience, almost always daddy issues, low standards in people especially men because they did not have ideal Male role models, do not know their self worth because they were always doing emotional work for others and are gullible because their irrational mind clouds their rational mind.

For eg, "why will this dude say he loves me when we met 1 week back?" A rational girl will say: bullshit, he is manipulating me, no time for players heh. Whereas an irrational 8th houser girl will say: oh my prince charming, my hero, yes I trust you, so this is love uhuhuhu.... love me like you do lalala.

Of course, if the other planets support therapy, other life experiences and maturity, she will not fall into such situations. Boys your age dont have as much experience in manipulation but the older men know just the right thing to say. This is just a warning not a rule. I have read that as a rule you should not date someone older than 5 years when you are young. As you get older, you can raise the age bar only if you trust what you are doing. Even then, life happens. 8th house is unpredictable events. Life is unpredictable anyway :)