I Just Saw That Reblog From Through-thick-and-quinn And I Have To Wonder, Gee, If It's That Bad To Wake

I just saw that reblog from through-thick-and-quinn and I have to wonder, gee, if it's that bad to wake up every day stressed to the pits, wouldn't they NOT want people everywhere else to feel like that? Awareness =/= getting treated like you can't escape stressful things, which to understate, is technically the same unfortunate situation some groups are in right now. No, nowhere near the same magnitude, only the former really involves the chance of imminent death and such, but still stressful. Sentence still applies.

Honestly you could scroll through any of the reblogs and replies and tags on that post and wonder how the fuck some of those people haven't dropped dead from stress and fear yet.

Frankly if I forced myself to live the way some of those people are, I'd have been institutionalized a long time ago. And that's not a commented intended disrespectfully at anyone's genuine attempts to be a good person or make a change; its an honest to god observation.

I cannot imagine a life where I wake up every single day and force myself to spend almost every waking moment entrenched in war and dead bodies and human trafficking and starving animals and pollution and every other world and social issue that is festering at any given moment.

I really, really can't.

We actually are in the era where we're so offended by everything we're getting offended on other peoples' behalf and telling them that they're wrong if they're not personally offended by something.

I was in a Black Butler themed proship Discord server. I've been trying to write dark romance novels with very dark taboo themes (proship aligned), and wanted to share my content for it on the server, but I was told not to do it.

This made me think about creating a space for proship novel writers and authors but I haven't done it yet because I don't know if anyone is interested...

Do you think it'd be a good idea? And if so, would you promote it?

Its not uncommon for servers that are based in fandom to disallow original content, so I wouldn't take that too personally. I'm in a few servers where you can talk about the ship or the fandom all you like, but other fandoms and original works are barred.

For my opinion on the proposal; I think it would be a good idea, yes. Unfortunately, you'll need to be quite vigilant about monitoring it and keeping an eye on the people within. "Dark romance" is yet another subject rotten to the core by TikTok. Manipulation and gaslighting and abuse are sexy, apparently, but incest is where a lot of them draw the line. Its likely that even in a "proship aligned" space, you'll get a lot of people who are victim to the mindset of only certain things being acceptable.

My advice would be to not rush into it. Spend a good while setting the server up, deciding on the rules, what scope you want it to have, what size is manageable for you (e.g; do you want a large public server? A smaller, invite-only server? What can you realistically handle moderating?) and so forth.

As for promoting it, give me a tour once its all set up and if I think its at the point where its sustainable and well equipped to survive, I'll definitely help to promote it and give it some reach.

I know this is probably a wild generalization, but I don’t know if I can be in a community if they’re gonna say it’s okay for an adult in their 20s to write erotic fanfiction about a REAL 16 year old and a 20 year old. I understand fictional characters, because they’re not real, but RPF of minors seems like another thing completely.

I'm personally not invested in or interested in RPF of minors, but frankly the literal core value of proshipping is simply not inserting yourself into what other people do in terms of fiction, so.

You can disagree with it all you like, it doesn't necessarily make you 'not proship' as long as you're not sending people hate or trying to tell them they can't do it. There are plenty of people who are proship who draw a personal line at RPF involving minors. I know people who enjoy RPF of all ages but draw the line at topics like non-con when it pertains to those people/ships.

If it makes you feel any better, the anti community also, in a wild generalization, weaponizes rape videos and literal child pornography, believes in doxxing and stalking, supports suicide baiting and hounding.... Really, on each side there's the bad and ugly. Being proship doesn't strictly mean you enjoy or even condone or are invested in common themes and subjects under the 'protection' of the label. You're not a more morally clean or good person for being on either side.

Being proship simply means you know they're going to do it, you at least somewhat respect their right to do it, and you're not going to tell them to kill themselves over it.

Which honestly, feel like pretty basic requirements of critical thinking and human decency. As I said, I'm not invested in RPF about minors, but I simply curate my online space so I don't see it.

(Also, RPF is fictional still. Its quite literally in the name. Real person fiction.)

Anyone else feel like God when they write something particularly dramatic sometimes?

Sometimes when I know I've just ruined someone's day by not taking their moral sword waving seriously I feel like a godly little creature looking down upon mere creatures.

Other times I mostly feel like a haggard little swamp creature hissing at people and chewing philosophical debates into the walls.

With RPF isn’t it taking away the whole “profiction” thing away since it’s real people and not fiction anymore? (Genuine question, this isn’t hate btw)

The thing about RPF is that whatever you create with it is still fictional.

You can fantasise all you want about Henry Cavill crushing your head with his thighs, but its still a fantasy. Even if you turn that fantasy into a story, its still fictional. There's a reason its called real person fiction.

When we create stories and art about real people, we're basically just using that person as a blueprint base for a character we're creating and controlling. While we like to think we know everything about a celebrity, we don't. We see what they allow us to see by a vast majority, and a lot of the time famous people also create public personas. We make them think and act in ways which are conducive to our plots and intentions.

It can definitely be confusing to try and parse, but generally I think of it this way:

I'm using the real person as a pre-made character.

Although what I'm creating is fictional, I'm still using a real person's life and likeness to create it.

It can be discomforting to read about "yourself" doing certain things, so for the comfort of all involved, its simply best not to deliberately try to expose the real people to what I've created.

I wholly respect people who don't create RPF out of consideration for the real people involved, but at the end of the day I will still defend RPF's categorisation, proper conduct and right to exist.