I Think Maybe You Should Get A Hobby Instead Of Discussing To Teens And Middle Aged Adults On Why Writing

I think maybe you should get a hobby instead of discussing to teens and middle aged adults on why writing a fic about a 5 year old and their 50 year old dad based on real people is a-okay. Just food for thought maybe.

Bland, uninteresting, nutritionless food. Basically dirt. Actually; dirt has more nutrients.

Also; you aren't automatically ejected from fandom spaces after you hit the middle ages. Education and fun aren't age restricted.

(Kudos to the guy who made a kid at 45 though. A* for his dedication.)

@lesbianmaxevans

For some reason Tumblr doesn't want to let me reblog my post with your (ridiculous) edition, so my apologies but this will have to suffice.

Firstly; you're incorrect on both counts. Foremost that I'm exclusively talking about CSA pornography, and secondmost that I'm talking about CSA pornography at all.

Namely because CSA pornography refers exclusively to the actual pornographic depiction of the sexual abuse of real children. As in, photos, videos and documentation. All of which are also, unsurprisingly, against AO3's policy regardless of also being against the law.

Now, sweeping aside your reduction and scapegoating of pedophilia, what I am actually talking about in this post is anti-censorship.

As in, the thing that makes shows like Game of Thrones, Sherlock Holmes, ect possible. The thing that makes all those fun books like Shadow Hunters and all those Taiwanese queer shows and even your nude art, horror art and so forth possible.

When I talk about the purges of fandom-based sites like LiveJournal and Wattpad I'm not talking about purging fanfiction of forty-year old men rawdogging toddlers.

I'm talking about queer content. Murder mysteries. Survivor stories. All of which were purged in excess from those websites to satisfy investors and religious radicals and people like you.

I highly recommend looking into just how many websites have banned even the mention of same-sex couples or activity in order to 'not offend anyone.'

All of that said;

Yes, additionally, I also advocate for the protection and preservation of content that would fall under the bracket of explicit across a number of subjects including but not limited to:

Pornography involving fictional characters who are minors/below the local age of consent.

Depictions of rape not strictly limited to survivor retellings or condemnation.

Depictions of murder both for plot and just for funsies.

Depictions of age gaps including but not limited to involving fictional minors.

Unhealthy relationships including between employees and employers, villains and heroes, ect.

And much more!

But, by all means. Reduce anti-censorship and an entire generational effort of activism to just 'CSA pornography.'

This just in: antis bullied a rape survivor into closing down an internationally renowned website.

Censorship is the bane of all humanity.

Celebrities are aware that certain content about them exists.

They're also aware of where it exists.

They know to avoid it.

Your job is to make sure it stays in those places with the appropriate tags/warnings so they can.

I promise you, most celebrities don't think about that kind of thing beyond 'I don't want to see it, so I don't look for it."

And they'd think about it even less if you stopped asking them their opinion on it.

I'd really like to address the Jaws part of this, because I actually have a post regarding that in my drafts ready to go, but OP makes a very valid, brilliant statement:

It didn't cause shark attacks to rise. It caused fear.

Jaws had no actual impact on sharks in terms of what the sharks did. Jaws didn't inherently increase the danger level of sharks. That stayed exactly the same. Sharks did as they've always done; existed in the ocean and occasionally hunted food that turned out to be a person. Because they're sharks and we chose to be thrashing, yummy prey in their natural habitat.

What Jaws did cause is a widespread misconception about that danger. Which resulted in voluntary human action. We, as people, actively chose to decide this risk factor was suddenly tenfold, and we had to mitigate it by immediately going out and killing as many sharks as we possibly could to reduce it again.

Except. It never changed. Because again; the risk was always exactly the same. And likewise; it didn't actually remove the risk at all. There's still sharks. We're still going in the ocean.

You choose to swim in the ocean, there might be hungry sharks that mistake you for brunch.

And that's not even touching on other arguments like intent and indirect influence.

I just feel like Pete Davidson’s SNL monologue shows the whole proshipping discourse boiled down to the most fundament difference between pros and antis.

Because like.

We have his sister, sitting down to watch GoT with him, and she is a person who has a very clear understanding of fiction vs reality. So when Pete starts getting all puritanical over how the villains are twincesting right in front of their eyes, she’s just like “well, it’s not real, you know.” And he jokes that he’s thinking “am I about to bang this chick?”

That is a direct quote from him, btw.

So there we have it. Sister understands that GoT is fiction, and that fucked up things happening in the fiction we consume does not mean we want to do those fucked up things. And Pete goes “oh, she’s ok with fictional incest in a TV show, clearly my sister would want to fuck me.”

And I get it, it’s a joke. But it’s a joke that so clearly shows the disconnect all this shipping discourse and dark themes in fiction discourse and… and it’s just. That disconnect.

And I don’t know if the antis will ever wrap their minds around “fiction isn’t reality” and before anyone brings up Jaws let me say I KNOW. But also: Jaws didn’t cause shark attacks to rise. It caused fear. Which is what a scary movie is supposed to do. It did it well because thalassophobia is fucking real. Not because sharks are wanton killing machines. Because it was tapping into a primal fear that most of us experience to some level.

And you people call pro-shippers unhinged and depraved and immoral. You chose to stalk her and expose yourself to her content. You are the only foul person to blame in this situation.

For both your sakes, just change groups and pretend she doesn't exist. She has every right to do as she pleases on her personal devices, and you have every right to not interact with her.

And on a personal note? I hope she finds this post and reports you.

There is a pro shit weirdo assigned to be in my group for a project in one of my grad school classes. I could scream. I know she's a pro shit because she writes on Ao3 during class. I managed to snag her user and it is something else! And not in a good way.

At this point, Imma just smile and nod. I don't have the energy to confront her, but I literally would not care if she died in a car crash.