I'd Really Like To Address The Jaws Part Of This, Because I Actually Have A Post Regarding That In My

I'd really like to address the Jaws part of this, because I actually have a post regarding that in my drafts ready to go, but OP makes a very valid, brilliant statement:

It didn't cause shark attacks to rise. It caused fear.

Jaws had no actual impact on sharks in terms of what the sharks did. Jaws didn't inherently increase the danger level of sharks. That stayed exactly the same. Sharks did as they've always done; existed in the ocean and occasionally hunted food that turned out to be a person. Because they're sharks and we chose to be thrashing, yummy prey in their natural habitat.

What Jaws did cause is a widespread misconception about that danger. Which resulted in voluntary human action. We, as people, actively chose to decide this risk factor was suddenly tenfold, and we had to mitigate it by immediately going out and killing as many sharks as we possibly could to reduce it again.

Except. It never changed. Because again; the risk was always exactly the same. And likewise; it didn't actually remove the risk at all. There's still sharks. We're still going in the ocean.

You choose to swim in the ocean, there might be hungry sharks that mistake you for brunch.

And that's not even touching on other arguments like intent and indirect influence.

I just feel like Pete Davidson’s SNL monologue shows the whole proshipping discourse boiled down to the most fundament difference between pros and antis.

Because like.

We have his sister, sitting down to watch GoT with him, and she is a person who has a very clear understanding of fiction vs reality. So when Pete starts getting all puritanical over how the villains are twincesting right in front of their eyes, she’s just like “well, it’s not real, you know.” And he jokes that he’s thinking “am I about to bang this chick?”

That is a direct quote from him, btw.

So there we have it. Sister understands that GoT is fiction, and that fucked up things happening in the fiction we consume does not mean we want to do those fucked up things. And Pete goes “oh, she’s ok with fictional incest in a TV show, clearly my sister would want to fuck me.”

And I get it, it’s a joke. But it’s a joke that so clearly shows the disconnect all this shipping discourse and dark themes in fiction discourse and… and it’s just. That disconnect.

And I don’t know if the antis will ever wrap their minds around “fiction isn’t reality” and before anyone brings up Jaws let me say I KNOW. But also: Jaws didn’t cause shark attacks to rise. It caused fear. Which is what a scary movie is supposed to do. It did it well because thalassophobia is fucking real. Not because sharks are wanton killing machines. Because it was tapping into a primal fear that most of us experience to some level.

Because pornography is still plot. Plot is merely the actual storytelling part of writing something. Plot is what happens within the story.

If my plot is the fact that my fourteen year old character rides my fifty year old character (hello, Starker) off into the sunset like the Lone Ranger's Silver, then that is the plot of my story.

What matters is that in real life, if I discovered a fourteen year old was sexually involved with a fifty year old, I would call the police.

Because one is fictional and one isn't. And we're capable of separating the fact that something that's enjoyable in concept isn't necessarily enjoyable (or morally sound) in reality.

imo theres a HUGE difference between writing incest and pedophilia as part of a story's plot and writing incest csa erotica, but coincidentally proshippers always seem to cite well known and popular stories that fall into the first category as reasons to be proship while they themselves always seem to write and indulge in the second category. why are those two things assumed to be comparable at all. theyre really not.

Celebrities are aware that certain content about them exists.

They're also aware of where it exists.

They know to avoid it.

Your job is to make sure it stays in those places with the appropriate tags/warnings so they can.

I promise you, most celebrities don't think about that kind of thing beyond 'I don't want to see it, so I don't look for it."

And they'd think about it even less if you stopped asking them their opinion on it.

And you people call pro-shippers unhinged and depraved and immoral. You chose to stalk her and expose yourself to her content. You are the only foul person to blame in this situation.

For both your sakes, just change groups and pretend she doesn't exist. She has every right to do as she pleases on her personal devices, and you have every right to not interact with her.

And on a personal note? I hope she finds this post and reports you.

There is a pro shit weirdo assigned to be in my group for a project in one of my grad school classes. I could scream. I know she's a pro shit because she writes on Ao3 during class. I managed to snag her user and it is something else! And not in a good way.

At this point, Imma just smile and nod. I don't have the energy to confront her, but I literally would not care if she died in a car crash.

Omegle is dead. RIP to a generational gem.

For those of you who used it for fandom roleplay, EmeraldChat is a good, similar alternative. You can add interests in the same way, and there are additional options like sending images and saving chats.

i’m not pro-ship or anti-ship i am simply anti-censorship. i also believe that the owner of an online space can choose what they allow to be uploaded to that space. these are thoughts that can coexist.