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Let’s be very clear about something: cutting Nettles from the show (if the rumors are true) is not to preserver team black and for the sake of Daemon. Team black and Daemon have nothing to do with this. Cutting Nettles from the show benefits one character and one character only: Rhaenyra Targaryen.
I saw this argument being brought up by Team Green fans and while I think they have better takes than Team Black fans overall, their hate towards Daemon really blinds them to certain points of the narrative.
Again, is not for the sake of Daemon that Nettles might be out of the show, is for the sake of Rhaneyra. Nettles actually opens the door to Daemon’s “light side” since his actions towards her are the only good deeds he can claim sort of (even if people consider it grooming, it’s a fact he cared about her in ways he didn’t care about other people, he was willing to fight an entire castle when he thought she was going to be executed because of Rhaenyra’s orders and Caraxes reaction clearly shows how much he was feeling about them having to separate).
But when it comes to Rhaenyra, Nettles being part of the story means Rhaenyra being racist and classicist and ordering her death. Nettles, if adapted faithfully, had everything to become a fan favorite. That would make Rhaenyra look bad. And they can’t have that, because she’s girl boss feminist queen fighting for women’s rights 🫠. So the best solution in their mind is to cut off the canonically black character so then Rhaneyra can be propped up, and it’s fine right since they racebent the velaryons, so the diversity quota for them is already through the roof, there’s no need for more black characters, especially one who can taint Rhaenyra’s image.
If nettles is not adapted, it has nothing to do with Daemon as a sole character. It’s a bit about the daemyra ship but mainly about Rhaenyra. If nettles is cut from the show, is for the sake of a white woman not being seen as the racist she is.
“Although (Elizabeth of York) was presented as the ultimate Tudor trophy wife, her position and popularity were potential threats to her husband’s authority.” - Lauren Rose Browne
*sigh*
When are we going to move past this dismissive, simplistic and frankly rather problematic image of Elizabeth of York? Derek Neal encapsulates what exactly is so troubling about it far better than I could, which I'm quoting below:
“The first Tudor consort is mainly remembered as a dynastic symbol, one element of an equation: York plus Tudor equals peace. In this interpretation, handed down to us by the Tudor chroniclers via Shakespeare, Elizabeth accomplished her most important work, if not without lifting a finger, merely by proffering a finger for a wedding ring.”
We need to stop defining Elizabeth of York by the basic purpose of her marriage and queenship and begin understanding her through the actual practice of her queenship.*
Because the fact of the matter is, Elizabeth of York was a tremendously successful queen. She was an able intercessor, an active administrator of her lands, and a patroness in her own right. We have evidence that Henry listened to her on matters that people often assume he acted alone or only through his mother's advice. She contributed culturally to the court, including festivities and building projects, and played an active and positive role in queenly diplomacy, including but not limited to her involvement in her sisters’ and children’s marriages, her correspondence with the Pope and foreign rulers, and receiving important ambassadors in her husband’s absence**. She may have some discreet influence in some appointments in the Crown Prince's household. In short, Elizabeth of York excelled in spheres of queenship that were both conventional and powerful, because the two could and did co-exist, because medieval queenship was inherently political and the lines between public and private were blurred to the point of non-existence for queens just as they were for kings. As we can clearly see, Elizabeth was not presented as a “trophy wife” any more than literally any queen consort before or after her; she was, in fact, an evidently active and influential queen who greatly inspired both her daughter and her daughter-in-law's queenships respectively.
Furthermore, Elizabeth of York’s position was not a "threat" to her husband. Not at all. As J.L. Laynesmith (whose reading of Elizabeth I don't agree with either) says, "Identification with Elizabeth of York's kin aided Henry VII in gaining an entire kingdom." The Croyland Chronicle, a contemporary source, likewise emphasizes her importance in cementing Henry VII's position: in Elizabeth "there could be found whatever appeared to be missing in the king's title elsewhere." Elizabeth of York's position, in fact, bolstered Henry VII's kingship, and this extended far beyond his marriage to her. We must remember that while Henry Tudor was Lancastrian in blood and allegiance, his fight for the throne was very much as a Yorkist claimant - specifically, a claimant for Edwardian Yorkists against Richard III's rule (The events of 1483 were a violent conflict within the Yorkist dynasty, not an external threat against the Yorkist dynasty). You could argue that Henry VII's road to the throne was, effectively, as Edward IV's symbolic heir rather than Henry VI's (who was quite irrelevent to the current conflict, tbh): Henry Tudor was the prospective husband of the Yorkist heiress and the 'avenger' of the dead Yorkist Princes. This was the widely recognized interpretation of contemporaries like Croyland and William Caxton*** and was also how he gained the majority of his new support which (without discounting his own initiative, actions and clear competence) were essential to both make him a credible threat and ultimately win Bosworth. He relied on several of her father's former councilors as well, ensuring a great deal of continuity between their reigns. In this context, Elizabeth of York's "position" as the Yorkist heiress, cemented by her formal proclamation as Duchess of York, was not a disadvantage to Henry VII but an indispensable advantage to him. Elizabeth herself was aware of this and played an important role in image politics for the new Tudor dynasty: "Her role as a daughter of the house of York was a major aspect of her identity. Whereas her mother and Margaret of Anjou had adopted emblems personal to them...Elizabeth of York used her father's white rose. Other Yorkist emblems such as the sun in splendour and the falcon and fetterlock were also used in Tudor iconography." As you can see, Elizabeth's contribution went far beyond merely standing at Henry's side with a wedding ring; she was actively involved in cementing the image of the Tudor dynasty in her own right, and was equally invested in doing so. In short: Elizabeth of York's "position" was not a threat to her husband’s rule; it was vital to her husband’s rule. In fact, her unique position was so important that, years later, post-contemporary Tudor depictions gave her a uniquely equal footing to her husband: for example, in the first pageant of the coronation procession for her granddaughter Elizabeth I, Elizabeth of York was depicted as "a stabilising and legitimising force of the dynasty, and, incredibly, as the equal to her husband" - as Lauren Rose Browne herself writes.
You cannot claim that Henry VII needed Elizabeth of York to bolster his kingship and also claim that he shunted her aside because her position was a threat to his kingship. You cannot claim that Henry VII used Elizabeth of York’s Yorkist heritage to his benefit but also claim that he tried to avoid any implication of her royal inheritance. Those are fundamentally contradictory and make very little sense. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Even more baffling is the idea that Elizabeth of York's "popularity" would have somehow been a threat to her husband's authority. She and Henry lived in a world where queens were meant to embody "the feminine element necessary to legitimate sovereignty", to perform their role as Marian-like intercessors on behalf of their subjects, to engage in appropriate charity and almsgiving, and to provide "models of womanhood for the realms' female subjects"****. If Elizabeth of York was "popular" due to the reaction of crowds gathered to watch her coronation, or because of the gifts she was frequently given by her subjects, or because she was hailed as the "most gracious and best beloved Princesses in the world" after her death, her popularity means that Elizabeth was successful as queen and is an indication of how much her queenship supported and endorsed Henry VII's kingship. A popular queen benefitted the King, not the other way around.*****
(What's especially funny about this traditional interpretation is that the only actual way Elizabeth of York's position and popularity could potentially worry Henry and become a genuine "threat" to his authority is if Elizabeth herself was actively opposed to Henry and was using them against him to undermine his rule (for whatever hypothetical reason). Which would automatically indicate agency on her part and ALSO end up contradicting the "trophy wife" image. So....?)
Enough with the traditional patronizing dismissal of Elizabeth of York. Give her the credit she's due.
*What's particularly silly about hyper-focusing on the point/purpose of Elizabeth of York's marriage (a political alliance and dynastic unification) is that fundamentally, its purpose was ultimately no different from the vast majority of other English royal marriage since the Norman conquest (sans, say, her parents'). Most of them were politically arranged and/or politically motivated, just like Henry and Elizabeth's. It would be ridiculous to judge Isabella of France or Philippa of Hainault's lives and queenships solely based on how politically important their marriages were, right? They obviously had an impact apart from that and beyond that. What exactly is different about Elizabeth of York? Admittedly, her and Henry's situation wasn't exactly the same: he needed her as a potential bride to cement his position as a threat to Richard III and as a King of England; and an English princess becoming an English queen consort was unprecedented at that juncture. But ultimately, there's no reason for why Elizabeth of York's entire life and queenship should be defined and decided on the basis of how and why she married Henry VII. She lived for almost two decades after that. It's more than a little frustrating.
**From what I can make out, so much more evidence has luckily survived for Elizabeth of York's diplomatic activities compared to many of her predecessors, and with far more details. I would literally kill to get similarly detailed evidence for Elizabeth Woodville. So it's certainly strange when Elizabeth of York's role in diplomacy is not emphasized more when it comes to her queenship - especially because it is, ultimately, an expected element of queenship which queens were traditionally meant to excel at. My guess is that it's not highlighted as much because it actually gives Elizabeth agency, which historians often refuse to do.
***Edward IV definitely wasn't the first or only one to claim the red dragon (it was used for/used by many others, and some poets used it for Henry himself in the early 1460s). However, at that point in time in England specifically, it would have very much been Edward IV who was most commonly and universally associated with it; after all, he was the one who won the throne and ruled for more than two decades. Its association with Edward IV is also what would have been the most familiar to Caxton, who established himself in England only in the 1470s, and who was a supporter of Edward IV's family (aka: the Woodvilles) during that time. His support of Henry (who he did not know) during this time would have been through that context as well, rather than loyalty to Henry in his own right.
****Obviously, we can recognize how problematic such inherently gendered expectations are now, but contextualization is important.
*****Elizabeth of York's popularity as queen, at least in the beginning, may have been partly due to the fact that she was English princess who grew up in the public eye, was the daughter of a fairly well-liked king, and the fact that her marriage played a vital role in "uniting" the two rival dynasties. So her circumstances probably played a role in her popularity as well. But we shouldn't discount Elizabeth's own affability and charm, nor her evident generosity, nor the fact that however this popularity emerged, it was Elizabeth who maintained it, and it ultimately signified the success of Elizabeth's queenship and bolstered her husband's kingship.
Sources:
Lauren Rose Browne, "Elizabeth of York: Tudor Trophy Wife", "Tudor and Stuart Consorts: Power, Influence, and Dynasty
Derek Neal, "The Queen's Grace: English Queenship 1464-1503"
J.L. Laynesmith, "The Last Medieval Queens: English Queenship 1545-1503"
Retha M. Warnicke, "Elizabeth of York and her six daughters-in-law: Fashioning Tudor Queenship
the more i think about it, the more i'm fine with Nigar being pathetic over Ibrahim. cuz as someone of pathetic existence myself i deeply relate to her.
i just wish it lead somewhere, you know? like Nigar deserves to get a W over Ibrahim in the end. her pathetic-ness would then be the build up to a cathartic "fuck you Ibrahim" moment
the proposed ending for her is her managing to run away with Esmanur, but i'm even fine with her dying if she dies in a way that would massively screw over Ibrahim. let Nigar have a W goddamn it!!!
got a great comment from @here-be-tangents and i actually thought it deserved it's own post. it's regarding this ask here, and the comment is as follows:
Agree completely with almost everything… except the notion that Rodrick Arryn is meant to be seen positive. My reading has always been that he’s infantilising her (impressive given how young she is), and isolating her under airs of protection and pampering. The big red flag for me (beyond the whole situation) is the letters. Amanda scribes letters telling how happy she is, then we get one letter - in her own barely literate hand - pleading for help. And the letter’s about her pregnancy.
This made me want to look back at the text itself for the way Rodrik (also rip to me spelling his name wrong every time I wrote it, lmao), so here's the parts about Rodrik and Daella's marriage, with some parts highlighted by me that I feel are most interesting. I apologize for the wall of text under the cut here, and also general csa and grooming, obviously:
Last of the three, and least in many eyes, was Rodrik Arryn, Lord of the Eyrie and Protector of the Vale. He had been a lord since the age of ten, a point in his favor; for the past twenty years he had served on the small council as lord justiciar and master of laws, during which time he had become a familiar figure about court, and a leal friend to both king and queen...Lord Arryn was the oldest of the three contenders, however; at six-and-thirty, he was twenty years older than the princess, and a father besides, with four children left him by his late first wife. Short and balding, with a kettle belly, Arryn was not the man most maidens dream of, Queen Alysanne admitted, “but he is the sort you asked for, a kind and gentle man, and he says that he has loved our little girl for years. I know he will protect her.” To the astonishment of every woman at the court, save mayhaps the queen, Princess Daella chose Lord Rodrik to be her husband. “He seems good and wise, like Father,” she told Queen Alysanne, “and he has four children! I’m to be their new mother!”... Afterward, Lord Arryn took his princess back to the Eyrie. “My children need to meet their new mother, and I want to show the Vale to Daella. Life is slower there, and quieter. She will like that. I swear to you, Your Grace, she will be safe and happy.” And so she was, for a time. The eldest of Lord Rodrik’s four children from his first wife was a daughter, Elys, three years older than her new stepmother. The two of them clashed from the first. Daella doted on the three younger children, however, and they seemed to adore her in turn. Lord Rodrik, true to his word, was a kind and caring husband who never failed to pamper and protect the bride he called “my precious princess.” Such letters as Daella sent her mother (letters largely written for her by Lord Rodrik’s younger daughter, Amanda) spoke glowingly of how happy she was, how beautiful the Vale, how much she loved her lord’s sweet sons, how everyone in the Eyrie was so kind to her.
And later, when Daella is pregnant:
In the Vale, however, her sister Daella was not doing near as well. After a year and a half of marriage, a different sort of message arrived at the Red Keep by raven. It was very short, and written in Daella’s own uncertain hand. “I am with child,” it said. “Mother, please come. I am frightened.” Queen Alysanne was frightened too, once she read those words. She mounted Silverwing within days and flew swiftly to the Vale, alighting first in Gulltown before proceeding on to the Gates of the Moon, and then skyward to the Eyrie. It was 82 AC, and Her Grace arrived three moons before Daella was due to give birth. Though the princess professed delight that her mother had come, and apologized for sending her such a “silly” letter, her fear was palpable. She burst into tears for the slightest reason, and sometimes for no reason at all, Lord Rodrik said. His daughter Elys was dismissive, telling Her Grace, “You would think she was the first woman ever to have a baby,” but Alysanne was concerned....Lord Rodrik wept as well, and begged the queen’s permission to bury his precious princess in the Vale, but Alysanne refused. “She was the blood of the dragon. She will be burned, and her ashes interred on Dragonstone beside her sister Daenerys." Daella’s death tore the heart out of the queen, but as we look back, it is plain to see that it was also the first hint of the rift that would open between her and her king. The gods hold us all in their hands, and life and death are theirs to give and take away, but men in their pride look for others to blame. Alysanne Targaryen, in her grief, blamed herself and Lord Arryn and the Eyrie’s maester for their parts in her daughter’s demise…but most of all, she blamed Jaehaerys. If he had not insisted that Daella wed, that she pick someone before year’s end…what harm would it have done for her to stay a little girl for another year or two or ten? “She was not old enough or strong enough to bear a child,” she told His Grace back at King’s Landing. “We ought never have pushed her into marriage.” It is not recorded how the king replied.
I fully agree here, there's something so weird going on with Daella in the Vale. I've usually focused on Jaehaerys and Alysanne's actions here, which range from stupid to nonsensical to deeply disturbing and I've touched on the weird ways Jaehaerys gets obsessive about his daughters' virginity and sex lives, and @kingcunny has touched a few times on how Alysanne is really projecting onto her daugthers' marriages, and this is just more adding to that pile there. Jaehaerys marrying his 15 year old off when there's no reason not to wait, Alysanne not even bothering to fight against this even though she knows birth is dangerous, both of them agreeing to marry her off to a dynastic dead end and a man who really clearly has had some sort of grooming effect on Daella (he's known her since she was a child, he reminds her of her father...) instead of literally anyone else or just not marrying her off at all. Gyldayn as well infuriates me here with his "men in their pride look for others to blame" as if Daella's death isn't squarely on Rodrik, Jaehaerys, and Alysanne.
But you are completely right, beyond Rodrik being super goddamn old, his actions here are SUPER SHADY. Taking her away immediately, all her letters being written by one of his daughters, his oldest (and heir presumptive) being wildly hostile to Daella, Daella calling herself "silly" for being scared during childbirth, it's all so damn disturbing.
So i WILL concede that point that Rodrik might be meant more to scare us. I think this goes back to my third point in the ask which is lack of payoff, one thing I think F&B really suffers from on the sexual abuse front; because of the nature of how its written (through the point of view of an AWFUL man who is kissing up to the regime) when compared to the main series (which tells the story through people who are "outsiders" and don't give a shit about the regime, regardless of whether those narrators are "good" people or not), we rarely get any sort of "pay off" for the sexual abuse. It's just page after page of nauseating sexual abuse, especially during Jaehaerys' reign. Like, for all that George always refuses to give you the cathartic death that you want (Sansa is emotionally disturbed by Joffrey's murder, Tyrion starts his downward spiral after Tywin's murder, Theon's torture has zero to do with the things he's actually done wrong, etc) all of those points still exist they're just played with. Joffrey, in the end, still gets his comeuppance but you're left wondering if the right person was even punished, if Joffrey's death will even help the war at all since Robb and Cat are dead and Sansa & Arya are running out of options. Tywin gets the exact death he deserves, but his death signals the complete downfall of a family that doesn't know how to function without him.
Rodrik gets...Alysanne yelling at him. Rogar gets Jaehaerys' approval over Jae's own mother, and his only comeuppance is once again simply Rhaena (not even Aly or Jae) threatening him (and Jocelyn is almost a non factor in the story). Aerion gets his moment of humiliation at Dunk's hands, Maekar gets his moment of realization after Baelor is killed, etc, like these moments are complex but the villains aren't Karma Houdinis, they just exist as more than one note villains. I'm not sure how you would work that "pay off" moment into F&B but that's because the very concept of F&B as a way of telling these stories is kinda flawed, lol.
Anyways, my point here is mostly "i hate all these dudes" and also "GEORGE JUST GIVE US WINDS OF WINTER AT LEAST."
bad news from the zones, tumbleweeds. that one denis maznev guy drew shiera seastar and she looks like she just bought a new face from the hottest plastic surgeon in highgarden
idk who dennis is but i never understood the impulse to make shiera or other targaryens look like insta baddies. if you are described as ethereally strikingly beautiful you don’t have instagram face you have to look unique (ie kinda wacky! that’s what makes you striking!) especially the targaryens. they should look a little bit alien imo
hii, i saw on ur twitter account where u said that the amethyst empress/bloodstone emperor theory was dumb can u elaborate on why im just genuinely curious because i personally find the theory plausible and every person i've met is of the same opinion ur like the only person i've met who dislikes it and im just so curious on why?
hey there!!
so first let me just say that if i sounded dickish and mean spirited about it, that was not my intention. i never wanna yuck anyones yum, i personally love a wacky theory!
(also when i say ‘you’ i mean the general, not you personally)
don’t get me wrong, there are parallels or similarities between the two side by side, but I think it kinda ends there? i think a lot of the DEEP lore of twoiaf, one can read as having echoes and similarities all over over the map, but i dont think is meant to be taken entirely literal.
but really, why i don’t like that theory is because i think it totally misinterprets what the Dance was about and why it’s important to the overall lore of asoiaf and the themes of the main series.
i think it also kind of unfairly paints the story as Good v Evil, which again, wildly misinterprets and simplifies the Dance as a big evil done to Rhaenyra personally by an evil little brother Aegon.
it’s about The Family and how it tore itself apart under the weight of its own hubris and the feudal system that built the tinderbox for the whole thing to implode eventually.
it’s very much about the unfolding tragedy one after another after another until all that’s left are two deeply traumatized children. it’s about the dangers of dragons and why history doesn’t remember them fondly. it’s the pretext on which arianne tries to put myrcella on the throne. it’s about the needless deaths of innocents over a family squabble that got out of control, and the fundamental flaw of a feudalist system that nation could be torn apart because of an inheritance dispute. it’s a History Story. it’s not really about the Long Night at all.
Plus this kinda wildly misinterprets Aegon as a character? he has a lot of flaws, for sure, but the harbinger of primordial evil because he got caught up in a bit of legal drama? that’s giving him way too much credit lol.
And again, I really dont care about theories, even if they’re ones i dont personally agree with. i’ve been in the general asoiaf sphere for a very long time so that’s nothing new. but i think what irked me about this one, is for a number of people, having this specific theory and framework in mind totally alters the way they watch and engage with the show at all.
so like when the posters were dropped, people are genuinely mad that it was rhaenyra and alicent and not rhaenyra and aegon bc duh its about This Theory … and it’s like? no? you made that up..
so if people are watching the show with that theory in mind, then it does completely cloud how you think about these characters and i think restricts one’s engagement to a Good/Evil dichotomy. and if i’m being really honest, a lot of people who i’ve seen go really hard on this theory are people who already hated alicent/greens and invented it to justify why rhaenyra is basically the main character of twoiaf, second to dany. which is doing just too much.
but the big, and i think the most important one, is that it’s absolutely absurd for people to confidently and definitively say that THIS is what the show is about and the marketing/show not aligning with that is a total failure based on niche asoiaf lore that most show!watchers don’t even know about, wasn’t even mentioned in the previous series, and only exists in a separate book of lore and stories that may not even be true anyways.
Team politics aside, you have to be a total loser to believe you'd know how any woman (tortured mentally AND physically as she is forced to watch the harassment and murder of her small child) would respond to such trauma. People grieve in different ways. Helaena is not Rhaenyra!
i think the idea that the targaryens are not worse than what came before or after their dynasty is real disingenuous, bc it’s not about like “well the feudal system before was better than this new feudal system” that’s not the criticism, the criticism is the incest. and if you really think there is nothing worse about targ incest marriages than regular marriages, bottom of my heart it’s bc of this idea that incest only exists in fiction and kink, and isn’t a real thing that destroys people’s lives, just like rape is.
i see it constantly that “so you’re telling me lysa and jon is better than jaehaerys and alysanne” yes. i am saying that. i understand the difference seems academic, but a dynasty that takes the one (1) platonic relationship a woman can have that can allow her some sort of outlet for her fears and struggles and sexualizing it, is in fact way worse than everything else in this series (not even delving into the way it also harms men’s sexuality & emotions as well!!) i keep trying to make a ~smart~ post about it but i’m gonna be honest, i find people’s approach of “incest is fine if there’s no power dynamic issues” to be naive to the point of being purposefully obtuse and i don’t know how to say “there’s a reason our first interaction with targaryen incest is viserys sexually abusing a barely pubescent dany just like there’s a reason the first lannicest scene from their pov is jaime At Best coercing cersei to fuck in a sept next to their dead son’s body” in a way that is academic, and also doesn’t devolve into “kink and problematic themes is bad” bc i think george does a masterful job of exploring, dissecting, and laying out whether ~healthy incest~ can exist (it can’t) and i do not give a shit if someone pretends to be their girlfriend’s stepdad when they fuck but the same as we understand rape KINK is different than actual rape, incest KINK is simply not a real thing that happens in real life scenarios, because incest is always abusive outside of the safety of safe words and check ins.
Ok. This is...kind of a sketch...like I said I can't write fully fanfiction but here you go! I just want them to have a family dynamic. And yes...this is probably super OOC.
-Quackity...why is Schlatt here? Wasn't he a tyrant and...dead?-
Foolish asked, looking at the former president of Manburg, who was looking around, inspecting the buildings with a skeptical look, holding a glass of whiskey in his hand. Quackity sighs, trying to avoid direct eye contact.
-We made a bet....and I lost. So...he stays here...for a while...till I revive him...-
-Revive him? but that's JSchlatt---
-So, who build all this?-
the horned man asks, taking a sip from his glass and continue to...admire the buildings...
-...Me, I build it.-
Foolish says, rather fast...faster then he wanted. Schlatt just nods.
-Looks good. Majestic, you are clearly good at this, you have any degree in such things?-
-....Well...no...actually I am a God, you know...but thanks...-
this came out quietly and less fast then the previous statement, the God was truly flustered. He didn't expect a compliment to his skills, especially from a dictator.
-God? Not bad. Must be a advantage...
-What...against enemies?-
Foolish was ready to get defensive but then heard the answer.
-no, for building. You know, the whole...flying thing...or whatever is your power, I don't really care.-
Schlatt just shrugged, took another sip from his whiskey and continued to walk around.
-dont let your guard down...he may be charismatic, but don't let him fool you...-
Quackity said quietly. But Foolish didn't listen, his skills were appreciated!
***
The whole casino didn't look to bad either, maybe this a place that he could get used to...
-Hello, JSchlatt from Manburg.-
The ram-hybrid almost spilled his drink...almost. He focused his gaze on the strange young...guy?...he had a shap of a guy...but the former president couldn't be sure.
-And...who are you?-
-Oh! I am human...this you can tell by looking at my..completely human form!-
-....Yeah, sure. Whatever you say. And does your human form have a name?-
-Of course! Charlie...this does sound human, right?-
-Well, yes, I assume.-
This time, Schlatt tried to get away from the conversation as fast as possible and continued his journey, hading towards the balcony, he clearly needed a smoke.
-See you later. Glatt from the afterlife gym.-
The man stopped for a moment, how did this...definitely human know about the gym...he decided to question that later and tried to get to the balcony even faster.
-He saw me as a human!-
The slime-boy was just happy that he could convince another person that he is human....
***
Stepping on the balcony and finally getting some fresh air...that isn't really needed for a ghost...but still...Schlatt saw another person and sighed outloud, stepping closer, but still keeping the distance. This person seemed strange...netherit armor...and...oh...it seems, that its Sam...Schlatt does remember him. He lights his cigar, looking down at all the other buildings.
-Seems like you are still "guarding" someone.-
-....You could say so.-
The creeper-hybrid seems to be as calm as always, but his voice gives away some notes of worries. Schlatt stays quiet. He isn't someone who starts "soul to soul conversation"...even if his state as a ghost would mean that every conversation is like this.
-Did you ever....regret, doing the right thing?-
Sam is the one, who breaks the silence, not looking at the former president. The ram-hybrid answered with a laughter.
-Regret is something for people...who are wrong. Isnt it?-
-...What if those right actions hurt the one...that you care about?-
-Eh...what do you mean?-
the ghost inhaled the smoke of his cigar and let lit out after some seconds, it wasn't the same after his death...but it still gave a satisfying burn.
-...You remember Ponk?-
-...The name seems familiar. Eh...the strange guy, who always followed you?-
Schlatt could have sworn that he heard a very quiet chuckle from Sam...those were rare...even extinct.
-Yes...that one....I chopped his arm off...I had to...I needed him to understand that he can't mess with the prison...that nobody can mess with it. That it can get dangerous and he didn't understand it...I......am I a bad person for doing the right thing?-
-I don't think so.-
The answer was so quick and determined that the creeper-hybrid almost thought that he only imagined it. He didn't think that someone would really understand.
-I mean...I didn't order to execute Tubbo just because I am a sick fuck. I mean...that's part of the reason, but I also couldn't everyone think that they could just betray me and get away with it. I think...you did the right thing. Maybe....he will understand that there are sacrifices that have to be done. Sometimes they cost a life...maybe even your own.-
Schlatt let the cigar fall from the balcony and emptied his glass fully, letting it stay on the table nearby. He left, giving Sam the silence and time for thinking that he clearly needs. As soon as the ram-hybrid thought he is done with new encounters, he sees a familiar face...and familiar fox-ears.
-Fundy.....so you are on Quackitys side, heh.-
Schlatt smiled and tilted his head a little bit. The fox stayed quiet, tried to formulate a sentence in his head...he thought so much about a future conversation, but now...when he has a chance, he can't bring himself to say anything.
-Well....I guess, this time I kind of follow your dream, right kid?-
Without any hesitation and even without sarcasm, he just petted Fundy on his shoulder, making his way further.
-See you later.-
Fundy continued to stay there, looking in the direction where Schlatt has gone. He really wanted to say something...but right now he didn't know what and how he could do it. He wanted Schlatt to change his ways...but..right now...after all what he heard from Foolish and Slime...and the little parts of the dialogue that he heard from the side of the balcony...he begins to question...does Schlatt really have to change...or do they all just need to see his point of view...
the relationship between a person and the native flora and fauna of where they grew up is something that can actually be so personal
Mon grammaire de la tapisserie Yen-Ju PENG
Laine et coton
44 cm x 72 cm
2012 - 2013
掛毯織紋 彭彥儒
羊毛、棉
44 cm x 72 cm
2012 - 2013
Le bout du monde - Point du Raz
Yen-Ju PENG
Canon PowerShot S100
le 31/12/2014
世界的盡頭 - 拉茲角
彭彥儒
Canon PowerShot S100
2014/12/31