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I am a big fan of helluva boss and especially from Octavia 🙃

Feel free to enjoy it. 💫

What's your favourite hazbin/helluva character?

This. Is. FUCKING. AMAZING.

OH Oh oh, I would love to hear a Charlie canon vs fanon rant if you're up for sharing?

Ok ok mainly I was thinking of someone recently saying “Charlie represents a shallow christian view of redemption in which you just try really hard and don’t do drugs! you’ll be a good person that easy!” (paraphrased) and well. No. Definitely not.

What Charlie represents is the emotional idea of redemption.

Charlie’s chosen existence is based fully upon the idea that there is no category of “bad person” that excludes someone from being human. As such, everyone is capable of redemption because ‘there’s good in everyone deep down inside, she knows there is.’ People like to think this as naivety (which is. a whole other thing) but this is the stance the show takes every seriously. So many, and I mean so many, are under this impression that Charlie is at some point going to be proven wrong about redemption. That not everyone can actually be redeemed. But she just won’t be because the point is always that Charlie is right. With Angel, with Pentious, against Lucifer, against Adam and against Sera, she’s proven right.

“You build something nice, you invite people in and offer them everything and they just bring VIOLENCE and CHAOS to your doorstep. It doesn’t matter how well intentioned you are, they’ll always disappoint you.”

…He says, as the hotel crew work together to keep each other safe and out of harm’s way even at their own risk.

In any case, Charlie’s view of redemption is that of loving-

-and being loved.

This is what the series shows. Every fully realized character loves, and is loved by, someone.

No exceptions.

It’s a deliberate point of humanization because the show argues everyone has humanity. Which is what Charlie argues! The show is always in alignment with her values. As such, it doesn’t make sense to argue any of this is something she is meant to grow out of.

Now, where the above statement is drawn from is that she doesn’t have the practical understanding of redemption. Hence the parody of America’s famously ineffectual D.A.R.E program. This done because Charlie is very much throwing shit at the wall (done through looking at common behavior in hell and having her patrons not do the opposite to appeal to Heaven) in very desperate hope something will work and Heaven will recognize her people… as people. Importantly, the significant thing of Angel Dust and Sir Pentious being the actors in this scene is that through understanding them Charlie learns a practical idea of redemption. That being as (and what the show properly conceptualizes redemption as) the correction of behavior that harms oneself or those around you. Which is why we go from:

To:

“Heavenly people, the porn star chose a night of debauchery, that’s not a soul worthy of being in Heaven!”

“Are you really telling me you haven’t had a drink with friends at the end of a hard day?”

She’s not bending over backwards to make Angel as appealing as possible to Heaven, she’s making a stance that disagrees with their perception of ‘bad behavior’, reminding them to acknowledge his hardships and what influences his behavior, and making it clear that these specific actions aren’t having a negative effect on anyone, and therefore doesn’t contradict her statement that Angel has improved.

Then people see the part of Charlie’s arc which is learning to have a damn backbone (to put it bluntly) and go and argue that the end point for Charlie’s character is to “stop being nice.” Well, first of all, Charlie being nice is the only reason everyone isn’t dead, so jot that down, and second, while yes Charlie fights against Adam, the ultimate result of that conflict is:

“He’s had enough.”

Charlie is always going to choose mercy. She is always going to extend humanity. She is always going to offer the olive branch. People think Charlie is going to come to some grand revelation about having to be cruel and that just, isn’t the point. Because the big thing is that people believe Charlie is defined by her naivety (and that eventually that naivety must be destroyed) but she isn’t.

The only moment I can really think that suggests Charlie being such is her singing in the pilot during the newsbroadcast despite being warned otherwise. Besides that, I just don’t see it as a major point of characterization. Because we see Charlie acknowledge not everyone wants to change, but she doesn’t get to deny any the opportunity, deny them the hotel. Because they were entitled to the opportunity to change and improve by process of being alive. “How can I turn him away? I can’t. It goes against everything I stand for.”

In general I think there’s a failure of people who view Charlie as just… naturally happy go lucky at factory default and miss that Charlie’s kindness is a choice.

Charlie was born into a broken world with a decomposing kingdom to her name. Her optimism is a developed coping mechanism because it’s the only way she can believe everything can maybe work out. Because Charlie has been surrounded by this constant death she felt powerless to stop and everyone has just! accepted it! This constant misery that she unavoidably bares witness to, and it feels like she’s the only one who cares.

So she has to be kind. She has to believe things can tangibly improve. She has to put the entire world and then some onto her own shoulders and live with every action she takes having millions of lives dependent on it. Charlie doesn’t even think she’s any sort of properly equipped to do any of this, but she’s the only person who’s bothering to try.

As Charlie deeply internalizes what people say about her. Hell’s clown, a joke, a fool chasing an impossible dream, destined to fail. Whenever anything goes wrong, Charlie directs that entirely at her own self. Adam is going to slaughter the hotel? What a horrible person she was to give the them false hope. Heaven decided to personally purge Charlie and her family because they dared to believe in their own personhood? Well she should have done a better job at convincing them otherwise.

Charlie doesn’t like herself.

So she masks it.

Sometimes the mask, the optimism, breaks.

I think Charlie’s optimism is as to Alastor’s cruelty, that’s why this scene compares them the way it does. Those aspects of them, they’re not fake exactly, but they are conjured to shield their fears. Charlie is afraid of failing everyone and Alastor is afraid of… being afraid in the first place frankly.

Because again, Charlie views everyone as her responsibility. She needs no reasoning beyond Hell being her people for her to dedicate her entire being to them. People seem to not acknowledge how closely she and Vaggie manifest their feelings of self loathing, even if they pretty much do it on opposite ends of the spectrum. Vaggie is a living extension to Charlie, Charlie is a living extension of Hell. The knight and the princess, both sworn to their own duties even at their own suffering. And the princess would burn herself to ash to warm her kingdom. Charlie is the self chosen sacrificial lamb.

js watched ep 7 and 8. first off, WHAT

So, @simpforsimeon and I kinda made a AU where Twisted Wonderland, and two of our OCs, are Helluva Boss characters.

The name of the AU is Helluva Wonderland.

We even have some roles out for them, like, my main OC is Verosika Mayday, Chesna/William (their OC) is Blitzo, Epel is Loona, Riddle is Mrs. Mayberry, Ace is Millie, Deuce is Moxxie, Crewel is Asmodeus, Crowley is Robo and Real Fizzarolli, Lilia is Stolas, Sebek is Stella, Silver is Octavia, Sam is Wally Wackford, and Jack is Striker.

I think Floyd would be Jarold Mayberry because I, and @simpforsimeon, ship Floyd and Riddle.

The roles we have left are;

- Lin

- Joe

- Sallie May

- Paimon

- Cash Buckzo (Blitzo's father)

- Verosika's Posse (Josh, Coco, Apple, Kat, Milky, Kiki and Ace)

- Lyle

- Loopty

- Cletus

- Collin

- Keenie

- Deerie

- Barbie Wire

- Andrealphus.

And the Twisted Wonderland Characters we have left are;

- Trey

- Cater

- Che'nya

- Neige

- Vil

- Rook

- Vargas

- Trein

- Kalim

- Ambrose

- Cheka

- Leona

- Kalim

- Jamil

- Jade

- Azul

- Eliza

- Ruggie

- Grim

- the Dwarfs (Dominic, Shelpy, Hop, Snick, Toby, Gran and Timmy)

- Najma.

Maybe you guys, my viewers and @simpforsimeon 's viewers can help us with which TWST Characters fit the role of the HB Characters for the roles as I will be writing down the roles.

Now note that I will update this post when we get new Helluva Boss characters from new future episodes.

Edit 1: Yuu is Martha, Malleus is Ralphie

Edit 2: Vortex is Miss Yuu (Named Yuna, she's Yuu's lil sis)

Edit 3: Idia and Ortho are Agents 1 and 2

Whoever Owns Alastors Soul Made Him A OverLord. Think About It:

We All Know He’s “Oh A Leash” In Husk’s Words, And We All Know What Those Words Mean: Alastor Made A Deal, One That Traps Him, One That Chains Him, One He Can’t Get Out Of. And He’s A VERY POWERFUL Overlord? How? Why Would An OVERLORD Need Or Want To Make A Deal That Doesn’t Benefit Them? That Instead, Shackles Them?

Do You Get Where I’m Coming From???

Alastor Sold His Soul To Someone, For Power! And It HAS To Be Someone In A High Place, Like; A Sin, Lucifer, Lilith, Eve! HELL It Could Even Be Charlie.

And He Uses Fire??? Vivsiepop, You Make My Job Easier!

Every time I hear Ozzie doing that little "🎶Anything for you<3🎶" line I cry

[SPOILERS FOR THE NEW HELLUVA BOSS EPISODE]

This scene genuinely made me pause the episode and start crying

Not only was there an imp who had broken horns like Fizz

But they also knew sign language

Not only did fizzarolli's smile brighten at the kid compared with the rest of the audience

But he even did sign language with them and encouraged for them to not only be a clown like him, but whatever they wanted

Headcannon: when angel wakes up his hair is sticking straight up like he’s supersane

I’ve decided to start writing!

Hi I’m Riley or Rye I go by they/them (for a more in depth introduction go to the carrd linked in my bio)

-keep in mind I will only write male/non binary readers. Fem aligned folks, I got nothin against ya but go read something else-

I will write:

•Hazbin hotel

•Helluva boss

•Beetlejuice (movie, broadway, or series)

•ASTV

•The avengers and Deadpool

•forth wing

•DBH

•crave series

•inside job

•poly ships

i WILL NOT write:

•Smut(I will write suggestive material and make-out stuff naturally since my current hyper fixation is angel dust but I am, in fact, a teenager.)

•I will only write s/h or s/a in a negative context

•Slow burn, I’m too impatient

•Valentino

•incest

Characters I write for:

My acting bucket list:

-work with Jim parsons

-be in a broadway musical

-be in AT LEAST ONE episode of hazbin hotel/helluva boss

-meet Ryan renolds

-hug Ryan renolds

-put my hand in Ryan renolds’ hair

-this is getting off track