Imagine Going To A Gynaecologist For Sterilisation And They Whip Out A Tentacle Dildo.

imagine going to a gynaecologist for sterilisation and they whip out a tentacle dildo.

Rage. In my heart. All-consuming. FUCK AI.

In case it wasn't clear:

Yes. Even as a proshipper, I firmly believe every single person creating content that has the potential to be unpleasant, triggering or upsetting should be responsible for making sure it can't be seen as much as they have the right to spaces where it can be seen.

It is your personal choice not to bother with things like tags or applying content markers.

But then you lose the right to be angry or upset when people complain about being exposed to your content with limited or no ways to avoid it.

Again. The Salmon Analogy.

You don't have to eat the salmon.

But its in both our best interests for me to be blatant about which dishes contain salmon specifically so you don't eat the salmon.

(And its in everyone's best interests to start bullying websites and services into giving us better tools to make sure this symbiotic relationship works.)

Actually, you're right!

Although I disagree with 'extremely public' (because literally any online website is inherently 'extremely public') I firmly believe in the curation of content via tags and filters.

Personally, I would love it if tags, filters and content markers were obligatory. They are mutually beneficial in that they can show and hide content depending on the preference of the individual using those tags, filters and markers.

Hoping you make someone feel guilty is a strange one, though. Especially since without all the vitriol and pearl clutching, you actually have a pretty good point, and one that is actually aligned with a value a lot of proshippers themselves have.

I am fully aware that something such as incest is not what everyone enjoys. I am fully aware that there are a lot of people who would prefer not to be exposed to content regarding incest.

As such, I heavily advocate for the common-spread use of, and personally use, tags, filters and content markers.

Making sure you can't see something that is unpleasant, upsetting or triggering is as important to me as being able to find content I enjoy and help others who enjoy it find it too.

However, what I do find interesting, and perhaps something for everyone to think about, is that you are clearly placing blame and accountability solely on individuals and small creators, and I bet mainstream media wasn't even in your consideration when you made this post.

For example; Game of Thrones.

No warnings. No filters. No content markers. Incest, rape, pedophilia and murder on a free-for-all for anyone to access.

How many streaming platforms offer you the opportunity to filter out any content involving such topics? Without switching to the 'children's' platform?

How many TV shows and movies give you a little pre-episode warning screen telling you that X topic will be depicted in the episode?

How many official platforms offer the chance to filter or avoid certain themes and topics?

How many websites offer the chance to filter content explicitly by topic and not just an en-masse 'mature content' flag?

Certainly, far less than websites geared toward fan and individual based content. Tumblr offers me more filters than Twitter. AO3 offers more filters than Wattpad.

Individuals and small creators take more consideration in regards to tagging and filtering than the mainstream media industry ever has. While its fairly important to remind individuals and small creators of the importance of tags and filters, surely, its a more pressing issue to remind the mainstream media industry?

If you have the time to sit around making guilt-trip posts on Tumblr, you have the time to send an email to a major movie studio or create a petition or email Netflix.

I feel like people forget incest victims exist in real life and you may not want to make your incest fan content extremely public with zero filter. A lot of people treat incest as a joke but it's actually so fucked up because family is who you're told to trust so the level of betrayal and disgust is unimaginable. I hope I made someone feel guilty with this post 👍

Drawn cp not being classed as csem by the FBI doesn't mean it's okay, you know that right? You understand that just because something is legal doesn't mean it's immune to criticism? Do you understand that "it's allowed by the FBI actually!!" is a very weak and bad response to someone condemning something?

"Drawn CP."

Again. Not actually CP.

Its. Fictional.

By definition. It does not involve any real children. That's the distinction I'm making. Because its an important one, and one that people who share your mindset love to ignore in regards to vehement defence of fictional characters who neither exist nor need defending. Because they're not real.

By all means. Criticize or condemn what you like. If your moral stance is that you can't separate fictional creations from real life actions and intent, then that's your stance. If its equitable to you, that's your opinion.

Where it has to stop is when you begin trying to treat those fictional characters with the same victim consideration as real people and labelling the person who created the content as a rapist/murderer/pedophile/ect.

People like you love to condemn fictional content on the basis that it serves as an alternate, direct reflection of reality, when the simple fact is that it isn't.

OP's post was quite literally: "If you're using the subject of your trauma to create fiction that allows you to heal or exist in the least harmful way, you should feel ashamed and guilty."

My response was. Why?

Genuinely. I would love to know what is so abhorrent about people creating victimless, fictional content because it benefits them.

I, personally, would prefer someone writes 100,000 pieces of fiction over harming a real life child.

I, personally, would prefer someone writes 100,000 pieces of fiction over going out and trying to find an outlet in unsafe sex and making themselves vulnerable.

I, personally, would rather people enjoy or experience dangerous, wild, weird, unsafe, unethical kinks and activities fictionally over doing it in real life and winding up hurt or hurting someone else.

I, personally, would never see someone processing, understanding or finding outlet from their trauma through fiction and demand they scuttle off into some dark corner and hate themselves for it.

I implore you to talk to some actual real life therapists who specialise in trauma. Not just your generic therapist. An actual trauma specialist. Creating fictional content, be it art, literature, music, ect, is a very viable, proven tool for both living with something and moving on from it.

Oh no. People who are healing and coping are happy with the fact that they're healing and coping. What a terrible thing. They must all immediately keel over in shame and die.

(By the way the legal definition of child pornography pertains only to pornography depicting and involving real life children.)

it would be a little easier if the people who were "coping with childhood sexual abuse" by making content that is perfectly described as "child pornography" seemed a little less gleeful about it. But what do I know.