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Violet Evergarden Mc

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Everyone is a little worried about this new magic less student that’s from another world. They look like a walking talking doll and act just like one as well. To be honest most students and staff are nervous around Mc.

Ace and Deuce are still friends with Mc but they don’t really understand each other very well. Mc acts like someone who would fit more into Diasomnia if they could use magic. ———

Crowley still uses them for his own gain as Mc just obeys orders given to them. That’s how they met with the Diasomnia family.

Mc: I have came with paper work from Headmaster Crowley.

Lilia: Thank you very much Yuu, why don’t you stay for some tea?

Mc: I still have stuff that needs to be done.

Lilia: It can wait, now come sit down!

Mc: Is that an order?

Sebek: Yes, anything Master Lilia says should be carried out!

Mc: Ok.

Lilia: How old are you?

Mc: I don’t know but people say I’m around 14.

Silver: Why do you take orders from anyone?

Mc: It is all I know how to do, they say I’m a dog to Major Gilbert.

Lilia: Why don’t you start having fun more, if you have any questions go ask the staff for help.

Mc: Thank you very much I’ll take my leave.

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After that Yuu started writing as everyone says it should help them understand what love is. Let’s say the writing started off very strict and not really any creativity in it. But as time passes they do get better at it, they only understand what love is when VDC was over and they busted into tears.

Ace: Yuu, why are you crying?!?

Mc: I understand what love is now.

Vil: All this time you were just trying to find yourself.

Rook: Non, trickster dry your eyes love is nothing to cry over.

Deuce: You understand what Major Gilbert was saying to you.

Mc: Yes.. I-I-I love him too!

I completely agree and I’m so sad and mad that ace and aro issues aren’t more well known and spread around the community and outside of it. So few people are aware of the struggles that the a-spec community face, wether it be through institutionalized oppression or socialized oppression.

Here is a list of ressources that can help you give you more perspective on the rights that we don’t have and the issues that we still have to fight against till this day :

- An academic look of the systemic oppression of asexuality

- Asexual people do not have equal rights with allosexual people : a look about the institutionalized and medicalized oppression ace face (europe lens)

- There is NO mainstream representation of a-specness in the media and very few positive representations exist (it’s getting better but very slowly i.e. sex education and the aroace japanese series)

- Also, a look through asexual history will reinforce your faith in your queer identity. We — as aroaces — have BEEN here, all along.

this list is ace-centered because I’m alloace (pan-ace), but I will so gladly let my aro folks add their own ressources for all of us to read on about.

Hope it can help you as an a-spec connect even more with your identity ; and help allos understand more what makes a-spec identities so inherently queer.

Genuinely so nice to see posts telling me to use the label I want and that it can mean whatever I use it to mean, but I still do feel out of place calling myself queer because, well, I wouldn’t be killed for my aroace spec ness. My friends could be, though, for their queerness. My partners. I’m torn between “pride is a protest because queer people are being killed” and “Aro and ace are queer identities because the deviate from the norm”

I would never ever tell another aroace person not to call themself queer, though, I love all of you, this is a personal conflict. Thoughts?

I think we need to be careful about defining queerness as 'must be this oppressed to ride'. The fact is that we all live in a society that prioritizes cis/straight/allo/perisex experiences and ways of being. We all benefit from pushing back against it together. The community itself tends to stand for embracing that diversity within the community too, and letting people define themselves on their own terms.

I think we also need to be careful about implying that ace and aro people don't experience oppression for being ace/aro, or that our oppression isn't also worth fighting against. It definitely can look different, but it still deserves attention.

That said, it is absolutely OK to choose not to ID as queer. Labels are all what feels right, and if it doesn't feel right to you or you don't feel like it fits you for any reason you don't have to use it. And I know a lot of ace and aro people who prefer to stick to ace and aro labels.

Do any followers have their own thoughts they want to share? Please do!

Aparently wanting ace representation is homophobic?

In case you wanna follow us, we’re inclusionists!

-Mod Agate

Hi! Feel free to ignore this ask but I was wondering if you guys know of any other blog that is anti-yaoi/fujoshi but is ace inclusionist and doesn't claim that gay trans guys are fujoshis?

I mean not really the only other anti fujo blog i really know is run by a really strong exclusionist but in terms of asexuality our blog doesn’t get involved in the discourse as far as i know because it’s not in our lane, so you’re welcome here too!

Okay so I’m not actually sure if there’s a “right” answer to whether aspec people are LGBTQ but like,,, does it really matter? I know and understand not wanting cishets taking everything from us but like,,,,, ace, aro, and aroace people aren’t cishet (at least, not entirely) and it’s not like they’re taking anything away from the community so.... I don’t have a real answer I’m just not sure the argument is worth the toll it’s taking on the community

It’s wild to me that radfem and radfem-adjacent circles are trying to push against both kink and asexuality. Like, gee, it’s almost like there’s an overarching cultural narrative that made us all internalize “you can’t be TOO sexual but you need to be sexually available.” But instead of examining our internalized expectations of sex and sexuality they dress it up in progressive buzzwords and pass it off as “radical” discourse.

Are asexuals a part of the LGBTQ+ community?

Honestly, I don't know. What I do know, is that asexuals can be accepted without a doubt, but they can also get harassed and picked on, and anything in between. My coming out went rather fine, I even did a presentation about it to the whole class, but despite that I often feel left out of certain situations. Some asexuals may be fine without a full support system, they might not figure out they're ace at all, they might think they just don't like sex, they might not know what others feel about it so they think they're straight, they might not even know what asexuality is.

But some asexuals feel left out. They feel misunderstood. Unheard. Weird. Different. Like they are forced to like that kind of stuff. It can brake up relationships. It can mess people up.

If you feel like aces are hurting the community in any way, please let me know, but from what I've seen, aces only want to be accepted. They are not too pushy or act hatred twords any part of the community (of course, I am talking in general, not about specific people).

So before you begin to judge all asexuals about not being harased like the rest of the community might, or not actually needing to be a part of the community, maybe think of those who DO need to feel like they are a part of something, who need to feel accepted, who need to feel like they are not different.

(This also goes out to aro people, but I don't know much about the topic, my apologies)

People are still aphobes in 2019??? bitch… GROW UP L O L

Someone: omg they're so hot!!

Me, an asexual:

i will never fucking forgive the community on this site for the years of “ace discourse”. we were being actively hated for our orientations and everyone just treated it like a fucking debate topic or fucking mocked us for being effected by it. it became such a widespread thing to laugh at that even people who were otherwise okay with us were reblogging aphobic memes and getting mad that we “couldn’t take a joke” when we were upset by it.

and today, people who got swept up in aphobic movements look back at that time like “haha, i was such a cringe teen for participating in ace discourse” rather than “i was shitty and bigotted and i sincerely regret it”; a lot of them probably still ARE aphobic but just don’t talk about it anymore because it’s no longer trendy.

Cosmo Wanda I wish every ace exclusionist or former exclusionist who isn't sincerely sorry and just stopped bc it stopped being trendy gets shot in the head in real life