Endo Syscourse - Tumblr Posts

Ok I know I leave some comments for you OP but I want to repost and add my thoughts, hope it doesn't bother

Endos, pro endos and anti endos, all the three sin of the same mistake and that's the problem with all this syscourse thing, no one is winning, no one can win, it's about making all the whole community into a fight of stances and this is the shit that happens because of it

"What's the shit that you're talking about?"

People being excluded because they don't share the same specific mindset, the system community forcing people to choose a side from syscourse and shit like that, that's the shit I'm talking about, making the system community a endo syscourse one

Tag things as you want, don't include stances or things that doesn't fit you in tags, interact with the tags you like most, use the tags that describe you... It's so bad to see that syscourse makes the tags a problem and distressing

The system, no, the syscourse community is really toxic and shitty, you can't find a good place there, you might think that you can feel understood, like you're ok with them and similar things, but most of the time you're just hurting yourself by engaging with things that upset you and making you part of a discussion that will never stop, it can make you end up worts actually, doesn't matter what side of syscourse you are

Syscourse spaces are very exclusionist, I tell this from experience, and most of the time you'll only see hate, stress and problems, that's what I don't like the system community, I don't like the endo syscourse, I don't like how syscourse now it's a requirement for the system community... That's why I'm not part of it, I don't consider like that, but for content purposes I have to tag it like that tho I'm not

Honestly the best people you'll find in this community are:

The ones who are NOT into syscourse, or if they are they put "neu" because they don't want to deal with

People who don't make their stance their whole personality and put it everywhere

The real good people you'll find are not in the syscourse part of the community, because they can be very double moral and shitty the moment you don't align perfectly with their mind sent

For example me, I'm not anti endos but I don't believe that endo systems are a thing and I don't want them interact, my stance is very complex and yet I've been attacked and exclude from all parts of syscourse, that's why I don't have a syscourse stance public anymore

If you're not breaking boundaries interact with who you want, use the tags you want and don't enter syscourse for your own sake

The good people won't be caring about your syscourse stance

The feeling when interacting with both sides (endos and anti endos) and seeing the bad and good sides of both (both harass people, both can go out of their way to avoid dnis, but also both can bring people closer together, both can post silly fun things, the majority of antis are normally people traumatized by endos fakeclaiming them, harassing them, most antis Do Not go about harassing people. Most endos/pro-endos are trying to be nice, most dont go out of their way to harass people, most don’t agree with those who harass people, most are just living their lives)

Then feeling bad when tagging stuff because I never know what to tag it with because I don’t know which side to choose ;-;

I say I lean anti because of trauma, but as long as people are nice I’m ok to live and let live.

Just a little reminder because I see more people are following me, specially for the ones who want to know me better like friends or something like that

I'm not anti endo! Yes in my intro you can see endos DNI and in many of my blogs you can see the same thing, I don't like endos as the community and how hey harm and are pretty horrible people, but just because I have a boundary doesn't mean I'm against it

One of my principal boundaries while making friends is I don't want to be friends with cis women or AFAB fem enbys, this means I'm against women and misogynist? Nope, but it's called comfort and that doesn't make me automatically a bad person for having boundaries trauma related ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

When it's true I'm not anti endo I'm more aligned to the anti endo side, my stance in this is more complex than just the three known stances so I like to says the endo syscourse because, form experience, both sides (anti and pro) have attacked me, harassed me and do shit to me just because I'm complex in the meaning of stance which is shit

So yeah, if you're uncomfortable with me interacting or you following me because I'm not anti endo please don't make a drama, stop following me here and in the rest of my blogs and just block and move on, I don't want problems nor I care to discuss about this topic

To my anti endo friends who already knew this and still don't care plus like to be around with me because they know what respect and understanding is, I love you guys you're one of my best friends because you're not radical and close minded ✨

Yeah this is all, see ya

Whats otc / Oct endo

Idk where you saw that, I thought I deleted all about that stance lol

Well anyways, oct endo is a stance about your opinion to endos, is very complex but we can just put it as

"I'm not against endo neither I agree with them, I'm in a position where I have opinions and critics to put end to this system fight for endos to have their own separate spaces as I do believe they can experience world as a different way but they're not actual systems, they can feel/be plural but not in the system way, they have to get better and the community is horrible"

Yk it's pretty complex and I have a whole ass thing wrote down that explains this stace but I don't want more of this syscourse shit if it's not with people I'm comfortable at so yeah, it's kinda complex

If you want to know I'm more aligned to the anti-endo part but I don't consider myself as one, I used to be but I simply don't feel like one nor I care about endo syscourse anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So yeah, hope this shitty answer is kinda useful in some way, I'm totally open in DM to a more in depth explanation about this and a better answering questions but I won't probably be doing more public things about this stance because I don't fucking care anymore about the stupid endo syscourse lol

Our syscourse code

Just to make sure, we're open about asks about this and maybe some debates, but if you're not respectful we're just gonna delete it, and if you feel our stances bad or shit like that you're free to block us and unfollow our sideblogs, we're just doing this because we feel like and so the answers are gonna have some more in depth explantion

This is not meant to be a place for attacks, any kind of comment about that would be deleted and reblogs doing with that kind of thing I will block the account without hessitation

Also, endos DNI, don't care if this is tagged with the syscourse tag, it's just because it has to do not because I want you to interact, I gift free blocks yk?

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Question one - Do you believe in endogenic plurality

🤚(NA) - I believe in it but am against it / 👇(NU) - Other

To dive a bit better I do believe in the possibility of experiencing something similar to plurality without the disorder, does this means it would be the same kind of plurality than systems with CDD? Of course not because they're not the same thing, even some people with the disorder don't consider themselves plurals/systems so saying is an only CDD experience it's kinda wonky

I don't believe there's such a thing like "endo system" because system in the context of plurality has been use to explain the CDDs so using it for another types of internal experience that has nothing to do is straight up ableist

I'm also against the endo community because of the way the present and handle thing

It's more like, shit the non CDD "plurals" ruined themselves LMAO /vneg

Question two - Opinion on tulpas

💛 (TC) - I think it is cultural appropriation, and other terms are better

Like if you practice that for real good use it, but many people that use the term tulpa is straight up appropriation and they can find better terms for that :/

Question three - Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📘(NETR) - People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

It's a big it depends case yk? Understanding yourself it's hard

Question four - Opinion on shared spaces

🔸(NSP) - Shared spaces are good but there should also be specific spaces for disordered, traumagenic, endogenic, etc spaces.

It's good to have shared spaces even outside the plural things, but it's' also important to have specific spaces for the ones who don't want to be in more general ones or want to be in a more specific side if they need to, just like any other space it's good to have the general one and the specific one and respect each others boundaries

Question five - Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🟢(TXU) - Not unless the person themselves considers their plurality transX

I believe that transX or trans-ID as I called them is one of the worst shits and I can't believe it's possible to be "transplural" in any kind of way, so yeah don't compare something that can happen with a shit thing

Question six - Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌑(DTNO) - No

No need to explain myself lol

Question seven - Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟦(CNNU) - Other

It has been brought to my attention that people don't really understand what a closed culture is and it's really annoying me, they're policing something they don't fully understand and most of the time is for moral superiority or social pressure especially in the system community which is fucking toxic and shit

Names that are really closed it's not ok to keep them if not given as their disrespectful to the culture, but even with some cultures being close that doesn't mean the names will be closed

So it's more of depends on the name context rather than "the name is from x culture?"

Question eight - Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌳(SDXI) - If the person has done extensive research it's okay / ☘️(SDXNU) - Other

I don't believe one can diagnose oneself as the disorders are very complex and has a lot of things going on, specially when a lot of things go an overlap with symptoms and conduct behavior on the individual, not just when talking about complex dissociative disorders but for any kind of mental health disorder

Just like physical things you can't diagnosis with some body sickness, sure you can have your suspicions and recognize you might have something based on what you know about it but you can be correct or incorrect about your suspicions, the same happens here

I don't believe you can diagnosis yourself, I believe you can self recognize to have a complex dissociative disorder but using medical diagnosis names while it's just a suspicions I think is wrong, doing enough research like a very good one that takes you several reading months I see that the recognizement of the symptoms can be explained by the system phenomena, but don't claim a specific type of CDD please, that's something only the professionals can do

Question nine - Sysmed as a term

🗯(IDN) I do not want to have an opinion on this

I'm still forming my opinion on this one and therefore I don't want to be in the opinion discourse about this

Question ten - Traumascum as a term

🥖(TSH) - I think it's harmful / 🥧(TSA) - I am against it

This is harmful and ableist as shit, why do people even think this is ok to use? Wtf 💀

Question eleven - Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🦎(ESD) - If they are diagnosed / 🐲 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

If they have the diagnosis of a complex dissociative disorder they can use the term system just for describing the alters, if they're gonna describe another part that isn't dissociated and therefore a symptom of the disorder use another term, just like using two different terms at the same time to be respectful with the disorder, yk what I mean?

Question twelve - Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐛 (EAD) - If they are diagnosed / 🐝 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Is the same explanation as the above just change system with alters and that, doesn't have lot of backup explaining outside that

Question thirteen - Xeno-origins

🐬(XEN) - I don't understand their purpose

I genuinely can't understand them

So yea that's all, probably I'll make a blog just for talking about syscourse if I feel like or if I have a lot of asks surrounding this post in my inbox because I don't want this to be a syscourse blog because I'm honestly stressed as fuck when it comes to the stupidity of syscourse talking

That's all byeeee