No, Because This Time You've Actually Made An Interesting And Worthwhile Discussionary Point. Amusing

No, because this time you've actually made an interesting and worthwhile discussionary point. Amusing petulance aside.

The language used in the post is not intentionally invasive. Its a reflection of actual terminology and laguange used by people of a similar opposing mindset to you. AO3 is the 'freak website.' The place where 'everything is gross.' Where you automatically must be suspicious or a degenerate if you're found to be using it.

"Why are the freaks taking over AO3" is a common complaint point amongst people who oppose specific types of content and subjects. The point of the post I made, and the language used, is to correct the fact that the 'freaks' have always been there. The actual creator of AO3 writes Wincest (an incestual ship from Supernatural) and specifically created the website in order to protect fanfiction from censorship.

Not least, if you're going to insist on calling people like me freaks, I'm going to brandish that label proudly. Its no different to reclaiming insults and slurs aimed at you. You want to call me a freak and call my content gross and icky and wrong? Sure. I'm a freak that writes gross, icky incestual monsterfucking smut.

And by god, I'm proud of it.

The language used in the post was intentional only in regards to being structured to reflect the types of complaints and false information and opposing posts that I see often. You're welcome to interpret it otherwise, but in any case, in order to appease you, here:

AO3 is actively and intentionally a safe space for people to create fictional content, regardless of what that content might depict, including rape, bestiality, incest, pedophilia, grooming, monsterfucking, necrophilia and so forth.

AO3 is, has been, and will always be the site for those people. People who are not automatically pedophiles or 'evil' because they wrote a fictional scenario. People who engage with the right to creative freedom.

People the law has actively sided with. Because, might I remind you, the FBI has actively told people to stop reporting fanfiction and fanart because it does not violate the law.

People have questioned lawyers, solicitors and local police services and have all been told that it does not break the law.

(And, yes, something can be both legal and still immoral, but fictional crimes can't be immoral because they don't actually exist.)

Not least, AO3 is the literal physical dead dove bag. AO3 actively warns you that, in using it, you understand and agree to the presence of specific content types and subjects. By using AO3 you're actively saying you agree to co-existing in the same space with it/them.

Its like me walking into a sushi restaurant to order pork udon and being pissed off because someone on the table next to me is eating sushi.

If AO3 was breaking the law with what it was hosting, it would simply be shut down or forced to remove the content. As it stands, guess what? It isn't and it hasn't been.

It is a pretty interesting subject, though. Your original point, I mean. I did digress a little, I apologise. However; the main point is that the language used in the post was merely an active response to that exact language being used in posts opposing AO3 and its rules on anti-censorship. Because its explicitly ironic that you're demanding a website solely structured on anti-censorship to... Censor itself.

Its like going to a steak house and demanding they only serve vegan dishes. (Which is another restaurant simile, sorry, but I went to an amazing sushi restaurant today and now they're on my mind, so.)

TL;DR: If you call me a freak and use 'gross stuff' as a pipeline to try to dictate what people can and can't write (because yes, people have actively said you can't write about twinks because its 'basically pedophilia') I'm going to tell you I am happily a freak and you can pry my 'gross stuff' out of my cold, dead hands.

I did, I can, and I will continue to do so for as long as your intention is to simply spout nonsense accusations and baseless arguments that don't actually further any discussion or have any point beyond you completely ignoring the basis of a post and using it as a sounding board to claim that fanfiction is equal to actual pedophilia. Lurking on a post and commenting aggressive, petulant, false information is not something I am willing to entertain.

I'm also going to refer you to this post.

In regards to it 'not being very anti-censorship of me'; in the radical sense, no, it might not be. But your little whining vent is both nothing that hasn't already been said and nothing I am obligated to provide you with a space to say. I removed your comment because unlike some of the other opposing comments on the post, it had nothing of value to add.

If you have something of actual significance, consideration or value to say, or if you'd like to have an actual discussion about each of our views, the available information and evidence, and the basis of the post, then by all means. I'm here.

Otherwise, you're perfectly welcome to make your own post in order to sound off your opinion.

omg so true about the 911 thing!! don’t they get exhausted?? I’m certainly exhausted by seeing them blast fics they don’t agree with continuously

I can honestly say its reached the point where if I see a discourse post about 911's fans and fan content, I know its a Madney blog before I even look at the URL.

Its perfectly fine to generally disagree with what someone has written, or to dislike what they have written. But the solution to that is to simply move on and not read it. Everyone would happier that way.

Fanfiction is like food. Its personal. Everyone has different tastes. If someone is eating food or making food you don't like, you are under no obligation to eat it and you certainly have no right to demand that they stop cooking/eating.

The fact that we're slowly losing the understanding that if we want more of something like a TV show or a type of merch we have to support it is. Astonishing, honestly.

People are demanding to know why they should have to spend money on X or tweet about Y or leaving ratings and reviews on Z and why can't they just get more of it without having to do anything for it and each time I want to shake them and tell them that its a transaction.

Studios don't make movies for free. Creators don't make merchandise for free. If a TV show has dirt-low numbers, the service is going to cancel it so it stops making a loss and can funnel resources into something more popular.

I cannot stress this enough. If you want something to succeed and if you want more of something, you absolutely have to engage with it and support it and push for more.

Creator and fan relationships are transactions. The creator gives you the content in exchange for things like your money, your ratings and your views.

we are in a media literacy crisis

Fandom racism happens because people are racist. The whole "oh but you were mean to me so I have to be mean to an entire marginalized group" like no. You're just racist

We're not discussing racism or retaliatory racism. I'm assuming you're referencing my recent Madney posts, so I'll clarify.

I'm talking about re-imaginings of canon events within the show that explore different takes and perspectives. Madney fans in particular seem to have an automatic habit of going for the jugular of any author who doesn't strictly present Chimney/Maddie/Madney exactly as seen in the show, often with wild accusations that have left permanent scars in the fandom.

When I say that creative liberty and freedom will get you sniped by Madney fans, I am quite obviously not talking about actual racism and scenarios such as the fallout from last year when a handful of racists were using fanfiction in order to perpetuate racism.

I'm talking about exploration of alternate canon. You can devise scenarios that aren't in the favor of a character without it having ill-intent. You can villainise a character for the narrative without it coming from hate.

For example; I adore Buck. He's my boy. My little sunshine idiot. I've also written fanfiction where he's a ruthless killer that does unspeakable things simply for the thrill of it. Does that mean I hate him? No. He's the villain, but that's the whole purpose of the story. To explore that alternate narrative of what Buck would be if he wasn't the Buck in the show.

I'm not stating he behaves this way in the show. I'm not using the narrative as an excuse to attack who he is, his skin color, ect.

But that's an understanding that I've noticed a lot of Madney fans are unwilling to accept. And not even when its exclusively relevant to Chimney and Maddie, either.

What I referred to in my last post about spite fic was additional fanfiction written on top of existing fanfiction out of spite for hate posts about the existing fanfiction. For example;

Let's say you write watersports. Someone who is not a fan of watersports comments on your work and tells you its disgusting and you should delete it. Instead, you write another fic about watersports.

Likewise, that's exactly what we've seen happen multiple times in the 911 fandom over various scenes and canon events. There's always a witch hunt through recent fanfiction after something happens in an episode, which spirals into a tangled mess of spite fics and 100+ posts of people arguing.

People who want to explore canon material outside of canon aren't going to let the people who believe in rigid canon chokehold them or throw around biased accusations.

My point is; sometimes you simply have to understand that there will always be fanfiction you dislike or disagree with, and that its not healthy to spend your time actively witch-hunting authors and dumping constant shit all over any type of content you don't agree with.

If an author sees someone falsely accusing them of hate, bigotry, ect, they're going to defend themselves. And then it devolves into a public argument that drags people in like a vortex and ruins everything. It keeps happening in the 911 fandom in a vicious cycle that, for a while actually, killed off a lot of the fan count. I know a vast amount of blogs that stepped away from the fandom because people, mostly Madney-based blogs, just couldn't let go or leave people alone.

If your blog is mostly just you shitting all over anything and everything that other people make in your fandom, ask yourself why you're even active in the fandom space in the first place. If you're truly not happy, maybe its time to look elsewhere, or maybe its time to start utilizing the tools provided to ensure you're tailoring your fandom experience to the things you do want to see.