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if I see another ‘the summer I turned pretty’ fanfic with the title ‘Cruel Summer’ I might just lose it

I know this is the most basic of questions but I really can’t figure out which opinion is more popular

“book jeremiah and show jeremiah are two different ppl” no they aren’t. they are the same character written by the same person. that is the same fucking guy.

i still stand by this idc. team conrad FOR INFINITYYYYY

“book jeremiah and show jeremiah are two different ppl” no they aren’t. they are the same character written by the same person. that is the same fucking guy.

dinner || c.f x fem!reader

WARNING- slight pubic sex??, mean belly, fingering, pnv, kinda choking, and reader is on birth control. i think thats all but pls comment if i missed anything! reader has a job as a babysitter during the summer!

Summary: at dinner on one of your first nights at cousins, conrad decided to have a little fun at the dinner table.

Word Count: 799

It was a pretty good night you thought until conrad wanted to have fun teasing you. He first started with putting his hand on your thigh and going up slowly until it was almost touching your underwear.

On this night you decided to wear a summer dress that you rarely wore but wanted to wear since it was pretty warm. But now that the situation you were in, you regretted it, a lot.

"So y/n how is it going with babysitting?" Susannah asked me as conrad stated to lightly touch my core. "u-um it going going so fair the smith kids are so good with me, which i'm very grateful for." i answer. "That's good, i'm glad." she said. belly grumbled and said under her breath. "What was that belly?" i asked already pissed at her, and i have a reason. she had been throwing herself on conrad and jeremiah since she came here.

She has or had a boyfriend but i'm not ever sure. " Nothing y/n." she said with a slight attitude. "Belly i'm not stupid, i heard something." i said annoyed. And at this very moment i wanted to smack but kiss conrad at the same time. He entered his fingers in me and i closed my eyes and clenched my fork in my hand. " I said i'm surprised that you haven't fucked their dad yet." i clench my fork even harder if that's even possible. Conrad's fingers work faster as i try not to make a noise.

"For a matter of a belly i haven't been fucking their dad, i have my own boyfriend to fuck." i say throwing my fork down and grabbing conrad's hand and they fall out of me and we walk faster out of the room and back to his room, but as your walking away you hear belly mom scolding her along with jeremiah and steven holding back their laugh.

We get to his room and i lock the door and fall on the bed. " belly is such a bitch sometimes and why would i fuck someones dad when i have my own money?" i said and look up at conrad smirking. "so you have your own boyfriend to fuck huh?" he asked. i nod shyly. "that's so cute y/n/n" he dips on the bed and moves you to where he is in between your legs. He lifts your dress and looks up to you for consent, you nod flabbergasted. he frowns and grabs your chin to loo at him. "i need words sweetheart." he says, you bit your lip "yes please" he kisses you and takes the dress fully of and makes kisses down your body. your body feels like it on fire just with his kisses.

He finally gets down to your throbbing core. he rubs the clothed clit and moves it to the side and kisses it. finally he dips into your core, eating it like its dinner. you moan and grab his hair and gripping it slightly, he whimpers. you moan even more and buck your hips into his mouth, wanting more. "connie, more please." you beg. he adds two digits into you. you squirm and gasp for air. it feels so fucking good, all you see is white.

"connie i'm going to cum! can i cum please?" you ask, wanting to let the presser away. "go ahead baby." he mumbling into your clit. you shake and your legs tremble slighting, moaning into your hand.

conrad comes back up to your face and kisses you rubbing your boobs. he takes off his pant and pumps himself before looking up to you making sure its okay to enter you. "go ahead." you say still recovering for your last orgasm. he enters you slowly making sure you have time to adjust.

His starts going faster and bringing a hand up to your throat and squeezing slightly. your eyes roll backwards and let out a moan. you bring a hand to rub your clit and start to feel your second orgasm reaching. you feel conrad twitching inside you making you tell that his going to cum in the matter of seconds.

"connie can i cum? im so close." you whine and squeeze your walls around him. "im gunna cum too, go ahead." he grunts and he cums first and that sets a trigger and you cum all cover his cock.

his takes himself out of you and kisses you one last time before heading to his bathroom to go and get a towel to wipe you down with. "thank you." you give him a small smile and he just smiles back and helps wipe you down before cleaning himself up and giving you clothes to sleep in.

"i love you sweetheart."

"i love you too connie."

fic idea:

sunset, after a day of reader and conrad together, they’re chilling on a hammock and just cute and fluff type thing x

ill make sure to add it to my list :D i have so many requests but ill make sure to get it done as soon as i can!

oh yuh, update. not much of my opinion changed tbh.

love the conrad angst within the last two episodes, but i feel like they were more entertaining than the whole season.

also steven listening to the diss was my fav scene.

omg, is it that boring? i haven’t seen the new season yet but i’ve seen a few clips and heard some people talking about it and such. damn, i love both fisher boys as i have two stories for the series. i heard tho that steven and taylor are a couple now, ig?

there’s cute little moments within the season and some good angsty parts, but i feel it honestly gets no where and the season ending is just mid. last season was better. steven and taylor i think are so cute and the best part of the season.

i think it could just be a filler season type thing to just build up for next season. i also liked jeremiah better last season, this season i just can’t stand him.

it’s all personal opinion though 💯💯 anyways

EDIT: i also haven’t watched the 7th episode yet, i thought #6 was the last episode 💀💀

Us Conrad girlies need to stay strong 🙏🏻

I love breaking down hunger games and analyzing it, and I've thought a lot about the love triangle. Particularly how there isn't really one. How the love triangle was really just marketing, but it was always peeta and katniss. And also, Gale was always borderline toxic and possessive. If I compare that to TSITP...gale becomes Conrad imo, the way gale assumes that there is some attachment due to his care/protection/ whatever from the past, having issues that make the FMC feel needed and responsible to help, (I actual started writing this in June of 2023 and just stumbled upon it in my drafts so I'll try to finish what I was talking about) saying things to make the FMC feel guilty about choosing the other guy (even in small things, not even dating the other guy, but like talking to him), letting/making the FMC feel as though she's the only one who knows him/what's going on for him.

The thing about The Hunger Games for me is that Suzanne Collins was pointing out how powerful people are (and have always) pointing attention towards entertainment, and especially romance, to distract from serious issues. In the books, the love triangle is hardly present (again, IMO) but the movies proved the point by drawing out the relationships and marketing the movies for the love triangle, which led many people to believe it was just a dumb storyline about a teenage girl who can't choose between two guys uwu, when in reality it was a social critique, told from a teenage girl without criticizing or belittling girls in any respect, and taught a generation about activism.

That is the crucial different between the two, to me. Hunger Games was meant as a social commentary in ya fiction form, which got marketed as a love triangle. Summer I Turned Pretty really is about the love triangle.

Belly in the first episode is reading the Hunger Games, in the 4th episode in the flashback we see she's watching the movie, do you think there's a connection with TSITP love triangle?

Wow , great question. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen the hunger games… it wouldn’t be fair for me to make an analysis, but I’d like to think that Jenny never does anything unintentional. In season 1, Cam and Belly went to watch Sabrina at the drive in and the plot of the movie represents the triangle between Belly, Conrad, and Jeremiah. There’s connections everywhere. My sister has seen Hunger Games and she said that there’s not even a love triangle that present. I know that Jere loves Belly, but it’s not as present and deep like I think Conrad’s love is. From what I heard, it seems like Katniss and Peeta’s relationship had the main focus and the third person of the triangle was there to spark things up between them. Same goes for TSITP, Belly and Conrad are beyond teenage love. They’re represented as a love that will always find their way back, no matter the obstacles, they’re meant for one another. The gravitational pull between Conrad and Belly is infinite, the light shines most on them. Jeremiah and Belly’s love is platonic, as teenagers and young adults that can get confused with being in love, but when it doesn’t feel right—you’ll just know. I’d love to hear your theories and connections.

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I stood there as Conrad yelled at his brother for not paying attention to their mother. I’ll have to admit Conrad has been off this summer ever since my best friends family invited me to the fishers house about a month ago. Just by what belly had told me about Conrad I can tell something is off.

“Connie…plz calm down”I said walking up to him in a calm voice. He turned around his head looking at me

“Let’s go upstairs and get ready to go to the beach just you and me”I said calmly taking his hand. We headed up stairs to Conrad’s room I got changed in my bathing suit in his bathroom while he changed into his swim shorts in his room.

“You ready dove?”he said knocking on the bathroom door. I love it when he calls me dove I don’t know why he calls me dove. Maybe he likes me or maybe he just does it for no reason

“Yes!” I said opening the door. We head out to walk to the beach we don’t have our shoes on Conrad is holding our towels and a cooler filled with snacks and beers.

“You look pretty Connie”I said laughing while looking at him

“And so do you my dove”he say’s laughing. After putting on sunscreen and and sitting for 44 minutes Conrad and I are on our paddle boards just sitting not to far from shore.

“How are you doing?”I ask Conrad while paddling back to him.

“A lot better dove”Conrad says looking at the water

“Why do you call me dove?whats up with that?”I ask him

“Your my dove,your the main reason I’m still here”Conrad says barley making eye contact

“And my mom has cancer”Conrad says while tears roll down his cheek

“Connie…I’m so sorry about your mom…”I said in shock

“Thx dove”Conrad says

“But I’m not sorry for this”I say while paddling in and leaving my paddle board on shore.When I get in back in the water I go to Conrad and splash him.

“What the hell!” He says laughing

“Sorry con”I said laughing

“Oh you better run”Conrad said laughing

“Connie I hate to break the news to you but…I can’t run we are in the water…”I said barley keeping it together

“That’s it”he says swimming back to shore. I have no idea why.he goes in the cooler where our drinks and snack are he grabs something and then it hit me.

“CONNIE.don’t.do. IT.please”I said swimming back to shore.

“I’m gonna do it”he said laughing”. I’m finally on shore and I run up to him and grab my phone from him. I put it back in the cooler while grabbing chips and it down on the towel.

“Connie we’ve been out here for 2 hours I want to go soon.”I told him while eating my chips

“Ok yea”he says grabbing a chip from the bag

“And make chicken and pasta with Alfredo sauce”I said pointing at him.

“You got it,but we will have to go to the store and get chicken.So get up and I’ll pack u can hold this stuff I got the paddle boards”Conrad said getting up. Conrad and I went to the store and are making dinner Jeremiah and Steven went to a party and belly and the moms are out doing stuff so it’s just me and Conrad.

“Mmmmm smells so good”Conrad said opening the back door because he left his phone outside.

“And I also found a friend looking for food”Conrad said and I turned my head and it was a puppy and honey colored pit bull

“Connie can we keep it please please pleaseeeeeee”I said jumping up and down

“Yes we can”he said smiling

“Only on one condition, you go on a date with me”he said looking at me while I hold the puppy

“Ok but I get to name her”I said with the biggest smile on my face

“I’m gonna call her honeybun”

“I love it”Conrad said petting her

“Ok let’s eat but let me plate the food”Conrad said moving to the food to plate

“We can give her some chicken”I said grabbing a bowl

“I’ll text bells to get puppy food”I said cutting up chicken for honeybun.

“Hey Belly so Conrad found a puppy and we are keeping her,her name is honeybun can u grab puppy food for her”

“Omggggggggg yes I will!”

Conrad and I are done eating and we are cuddling on the couch and honeybun is on my lap.And the front door swings open

“let me see the babyyyyyyyyyy”jere said

“Awwwwww did we miss the wedding?” Steven says laughing. They have been saying this for the longest time so I’m tired

“Yes you actually did”I said getting up and kissing Conrad so they would hopefully stop saying stuff like this

“Oh well im happy for you guys.”Steven said shocked bc he wasn’t expecting that type of response.

“O-M-G WHEN WERE YOU GONNA TELL US”Belly said yelling.I told her to be quiet because the puppy was tired.

“Ready to go to bed?”Conrad asked me and I said yes and I got up and picked up honeybun Conrad and I walked up the stairs.

“Hey where do you think your going?” He said grabbing my arm

“Um to my bedroom”I said

“No your not everyone thinks we are together. So you come sleep in my bedroom.” So I didn’t fight it and I got ready in his bathroom and he made a spot for honeybun to sleep on the floor with a pillow and blanket.

“Wow your hot”I said jokingly and he pulled me towards him and kissed me.

“Um Connie I love you”I said staring into his eyes

“I love you too” Conrad said kissing me again

“I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS FROM MY ROOM” Steven yelled in a cry

Conrad and I had a fun night last night and he woke up before me and we went downstairs in our swimsuits

“You guys could’ve been more quiet last night”Steven said

“Yea he has a point I heard you guys from my room”belly says walking in with honeybun.

“You guys ready to go in the pool?” I asked and they all said yes.

“I can’t look at them the same way anymore” belly whispers to the moms

“BELLY”Conrad says a little annoyed because he heard her

“I think it’s time for a BELLY FLOP”Jere and Steven say

Belly runs but the boys got her they throw her into the pool.

“I hate you guys” belly says the boys are laughing

I push Steven in he didn’t see it coming

“Really!?” Steven said in shock

“I got you Steven”Jeremiah says next thing I know I’m in the water.

“WHAT THE HECK” I said trying not to laugh

“Sorry”he laughs.

Splash Conrad runs and takes down Jeremiah they both fall in the water. We were having fun swimming the moms came out watched us play.Conrad and Jeremiah were jumping in Conrad came back up.

“Fuck shit ow what the fuck”Conrad says but it kinda sounds like a cry

“Connie baby, what's wrong?” I swam over to make sure he was all right

“I stepped on something, '' he said, lifting himself up to sit on the ledge.

Susahan is already next to him, Laurel is getting the first aid kid,belly Jere and Steven are in the pool next to me. I’m in front of Conrad.

“Why was there glass in the pool!” I yelled Turing to Steve and Jere. They probably drank last night.

“Con let’s get you to the ER” laurel said susahan

Tried to stay calm but you could tell she wasn’t . Laurel made me and the rest of the guys stay home.

It’s been 4 hours and I can't think about anything else but Conrad. Even honeybun could tell something was wrong she wouldn’t play. She just ate and walked back and forth with me. It's like she knew something was terribly wrong.

Laurel:We are on our way

Me:ok I’ll tell the others.

It’s been a day since Conrad got back from the ER. Honeybun is staying in belly’s room so she doesn’t step on his foot.

“Baby…I was so scared” I said while laying on his chest he was brushing his fingers through my hair.

“I know dove…it’s alright tho,I’m ok it’s nothing serious” He told me in a calm sweet voice

1999, part one

ok. this is my very first fic and the first time ive done any creative writing that isnt for a gcse english writing exam. this is part one of a mini series called "1999" (inspired by beabadoobee's song). im literally making it up as i go😍🙏.

please lmk what you think: should i scrap it or keep going? anything i should change?

and maybe repost if you feel extra generous :))

warnings: none!

conrad fisher masterlist

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Summer had always been a time Belly, Steven and I had looked forward to. Sure Christmas and Easter were beautiful and memorable, but there was something about spending our summer at Cousins Beach. We'd been doing it ever since we can remember. For a whole three months, the Conklins and the Fishers did everything together. It was like while the rest of our year was shit, summer was always there to turn it around. We watched fireworks together, surfed, barbequed, and pulled all-nighters out in the backyard in tents pretending we were far away from our parents in some other country when in reality they were only a few feet away drinking wine and talking. We spent every waking hour together for those three months. And now that we’re all older, we party together.

After Belly and I turned sixteen we started seeing the boys in a different light. It was like they were the same boys we’ve known all our lives but somehow different. 

Steven would make fun of us for what seemed like years on the car ride to Cousins whenever he heard us giggling and whispering about how Belly and Jeremiah were destined to be since he posted a reel with her favourite song (he can't even remember her favourite colour for the life of him). But whenever she’d ask me about Conrad I’d shake my head and blush trying to convince her I didn’t like him like that.

Conrad was…complicated. He was gorgeous and tall and perfect and way out of my league. Hell, he probably saw me as a sister to him and nothing more. I had seen him go through girls year after next and had slowly started to lose hope of there being an ‘us’ anyway.

My thoughts get interrupted by yet another loud sigh by Steven. I swear if I don't end up strangling him by the time we get there…

“I’m boredddd”, Steven sighs.

“Steven that's your tenth consecutive ‘I’m bored’  in a row, can’t you think of anything else to say?” Belly all but yells at him.

He lets out another sigh before I wack the side of his head from the backseat.

“Hey!” he yells out trying to get me back from the passenger seat while Belly laughs and starts recording the moment on her phone.

“Alright, kids can we dial down on the domestic abuse, please? I’d like to go at least a few hours before having to swallow another paracetamol from your headaches.”, Mom says obviously getting fed up with us.

Instead of arguing back I try and shut Steven up by asking him questions.

“So Stevie,” I start, giggling as he annoyingly groans at the nickname Belly, Taylor and I made up for him, “what are you…most excited for this summer?” I ask making up the question off the top of my head.

Steven thinks for a minute before answering, “Surfing for sure.” He nods.

“Drinking wine with Susannah.”, says Mom smiling at the thought of her best friend.

“Fourth of July.”, says Belly.

“You sure you’re not most excited to see Jere?” I nudge her with my elbow as she squeals and looks away.

“What about you honey, what are you most excited for?” Mom asks, looking at me through her rearview mirror.

“The bonfire.” I say, smiling.

I’ve always loved the bonfire. Everything about it, it's always such a vibe. The kegs, the fire, the songs, the smores. It's always been my favourite part of the summer.

Until this summer, when I brought my boyfriend to Cousins.

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“You guys ready for the bonfire, should we go down?” Conrad asks as he enters the living room. I look up at him from my position with Belly on the couch. God, I’d forgotten how pretty he was.

Conrad comes behind the couch and wraps his arms around my neck giving me a slight hug before pulling away, “I missed you.” he says looking down at me.

Before I can reply Steven speaks up, “Aw Connie, no worries man I’m here now,” he says smiling enthusiastically as he pulls Conrad towards the door by his shoulders while everyone laughs at his misunderstanding.

Conrad looks at me expectantly and takes out a small box from his pocket.

“Let's go, man,” Steven says to Conrad before pulling on him again, “I wanna show you this really cool trick I learned the other day…” He drones on as Conrad’s eyebrows furrow and he looks back at me, “Aren’t you coming?” he asks pointing at me questioningly.

I give him a sad smile before responding, “I’ll join you guys later, I’m gonna wait here for Dean he should be here soon.”

Just when I thought they couldn’t, Conrad’s eyebrows furrowed deeper.

“Who’s Dean?”

“Oh didn’t we tell you?,” Belly responds, “Y/n has a boyfriend.”

Conrad and Jeremiah’s faces were a sight to see. Eyes wide, mouths agape and eyebrows straight up, staring at me as if I had told them I got my eyeballs tattooed.

“Okay, you don't have to be that surprised…ouch.” I wince.

Conrad and Jeremiah straighten up and Jeremiah looks at me and smiles before saying, “No, no that’s…uhm that’s great Y/n.” He looks at Conrad halfway through his sentence as Conrad looks down at his feet and puts the box he was holding, in his pocket before turning to Steven and talking to him about setting the keg up for the bonfire and walking out the door without sparing a glance to me.

“That was weird.” I say to Belly as she leans in to give me a hug,

“Totally. What’s his deal?” she responds.

“Beats me.” I shrug before yelling “Have fun! Use protection!” out behind her and Jeremiah before Belly turns her head around and flips me off which just makes me and Jeremiah laugh harder.

I sigh and turn the tv on. With Mom, Susanna and everyone going out, I was the only one left to wait for Dean. I wonder how long he’ll be, I can’t wait to go to the bonfire. Luckily I got a text from him just as I decided on watching Gilmore Girls.

'hey, i'll be there in five :)'

whew that’s part one done! here’s part two!!

1999, part two

I will never understand how people still think Conrad is BETTER for Belly than Jeremiah. Conrad was Daisy Buchanan and Belly was Gatsby. Which is funny because of all the Gatsby references this season. Jeremiah always loved Belly. Everybody is saying no Jere only started liking Belly the “summer she turned pretty” but did you see the flashbacks, Jeremiah has always been in love with Belly but always put her before him even if it meant not being with her. Conrad played with Belly’s heart all of season 1. Them almost kissing and then Conrad being an ass about it. When Jeremiah and Belly kissed Jere checked with Belly the next day to make sure they were still okay. Both boys Jeremiah and Conrad thought the Debutant Ball was stupid only difference is that when Belly asked Jere he agreed even though nobody thought even his own mother that he would ever go to one. And everybody is saying how Jere reacted to finding out Belly and Conrad kissed was over the top and dramatic but when Conrad found out Belly and Jere had kissed before hand he was like okay… flash forward to season 2 episode 8 and Conrad’s reaction to seeing Belly and Jeremiah kissing. Yes Jere had a reaction to finding out Belly and Conrad kissed because Belly and him had been “together” even if they weren’t dating. And Conrad’s reaction was so much worse this season when him and Belly were no longer together. Also Conrad essentially slut shaming his brother, not okay. And when Jeremiah wanted to keep his distance from Belly when they went to find Conrad and he wanted to stay mad he couldn’t. But Conrad’s reaction to seeing Belly at the summer house : “What’s she doing here” like wtf do you think you are. Conrad doesn’t communicate with Belly, he thinks he knows her so well but in reality he really doesn’t. While Jeremiah is always there for Belly and communicates with her. Also Conrad telling both Belly and Jeremiah to “grow up” when in reality he needs to grow up. Even Belly told Jeremiah that they had grown up and things were different. And the whole funeral thing when Conrad tells Belly he knew it was a mistake starting something with her and that entire thing like why was everybody only mad at Belly, Conrad was also very much in the wrong here. Belly wasn’t trying to make that day about her. Susannah was literally Belly’s second mom. Susannah’s death was hard for all of them. And I’m not denying that Belly and Conrad had some cute moments but they were so toxic for each other and manipulative. The both of them. And Jere was also a bit “toxic” don’t get me wrong but if you compare how the two of them treat Belly it’s clear who treats her better. And in episode one of season two when Belly calls Jeremiah, she calls him first, Jere was like oh did Conrad not answer but Belly called him not Conrad. Belly and Jeremiah were always best friends and that’s the best way to turn into something more. So excuse me for being TEAM JEREMIAH all the way, since episode one.

I don’t think Jere had any right to be annoyed at Conrad for kissing belly. They weren’t significant others in any definition of the term, they had only kissed a few times, which he had done with several other people that summer. Jere hadn’t been hinting at all how he felt. In fact he had many opportunities to, at the bonfire before she met cam, but some other girl called him away and he went to flirt with her instead.

Conrad didn’t break up with belly at her prom, she broke up with him. He just wanted to go home to his mum and kept saying how bad he felt for letting her down on that night, he even asked her “don’t do this” but she left him. Conrad went home to his mum as much as he could, and we saw in season one how much he took care of her. But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t allowed to spend time with belly or that he should of spent that time with his mum instead, seeing belly and being supported by her was one of the only happy things he had in his life.

I do think that Jere needed permission to kiss belly after she broke up with Conrad. Sorry but, kissing your brothers ex, two months after they broke up and one month after your mum died isn’t something I believe is okay to do. Jere also does talk badly of Conrad, he tells belly that Conrad will break her heart, he also insults Conrad to his face and says he’s not someone he would ever want to know which is horrible.

He’s constantly telling people to grow up because that’s what he’s been forced to do, so he finds it difficult that others don’t have to do the same. He’s always been told by his dad and both mums that he has to look after everyone because he’s the oldest, even though it’s only by one year. That kind of pressure is insane for an 18 year old.

Him and Nicole were never exclusive or in a relationship, he does apologise for leading her on, and accepts accountability for that. But they were never exclusive, and Nicole even says that her feelings aren’t hurt, he just wasted her time. He shuts everybody out BECAUSE he puts them first, he doesn’t want to burden them with his problems. Which is why he doesn’t tell anyone about his mums cancer. I’m not saying it’s healthy or good, but it is coming from a place of care for others over himself. He’s been told he has to take care of them all, so he shields them from his problems.

His reaction and response to them kissing I feel was justified, they were kissing on his car, and campus, when they only broke up two months ago. And were together for at least six months and slept together. If you feel that you can rationalise Jeres reaction and say it’s normal for him to be pissed, when he had only shared a couple of kisses with belly. Then surely you can see why Conrad would be upset that his brother kissed his ACTUAL ex girlfriend. Who he had a serious relationship with.

No I very much see how Conrad being pissed that Jeremiah and Belly were kissing on his car is rational. I just feel that everything he said wasn’t justified. He slut shamed Jeremiah which is not okay. And I never said I don’t like Conrad. I understand Conrad. I just think that Jeremiah is better for Belly. Also the fact that the two of them slept together should have any impact on their other relationships. It was a special moment for them but does not mean they owe each other anything.

And I do think Jere being upset at Belly and Conrad kissing is valid too. Both boys have feelings for Belly so it’s going to be upsetting no matter who it is.

Jeremiah was very subtle with how he felt but if you remember the pool scene when Jeremiah is saying that he’s been waiting for his time. He had stepped back when she went after Cam and he stood back because he knew that Belly had been crushing on Conrad for years. But he felt that it was his chance to be something more.

The prom break up I do admit was very messy and unclear. Belly felt Conrad pulling away from her and thought he was breaking up with her. And Conrad wasn’t being very clear about the situation and he was walking people out because he was going through a lot. It was a bunch of miscommunication which is what I was saying in the first place. They communicated with each other poorly.

And I wasn’t saying that Conrad shouldn’t have spent any time with Belly, they were dating and I love that he went out of his way to be with her. But Jeremiah’s frustration of having to go through it (Susannah’s death) alone while Conrad was at school is also valid. And I know Conrad loved and cared for his mom but school took a toll on that. I’m not saying that he never went to visit his mom and brother but it was definitely rough on all of them.

Yes Jere does tell Belly that Conrad is going to break her heart, and we’ll be did. He was pissed that he was losing Belly to Conrad and that his mom was dying. But he never talks bad about him to other people besides that. And yes Jeremiah says some really cruel things to Conrad this season and I’m not trying to excuse him for this but Conrad did belittle Jeremiah’s emotions. When Belly told Conrad that Jeremiah had told Belly that he had feeling for them and that they had kissed, Conrad says that Jeremiah won’t care because he doesn’t take anything seriously and flirts with everybody. But when Jeremiah was “with” Belly he was very loyal to her.

And yes while Nicole and Conrad were never really official or exclusive they were still “seeing” each other. And being led on by someone for them to text somebody else you’ve become close to that what they said earlier was a lie and he really wanted to ask her. Also after telling Nicole that he was going to ask Belly ONLY because his mom was making him.

On the aspect of him telling people to grow up though, I don’t entirely agree with you there. Conrad might of had to grow up sooner than he should have but so did Jeremiah. Jere was literally handling Susannah’s medical bills and the insurance. Which no kid should have to do. But as somebody who went through something “similar” in a way where I had to grow up before I should of had to at 9 I can’t understand fully Conrad’s behavior.

And I do agree that the parents are way too hard on him but sometimes that comes with being the oldest, which doesn’t make it okay. But Adam (the boys dad) was also never so easy on Jeremiah either. He constantly compared them to each other and made Jere feel bad that he wasn’t athletic and that he wasn’t playing football.

Conrad walling people off was not entirely him trying to protect them. I do think it was his own coping mechanism though. And I mean a lot of people do it. But I understand how the people around him felt hurt by him when he did it. He should have told his mom that he knew about the cancer, that way Susannah not Conrad had to go through all that alone. And I do think that Conrad should have told Jeremiah about it as well but I also see how it’s not his place to tell him. But again I’m not saying Conrad is doing it to be mean but that’s how a lot of people first hand may end of viewing it.

Also I never said nor will I ever say that Conrad doesn’t put other people first it’s just in a very different way and people may not know it.

All I’m saying is that Jeremiah and Belly are the better couple. All three of them have their issues and flaws that they need to work on but they also have beautiful things about them.

I suppose we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I think it’s very easy for jelly to be seen as a better couple, but that’s because they don’t really care enough about each other for there to be passion or tension. They clearly lust after each other a lot, and I do believe they have a great friendship, but that’s all I see there, whereas with Conrad it’s a true deep love, maybe messy at the start but deeper nonetheless.

I think Jeres an easy rebound for belly. Which she even basically admits, when she says to Taylor that she will never be able to love anyone the way she loves Conrad, and she goes onto tell Jere that she wants Conrad but will settle for him because he’s real. As much as I dislike jere I do think he deserves better than that. And ultimately that’s what will happen in season three I suppose. My only wonder is if they will stick with the cheating storyline, or leave it trying to paint Jeremiah in a positive light and have belly and Conrad get back together in a different way.

I guess we will. I see the passion in both relationships. Both Conrad and Jeremiah truly love Belly. But I do think Conrad and Belly was just a built up what could be that it would never live up to what Belly imagined. Cause to her Conrad was a dream. And I think what Belly said to Jeremiah wasn’t that she was settling for him but that because they’ve grown up Belly realized that Conrad could never be what she wanted him to be but Jeremiah loves her and she loves him. Jeremiah is there fighting for her this season and I think Belly also really starts fighting for her relationship with Jeremiah too.

As for seeing Jelly as the better couple I actually very rarely see people saying that. Everybody typically is always like Bonrad because Belly had been in love with Conrad for so long. And I also wouldn’t call Jeremiah a rebound. There was a 2 month or so gap between the break up and the get together.

As for Belly not being able to love anybody the way she loved Conrad that honestly makes sense. A first love is always remembered and is always different. It’s a point where everything is new and great and nothing compares. But that doesn’t mean the next person you love, you love any less. It’s a different type of love. You’ll always love your first love. It’s the love of the fact that you were in love and got to feel it.

Maybe it’s a difference in opinion but I feel two months is a very short bounce back from your first relationship. Especially when you’re bouncing back in a stage of grieving and onto his brother. As for Jelly fans maybe you’re on the wrong corner of this web! The majority I’ve seen out there esp on TikTok and tumblr are jelly skippers and I’ve seen jelly edits with like close to a million likes. So there’s definitely people out there that share your opinion. I think they both think they love each other, but if the show follows the books they will both realise that they don’t know or love each other in anymore than a platonic way. Which I feel is what’s being foreshadowed already. But it’s interesting to hear different opinions. Especially when they’re respectful as you are.

I agree I think we definitely view and understand the characters differently and that’s okay.

Two months though while not a lot is also a lot. A lot can happen. And I agree it does seem a little fast but Jeremiah already knew he loved Belly and Belly I feel had been thinking more about him recently and she realized it was him for her. But I do see how it seems very just forced. And Conrad technically wasn’t Belly’s first relationship but he was her first love

I love being repeatedly being called a bitch and that I should go into the fertilization business because I am defending a character. Like I haven’t even bashed any other characters but that you. Go defend how Conrad is also a toxic asshole. Neither of the boys are perfect. Also the TV show is not exactly the book. Try watching the show with an open mind and look at how they both treat Belly and each other. I believe Jeremiah wasn’t worried about Cam being with Belly because he didn’t think Cam would hurt Belly but he knew that no matter how it ended with Belly and Conrad it would hurt her.

i can't believe the "sometimes i think you're a little too good at being fine" "isn't that what everyone wants me to be?" scene exists and people STILL think conrad is the neglected one in that family.

I'm both Team Jeremiah and Team Conrad, so I always stay winning 😎. LOL, but I do love both boys even if I may complain about Conrad sometimes.

Conrad Fisher makes me fucking feral.

I see him and I start foaming at the mouth

The things he does to me 😪😪

I’d let him do anything to me

“the summer i betrayed my sister”

pov: you’re bellys hotter sister and she found out you hooked up with conrad.

“you hooked up with Conrad didn’t you y/n” my sister yelled bursting into my room, I could tell she’d been crying because her eyes were red and she looked puffy.

“belly what are talking about.?” i felt my stomach sink, she knew? but how. all i could do was pretend so i let out a dry laugh.

“i know you slept with Conrad” belly looked at me like i had just shot her in the heart.

“belly- i didn’t“ I was at a loss for words. nothing i could do would fix my mistake. it was irreversible.

“i always knew you were a liar but i never thought my sister was a whore” she yelled loud enough for the whole world to hear.

my tears began to fall. “we both were drunk and sad it meant nothing” she slapped me hard it stung. she ran into the kitchen where my mom was and i followed. before i could stop her belly declared my business out for everyone to hear.

“your perfect y/n isn’t as pure as you thought because she slept with Conrad….” my mom stopped mixing the batter and her face turned a pale white. steven glared at conrad and conrad looked as shocked as i was.

before my mom or susannah could say a word belly took out her phone and showed a photo of me leaving conrads room last night without my top on. Jeremiah…. It had to have been him. he told belly.

“she’s a slut. she couldn’t even keep her hands off conrad- even though she already had Jeremiah wrapped around her fingers”

conrad got up off the couch, my tears fell and all i felt i could do was run. so run i did.

“y/n/n wait” he grabbed his car keys and ran after me.

he grabbed my hand and kissed me and i kissed back, i had nothing left to lose. “let’s go somewhere before steven and jeremiah find us”