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The idea that trans women should be allowed in single sex spaces for cis women is completely contradicted by the man vs. bear discourse. Ignore that I keep going back to the meme - maybe it's still doing numbers, I don't know, but it's good shorthand either way. If you think men are inherently suspicious and dangerous, ask yourself: why does that not apply to trans women?

What, exactly, does a trans woman do to make herself different from men? How are you not advocating a belief in male socialization which can only logically apply to trans women as much as it does cis men? It boggles the mind how, if that's a true concept, one could simply self-identify out it. Yet, the way transradfems talk, literally the only thing that distinguishes an AMAB better-than-bear from an AMAB worse-than-bear is that the former says they're totally better than a bear and you should take their word for it, which if men are really Like That should be of little comfort or security.

Some, even, will make impassioned defenses of butch trans women, which as a butch trans woman is great. But then they'll go on about how evil men are, and how innocent and victimized trans women are, and I wonder, what, exactly, differs an especially trans woman from a man to them? If, like me, a trans butch woman doesn't always wear clearly feminine clothes, has body hair, maybe even a shade of facial hair, and doesn't at all try to train her voice, you're going to be uncomfortable with them right up until they realize they forgot to put their pin on and you see the she/her. Apparently that flips the switch from someone you desperately don't want to be alone with to someone you're totally fine undressing in front of?

All that sounds like TERFism, which is exactly the problem. The transradfem version of reality is one where TERF talking points are completely logical. They are not logical in my version of reality, YOU have constructed a system perfect for them to operate in, that their ideology is fantastic for pointing out errors of reasoning in, as if it was deliberately crafted by them to be deconstructed. I would not at all be surprised if that's the origin of a lot of transradfeminism, a psyop to make the trans community weaker with logic knots that TERFism can swing through like the Gordian Knot.

If you accept man vs. bear, TERFism is the only logical conclusion. If you don't, as I don't, then it isn't.

The only alternative is that you think being a woman is the only thing anyone should be and "choosing" to be a man is morally inferior. Which I shouldn't have to tell you is horrifying. It's also again incongruous with at least your defense of butch trans women - what exactly defines a "man" and a "woman" when a butch trans woman doesn't have to try to pass at all? You are literally saying all of this, gender, transmisogyny, misogyny, hinges entirely on pronouns and a difference of two letters in the name of what they call themselves, someone is dangerous or not depending on if they go by he/him or not.

TERFs will see this and be like "yeah! exactly!" BUT MY POINT IS USING THAT TO SHOW YOU SHARE THE SAME FOUNDATIONAL LOGIC AS THEM. If you don't want TERFs to have a point then you can stop accepting their worldview any day now! Come join me and frolic freely where we think TERFs are wrong!

I never feel more alienated from the trans community in general and other transfems in particular than when I see people going after "TMEs" and "transandrophobia truthers" and so on, ostensibly in the name of defending people like me. Or derailing their own perfectly decent points about transmisogyny by including some irrelevant, gratuitous dig at transmascs (or intersex people or "theyFABs" or whoever the target of the day is).

What the fuck are you doing? Do you get some kind of rush from deflecting TERFisms onto targets you've decided are more deserving or privileged than yourselves? What are you trying to achieve? If you want to do some weird 70s separatism tribute act then please just go your own way already and leave everyone else alone.

As a transfem who is not a woman and doesn't pass as one I don't trust "TMA/TME" proponents to have my back in any case. And I'm much more wary of engaging with trans spaces than I used to be because of this bullshit.

I'm so sorry to everyone who has been fucked over by this tendency. I hope we can get over it. Can we please collectively at least try to get a grip and maybe rethink how we're doing things a little bit? Because unless the goal really is self-cannibalization it's not working is it?

It really fucking irks me, as a trans woman, to have “trans rights” invoked so incompetently and so blatantly in contradiction to the reality of who is causing the problems and who is the biggest threat.

Oh my God yes. I'm trans. Genderfluid specifically. As a young kid, I *was* a girl. I am not now, but I was. I've also been a boy. I've had no gender, I've had all gender. If you identify with a term in good faith (eg. A black person using the n word to describe themself, gay using the f slur to describe themself, and more) then that's fine. It goes beyond slurs too. Transsexual, FtM, MtF, whatever. If someone IDs with a term, let them use it

don't use "ftm" it's outdated and offensive. it implies that the trans person was their agab, which we never were. i was always a boy, never a girl who became a boy.

i'm 35 years old. i've been IDing as trans or something similar to trans for nearly 20 years. i was probably calling myself FTM while you were playing tag during recess, anon.

i WAS a girl. i IDed as a girl early in my life. i recognized myself as a girl, called myself a girl, lived as a girl, and was a girl. who then IDed as a man. hence, F t M.

spend more time worrying about yourself instead of strangers on the internet, anon.

sorry not sorry if this comes off as needlessly hostile, but i've been getting a lot of shit from a lot of teenage trans kids about the language i use to describe my own goddamn experience, and i'm growing real fuckin weary of it.

i have elder trans friends who call themselves transsexuals and transvestites and trannies. are you going to seriously go to a 60-year-old trans person who survived the reagan years and tell her she's not allowed to use certain language to describe herself because it might offend the delicate sensibilities of some teenager on the internet?

do yourself a favor and log off, find some real-life trans people who are over the age of 20 or 25, and spend time talking to them instead of getting all holier-than-thou at random strangers on tumblr.

@ people who tell me not to call myself transsexual (even though I feel much more comfortable being called that) and not to say that I was born in the wrong body (even though I was).

hot take uh

dont get mad at trans ppl for using the “wrong”/out of date terminology to describe their own experiences like

if a trans dude says “back when i was a girl” or “i was born in the wrong body” just. let them. if they feel it describes their experiences the best, then it’s good for them

as long as theyre not using it to describe other people who may not be comfortable with, it’s ok

don't use "ftm" it's outdated and offensive. it implies that the trans person was their agab, which we never were. i was always a boy, never a girl who became a boy.

i'm 35 years old. i've been IDing as trans or something similar to trans for nearly 20 years. i was probably calling myself FTM while you were playing tag during recess, anon.

i WAS a girl. i IDed as a girl early in my life. i recognized myself as a girl, called myself a girl, lived as a girl, and was a girl. who then IDed as a man. hence, F t M.

spend more time worrying about yourself instead of strangers on the internet, anon.

sorry not sorry if this comes off as needlessly hostile, but i've been getting a lot of shit from a lot of teenage trans kids about the language i use to describe my own goddamn experience, and i'm growing real fuckin weary of it.

i have elder trans friends who call themselves transsexuals and transvestites and trannies. are you going to seriously go to a 60-year-old trans person who survived the reagan years and tell her she's not allowed to use certain language to describe herself because it might offend the delicate sensibilities of some teenager on the internet?

do yourself a favor and log off, find some real-life trans people who are over the age of 20 or 25, and spend time talking to them instead of getting all holier-than-thou at random strangers on tumblr.

Beautifully put. /gen

Y’all realize that by attacking other trans people

(Non Binary people, Trans people with less prominent dysphoria)

Y’all are helping transphobes,

Here’s how

You are blaming these different forms of trans people for transphobia rather than blaming the transphobes

Every moment y’all spend pointlessly attacking other trans people is time not spent getting rights for the community

By being assholes and exclusive, you’re not only pushing many people out of the community, not only dropping your forces, but you’re scaring many trans people into the closet (which is bad)

You’re all making yourselves look like massive assholes, which does worse to help your credibility than “tucutes” do (the “tucute” trans community may look “silly” but it’s positive and based on self expression, the Transmed trans community is based on exclusion, gatekeeping, and self hatred [as self hatred is literally a requirement])*

*you may say I’m “hypocritical” for saying transmed trans people are to blame for more transphobia, but you guys are directly spreading hate and feeding into transphobic ideas. (Said transphobic ideas being, “You can disrespect someone’s pronouns and identity if they’re xyz”)

All in all, Transmeds do more harm than “tucutes”

All Tucute harm is alleged and illegitimate (read bullet 1) It’s transphobic people’s fault for their transphobia, not other trans people for giving them “the wrong idea”

Transmed harm is real, and it’s based on hate, exclusion and paranoia.

Y’all are wasting your time!

Most Transmed ideology stems from

Ignorance

Intolerance

Insecurity

Pride

Some of y’all just don’t understand Non Binary or people with different lesser forms of dysphoria. You can not understand something and still respect it. As long as it’s not literally fundamentally against you human dignity or identity. Educate yourself, it’s better to admit it and learn than stay ignorant

Y’all intolerant people are similar to the ignorant people, in that since you don’t vibe with it, you feel the need to shun it. First of all, that’s the exact mindset of many bigots so check yourself. Second of all, y’all need to get off your high horse. You are in no position to say that someone else is not valid. Despite what you believe, “tucutes” are not a threat to the trans community (see above points) and aren’t harmful. So just let them be. So what if they aren’t trans? We have bigger fish to fry hun. (Remember, hardly anything give transphobic more power, than y’all attacking other trans people instead of fighting transphobia)

I know some of y’all have good intentions and just wanna protect your community. I also understand that it may be scary to think that non trans people could be invading the trans community. But seriously, think about who your true enemy is, people who, most likely, genuinely believe that they are trans and mean no harm, and are just exploring their identity, or bigots who literally want all forms of trans people to be erased. You don’t need to be ashamed of your trans identity. We’re all valid (except hateful people)

It’s good to be proud of your identity and community. But to be prideful to the point where you feel the need to put others down is wrong. There’s self love and pride, and then there’s selfishness and pride. It’s selfish to say that anyone who hasn’t suffered like you have or isn’t like you isn’t valid. It’s selfish and prideful to say that only people like you are special and trans and anyone else isn’t valid. I know it may be nice to take something that’s been a source of pain, and turn it into a source of pride. But you should pride yourself on your identity, not your suffering

“Tucutes” are just trying to live their lives comfortably like everyone else. They’re not our enemy. transphobes who actively try and take rights from trans people are

“Tucutes” are not to blame for transphobia. Transphobes are.

Side note: y’all say that being trans is a terrible thing that isn’t cool and shouldn’t want to be. Yet you guys up it on this pedestal and decide it’s worth gatekeeping? What sense does that make

Honest final thoughts:

… why are we having this conversation?! It’s s waste of time! There are homeless trans kids and trans people being killed! And instead of handling that, we’re arguing over this shit?! Again, I know people will say “It’s the tucutes’ fault this is happening” but not only is that not legit. That’s still not doing anything to fix what’s happening.

This is a waste of time! Stop wasting time being transmed or truscum! Do something that matters!

We are NOT in a stable enough position in terms of treatment and rights to be able to start nitpicking who’s trans or not

(This isn't directly directed at OP, but I need an excuse to ramble about this stuff lmao.)

I'm not inherently against truscum, either. However, from what I've seen they appear to just use their rhetoric to invalidate other people. That's what I'm against. I have seen so many bad examples of the trumed community that I have trouble believing that anyone who identifies as truscum/trumed is a good person. Because more often than not– and this my opinion– they're a hateful group of people. They hate themselves for being trans, and they hate others who are happy to be trans. And that is pitiful to me.

However, I can understand looking at a GNC trans person, or a non-dysphoric trans person, and thinking "wow, they're making a mockery of something I struggle with. How dare they!" But how dare ANYONE police other people's identities? They can say that they care about these "trenders" all they want, but they don't. It's so obvious that they don't, because if they did, they wouldn't constantly berate these GNC and non-dysphoric trans people. They wouldn't be invalidating their identities. Use your truscum logic to validate your own identity, but don't use it to invalidate others and expect to be accepted by the wider trans community.

Fuck off and let people use xenogenders. Let people use neopronouns. Because as much as it feels that they're mocking your struggles, they aren't. It's their personal identity and it doesn't invalidate their experiences (or yours!). pressuring people to be dysphoric, pressuring them to want to be cis and not have fun with their gender, is ASTRONOMICALLY fucked up.

If a truscum comes across this post, I want you to know that I don't hate you or your group. I hope that you can find peace within yourself, without hurting others. Being trans isn't a disease, a horrendous thing (though it can feel like it is). It can be hard sometimes, but it doesn't have to be ugly.

Have a good moment in time, whoever is reading this post. <3

Wondering if the whole “need dysphoria” to be trans thing” Is actually harming youth

Now I’m not against transmeds/truscums. Im not even against trucutes! But as a teenage person I spend 90% of my time purposefully forcing dysphoria onto me to ensure that I am “trans and not faking it”

It makes me feel like I don’t know who I am anymore. Countless rituals of just me doing the same thing to make sure im trans and not faking it or I get euphoria.

 On those few days I don’t give a fuck, I’m so much more happier. I don’t care if I’m “100% trans guy” or “100% cis girl”: I’m just me! And I’ve heard other people feel pressured too thanks to the dysphoria thing.

In a patriarchal society, cis men have privilege over cis women. Trans people operate on a different system due to the fact general society does not regard them as their gender, or treat them accordingly.

This is basic shit.

Of course, you will never engage in any actually good faith conversation about that though.

I don't know why this has to be spelled out, but if you are arguing that there are biases against women in society (true) because of the patriarchy, and how these biases are unconscious and therefore present even in the most progressive spaces...

You cannot simultaneously argue that unconscious transphobic biases are not present, and people don't unconsciously treat trans men closer to women then they do men.

There's some science quote out there that goes something like:

'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, if it doesn't agree with the practical its wrong'.

(let me know what the full quote is if you know it)

And I can't help but compare that to transandrophobic rhetoric which says that trans mascs have privilege over trans fems due to them being men.

And yes, in theory this is somewhat coherent, if oversimplified. Trans men are men, patriarchy values men. Therefore trans men should be more valued.

The problem is this doesn't check out. Trans men face the highest rates of domestic violence, IPV, sexual abuse, sexual assault, social ostracisation, isolation, mental health issues, denial of medical treatment, suicide attempts and more.

So even without having to get into WHY your oversimplified theory is bullshit, you should know. Its bullshit. it doesn't hold up.

Try Again.

Seeing transphobic people on tumblr is so funny. Like what are you doing here??? This is the hellsite that will headcanon an entire cast of characters as trans for no other reason than because they can. That’s like jumping into the middle of a bar fight when you have no fighting skills whatsoever. Nobody likes you bestie lol