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Rewatching Nightmare Time and listing things that aren't appreciated enough (3)
Jane's A Car
the opening music video, most of them are at least a little underrated, but this one is both a banger and hilarious
Jeff's literature professor character, who, as far as I'm concerned, after his treatment became the principal of Hachetfield High
All the double entendre in the first half of the story
The "Intimate" joke at the start, and also Paulkins
Call back to Santa Claus Is Goin' To High School
Tom actually gets it on with his possessed car, I know that's he joke, but we really should take a moment to process this fully.
The car puns from both Tom and Jane ("behind my back seat", "drives me crazy")
For that matter, the whole plot is a backseat driver joke
The way Jamie and Kim did that last line
The Witch In The Web
Pamela is an awful person but I commend her choice in men
The fact that the mantra of the Hachetmen is literally Sam Reimi's three laws of horror
Wiley's jacket is stolen from one of the alternate timeline Holloway's he's murdered
Willabella's monster form is likely a reference to the other mother from Coraline
The credits track is basically a distrack Webby wrote for her brothers
"FROM THE BLACK BOOK?!"
yet another charity comm,,,wilbur/holloway/duke toxic polycule anyone?
I have spent so much time thinking about the miss holloway musical WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN and I need to spill my thoughts about it
there is no point or end to this it’s just a brain fart of all the thoughts I’ve been having so enjoy I guess lmfao
“backstory”. it will be about her backstory. was she an 80’s music star who sold her mortal life for fame in a deal that backfired on her?? or was she a woman with the gift about to be hanged by the hatchet men who saved herself by making that same deal?? HOW FAR BACK DOES THIS GO IS WHAT IM ASKING WE KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT THIS WOMAN
if it’s the former, I would love to maybe have mariah as casey (the girl with the gift in the witchwood who asked for her autograph) be an actual character who holloway maybe tries to help. also kim singing 80’s songs fuck yeah
and if it’s the latter then,,, oh wow. some heavy musical numbers, a shitload of hatchetmen / church of the starry children lore, and maybe another form of the lords in black (maybe the creepy hooded figures that we see drawn in the black book???)
also sorry EDIT I just looked at this picture again and the middle one (probably wiggly) is holding a knife. there’s no fucking way that’s not the black blade this is absolutely miss holloway guys omggggg
I would love to see this scene on stage with kim!!!! this would make 5 different forms of the LIB that we’ve seen / heard about (dolls, teens / humans, their true forms, wiggly in made in america, and whatever this is). I’m just imagining you see these black hooded figures, and then in the pro-shot you get a good look inside their hoods… and their faces are NOT human. like just imagine a massive purple eye staring out of one of those hoods, maybe even moving and blinking, a cool animatronic thing. SO CREEPY!! I also love the idea of switching up the actors again - I love jon so much as wiggly and I don’t think they would change him bc of his voice, but with the rest of them I think any actor can play a LIB which opens up so many possibilities…
I also would love to know how miss holloway met duke, and potentially even how many times they have met and then he had to forget her. considering the fact that we now have weird lore about his dad in 2005, did she know duke when he was younger?? did she help him out when he was a teenager, or help his dad?? is it a family thing, like she’s vowed to watch over the keane family or something??
duke’s dad is a big part of this tbh, because what a random insane lore / backstory drop, like WHAT? I genuinely have no idea what douglas keane sr’s murder could be about, except that it ties in to duke and to wilbur. and shows that 2005 is SO DAMN IMPORTANT
2005 was the year hannah was born, the year the portal to the black and white was created, the year wilbur cross went insane and became a disciple of the LIB, the year miss holloway took on the mantle of “miss holloway”, and (very likely) the year miss holloway and wilbur fought. so i think it’s safe to say that the musical itself will be set in 2005, which to me means macnamara and wilbur backstory alongside holloway and duke, which is very very fun
I like the idea that wilbur and macnamara were canonically together, and I really want to see pre-LIB wilbur. I also love the idea of macnamara and holloway working together or even becoming friends - despite being set a decade and a half before nightmare time, it would feel like the culmination of the two hanging plot threads / overarching arcs to me. also the idea that it was holloway who introduced macnamara to the paranormal and therefore essentially set up PEIP and doomed wiley is some juicy stuff that I would LOVE to see, especially if either macnamara or wiley lived in hatchetfield as kids and miss holloway helped them, inspiring whichever one of them to set up PEIP
ok so leading off of that I have a clear vision of a potential final scene that is driving me insane, and that’s the main reason why I patched together this post.
the final scene is the fight between miss holloway and wilbur, the one that happens in every single timeline.
and the basic idea is that we see both fights at once. there’s a song, and the stage is like black friday and spies are forever, with a level above the stage the actors can walk up to and stand on. joey and kim sing, and do their bit on the stage, but above the stage there are either doubles or a projection, mirroring the choreography. only in the pro-shot version, they would splice in joey and kim playing both pairs, which I just think would turn out looking really awesome despite being tricky to pull off live.
and yeah basically at the exact same time, one wilbur stabs holloway, and the other holloway stabs wilbur, creating a gorgeous visual representation of the newly splintered timelines.
either that or they do a trail to oregon and just do a different ending each night, and then splice them together in the pro-shot like I was saying. but I personally prefer the first one, if they’re able to pull it off and make it look good
and duke shows up just after that, having followed miss holloway throughout the story so far. and in the universe where wilbur’s dead, miss holloway makes him forget it all, hence this being the year that she takes on the new name and the fact that we know he has forgotten about her / her true past before. and then in the universe where holloway is dead, he holds her as she dies in his arms. bonus points if we get dying holloway saying “please don’t forget me” and living holloway saying “you have to forget me”. oh and just to be cruel, both dukes saying “I could never forget you” at the same time :) stew on that for a bit. yeah. fuck you I guess lol I woke up and chose violence today apparently
the idea of the two of them finding each other again after that in some timelines is just gorgeous to me, especially given the fact that NMT3 seems to suggest them finding each other AGAIN after she needs to make him forget. truly star crossed lovers they are so insane for this
in summary I guess what I’m trying to say is I think it will include miss holloway’s full backstory and then be mostly set in 2005, and centre around the opening of the black and white portal (macnamara and wilbur), miss holloway meeting duke (wilbur murdering duke’s dad, possibly something with lex and hannah if duke was already a social worker) and eventually the big fight between holloway and wilbur, ending in the audience seeing both potential endings. also obviously a reference to hannah’s birth because that seemed to be some kind of catalyst. thank you for coming to my utterly deranged ted talk goodbye
@frankpricely
ok. so. i still stand by john/howard/wilbur. i do!
BUT
this picture. gives me thoughts.
unfortunately it is tired and thoughts are jumbled but i will add to this in morning dw. i have plans for them.
Fun Fact: I named this file "if i had a wiggly for every time joey played a villain consumed by magic powers beyond their comprehension expressed through green light i'd have way more wigglys than anyone can handle but its weird that it happened twice" because I couldn't get it out of my head so welcome back to art that's specifically funny to only me and combine it with "I'll just do a quick simple drawing" that goes a bit out of hand anyway....eh it happens
Wiggly brought Wilbur Cross into the Black and White (No colorized).
They are slightly different in appearance from the original, and I added the AU tag because I drew this meme for the "Black and White Reverse AU" that my friend and I came up with, so I thought it would be reasonable.
Well, I’ll throw in a random theory(???). Okay, this is less of a theory and more of a “What if” kind of thinking. What if Wilbur killed Duke's father after the portal incident because Duke's father was part of P.E.I.P and was present at this? There's no reason for this, I just thought it would be cool.
I want him so bad
Guys will literally become a servant to eldritch gods and help with their malicious schemes, and get a cool jacket before going to therapy
AWOOOOOOOOOGA
THE DISCIPLE
This may have taken 9 hours who are you why are you asking.
I have so many feelings about this guy. If we never find out what happened to him in the black and white to twist him this bad I’m gonna lose it I’m actually gnawing at the bars of my enclosure give me more Wilbur content Nick lang please please please please please
Also yes the dating sim is still being worked on whoopeee
BARKBARKBARKBARKBARK
It's that time of the year again, fellow consumers 🍏🔥
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Question, would anyone else explode (either positively or negatively) if Wilbur from black friday called them little fella/lady or is that just a me thing?
OOOOOOO MY GOSHHHHH YESSSSS
BABY GRILL
Ok James Tolbert Wilbur Cross... hear me out
MOOTS SUPPORTING MOOTS
Since I just made a whole post about my art, here’s today’s school doodle dump :D
This happened, she said this, she told me so /j
More of the guy ever, Wilbur Cross
THE QUEEN EVER LINDA MONROE👏👏👏
The little stand Wilbur does during Wiggly’s part in Made in America
This is the pose I’m talking about:
POV: Your name’s Wilbur Cross (it’s Miss Holloway btw)
Nibbly nomming on his lollipop
Tim. That’s it. Just Tim. He’s very tiny. He fits in my pocket
Also, new addition to my art and writing posts:
IF YOU LIKE MY ART, PLEASE REBLOG :3
every time I eat a green apple I get reminded of… him…
does anyone have a close up picture of wilburs pins on his jacket?
Hatchetfield Requests!
All of these are from Blinky's Rewatch Party Discord server.
Sorry, it's a long one lmao.
I’ve been seeing a lot of comic dubs lately and wanted to give one a try with one that’s been on my brain! Original comic done by @itsdefinitely, I own none of the art