At Some Point, We Have To Wonder If Viv Knows That She's Got An Inherently Unlikeable Character On Her

At some point, we have to wonder if Viv knows that she's got an inherently unlikeable character on her hands

Why else would she go out of her way to make everyone else look bad?

Via, Stella, Mammon, Hell- even Blitz when he's not playing to Stolas' tune.

I started being apathetic towards Stolas when he was kidnapped in Western energy, given how hard they were pushing him, I knew Stolas wasn't going to be seriously hurt or killed.

If there's one criticism about the show Viv knows is valid, it's that Stolas should've stayed a villain.

So many other characters and arcs are sacrificed to try to salvage his slapdash reimagining as an awkward, repressed nerd.

As a writer, I know it can be difficult to admit an idea won't work, but those are the experiences that matter and that you can't improve without. I've had to part with some really promising ideas, simply because they didn't work for the project. But the effort Viv puts in to convince her viewers that nothing's wrong with Stolitz is baffling and, frankly, pathetic.

The Circus was what made me realize that she'd gone off the deep end. Western Energy holds the record for the fastest a piece of media has pissed me off, Stolas making excuses for his shitty actions felt too real, in the worst way possible.

Yeah, my response was rhetorical. Viv is unique in both the lengths and stupidity of her bad writing choices.

I can't find the post where you said it, but I remember a joke you made where you said Blitz's first word was "Stolas", but just you watch, we'll eventually get a flashback of kid!Blitz sleeping, cuddled up with an owl plushie. (Of course with Fizz nowhere to be seen)

On a side note, I have a theory about Stella, she only exists because it was discovered that Andre wouldn't be able to have kids, hence why Stella was conceived. This also fits with the common assumption that Andre is roughly 10/11 years older, as it would be around that time that any developmental issues with hormones/reproduction would start surfacing. Andrealphus would be their parents' heir, while Stella would be the kid that gets married off. As if her life wasn't already miserable enough, Stella may be living with the knowledge that she's just a way to make up for her brother's "inadequacy" :(

Ugh. Stop. So gross.

That’s really devastating actually…Stella can easily be a more tragic character than stolas could ever be

While I fully support the Golden Goose ship and am happy about how many people support it's functionality as well, one thing did catch my attention: no one really talks about why these two would like each other and why they are so perfect together. This aspect is simply taken for granted. It feels so right yet it's so hard to articulate WHY it works. So, maybe you'd use your writing talent to elaborate on that? :)

I've been pondering this for a while and I have indeed found it extremely hard to properly articulate.

If I had to narrow it down, though, I would say it's that they both have bombastic personalities, by nature and as a result of their lives up until this point.

Stella was only born to eventually become a wife and mother, and the man she was forced to marry fucked it all up for her. No one's ever valued Stella as just Stella, it's always been about some role.

Mammon, on the other hand, sees everything through the lens of value, meaning he already has a rather small dating pool. Not to mention the prospect of gold-diggers and centuries of being married to the job.

Their chemistry comes from the fact that Stella feels like someone whose presence Mam would enjoy and who he could trust to not just be after his wallet and actually be interested in him. While Mammon having fun with Stella and genuinely wanting to spend time with her would do wonders for her self-worth.

As I've said in an earlier post, they deserve better and they deserve it with each other. The very premises of their characters essentially entitle them to nuance that the writing denies them, and even then, they're both still awesome and rightfully popular in the fandom.

I would love to do a Golden Goose fic, but I've yet to make an ao3 account despite deciding to do so over 3 months ago. The earliest I could see myself finishing a hypothetical chapter 1 would be mid-to-late January, time is a bit tight for me at the moment.

I think the current pair will be "rivals" of past villains, a new demon for Moloch in SM6 and the spider, a pest, for Dexter in SM7.

This leaves the Frank and Roy episodes. I don't think either of them will be villains, though there is the fact that they'll likely be two "redemption" episodes. One of those episodes will probably have Mr. Clown as the villain, so the other villain might be a new cultist. The robed cultist in the monster teasers is either Clown hiding that he's still alive or a way of hiding a cultist who hadn't and likely still hasn't appeared in an episode.

Okay I'm gonna fixate on the antagonists reflectijg the 7 deadly sins forever now

Wait, hold the fucking phone, she used a fan song like with Addict, but this time, altered the lyrics in an effort to make the character seem more likeable.

Effectively admitting she doesn't even care enough to make an original song to show how the character "should" be interpreted and instead leeched off of a fan....

Wow, also, another point of comparison between her and Mammon, gotta keep track.

So I noticed something interesting....

Viv really trying her hardest to make Stolas innocent by changing the lyrics, even though in the episodes, Stolas keeps referring to Blitz as an impish little plaything.

And I'm supposed to feel sorry for this bitch? I don't!!

Having read your analysis on Bee, I found myself thinking up a scenerio wherein Mammon chews out the other Sins. Like, the others air out their grievances with Mam and how him personifying Greed rather than encouraging it is giving them a bad public image, what with them being what is basically celebrities in the context of the show. Mammon would sat through it, silently glaring at the others, and when they’re done, he just tears into them. Mammon then proceeds to pick apart the other Sins’ actions and behaviors, noting how they used to personify their respective vices before eventually becoming the watered down versions of themselves they are in the present, probably even questioning why they’d even bother doing so in the first place. The others would probably try to “high road” him, but Mam isn’t having any of it and admits that, yes he is an unapologetically shitty person, but at the very least he’s honest about it, unlike them and the countless skeletons they undoubtedly keep in their closets. (I always interpreted Mammon’s only reason for trying to (poorly) hide his greedy nature is so he doesn’t alienate his potential consumers) Eventually, Mammon decides he’s tired of the conversation, notes he’s got a hot date with a recent divorcee later, and teleports away, leaving the others to stand in awkward silence, none of them willing to admit that Mammon’s verbal eviseration was right on the mark.

Sorry for the wall of text, just sort of had a flash of inspiration from your analysis.

Mam chewing them out would be extremely cathartic to see. After giving it some thought, I think Ozzie and Bee might be the only Sins that go out of their way to "mitigate" their public images. It would work especially well if Mammon reminds them of how well they used to get along and how, unlike Ozzie, he hasn't gone out of his way to antagonize them despite their "growth".

To elaborate on the Bee and Ozzie thing, Lucifer is canonically a pretentious ass to everyone but his family, Bel is highly implied to be so apathetic and lazy that she uses Sloth's general population as her test subjects and is likely too apathetic to care about appearances. What we've seen of Wrath doesn't paint the best picture of Satan, and it's too early to say anything about Levi, or Envy in general.

Nice to see the Golden Goose agenda spreading. And don't sweat it, text walls written in streams of consciousness are always more than welcome here!