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Honestly the show lost me on Ozzie x fizz (as well as stolitz had everything from circus onwards not killed it it for me) when bee and Tex were revealed to be a thing, not only that, but happily and proudly in a relationship, which means Ozzie (And by extension Stolas) should have nothing to fear from Mammon or Stella respectively

Honestly Both Stolas and Ozzie should sod off, Blitz and Fizz deserve to be together, as do Mammon and Stella

I think the thing with Ozzie is that as the Sin of Lust, he's supposed to stay out of formal relationships so being with Fizz might contradict his duties. Whilst Stolas is mostly (and rightfully) in trouble for cheating on his wife (yes, it does count as cheating even though you were arranged, you gangly, feathery jizz-rag) and loaning a goetic artifact out to an imp. Bee's relationship with Tex doesn't negatively impact her performance as Sin of Gluttony and their isn't any m'guffin loaning going on, so they shouldn't have any problems.

While there is some questionable stuff involved in Fizzrozzie, most of it is not that serious and Fizz has two hands.

Stolas on the other hand, deserves to have his balls cut off and blended and then he should be forced to drink his own ball smoothie.

Glad you've joined the Golden Goose bandwagon, they're both awesome and are even more awesome together. Definitely have plans for more Mam x Stella stuff.

Me again, before you yell at me, read to the end of the sentence I had nothing against Stolitz when it was simply a CRACKSHIP.

Realistically, Stolitz could never have worked, but it was interesting to see how it could, the problems only started when the entire show began revolving around it, and it only got worse from there.

Now Golden Goose I can see genuine reasons why, especially with Octavia:

The main reason being Mammon genuinely treats her like a daughter, where as Stolas only really does when she's at risk of abandoning her lineage and going on her own path, thus incurring Paimons wrath.

(I'd also like to point out he's just flat out a coward, he's the 5th prince of the ars Goetia)

It was inevitable that some fans would ship Stolitz even from the pilot, what shocked me was Viv literally derailing her show to appease said fans.

Stolas is truly an awful father, I understand both he and Stella were forced to have a child, but that doesn't change the facts.

He's an even worse father than Paimon, at least Paimon tried, his attempts were misguided and shallow due to his worldview, but he genuinely tried and took pride in being a good dad, at least in his own eyes.

Stolas is only seen ignoring his daughter or making excuses and empty promises to change. We never even get concreate confirmation that Stolas wants to be a good dad, just that he's willing to do the bare minimum when Via snaps from how miserable her life is now. Said instances of snapping being her only appearances in the show thus far btw.

Mammon and Stella are both such fascinating characters that deserve better, especially with each other :)

More Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) stuff! (and some other HCs)

Much like the last volume, this batch of ideas will contain some HCs that are only included by virtue of association with a Golden Goose one.

Mammon doesn't have any chefs in his house staff, partly because he doesn't want the extra expense, but also because he actually enjoys cooking and is very skilled at it. This comes as a pleasant surprise to Stella and Octavia.

Contrasting the last one, Ozzie is actually a pretty sloppy cook and doesn't know many recipes, it's just that, unlike Fizz, the things he makes can at least be called food. The only reason they didn't have a chef was to lessen the risk of someone "discovering" their relationship. The first thing Asmodeus did after the mid-season special was put out a chef wanted ad.

Stella will often tell Mam stories about Via as a little kid and show him any accompanying photos she has. He's always enthralled by these and starts his own family photo album shortly after the first time Stella does this. Mammon sometimes spends minutes on end looking at the album, it's come closer than anything else to making him run late for a meeting.

Whenever they cross paths Mam chews out Stolas for treating his family like shit. Stolas tries the defend himself the first time but Mammon doesn't let him pull his scummy excuses. After that, Stolas would just fume in silence and shame whenever this happens.

Via eventually starts writing and composing her own songs and puts together an album. Mam and Stella are super proud but also not sure what to do when it comes to releasing it. After a long family discussion, Mam decides Via can perform it, but only at an exclusive royal gathering, while it's publicly released later under the stage name Great Eclipse, with a slight voice modifier.

Stella has a deep appreciation of art, especially performance art. Any performance that's any performance will have Greed's royal family in the audience. Stella also often listens to Via's songs in her free time.

Stella sometimes calls Mammon "Muffin" as a pet name. Her reasoning is that he's big, warm, soft and sweet (and she loves the way he tastes).

Lastly, for some angst and comfort: Early into the relationship Stella often felt a sense of not being good enough for or being a burden to Mam, as she didn't have much varied life experience. This would sometimes throw her into manic depressive states and bring out her more aggressive side. The first time this happened Mam freaked out and was terrified that he'd lose Stella. Luckily, Via was able to smooth out the situation and tell Mammon about her mom's problems and the signs that she's having a "mood". Ever since then, if Mam even thinks that Stella is having those self deprecating intrusive thoughts he makes sure to do something extra just for her. No matter how small it is, Stella always cherishes it and these issues almost completely disappear by the time they get married.

Honestly It'd be a power move if Blitzø incinerated the Grimoire Infront of Stolas', effectively depowering him and turning him into the powerless, scared man he paints himself as.

Sorry it took a while to respond, It's been a chaotic week for me.

While I think that would be cool, I can safely say Stolas would lose his cool an petrify Blitz on the spot, and I don't think anyone wants that. Well, other than possibly Stolas, himself.

I was honestly surprised 🦉's human disguise didn't incorporate this, especially since it was obviously based on the numerous cosplays of 🦉 that had been done by then, many of which used this exact makeup.

Wait, hold the fucking phone, she used a fan song like with Addict, but this time, altered the lyrics in an effort to make the character seem more likeable.

Effectively admitting she doesn't even care enough to make an original song to show how the character "should" be interpreted and instead leeched off of a fan....

Wow, also, another point of comparison between her and Mammon, gotta keep track.

So I noticed something interesting....

Viv really trying her hardest to make Stolas innocent by changing the lyrics, even though in the episodes, Stolas keeps referring to Blitz as an impish little plaything.

And I'm supposed to feel sorry for this bitch? I don't!!

At some point, we have to wonder if Viv knows that she's got an inherently unlikeable character on her hands

Why else would she go out of her way to make everyone else look bad?

Via, Stella, Mammon, Hell- even Blitz when he's not playing to Stolas' tune.

I started being apathetic towards Stolas when he was kidnapped in Western energy, given how hard they were pushing him, I knew Stolas wasn't going to be seriously hurt or killed.

If there's one criticism about the show Viv knows is valid, it's that Stolas should've stayed a villain.

So many other characters and arcs are sacrificed to try to salvage his slapdash reimagining as an awkward, repressed nerd.

As a writer, I know it can be difficult to admit an idea won't work, but those are the experiences that matter and that you can't improve without. I've had to part with some really promising ideas, simply because they didn't work for the project. But the effort Viv puts in to convince her viewers that nothing's wrong with Stolitz is baffling and, frankly, pathetic.

The Circus was what made me realize that she'd gone off the deep end. Western Energy holds the record for the fastest a piece of media has pissed me off, Stolas making excuses for his shitty actions felt too real, in the worst way possible.

That and Stella and Mammon getting together, Mam and Via's love and support giving Stella the confidence to take Stol-ass to task. He, of course, can't make any legitimate counterpoints and loses everything.

I can think of no better punishment for a scumbag who lords his power over others while painting himself as powerless, than for two of his victims to transcend him in status and leave him genuinely powerless to avoid the consequences of his own shitty actions.

For me Mammons mid season musical special is the peak of the show and the finale for me. After this point it’s all downhill. I like to think Ozzie gifts Blitzø a crystal offscreen and sets him free.

The end

“I’d be sorry if I’d hurt you but we both know I didn’t do that”

I think this is the worst one of all, mainly because, horrifyingly, he's being 100% honest. He's not trying to manipulate anyone, he genuinely believes that his actions did not hurt Stella emotionally in any way. Such is his inability to empathies that he can't register that Stella's upbringing would make her extremely dependent on approval from the Ars Goetia.

It actually makes a lot of sense if you look at how they're early childhoods would've differed. Stella was born (laid?) to eventually become a wife and mother, Stol-ass on the other hand, while still planned to become a father, was primarily to control his own legions and have a specific role in the nobility. Up until Paimon told him he's engaged, he likely had no idea he'd have any responsibilities in life other than commanding others, while his behavior definitely stems from nature (in more ways than one), his nurture actually makes his villainous actions that much more logical and compelling to watch... If only his villainy was taken seriously.

This is literally Stol-ass' enitre character:

This too.

“I’d be sorry if I’d hurt you but we both know I didn’t do that”

“Cheating implies there was a betrayal!”

“I’m glad you aren’t upset! I know you can handle any stupid joke a clown can make”

What do you mean "can be"? Stella IS a more tragic character than 🦉 and honestly, I feel comfortable saying that any other writer in the indie animation industry would recognize and acknowledge that.

I can't find the post where you said it, but I remember a joke you made where you said Blitz's first word was "Stolas", but just you watch, we'll eventually get a flashback of kid!Blitz sleeping, cuddled up with an owl plushie. (Of course with Fizz nowhere to be seen)

On a side note, I have a theory about Stella, she only exists because it was discovered that Andre wouldn't be able to have kids, hence why Stella was conceived. This also fits with the common assumption that Andre is roughly 10/11 years older, as it would be around that time that any developmental issues with hormones/reproduction would start surfacing. Andrealphus would be their parents' heir, while Stella would be the kid that gets married off. As if her life wasn't already miserable enough, Stella may be living with the knowledge that she's just a way to make up for her brother's "inadequacy" :(

Ugh. Stop. So gross.

That’s really devastating actually…Stella can easily be a more tragic character than stolas could ever be

Yeah, my response was rhetorical. Viv is unique in both the lengths and stupidity of her bad writing choices.

I can't find the post where you said it, but I remember a joke you made where you said Blitz's first word was "Stolas", but just you watch, we'll eventually get a flashback of kid!Blitz sleeping, cuddled up with an owl plushie. (Of course with Fizz nowhere to be seen)

On a side note, I have a theory about Stella, she only exists because it was discovered that Andre wouldn't be able to have kids, hence why Stella was conceived. This also fits with the common assumption that Andre is roughly 10/11 years older, as it would be around that time that any developmental issues with hormones/reproduction would start surfacing. Andrealphus would be their parents' heir, while Stella would be the kid that gets married off. As if her life wasn't already miserable enough, Stella may be living with the knowledge that she's just a way to make up for her brother's "inadequacy" :(

Ugh. Stop. So gross.

That’s really devastating actually…Stella can easily be a more tragic character than stolas could ever be

Now that I think about it, Hattie, the desperately lonely makeup artist from season 2, has some similarities to 🦉 except the show recognizes she's awful, all while still making her feel human and giving her some moments that left me in stiches.

You know, I was wondering why both Blitz and Fizz feel like they remind me of something but in different ways.

Then I remember Mr. Jelly from Psychoville, who is a crass, alcoholic, amputee birthday clown who is played by on of the show's creators.

Also, the doctor who helped Jelly get accustomed to his prosthetics took a liking to clowning and became Mr. Jolly, whom Jelly is in fierce competition with also being constantly mistaken for him.

Yes, this is a thinly veiled attempt at getting you to watch the show, but it was super underrated and had ARG elements that would've gotten it way more than just 2 seasons had it come out just a few years later. And if nothing else, it's better as a dramatic adult comedy than HB.

LMAO????

Headcanons for Stella's friends because these two deserve some love

While we all love Stella here, I have to say I'm slightly disappointed that not one person, that I'm aware of, has taken the chance to do something with her friends. Especially when exploring the more tragic parts of her character, as her besties would be an important part of her support network. So I decided to name them and give them some uniqueness. For anyone curios I also plan on using them in my "GoldenGoose-verse".

Let's start with Camio. Like her real life demonology namesake, she can manipulate fire and increase or diminish the clarity of others' memories. Her duties mostly revolve around the latter ability, often to enable or prevent certain people to take certain actions.

Personality wise, she's quite bubbly and easy-going. Despite this, she's fiercely defensive of those close to her and gets a kick out of pushing people's buttons from time to time.

She actually has a lot of interest in human history and the evolution of their cultures. This is partly because she occasionally shapes human history and partly because she's always had a fascination with relationships, both between individuals and between groups.

Her and Stella have known each other basically their whole lives and can, consequently, get away with a lot more when it comes to messing with each other.

Now, onto Furfur. She's biologically male and nonbinary, cool with any pronouns but with a preference for female pronouns. Possesses electric powers. He's the most physically powerful of the trio and has several forms, similar to Paimon*. While their primary duty is weather manipulation, they also have the important task of keeping track of angelic activity on Earth.

*To expand on this, I like to think that every goetic demon has several forms, with one as a "base". Paimon's base form is indeed more humanlike that the form we see in The Circus. The reason most of the Ars Goetia are birds in the show is because bird forms are "in" at the time of the series. Furfur's primary form is a fluffy cloud deer

Furfur often comes across as aloof or inconsiderate, but that's mostly because of his belief in pushing her friends to improve themselves, this is frequently compounded by their snarky streak.

Loves playing with their and Stella's hair, they've both tried to convince Camio to grow her out.

She also has a habit of taking Stella and Camio on daytrips to Earth, everything there is her treat, she just loves swindling humans. After Stella and Via, their the most pissed at Stolas for being a sex pest.

I have some more stuff for their overall dynamics and how Mammon gets involved when he and Stella get together, but I feel that should wait for another time.

I think it's because Paimon's heart is in the right place, he just doesn't know where to go from there.

Stolas only cares about Via as a get out of jail free card for the scrutiny and responsibilities that come with being a goetic prince. Either that or he's trying to delude himself into thinking he's a good father because he can't fathom the idea that he's in any way as bad as someone he dislikes.

When you stop and think about it, spending some time with her grandfather would probably do Octavia at least some good.

Unrelated, but I sent you some messages with some ideas from HRM and would love your feedback. (It's about a certain gangster)

What really bothers me about Octavia is, like, does she have no friends, no peers?? If she’s heir to the Goetia family, has she been doing any training or studying for her “role” if something did happen to Stolas?? Does she even know what that role is, because Stolas had clearly been preparing for his job since he was a very young child (even though we have yet to see him do anything related to his job outside of the Harvest Moon Festival)??

Like Stolas with Blitz, her only existence is to be completely obsessed with one another character and never shut up about them. She has never passed the Bechdel test. I love via but her one personality trait is ‘i love my dad’ that’s it. Viv won’t let her have anything else. And if she does give via something it’ll either be her hating other women (probably her mom) or her getting a obsessive crush on a boy.

Yeah, stolas has been preparing for whatever his job is, reading stars or some shit—his whole life, and it’s clear that even Paimon had to have stolas out of obligation. Maybe even as a ‘precaution’ as well considering he had many children, this usually means plenty are needed in case anything happens to them.

No, she knows nothing. Stolas does nothing but lie to her by omission every single day of her life. He makes Stella do the same. And still sees himself as the victim.

All of her training and studying is impossible if the grimoire is in someone else’s possession. Stolas doesn’t even tell her that his marriage was arranged, and why she was born. He can’t even tell her about the divorce, unless it’s all offscreen. For some reason he thinks it’s better to just keep it all a secret and lie to her face every single day, then turn around and say “I’ve endured so much for that girl!!” He waits until she has a horrific mental breakdown, cuts him out entirely, and has to come to the conclusions all alone. She asks if she was an obligation and he keeps fucking lying saying “no” instead of “I had to have a child, it’s true, I’m so sorry. but you were the best thing that ever came from this awful situation.” Just tell her the truth

Let Stella and Blitz lead us in making this pathetic fucking man suffer!

I'd actually really like to see a fic where they team up to take the prick down.

Also, are his feathers greying or not? Make up your damn mind, Vivienne.

This is an official print :

Opinions everyone? Theories?

Of-fucking-course you're pro-stella and anti-Stolas. Jesus fucking Christ... Hope you don't have a total meltdown when future positive episodes surrounding Stolas and Blitz get released.

I won't because I know that they're only happening because Vivienne wants them to and that realistically, Blitz would eventually snap out of the manipulation and get Stolas out of his life.

AUs and fics exist for many reasons, and one reason is that sometimes viewers who happen to be writers themselves can't tolerate the bad and in some instances potentially harmful writing in canon.

I know that the series won't give Stella a happy ending, that's exactly why I focus so much on her.

We know for a fact that Stolas was originally going to be a major villain in the series and was retconned into being "mIsgUIdEd" during the production of season 2. All this means Stella was more likely than not, originally framed as at least somewhat sympathetic by the narrative. The reason I point out the implied and/or inherent nuances to Stella's character is because they're an inevitable holdover from a version of the show that would have been far superior to the product we received.

The reason I'm pro-Stella is because she, as a character, deserved to be handled with more tact.

If you take that much of an issue with these stances, I suggest you just block, and move on with your day.

@pinkandpurple360 do you see this too? Or am I just being affected by the DRAVOnium leak at the HB merch factory?

On a serious note, this is fucking astonishing. I pity whichever artist was hired to design this piece of shit.

HM, thats not how I remember it...

Honestly, I agree with Viv on this front just for the first point. Striker being anti-capitalist is more than enough to make me hate him.

If you're surprised by this, you'd do well to remember I kin the king of greed himself, I'm the most diehard capitalist you'll ever meet.

Striker: anti-capitalist, anti-royalty, anti-billionaire, anti-oppression cowboy

Viv: let’s make him ridiculously evil and like a little rat man cause he needs to hurt more for his sins!

Stolas: a rich white royal pig who literally oppresses peasants and chokes out his butlers like they are toys.

Viv: aww poor baby baby

She’s pretty much a millionaire herself so this doesn’t surprise me…stolas literally abuses and exploits all four of IMP for his perverted bird needs or every personal problem he has, and if this isn’t enough to make you hate him nothing will. Idc if Millie and moxie are written to love stolas for no reason whatsoever it makes no sense.

Striker is barely evil, everything he says is true. People just can’t handle it.

Helluva Boss but it's actually Jontron moments

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Stella: *playing with dolls* "Hey, Alejandro, I was thinking about, you know, maybe taking a year off, going back to college, starting my career." "Nonsense, Monica! You're staying home and having my kids!"

Andrealphus: Stella, What are you playing?

Stella: Systemic oppression :)

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Wally: *selling a carpet that a guy was stitched into* Yes, okay, he had a bit of an accident, but, I say, it's one of a kind! I'll give you a good price!

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Mammon: *on the phone* Oh, okay. So I guess what you're telling me is that I should NOT make a game about the Titanic sinking!

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Mammon: Hey, you know what, I think you're right. On second thought, I don't think it's gonna work... But I got one for you better! Schindler's List: HD Remix!

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Moxxie: You can count me in.

Blitz: Okay, one.

Moxxie: What even?

Blitz: I counted you in :)

Moxxie: Go to fucking Heaven.

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Stolas:*picks up a packet of sunflower seeds* Via, what is this? Where did you learn to do this? have you been doing SEED?!?

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I want to apologies to every employee of both Spindlehorse and Shark Robot who had to keep their head down and make this garbage.

I genuinely don't want to imagine where Vivienne is going to take this bullshit next.

For fuck sake 💀