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1 year ago

What do you mean "can be"? Stella IS a more tragic character than šŸ¦‰ and honestly, I feel comfortable saying that any other writer in the indie animation industry would recognize and acknowledge that.

I can't find the post where you said it, but I remember a joke you made where you said Blitz's first word was "Stolas", but just you watch, we'll eventually get a flashback of kid!Blitz sleeping, cuddled up with an owl plushie. (Of course with Fizz nowhere to be seen)

On a side note, I have a theory about Stella, she only exists because it was discovered that Andre wouldn't be able to have kids, hence why Stella was conceived. This also fits with the common assumption that Andre is roughly 10/11 years older, as it would be around that time that any developmental issues with hormones/reproduction would start surfacing. Andrealphus would be their parents' heir, while Stella would be the kid that gets married off. As if her life wasn't already miserable enough, Stella may be living with the knowledge that she's just a way to make up for her brother's "inadequacy" :(

Ugh. Stop. So gross.

Thatā€™s really devastating actuallyā€¦Stella can easily be a more tragic character than stolas could ever be


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1 year ago

Yeah, my response was rhetorical. Viv is unique in both the lengths and stupidity of her bad writing choices.

I can't find the post where you said it, but I remember a joke you made where you said Blitz's first word was "Stolas", but just you watch, we'll eventually get a flashback of kid!Blitz sleeping, cuddled up with an owl plushie. (Of course with Fizz nowhere to be seen)

On a side note, I have a theory about Stella, she only exists because it was discovered that Andre wouldn't be able to have kids, hence why Stella was conceived. This also fits with the common assumption that Andre is roughly 10/11 years older, as it would be around that time that any developmental issues with hormones/reproduction would start surfacing. Andrealphus would be their parents' heir, while Stella would be the kid that gets married off. As if her life wasn't already miserable enough, Stella may be living with the knowledge that she's just a way to make up for her brother's "inadequacy" :(

Ugh. Stop. So gross.

Thatā€™s really devastating actuallyā€¦Stella can easily be a more tragic character than stolas could ever be


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1 year ago

I donā€™t know if it was you or someone else who compared Mammon and his behaviors to Calvin Fischoeder from Bobā€™s Burgers, but I think about that frequently and can imagine Mammon pulling a number of Mr. Fischoederā€™s antics. Since itā€™s the holiday season, I also feel that the Sins would get together and recreate the plot of the episode Last Gingerbread House on the Left. It could just be me, but I can honestly picture the Sins getting together to celebrate Sinsmas together, only for it to descend into complete chaos over something as trivial as making gingerbread houses.

I think I first compared them in an ask to @pinkandpurple360 , but funnily enough, Mam isn't the first character I've compared to Calvin.

I'm not sure if I just thought about this or actually posted it somewhere, but ever since he was introduced, I've seen Andre as the Calvin to Stella's Felix. There's a good number of Fischoeder brothers moments that work well with them, with just a little tweaking. Some examples:

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Andre (talking to a servant): My father left all this to me, the palace, all these artifacts. I still can't tell if it was a joke.

Stella: *cough* Should've been me.

Andre: Oh, THAT would've been fun!

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(during the gingerbread house scene)

Andre: Well, if everyone else is doing it. *pulls out blessed handgun*

Stella: *also pulls out a blessed gun*

Andre: Don't you pull a gun, Stella. We're having a moment here.

Stella: You think you're so great, Andy, just because mother laid you before me!

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1 year ago

Headcanons for Stella's friends because these two deserve some love

Headcanons For Stella's Friends Because These Two Deserve Some Love

While we all love Stella here, I have to say I'm slightly disappointed that not one person, that I'm aware of, has taken the chance to do something with her friends. Especially when exploring the more tragic parts of her character, as her besties would be an important part of her support network. So I decided to name them and give them some uniqueness. For anyone curios I also plan on using them in my "GoldenGoose-verse".

Headcanons For Stella's Friends Because These Two Deserve Some Love

Let's start with Camio. Like her real life demonology namesake, she can manipulate fire and increase or diminish the clarity of others' memories. Her duties mostly revolve around the latter ability, often to enable or prevent certain people to take certain actions.

Personality wise, she's quite bubbly and easy-going. Despite this, she's fiercely defensive of those close to her and gets a kick out of pushing people's buttons from time to time.

She actually has a lot of interest in human history and the evolution of their cultures. This is partly because she occasionally shapes human history and partly because she's always had a fascination with relationships, both between individuals and between groups.

Her and Stella have known each other basically their whole lives and can, consequently, get away with a lot more when it comes to messing with each other.

Headcanons For Stella's Friends Because These Two Deserve Some Love

Now, onto Furfur. She's biologically male and nonbinary, cool with any pronouns but with a preference for female pronouns. Possesses electric powers. He's the most physically powerful of the trio and has several forms, similar to Paimon*. While their primary duty is weather manipulation, they also have the important task of keeping track of angelic activity on Earth.

*To expand on this, I like to think that every goetic demon has several forms, with one as a "base". Paimon's base form is indeed more humanlike that the form we see in The Circus. The reason most of the Ars Goetia are birds in the show is because bird forms are "in" at the time of the series. Furfur's primary form is a fluffy cloud deer

Furfur often comes across as aloof or inconsiderate, but that's mostly because of his belief in pushing her friends to improve themselves, this is frequently compounded by their snarky streak.

Loves playing with their and Stella's hair, they've both tried to convince Camio to grow her out.

She also has a habit of taking Stella and Camio on daytrips to Earth, everything there is her treat, she just loves swindling humans. After Stella and Via, their the most pissed at Stolas for being a sex pest.

I have some more stuff for their overall dynamics and how Mammon gets involved when he and Stella get together, but I feel that should wait for another time.


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1 year ago

His constant lying and failure to educate Via is just another example of how Stolas is a worse father than Paimon. I think he lies because he thinks Via not knowing how toxic the Ars Goetia are will shield her from it's toxicity, when it will only make it a thousand times worse when it actually hits her.

Also, yeah, it's really sad to see that Via has essential zero social life, especially with how many parties Stella throws. You'd think that at least some other noble would've taken their kid to meet Via when they were young.

Side note, if Stolas and Stella were engaged at 10, why has the fact that Via should've already been engaged for the better part of a decade not been addressed at all? Will we see her get engaged against her will in season 3 and have this plot point used to make her like Stolas again and turn on her mother? Probably.

What really bothers me about Octavia is, like, does she have no friends, no peers?? If sheā€™s heir to the Goetia family, has she been doing any training or studying for her ā€œroleā€ if something did happen to Stolas?? Does she even know what that role is, because Stolas had clearly been preparing for his job since he was a very young child (even though we have yet to see him do anything related to his job outside of the Harvest Moon Festival)??

Like Stolas with Blitz, her only existence is to be completely obsessed with one another character and never shut up about them. She has never passed the Bechdel test. I love via but her one personality trait is ā€˜i love my dadā€™ thatā€™s it. Viv wonā€™t let her have anything else. And if she does give via something itā€™ll either be her hating other women (probably her mom) or her getting a obsessive crush on a boy.

Yeah, stolas has been preparing for whatever his job is, reading stars or some shitā€”his whole life, and itā€™s clear that even Paimon had to have stolas out of obligation. Maybe even as a ā€˜precautionā€™ as well considering he had many children, this usually means plenty are needed in case anything happens to them.

No, she knows nothing. Stolas does nothing but lie to her by omission every single day of her life. He makes Stella do the same. And still sees himself as the victim.

All of her training and studying is impossible if the grimoire is in someone elseā€™s possession. Stolas doesnā€™t even tell her that his marriage was arranged, and why she was born. He canā€™t even tell her about the divorce, unless itā€™s all offscreen. For some reason he thinks itā€™s better to just keep it all a secret and lie to her face every single day, then turn around and say ā€œIā€™ve endured so much for that girl!!ā€ He waits until she has a horrific mental breakdown, cuts him out entirely, and has to come to the conclusions all alone. She asks if she was an obligation and he keeps fucking lying saying ā€œnoā€ instead of ā€œI had to have a child, itā€™s true, Iā€™m so sorry. but you were the best thing that ever came from this awful situation.ā€ Just tell her the truth


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1 year ago

Trying to make Akinator guess Stella's friends

attempt 1:

Trying To Make Akinator Guess Stella's Friends

A valiant effort.

attempt 2:

Trying To Make Akinator Guess Stella's Friends

Again, not quite.

attempt 3:

Trying To Make Akinator Guess Stella's Friends

Sudden detour, also, can anyone tell me where this art is from?

Apparently, he gave up.

Trying To Make Akinator Guess Stella's Friends
Trying To Make Akinator Guess Stella's Friends

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1 year ago

Let Stella and Blitz lead us in making this pathetic fucking man suffer!

I'd actually really like to see a fic where they team up to take the prick down.

Also, are his feathers greying or not? Make up your damn mind, Vivienne.

This is an official print :

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Opinions everyone? Theories?


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1 year ago

Of-fucking-course you're pro-stella and anti-Stolas. Jesus fucking Christ... Hope you don't have a total meltdown when future positive episodes surrounding Stolas and Blitz get released.

I won't because I know that they're only happening because Vivienne wants them to and that realistically, Blitz would eventually snap out of the manipulation and get Stolas out of his life.

AUs and fics exist for many reasons, and one reason is that sometimes viewers who happen to be writers themselves can't tolerate the bad and in some instances potentially harmful writing in canon.

I know that the series won't give Stella a happy ending, that's exactly why I focus so much on her.

We know for a fact that Stolas was originally going to be a major villain in the series and was retconned into being "mIsgUIdEd" during the production of season 2. All this means Stella was more likely than not, originally framed as at least somewhat sympathetic by the narrative. The reason I point out the implied and/or inherent nuances to Stella's character is because they're an inevitable holdover from a version of the show that would have been far superior to the product we received.

The reason I'm pro-Stella is because she, as a character, deserved to be handled with more tact.

If you take that much of an issue with these stances, I suggest you just block, and move on with your day.


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1 year ago
If You Want A Loving Villain Couple Just Do What Everyone Else Is Doing, Ship Golden Goose.

If you want a loving villain couple just do what everyone else is doing, ship Golden Goose.

What we want: Lucifer and Lilith being completely in love with each other and have a Gomez and Morticia dynamic and his wife is the only one that he doesn't care is taller than him it likely turns him on. All hail Mommy Dommie Lilith!

What we're likely to get: They're divorce and Lilith is Stella 2.0 with Luci being another 'uwu sad man' that Viv likes so much.


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1 year ago

This.... This is true art that understands the character better than the creator. Well done.

Eyes Of Hell Are On Her, Watching Her Every Move, Pressuring Her, Forcing Her To Play A Role She Never

Eyes of hell are on her, watching her every move, pressuring her, forcing her to play a role she never wanted to play.


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1 year ago

Helluva Boss but it's actually Jontron moments

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Stella: *playing with dolls* "Hey, Alejandro, I was thinking about, you know, maybe taking a year off, going back to college, starting my career." "Nonsense, Monica! You're staying home and having my kids!"

Andrealphus: Stella, What are you playing?

Stella: Systemic oppression :)

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Wally: *selling a carpet that a guy was stitched into* Yes, okay, he had a bit of an accident, but, I say, it's one of a kind! I'll give you a good price!

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Mammon: *on the phone* Oh, okay. So I guess what you're telling me is that I should NOT make a game about the Titanic sinking!

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Mammon: Hey, you know what, I think you're right. On second thought, I don't think it's gonna work... But I got one for you better! Schindler's List: HD Remix!

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Moxxie: You can count me in.

Blitz: Okay, one.

Moxxie: What even?

Blitz: I counted you in :)

Moxxie: Go to fucking Heaven.

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Stolas:*picks up a packet of sunflower seeds* Via, what is this? Where did you learn to do this? have you been doing SEED?!?

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1 year ago

so, I heard this crazy theory that I need to share.

So, according to the Hazbin trading cards, there are hints that Lilith might be a villain. However, what if the character that currently claiming to be Lilith wasnā€™t Lilith. She is Eve.

In the Bible, Eve is the first woman ever created. What if, in this universe, Eve was a character who hated heaven because she received the blame for the creation of sin. She wanted to separate Lucifer and Lilith to get with Lucifer. So, some how?

Eve stole Lilithā€™s identity. Lilith isnā€™t able to stop her. I donā€™t know why.

So, Lilith decides to stay in the shadows scheming. She hides in a identity. She pretends to be an Overlord, especially Rosie.

So, Rosie is Lilith and Alastor knows this.

I donā€™t know what to think about this insane theory. However, too many people are talking about it could happen. I needed to share it. What do you think?

The thing is in the actual oldest scriptures, the word "Lilith" only appeas once and is believed to be in reference to an owl spirit that had nothing to do with Eden.

Because of this, most stories just make Even and Lilith one and the same, anyway. So there's no real precedent for what being the "real" Lilith would even really mean.

Personally, I always thought Hellaverse's Lilith was also it's Eve. Until a mutual messaged me about it, I never even considered that that information might be a secret in-universe

I think the Rosie thing (which came from leaked messages between Viv and someone else) was misinterpreted. I think it meant that Rosie will have the role of the supportive mother figure that Lilith was going to have back in the pilot days, before she was rewritten as another Stella.


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1 year ago

I request more golden goose, thank you kindly

I've actually been meaning to get some more Golden Goose stuff out, but was fighting myself over whether to post something on it's own or officially start my GoldenGooseVerse.

So here's some stuff I can share without spoiling anything:

Stella frequently tries new hobbies and takes a particular liking to sculpting. Her first attempts were supposed to be small vases that she wanted to gift to people close to her. Even though they turned out somewhat lopsided, Mammon, Via, Andre, Camio and Furfur all kept them and use them as pen holders.

Via and Mammon's main form of bonding is playing guitar together. They workshop songs, talk about (and often bash) new songs they've heard recently, and just chat about their day, their interests and life in general. When they first started doing this, Octavia would sometimes have moments of "Wait, is this real life, right now?", because she wasn't used to having this form of positive experience with a paternal figure.

Before Mam and Stella officially started their relationship, Stella would often talk to her friends about her recent bonding with Mammon. Whilst Furfur was completely on board, Camio was slightly apprehensive about the whole situation, she wanted to be sure Stella's past traumas weren't making her see Mam through rose-tinted glasses. Because of this, she once asked Stella to invite Mammon to one of the friend group's meetings, Mam agreed and shortly afterwards befriended Camio and Furfur, as well.

Mammon takes more of an interest in improving Greed's Goetic social circles for 2 main reasons: 1) He wants to create an environment that would make it easier for Octavia to socialize with her peers and 2) He wants to give Stella some autonomy as a ruler and involves her in these reforms to ease her into it before officially making her the ultimate authority on any Goetic matter in the Greed ring, as well as it's Goetic representative.

There more on the way, it'll be more complex and take some time, but I promise it'll be good.


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1 year ago

in your golden goose au, what does Stella think of the Morningstars?

I've yet to get around to seeing Hazbin in any real capacity, so I'm still not decided. But since they'll probably make Lilith a Stella clone, I might make them friends or at least include a scene where Stella and Lilith discuss their similar experiences.

I'm also trying to figure out what the other Sins would think of Mammon's relationship with Stella. Expect something on that in the relatively near future.


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11 months ago

Yo mammon is the best and I want him to get his revenge same with stella. Let's see some hell. šŸ”„

Fuck yeah!!

Mam is easily my favorite Hellaverse character and one of my favorite characters in anything, in general. And the amazing part is most of it is just from the concept of Greed being manifested in a similar way to the other Sins.

Stella was outright created to be a sympathetic character, and the writing's attempts to erase this will never sit well with me.

But my absolute favorite thing about them is how genuinely perfect they are as a couple. I'm currently engaged in writing in a different fandom, but I do plan to make some Golden Goose waves in the community soon.


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11 months ago

More headcanons for Camio and Furfur (Stella's friends)

More Headcanons For Camio And Furfur (Stella's Friends)
More Headcanons For Camio And Furfur (Stella's Friends)

Been a while since I talked about these two, but it's time to get back into it!

For anyone missing the context, you can find it here

Due to her fascination with humans, Camio goes out of her way to exclusively hire sinners as her house staff and bodyguards. It's more costly than hellborns, but she finds it personally enriching and worthwhile.

Furfur can teleport/manifest as a lightning bolt from any cloud they choose.

After Mammon and Stella's wedding, the group's trips to the human world become more like family vacations, with Mam and Via tagging along.

Between Stella, Furfur and Camio, Camio is the oldest.

With the hubbub about the hotel, Furfur is ordered to expand and extend his surveillance of Heaven's direct activities on Earth.

While we're at it, she gets the unenviable task of sorting out the C.H.E.R.U.B situation.

And that's it for now!

It'll be a little while before we get back to the GoldenGooseVerse proper, so I hope these rations satisfy you in the mean time.


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10 months ago

A Golden Goose idea I had:

When courting Stella, Mammon made it a point not to take her to Ozzieā€™s. This isnā€™t out of spite for Asmodeus either, rather, Mammon naturally recognizes the club for what it is: a place for people to have meaningless hook ups in the name of lust and lust alone. Since Mammon well and truly loves Stella, he wants to make sure she knows that in every little thing he does, and he is certain taking her to Ozzieā€™s, no matter how high end and classy it may be, would send the wrong message.

Unrelated to the above, but I like the idea of Mammon and Stella, pretty far into their relationship, having a date at some sort of fast food dive, for little reason other then the dichotomy of Mammon being himself and having a ball there, while Stella is sitting across from him eating fast food with all the grace and poise her upbringing has instilled within her (and maybe enjoying the date more than she lets on).

Just some random thoughts I thought Iā€™d share.

Guy, I swear, if I ever meet you in person, we're getting pizza, my treat. I LOVE THESE!

Mam going the extra mile to show Stella just how much she means to him in really subtly sappy ways actually works really well with my idea of Mammon actually being smarter and more attentive than people (in and out of universe) give him credit for.

Also, YES! I ADORE hcs about Stella broadening her comfort zone and exploring interests she couldn't/wouldn't before due to Goetic culture.

Great showing all around


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10 months ago

Iā€™ve been thinking about your response to my previous ask and how youā€™ve said in the past Stella being with Mammon would encourage her to get out of her comfort zone. So, Iā€™ve been mulling over an angsty Golden Goose scenario:

Basically, after having a number of dates, Mammon realizes heā€™s been taking the lead and deciding what they do on all of them, so he asks Stella what she wants to do or if there is any hobby she wants to indulgeā€¦ and she doesnā€™t have an answer. She wracks her brain andā€¦ nothing. Itā€™s only now that she realizes that she doesnā€™t have any interests or hobbies of her own, and outside of Camio and Furfur (hope itā€™s okay Iā€™m drawing inspiration from your own headcanon) she doesnā€™t have much in the way of true friends. Between her strict upbringing, arranged marriage, dealing with Stolasā€™ crap, trying her best to parent Octavia, and doing everything in her power to get out of her marriage + get back at Stolas while sheā€™s at it, she hasnā€™t really been able to explore any interests outside of passing flights of fancy. This realization leaves Stella despondent and inconsolable, with it taking a lot of effort on the part of Octavia, Mammon, Camio, and Furfur to try and get her out of the resulting funk. She ultimately comes out of it for the better and starts exploring different ventures that catches her eye, but that realization still sometimes eats away at the back of her mind.

Im not used to writing angst, so hereā€™s a more comedic idea Iā€™ve had since I started shipping Golden Goose:

The second Andrealphus realizes his sister is dating possibly the most wealthy demon in the entire 7 Rings, he immediately gets to work trying to get in Mammonā€™s good graces and sucks up to him on every occasion. Mammon is aware of Andyā€™sā€¦ questionable behavior and the only reason he hasnā€™t turned the icy peacock into a Slurpee is because of reasons similar to why he hasnā€™t personally dealt with Stolas. Instead, Mam has settled on stringing Andrealphus along and finding subtle ways to humiliate him in a similar manner to how Kevin treated the bellhop in Home Alone 2.

Apologies if this is a garbled mess, but Iā€™ve been on a Golden Goose kick and felt like sharing.

I could actually empathies with Stella's issue in the first idea, the feeling of directionlessness has crept up on me a few times, that sense of dread as your own values start devaluing every moment. There's a lot of potential to explore with this concept, I've even toyed with some similar ideas in the past.

Also, don't sweat it, I would KILL to have my ideas for Camio and Furfur become common fanon.

I love the idea of Andre trying to parasitize off of Stella's relationship with Mammon. It also works well for Mam's characterization, as I can confidently say that whenever they met, he would casually insult Andre while delivering it like a joke in his typical, bantering way of talking, so Andre doesn't even realize he's being insulted. Not that he'd let if show if he did realize, he to stay in Mam's 'good' graces.


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10 months ago

ŠHHHHHHHH! OP I love this!!!

The suit, the hat pattern, the little baubles on Mam's shoes, Fizz's face, THE WAY VIA IS SMILLING WITH HER OWN FLOWERS! Love the way Stella is drawn here too.

I love them so much (except for Fizz, no offence, but I just don't like him)

Had To Draw This Ship At Some Point ;)

Had to draw this ship at some point ;)


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10 months ago

Iā€™ve been compiling a bunch of random headcanons & theories regarding the Sins. Just a heads up, itā€™s going to be kind of a long list:

Like Lucifer and his family, the Sins have surnames. The only exception is Mammon, whose legal name is ā€˜Mammon TMā€™, for branding purposes.

I donā€™t know if itā€™s been confirmed if the Sins are Hellborn or not, but I like to think that the Hellaverse sort of draws from Paradise Lost in that they were originally angels loyal to Lucifer before getting the boot after the stunt Luci and Lilith pulled in Eden. This would effectively make them the first sinner demons, which could be used to explain why sinners rank so high on Hellā€™s hierarchy.

Working off of the above, I thought it would be funny if Leviathan was originally a cherub prior to falling, either looking like some form of small fish or maybe even a prawn. Over the course of thousands of years living in Hell, he slowly grew into the titan of the deep he is in the present.

Speaking of Levi, Iā€™ve mulled over what we discussed the other day, and I can picture him being the designated ā€œcreepy oneā€ of the group. After all, still waters often have terrible and dangerous things lurking just below the surface. Given there is a lot of talk of Levi being a surfer dude, I feel like the thin veneer of a beach bum barely conceals something much darker. Everything he says and does just has this edge to it, which is just reinforced given heā€™s a massive sea serpent. Is his personality and use of surfer slang an act? Is it genuine? No one knows.

I like to think all of the Sins can naturally fly, regardless of whether or not they have wings. The only reason they (barring Luci and Bee) donā€™t regularly use this particular ability is a matter of practicality. Continuing this thought, I like the idea of them leaving trails when they fly, sort of like the Night Entities from Orion and the Dark. Like, Mammon leaves a trail of currency symbols, Beeā€™s trail resembles honey being applied by a bony wand, Satan leaves a trail of smoke and volcanic ash, etc.

Mammon is ridiculously agile, acrobatic, and can scale walls like Spider-Man. Most people donā€™t realize this given how he prefers to just teleport everywhere to get around.

While Wrathā€™s culture (when not geared towards agriculture) is centered around conflict, specifically martial conflict, I can easily picture Satan as trying to create conflict of all kinds. I mean, just imagine this giant, draconic demon cowboy/gym rat hopping on an internet forum or comment section just to start a flame war and watch the chaos unfold. This even extends to the other Sins, as heā€™ll just say or do minor shit to rile the others up.

I was thinking about your interpretation of how Belphagor and Baphomet could pan out and how Bel is fixated on efficiency. I feel that an outsider looking in would wonder why a laidback (and morally questionable) woman of science like Bel would go for a peppy and inviting guy like Baph, the answer being heā€™s efficient. Very efficient. The guy runs the ring and likely does far more behind the scenes, all the while finding time to keep a stable relationship with his wife, maintaining the Sloth ringā€™s facade of being a placid vacay spot, and being something of a large scale host and possible tour guide to people that come to Sloth to relax and likely roping them into/abducting some of them for his wifeā€™s sketchy practices. Bel finds this workaholic level of efficiency very attractive.

When Charlie was little and the Sins took turns babysitting her, Satan and Belphagor were the only ones to actually dislike the duty. Satan didnā€™t want a kid around cramping his style & cutting into his workout regimen and Bel felt taking care of a child wouldnā€™t be conductive to her research & refused to let Baph watch her because it would cut into his carefully planned work schedule. This isnā€™t to say they donā€™t love their niece, they just arenā€™t the kind of people that want to deal with kids.

Iā€™ve seen a lot of people joke about whatā€™s under Mammonā€™s jester cap and my theory is that he basically has a bunch of spider legs growing out of his head like this:

Ive Been Compiling A Bunch Of Random Headcanons & Theories Regarding The Sins. Just A Heads Up, Its Going

Mammonā€™s ā€œhead legsā€ are probably one of the few things heā€™s actually self conscious about.

Given itā€™s been confirmed Beeā€™s stomach basically digests everything she eats almost immediately, I like to think that her weight and build actually fluctuates based on how much collective ambient gluttony is in a given area. In places/times where the majority of people feel gluttonous, she starts gaining weight, while gluttony being at its lowest causes her to start wasting away.

I remember you once suggested Andrealphus was incapable of having kids, hence Stella was born to keep the bloodline going and possibly try and climb the social ladder. It actually gave me the idea that Mammon is incapable of having kids of his own, hence his fixation on becoming a step-dad. With this in mind, I can picture his clown pageant being his way, through the lens of greed, of getting his own step-child, with the added bonus of getting a face for his brand. Itā€™s debatable whether or not the thought of just adopting a kid ever crossed his mind.

The above point could also cause some Golden Goose angst.

I get the show kinda debunked the fanon idea of Lucifer playing the accordion, but Iā€™m just going to ignore that in favor of a long-standing headcanon Iā€™ve had. In essence, I thought it would be funny if Luci was a fan of polka to the point he actually made the other Sins learn how to play instruments traditionally used to play polka so they could all perform together. The others all hated it, but after Lilith left and they tried to get Luci out of his funk, they repeatedly offered to perform with him to no avail.

Continuing the music ideas, I can picture Bel being a fan of EDM.

As a testament to the Sins sheer level of power, if sufficiently motivated to do so they can actually reshape and restructure their respective domains. This naturally causes near incalculable damage and upheaval, while taking a lot out of them.

At some point early into Hellā€™s existence, Lucifer just kindaā€¦ snapped. He became a cruel tyrant that lined up more closely to traditional depictions of the devil, while Lilith and the Sins were at their all time worst as people. After several thousands of years of unspeakable evil, Lucifer and the others eventually grew out of their ā€œtyrant phaseā€, eventually becoming who they are in canon. The event that got Lucifer, Lilith and the Sins to change (to varying degrees) for the better? Charlieā€™s birth.

I get that this is a lot and that your schedule has been thrown out of wack, but inspiration hit me like a speeding truck. Hope you like some of these.

Oh, I have a TON of thoughts about these! So, I'll spread out me responses in a 1 to 1 pattern

I always liked the idea of the Sins having full names, and the TM is perfect to Mammon

While I don't know if we'll ever get confirmation one way or the other, the Sins will, to me, always be found siblings who were once Heavens greatest circus before they were outcast for standing by their leader.

My design idea for Levi range from having transparent skin, to being partial rotted (like those videos of bottom feeders picking apart whale bodies). I'll be talking more about Levi's appearance in it's own post

At this point I'm starting to think the surfer thing is something the fandom gaslight itself with, because I can't find anyone genuinely claiming any such content was leaked. Personally, I see Levi as more of a sleazy editor/publisher, running the non-Pride news channels and most of Hell's print media. So basically, J. Jonnah, but he's a giant glowing eel.

I also think all the Sins have magical flight, but I also think that, like how Ozzie can manifest as a flame, Mam can manifest and move around as a lightning bolt.

YES! I love acrobatic Mam headcanons! My idea of him having needle like feet and his curly shoes being padded actually works really well with that. He can be very graceful when he wants to be.

Yeah, I think Satan would likely have a formalized way of doing this too, like, at some point personally declaring one side of a flame war the winners.

Yep, that's Bel and Baph in a nutshell. A lot of the mannerisms I envision for Baphomet come from the gag of Captain Fun and Activity Boy from the Jack Frost 2. (Look it up)

Again, I totally agree, I actually have a lot to say about Charlie and Bel's relationship, but that's for another time.

I like to think Mam has hair made of static electricity, it tingles to the touch, much like his webs.

Bee's consumption of emotions being what actually affects her body is a new idea to me, but one I love. Also kind of gives the impression she eats actual food mostly for the sensation of eating, which works pretty well.

My idea is that Mam can have kids, but always wanted it to be with someone he was absolutely sure about. However, Stella's trauma with essentially being forced to have Via gives him pause, it's a touchy subject for both of them.

Hah, nice. Also, I just leave this here, before rock existed, Mam was mostly into and performed opera.

Yeah, EDM is a good fit for Bel.

Oh, that's a new one for me. It's great! Might actually have a somewhat similar idea in the works....

This one I don't really jive with. I don't really like the idea of Charlie sparking all the Sins' character growth, but I do think they've all gone through a lot of "phases".


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