I Think I Figured Out Why I Like Fizzarozzie More Than You Do, I Actually Do See All Relationships As

I think I figured out why I like Fizzarozzie more than you do, I actually do see all relationships as transactions, at least to an extent.

It's a big part of the reason I kin Mammon, granted I also consider the emotional aspect as part of the "transaction", extracting value from a fun or otherwise valuable experience with someone else (something I incorporate into my Mammon writing), but I would say Blitz and Ozzie are evenly matched in that regard, at least in Fizz's eyes as of the mid-season finale (I know you'll disagree with this, but this is my final stance on the matter).

Realistically speaking, I probably wouldn't care about Blitz if I was in Fizz's position and had Ozzie. I'm not saying my opinion is the be all end all of this discussion, but I just thought it would be useful to get this perspective out there.

That twitter post is so dumb. Saying Blitzo doesn't have anything to offer to the table that Oz doesn't? What about a personality? That's a start. He isn't perfect so Fizz would actually have some ability to be his own person and character since Blitzo isn't capable of being everything always all the time. It's a better relationship because it's more grounded as a whole and also just a better story.

“You always cared what I thought” — blitzø s2e6

“I cant help feel he values your take on things” — Asmodeus s2e7

“Well yeah I was usually the one with the stronger opinions” — blitzø s2e7

“He kept you safe when I wasn’t able to, and I trust that” — Asmodeus, s2e7

I hate that thread if it’s the one I’m thinking of. Maybe if you let characters interact for more than one episode a dynamic could be established? Notice how it’s also implying that blitz and Asmodeus are remarkably similar in their protective caring dynamic with him ? Seems like he was the blueprint

I think this show has just hardwired everyone into seeing all relationships as a transaction. Oz has a big bank account and a nice house what does blitz have? Checkmate.

Blitz offers him, and always has offered him loyalty, protection, reassurance and a feeling of safety. He lets Fizz yell and show when he’s annoyed without feeling like he has to cushion his words, he doesn’t have to say “pweeease?” And pretend to be all submissive and cute to get what he wants. People pleasers need someone who isn’t biassed by a need to benefit off of them, to give it to them straight. Ozzie doesn’t offer him that because fizz only thinks Ozzie is with him because of who he is at his best, meaning he’s been putting up a front with Asmodeus, and he feels like it’s thanks to Mammon that he got to be with him. He says he barely feels worthy.

Another thing I had to laugh at is. Fizz doesn’t like he blitz talks too much. And it shows fizz’s annoyed expression. Um. You may as well be talking about “if you keep talking about pirates I will punch you” they have a back and forth. Fizz keeps him in check. He also doesn’t like how Oz pampers him too much and makes decisions without telling him. In both episode six and seven of season two of you pay attention, Fizzarolli and Asmodeus are actually arguing almost the entire time. Because two people can disagree and that isn’t grounds for ending things.

People who knew you and loved you before you were famous are irreplaceable. It’s more than ‘nostalgia’ and ‘some solidarity in that they’re both imps or whatever’ it’s community, history, belonging, and understanding. And that last one means the most to fizz.

And you’re right it is also just a better story

While I think that Mammon was better written than Stella, it would be like to see him kinda show some charisma with his fans.

Here is an idea.

Maybe the episode could show Mammon being loved by everyone in hell because he has knows how to get people to love him. What if when Fizz insults Mammon, Mammon’s fans actually turn on Fizz. When Fizz leaves with Asmodeus, people are actually booing him off the stage. Fizz and Asmodeus become a laughing stock and hated by everyone. It would not matter to Fizz and Asmodeus because they would have each other. However, there would still be that consequence to their actions. Asmodeus would have to deal with the bad publicity, but he got Fizz to leave Mammon. So, Asmodeus would still be happy. It would be bittersweet. What do you think?

You just solved my biggest issue with the episode! The ending always felt slightly off to me and this absolutely blows it out of the water!

I love that Mam wouldn't need to "make" people like him, despite being amoral, he's a genuinely endearing and charismatic guy. All he really needs to do is avoid the topic of business and he's free to be himself while the fans keep pouring in. (As they should, he deserves it)

It' also the perfect comeuppance for Ozzie and Fizz's hypocrisy in past episodes, it's the perfect way for Mammon to screw them over without having to do anything. You might see it as bittersweet, but as a Mammon kinnie, I consider this sweet as icing!

One a side note, being hated actually would matter to Fizz, but not directly. If enough people turned on him, Ozzie would probably become even more smothering than ever in fear of someone trying to harm Fizz, which would make Fizz even more uncomfortable with Ozzie essentially controlling his life. This would basically mean their personalities would effectively make them punish each other!

Maybe have a moment where Oliver runs out of the theatre in shock and betrayal.

This might just get incorporated into my GoldenGoose-verse

@pinkandpurple360 , you gotta get a look at this!

so, I heard this crazy theory that I need to share.

So, according to the Hazbin trading cards, there are hints that Lilith might be a villain. However, what if the character that currently claiming to be Lilith wasn’t Lilith. She is Eve.

In the Bible, Eve is the first woman ever created. What if, in this universe, Eve was a character who hated heaven because she received the blame for the creation of sin. She wanted to separate Lucifer and Lilith to get with Lucifer. So, some how?

Eve stole Lilith’s identity. Lilith isn’t able to stop her. I don’t know why.

So, Lilith decides to stay in the shadows scheming. She hides in a identity. She pretends to be an Overlord, especially Rosie.

So, Rosie is Lilith and Alastor knows this.

I don’t know what to think about this insane theory. However, too many people are talking about it could happen. I needed to share it. What do you think?

The thing is in the actual oldest scriptures, the word "Lilith" only appeas once and is believed to be in reference to an owl spirit that had nothing to do with Eden.

Because of this, most stories just make Even and Lilith one and the same, anyway. So there's no real precedent for what being the "real" Lilith would even really mean.

Personally, I always thought Hellaverse's Lilith was also it's Eve. Until a mutual messaged me about it, I never even considered that that information might be a secret in-universe

I think the Rosie thing (which came from leaked messages between Viv and someone else) was misinterpreted. I think it meant that Rosie will have the role of the supportive mother figure that Lilith was going to have back in the pilot days, before she was rewritten as another Stella.

The idea I have so far explores Striker's general values, why they lead to him disliking royals and ultimately realizing that not all royals are as bad as he thinks and that there's nuance to everyone.

Petition to do a Helluva Boss fan re-write where we give Striker and Stella actual personalities, address Blitzø's trauma in a way that makes sense, and actually have IMP be central to the plot

There's more, obviously, but I hope you get what I mean 🤙🏽💛

-🌱

Of course I do. And I think it would fix so much if IMP (just Millie and Blitzø) secretly kill other imps hellhounds and hellborn but keep it on the very downlow. That’s where the money really comes from. By day the four have some fun and Millie and blitz get to be carefree and happy. But by night is the real and unspeakable dark shit only the two of them are hardened enough to be capable of. They shield moxxie and Loona from this.

Have Blitzs trauma be similar but have it’s first introduction not be a x3 speed flashback where no actual dialogue is heard…and let it be the season 2 premiere. His story has been planned from the very start and stolas pissbaby story was based on fanart from like a year prior

Adding some stuff from chronicles:

One murderer has an entire swan as part of their hat, their big freakout sees the swan springing to life and flapping it's wings hard enough to lift the killer off the ground and lays eggs which instantly hatch.

Almost every case with jurors has no less than 2 jurors either be in close proximity to the crime, or have a connection to someone involved. Characters from past and future cases are also frequently jurors

The main prosecutor frequently throws glass objects containing alcohol in anger, often towards the gallery or into lit torches. Sometimes he slams his leg on his bench, instead.

A woman is stabbed in the back by a knife which flew out of a window after another woman threw it at her husband. Said woman was posing as her husband's maid to make him look more prestigious to guests. Said woman also ends up being a juror in the trail of the man falsely accused of the stabbing.

During the above mentioned trial, the prosecutor asserts that the defendant, who is constantly described as meek and jittery, vaulted a six foot long ditch while carrying 3 books. He ends up being right.

There's a pudgy old pawnbroker who threatens to shoot himself as "penance" for even the slightest mistake on his end. This is played for laughs until the man is killed and then the fact his gun only had one bullet in it becomes a plot point.

At one point, government secrets are stolen and smuggled in Morse code imbedded on music box discs.

One villain confesses to murder and attempted murder after the main character makes it impossible for him to obtain a hidden treasure. The main character had no conclusive proof that the man was guilty of either crime.

The main character has to defend a scientist who constantly sabotages his own case, because he would rather be sentenced to death than be forced to face the truth that his experiment was a failure.

Most of the issues the main cast face in exposing a massive conspiracy in the final case are a result of the actions of a bumbling pair of rich gingers who decided to scam a bunch of people for shits and giggles.

One of those gingers has a habit of grabbing and dragging people with a gem-encrusted dog leash.

A 10 year old girl and a himbo chemist were able to make functioning earbuds and a fucking hologram in 1900.

Everyone talks about how silly Ace Attorney is but only ever mentions the parrot and the Almost Christmas thing, so here’s a few highlights of insane shit that happens in Ace Attorney that I personally adore:

The famous orca defendant from Phoenix’s first case after disbarment turns out to be the secret sibling of another orca… who was also falsely accused of murder

The final case of what is widely considered one of the best games in the series involves a clown crushing the president of fantasy Hong Kong to death with a hot air balloon. The president turns out to be a body double who replaced the original president 15 years prior. This is all taken completely seriously

The inciting incident of effectively the entire series was an episode of cupcake wars that went really, REALLY poorly

The plot of the most recent mainline game is “what if defense attorneys were systematically oppressed by the government”

The main character gets hit by a car in one of the cases and walks it off. He does sprain his ankle though

Two separate characters can summon butterflies in court and make their scarves levitate. They have literally no relation to each other and this inexplicable telekinesis is never mentioned by the cast even once

A major plot point in one of the cases is someone tying a corpse to the end of a rope and then pendulum swinging them across a bridge so aggressively they get launched 30 feet into the air on the other side. This is fully animated and you get to watch it happen no less than 4 times

I thought that was just Moloch dressed as Krampus?? The idea he looks similar is cool tho

It probably was, but I just really like making new characters at the slightest provocation.

It would make for a good fic/fan-comic, at least.

I like to think Krampus would sound just like Moloch but with a German accent and has grown to hate his job (He'd be great friends with Rick).