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Something I noticed while rewatching Oops is that when Stolas shows up, Ozzie checks his watch, which is on his right wrist, but right before Fizz safely returns to the office Ozzie checks his watch, which is now on Ozzie's left wrist.

This means one of two things: Either the animators couldn't keep it consistent on which wrist Ozzie's watch is, OR Ozzie wears identical watches with his sigil on them on each wrist. The former is more likely but I choose to believe the latter, purely because it's funny.

For all we know, Mammon might be the one fanning the flames to keep eyes off of whatever shady shit he's up to, or maybe he's just targeting Ozzie for taking Fizz and some of the income he brought in away. After all, it only makes sense Mammon wouldn't forgive someone for hurting his bottom line, no matter how minor the damage was.

Trying read the article and it defo mentions big wallet near the end. - Fizz is only using Ozzie for his money and bla bla bla.

We of course know that isn't true.

I think the rumours are maybe getting to fizz? Even though he is famous, he is still an imp who hold the lowest ranking in Hell's hierarchy with hellhounds.

Poor dude even throws the bin out the window after putting the news paper in the bin.

The rumours have defo been going on for a while. He's nervous when the workers see ozz and him snuggling near the end of the episode.

Edit: Ozzie has defo had enough of the focus on him and Fizz in the news as well. As well as the workers disgussing it behind their backs. He can probably sense Fizz is uncomfortable as well?

I wonder if Mammon will mention anything about it next episode.... I'm interested about what the other sins think. Except for Bee of course, cause she would defo support their relationship.

(Idk what else to put I'm tired. been up for over 24 hours -now edited)

So after reading a post from @anthurak I couldn't stop thinking about one particular sentence:

Ozzie makes a big point about how he believes lust should be consensual between all parties, openly decrying the use of ‘love potions’ and other means of coercing.

Eventually I realized which part stuck in my mind:

openly decrying the use of ‘love potions’ and other means of coercing.

The reason this stuck out to me is it made me realize that if Ozzie knew about the fact that Stolas basically used the grimoire to extort favors from Blitz on a monthly basis up until the events of Western Energy, he probably wouldn't approve of their relationship as much as he does.

I'd like expand on this, maybe Mammon can literally smell opportunity in people, as in sensing how desperate and/or exploitable their current state of mind is.

Similar to how Bee is able to "taste the flavor" of people at her parties and basically get an idea of how everyone is feeling, I like to imagine Ozzie has some natural ability where he's able to sense a person's sexuality just by looking at them.

Somewhat related, despite what some people might assume, he's actually got zero issue with people being asexual. After all, lust shouldn't be forced, and if you just don't feel it, or literally only feel it for specific people or in certain circumstances, he's not gonna give you grief about it.

New HB teaser!

So we finally got the second teaser for the midseason special, here's the link. To me, this reads as the first time Fizz and Ozzie really bond after Fizz starts working for Mammon.

I know some people have other predictions for the episode, but at least for me, there doesn't seem to be a way for this episode to not explore Fizz's life between the fire and the present.

All that actually brings me to a new theory: Maybe the titular musical is a dramatized version of Fizz's career starring Mam and Fizz as themselves and the new teaser could be Fizz remembering his encounter with the real Ozzie while reenacting it on stage with a stand-in. This could be a parallel to Blitz having a flashback on the sitcom set in Seeing Stars.

On a side note, line recording for season 3 has started and we've been told the following things: Wally is confirmed to have a speaking role in season 3, the voice of Perrito from Puss in Boots 2 joins the cast, and it seems there will be a court case of some kind.

It just occurred to me that Fizz may not be ABLE to quit. Allow me to explain.

In Oops, literally one episode ago, we learned that a business deal and/or contract made with a sin is, and I quote; "everlastingly binding". The context in which Stolas says this makes it clear that even the sin in question can't back out of the deal.

Given that Mammon almost certainly made Fizzarolli sign some sort of contract after, or even by winning the clown pageant for the first time, there's a good chance that even if Mammon wanted too, there would be no way for him and Fizz to get out of their business arrangement.

I haven't seen anyone else point this out but I think this is the exact reason Mammon seemed so sure he'd get the last laugh before making his exit.

Bold of you to assume I fear for Fizz or his safety, I'm a Mammon kinnie, I'll have you know.

It just occurred to me that Fizz may not be ABLE to quit. Allow me to explain.

In Oops, literally one episode ago, we learned that a business deal and/or contract made with a sin is, and I quote; "everlastingly binding". The context in which Stolas says this makes it clear that even the sin in question can't back out of the deal.

Given that Mammon almost certainly made Fizzarolli sign some sort of contract after, or even by winning the clown pageant for the first time, there's a good chance that even if Mammon wanted too, there would be no way for him and Fizz to get out of their business arrangement.

I haven't seen anyone else point this out but I think this is the exact reason Mammon seemed so sure he'd get the last laugh before making his exit.

Trick or treat ?

Treat!

Here's a cute little idea, Mammon would sometimes end up looking after baby Charlie, he initially thought it would by annoying but would try to entertain her with little tricks (using his stripped tongue like a noisemaker and so on). He ended up finding her so cute that he would frequently volunteer to babysit her. Even in the present, where Charlie wouldn't usually like to associate with someone like Mammon, and vice-versa, the two actually get along great and have a lot of niece-uncle in-jokes. In case you're wondering, yes, Asmodeus is jealous of this.

Visability reblog

Trick or treat ?

Treat!

Here's a cute little idea, Mammon would sometimes end up looking after baby Charlie, he initially thought it would by annoying but would try to entertain her with little tricks (using his stripped tongue like a noisemaker and so on). He ended up finding her so cute that he would frequently volunteer to babysit her. Even in the present, where Charlie wouldn't usually like to associate with someone like Mammon, and vice-versa, the two actually get along great and have a lot of niece-uncle in-jokes. In case you're wondering, yes, Asmodeus is jealous of this.

Why Mammon is objectively better

Mammon: Teleports in style, with sick explosions and confetti.

Asmodeus: Walks like the pea-brained cock he is.

Mammon: Very shaped and thus naturally adept at loafing.

Asmodeus: Neon cue tip looking headass, built like a drumstick without the drum, couldn't loaf for shit.

Mammon's full demon form: Kickass spider-tick-centipede-earwig hybrid while still keeping his awesome base design.

Asmodeus' full demon form: He just goes bigger and on fire.

Mammon: Confident and manages to have hoards of fans while being open about his many flaws.

Asmodeus: So insecure and lacking public good will that he had to hide his relationship for who knows how long and the dumbass couldn't even do that right.

Mammon: Thrives based on the sin he has dominion over, runs numerous industries that supply all of Hell with slews of products for every occasion.

Asmodeus: Doesn't even understand how his sin is supposed to work and his whole ring and all his businesses aren't good for shit unless you're feeling thirsty.

In case you couldn't tell, this is an Ass-modeus hate blog now. All hail Mammon!

Why Ozzie is really the weakest sin

Ever since I watch Mammon's Magnificent Musical Mid-Season Special I've felt pretty certain in my idea as to what makes Asmodeus the weakest Sin. Put simply, lust is the most narrowly defined sin.

All the other sins have either multiple motives to drive someone to commit them or a very wide variety of ways in which someone can commit them. This is reflected in each ring we've seen having a role in Hell as a whole:

Pride: Housing sinners

Wrath: Food production and possibly weapons manufacturing

Gluttony: The hellhound pounds and a larger focus on entertainment venues than other rings

Greed: General industry, manufacture of most frequently used goods.

Lust: Adult entertainment

Envy: N/A

Sloth: Medicine, pharmacy and tourism (according to the Lust ring newspaper in Oops)

You'll notice that the most narrow and specialized ring is Lust. If the Sins themselves feed on people committing their sins ( as evidenced by Bee comments about making honey and tasting her guests vibes). The limited scope and variety of lust would leave Ozzie "malnourished" in relation to the others. Him having more limited and simple powers when compared to Bee and Mam makes a lot more sense with this in mind.

A Mammon Analysis Written By A Mammon Kinnie! :8D

It's time to make y'all love this magnificent bastard even more than you already do so we can finally have something just happen in this fandom!

First off, the analysis.

A lot of people seem to think of Mammon as "dumb" or "oblivious", when he's far from either. Mammon is actually a very intelligent and attentive person, but just like most subtle things about him, it can be hard to notice because of his eccentricities.

As far as I see it, Mammon views everything he does as an investment to some extent, whether it be a literal monetary one or one of time, effort and/or attention. This is also one of the big things that make him so relatable to me. It's also worth noting that as a flipside to this, he also sees any option he's presented with in terms of physical or emotional value and trying to maximize said value as much as possible.

Mam doesn't interrupt "Two Minutes Notice" not because he's stupid, but because insults don't truly detract from the value of him or anything he has, not to mention the fact that he could tell that a lot of people would be willing to buy the song, just look how many are hanging of Fizz's every word when he describes having a crappy boss.

Likewise, criticizing Fizz's weight is something Mam solely does because it helps profits and has no genuine personal issue with Fizz potentially getting chunkier.

This shows something else interesting about Mammon, he doesn't really want to do destructive things, people just keep giving him every reason to do so, he's not dangerous on his own.

Every action Mam takes that makes Fizz uncomfortable is a direct result of him catering to what the consumers want, whether it be religiously watching his spokesman's weight for the sake of keeping the skinny sex-bots accurate, or forcing a mentally unstable person to spend a lot of time socializing to get people to pay admission for a meet-&-greet.

There's also the fact that he runs Greed in such a way that benefits Hell as a whole way more than Ozzie and Bee do. Admittedly, he over charges for his products, but said products are up to snuff, you'd expect him to peddle cheap junk that falls apart almost instantly, but no, he makes quality products and just charges extra. He really is a shrewd businessman when you get down to it, and that's something a lot of people have sadly overlooked when discussing our favorite spider.

Which brings me to my next point, Mammon being a spider is actually really clever, assuming what I'm about to describe was intended and not just me reading too much into a cheap Australia joke. Spiders are often shown as eerie and a way of reminding the viewer of a piece of media that nature can be scary, and though they do some really weird and freaky stuff, that's also the beauty of spiders. They have some of the most innovative and distinct hunting patterns in nature, they're more of a neutral presence, just like greed itself.

I've seen many people claim in their analysis of Mammon that "greed can't be good" which is just demonstrably untrue, greed is really just any action that prioritizes bettering oneself, it's only destructive if you are willing to be destructive, but even then it can lead to innovation and broad positive change, even if someone is worse off because of it.

Lastly, I want to discuss Mammon's obvious need for personal affection, the big guy is blatantly touch starved and craves a close connection, I have a rather headcanon-y idea about the origin of this behavior and I plan to link to it once I post about it in detail, but that can wait. However, this does reflect that idea of value and investment, Mam has yet to find someone who is both pleasant for him to be around and whose company has a reasonable "price". I see many possibilities for exploring this facet of his characterization and look forward to seeing the discussion about it grow.

Stay tuned for my HCs and theories about his Stinginess! ALL HAIL MAMMON!

The real reason a "Fizz Show" couldn't work is because, outside of the episode where we see Ozzie and Fizz dealing with the consequences of officially becoming a couple, the writing has already exhausted all the story potential these characters have.

Fizz has mended his relationship with Blitz as far as it realistically could be mended, Ozzie has become more direct with saying what he thinks of Fizz's decisions and they'll get over Mammon together in their next feature episode.

At this point they're nothing but "cute quirky boyfriend" and "cute "cool" boyfriend" and have lost all of their appeal, at least to me.

People are talking about a Fizz centric spin off and I think that’s a really bad idea he and Oz are great but I just do not trust that their writing wouldn’t go off the deep end into shit territory

Literally everyone from Blitz's past will have two more episodes, at best, and then their stories will just be used as fodder to force drive Blitz to "make things right" with Stol-ass, bleugh. Fizz was a really interesting character to think about, but it's clear that the genuinely solid parts of his story were grafted onto the Stolitz "arc" and that his own story is essentially already over. :(

The best thing that came out of the series' detour into FizzarOzzie for the last two episodes is the unmatched perfection that is Mammon.

People are talking about a Fizz centric spin off and I think that’s a really bad idea he and Oz are great but I just do not trust that their writing wouldn’t go off the deep end into shit territory

Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) Headcanons

You can see my first batch of thoughts for these two here.

This particular batch is quite general and will have some family stuff and how the relationship effects those around the lovely couple.

Mammon is, ironically, more of a night owl than Stella and she often falls asleep first.

Before they got together, Mam would usually sleep with a large pillow in his arms for slight emotional comfort. Stella's presence comforts him far more, calling back to the last one, though it still takes him a bit to nod off it's still quicker than before.

Mam always brags about Stella to the other Sins, especially Ozzie. Even her smallest achievement is something Mammon cherishes as much as possible.

Speaking of Ozzie, the first time he talked to Mammon after he started dating Stella, he made a crack at Mammon going blind to a gold-digger over her own "assets". Before he could properly register it, Mam had him pinned to the floor with a hand tightening around his neck, Ozz immediately took his joke back. It was then that he realized that the seemingly impossible happened, Mammon was in a loving relationship.

Expanding on the concept of Stella sating her curiosity about "peasant" things, she tries to play a fighting game with Via and struggles. Via tells her not to worry about it, but the lose activates Stella's competitive nature and she starts practicing in her free time (Something Mammon makes sure she has plenty of) . She absolutely demolishes both Mam and Via at the next family game night. And that was how Octavia learned how quick of a learner her mother is.

This one was originally an ask for @pinkandpurple360 but it seemingly went the way of HB's original premise: While he got to see Charlie grow up and now has a daughter in Octavia, Mammon wishes deep down that he could raise a child of his own blood. It's not that he doesn't love Charlie and Via, he just can't help but feel he's missing something he wants. He considers asking Stella about having another kid, but knows that she was forced to have Via. This makes him confront the dilemma of pursuing his wish or not reawakening the trauma of the woman he loves. This idea definitely deserves more exploration, maybe in a fic.

After Stella and Mammon get hitched, people returning their Robofizz becomes a far rarer phenomenon, mostly because word gets out that Via personally "deactivates" any returned or recalled Fizzbots, who start going above and beyond to please their owners to avoid the princess' coulrophobia-fueled fury.

Honestly the show lost me on Ozzie x fizz (as well as stolitz had everything from circus onwards not killed it it for me) when bee and Tex were revealed to be a thing, not only that, but happily and proudly in a relationship, which means Ozzie (And by extension Stolas) should have nothing to fear from Mammon or Stella respectively

Honestly Both Stolas and Ozzie should sod off, Blitz and Fizz deserve to be together, as do Mammon and Stella

I think the thing with Ozzie is that as the Sin of Lust, he's supposed to stay out of formal relationships so being with Fizz might contradict his duties. Whilst Stolas is mostly (and rightfully) in trouble for cheating on his wife (yes, it does count as cheating even though you were arranged, you gangly, feathery jizz-rag) and loaning a goetic artifact out to an imp. Bee's relationship with Tex doesn't negatively impact her performance as Sin of Gluttony and their isn't any m'guffin loaning going on, so they shouldn't have any problems.

While there is some questionable stuff involved in Fizzrozzie, most of it is not that serious and Fizz has two hands.

Stolas on the other hand, deserves to have his balls cut off and blended and then he should be forced to drink his own ball smoothie.

Glad you've joined the Golden Goose bandwagon, they're both awesome and are even more awesome together. Definitely have plans for more Mam x Stella stuff.

More Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) stuff! (and some other HCs)

Much like the last volume, this batch of ideas will contain some HCs that are only included by virtue of association with a Golden Goose one.

Mammon doesn't have any chefs in his house staff, partly because he doesn't want the extra expense, but also because he actually enjoys cooking and is very skilled at it. This comes as a pleasant surprise to Stella and Octavia.

Contrasting the last one, Ozzie is actually a pretty sloppy cook and doesn't know many recipes, it's just that, unlike Fizz, the things he makes can at least be called food. The only reason they didn't have a chef was to lessen the risk of someone "discovering" their relationship. The first thing Asmodeus did after the mid-season special was put out a chef wanted ad.

Stella will often tell Mam stories about Via as a little kid and show him any accompanying photos she has. He's always enthralled by these and starts his own family photo album shortly after the first time Stella does this. Mammon sometimes spends minutes on end looking at the album, it's come closer than anything else to making him run late for a meeting.

Whenever they cross paths Mam chews out Stolas for treating his family like shit. Stolas tries the defend himself the first time but Mammon doesn't let him pull his scummy excuses. After that, Stolas would just fume in silence and shame whenever this happens.

Via eventually starts writing and composing her own songs and puts together an album. Mam and Stella are super proud but also not sure what to do when it comes to releasing it. After a long family discussion, Mam decides Via can perform it, but only at an exclusive royal gathering, while it's publicly released later under the stage name Great Eclipse, with a slight voice modifier.

Stella has a deep appreciation of art, especially performance art. Any performance that's any performance will have Greed's royal family in the audience. Stella also often listens to Via's songs in her free time.

Stella sometimes calls Mammon "Muffin" as a pet name. Her reasoning is that he's big, warm, soft and sweet (and she loves the way he tastes).

Lastly, for some angst and comfort: Early into the relationship Stella often felt a sense of not being good enough for or being a burden to Mam, as she didn't have much varied life experience. This would sometimes throw her into manic depressive states and bring out her more aggressive side. The first time this happened Mam freaked out and was terrified that he'd lose Stella. Luckily, Via was able to smooth out the situation and tell Mammon about her mom's problems and the signs that she's having a "mood". Ever since then, if Mam even thinks that Stella is having those self deprecating intrusive thoughts he makes sure to do something extra just for her. No matter how small it is, Stella always cherishes it and these issues almost completely disappear by the time they get married.

Having read your analysis on Bee, I found myself thinking up a scenerio wherein Mammon chews out the other Sins. Like, the others air out their grievances with Mam and how him personifying Greed rather than encouraging it is giving them a bad public image, what with them being what is basically celebrities in the context of the show. Mammon would sat through it, silently glaring at the others, and when they’re done, he just tears into them. Mammon then proceeds to pick apart the other Sins’ actions and behaviors, noting how they used to personify their respective vices before eventually becoming the watered down versions of themselves they are in the present, probably even questioning why they’d even bother doing so in the first place. The others would probably try to “high road” him, but Mam isn’t having any of it and admits that, yes he is an unapologetically shitty person, but at the very least he’s honest about it, unlike them and the countless skeletons they undoubtedly keep in their closets. (I always interpreted Mammon’s only reason for trying to (poorly) hide his greedy nature is so he doesn’t alienate his potential consumers) Eventually, Mammon decides he’s tired of the conversation, notes he’s got a hot date with a recent divorcee later, and teleports away, leaving the others to stand in awkward silence, none of them willing to admit that Mammon’s verbal eviseration was right on the mark.

Sorry for the wall of text, just sort of had a flash of inspiration from your analysis.

Mam chewing them out would be extremely cathartic to see. After giving it some thought, I think Ozzie and Bee might be the only Sins that go out of their way to "mitigate" their public images. It would work especially well if Mammon reminds them of how well they used to get along and how, unlike Ozzie, he hasn't gone out of his way to antagonize them despite their "growth".

To elaborate on the Bee and Ozzie thing, Lucifer is canonically a pretentious ass to everyone but his family, Bel is highly implied to be so apathetic and lazy that she uses Sloth's general population as her test subjects and is likely too apathetic to care about appearances. What we've seen of Wrath doesn't paint the best picture of Satan, and it's too early to say anything about Levi, or Envy in general.

Nice to see the Golden Goose agenda spreading. And don't sweat it, text walls written in streams of consciousness are always more than welcome here!

What do u mean not the best picture of satan

Sorry for the late answer. What I meant was that Wrath seems to be the most chaotic and naturally harsh ring, let's not forget the scene in Western Energy where a gang jump Moxxie for wearing the same hat as their leader. If the rings are a reflection of their Sins, that implies Satan will likely be closer to Mammon than Asmodeus or Beelzebub.

Here’s a wholesome Charlie and Mammon idea I’ve had for a while:

Often when Mammon babysat little Charlie, she’d more or less climb all over him like a little monkey or have him carry her around like the little princess she was. This would frequently lead to Mammon have to go about his day with Charlie perched on his shoulder or sleeping on top of his head. None of Mammon’s employees or servants would comment on this for fear of provoking him and the other Sins (and Lilith) would either fawn or jealously fume at the sight.

Going off of the above, I can also imagine a young Charlie laying on a Mammon’s stomach, My Neighbor Totoro-style.

YESSS!!!!!💚💚💚

Mam is a soft lad and a loving uncle. I love the idea of him being Charlie's favorite pillow, so forgive for ranting about it with the following HCs.

The Sins had a rough schedule for when they would babysit and Charlie would get super pouty when Mammon could make it.

I like to think that out of all her aunts and uncles, Mam talked to Charlie the most when she was just starting to talk and one day she called him "Unky" and he damn near sobbed on the spot.

The nickname stuck over the years and made the others, especially Ozz, really butthurt. Example:

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*during a meeting*

Amsodeus: So, Luci, need me to fill in tonight?

Lucifer: Oh, no, that reminds me actually, Mammon, do you think you could look after Charlie tonight, she really wants to see you again.

Mammon: Sure, love t-

Asmodeus: Hold the fucking phone, what do you mean she "wants to see him"? How do you know that? She can barely speak!

Lucifer: She drew this. *Pulls out a drawing with a little red triangle labeled "ME" and a bunch of green triangle labeled "Unky"*

Mammon: Aww... Can I keep it.

Lucifer: No. This is going on the fridge.

*after the meeting*

Asmodeus: Why do you get to be Unky? >:{

Mammon: Cuz I'm her favorite. >8)

Amsodeus: No you're not! (Author's note, yes he is)

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Another idea I had was that when Charlie's a little older her private tutors would give her homework and she'd always work on her math when Mam was looking after her.

Since Mam's the businessman to end all businessmen he sure as shit wasn't gonna let his niece be bad at math. He'd keep her company while she was doing her homework and give her some tips if she got stuck, without just telling her the answer. Usually they would do this routine while he was laying down and holding any books Charlie wasn't currently using as Charlie laid on top of him.

I know this was way more than you asked for but I love the money spider and think about him probably more than is healthy.