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Cash's Past and Future

Recently more and more people have been theorizing on what happened to Pa Buckzo after the fire but I haven't encountered anyone who shares my theory, but before we get to it, CONTEXT!

While Mammon's involvement and even awareness is still up in the air, we can safely say that Cash knowingly acted as one of, and likely THE main agent that drove Blitz and Fizz apart after the accident. This naturally raises the question of why? The answer is obviously money, this is Cash Buckzo were talking about, but HOW would he make money off of it? The answer is right under our noses, specifically in Oops:

The Clown Pageant!

I believe Fizzarolli participated in one shortly before the fire which attracted Mam's attention, but not enough for him to seek Fizz out immediately. When he eventually does he finds the rising star horribly disfigured and the circus he worked for destroyed, with it's owner in an absolute shitfit, he then offers Cash the chance to seek out new entertainment ventures without his unwanted family, all for the low-low price of his (effectively) adopted son's agency.

After all this, Cash, likely under a false identity to avoid being recognized by former acquaintances, enjoys a fairly comfortable life somewhere in Greed, possibly even occasionally working directly with Mammon himself.

The reveal of this in the series proper would come with Blitz coming face to face with Mammon, only to run into him mid conversation with his dead beat father, chaos and emotional damage ensue.

So, yeah, I think Cash will actually be a more substantial villain than most fans currently think, even if he doesn't end up with much actual screen time.

New HB teaser!

So we finally got the second teaser for the midseason special, here's the link. To me, this reads as the first time Fizz and Ozzie really bond after Fizz starts working for Mammon.

I know some people have other predictions for the episode, but at least for me, there doesn't seem to be a way for this episode to not explore Fizz's life between the fire and the present.

All that actually brings me to a new theory: Maybe the titular musical is a dramatized version of Fizz's career starring Mam and Fizz as themselves and the new teaser could be Fizz remembering his encounter with the real Ozzie while reenacting it on stage with a stand-in. This could be a parallel to Blitz having a flashback on the sitcom set in Seeing Stars.

On a side note, line recording for season 3 has started and we've been told the following things: Wally is confirmed to have a speaking role in season 3, the voice of Perrito from Puss in Boots 2 joins the cast, and it seems there will be a court case of some kind.

It just occurred to me that Fizz may not be ABLE to quit. Allow me to explain.

In Oops, literally one episode ago, we learned that a business deal and/or contract made with a sin is, and I quote; "everlastingly binding". The context in which Stolas says this makes it clear that even the sin in question can't back out of the deal.

Given that Mammon almost certainly made Fizzarolli sign some sort of contract after, or even by winning the clown pageant for the first time, there's a good chance that even if Mammon wanted too, there would be no way for him and Fizz to get out of their business arrangement.

I haven't seen anyone else point this out but I think this is the exact reason Mammon seemed so sure he'd get the last laugh before making his exit.

Bold of you to assume I fear for Fizz or his safety, I'm a Mammon kinnie, I'll have you know.

It just occurred to me that Fizz may not be ABLE to quit. Allow me to explain.

In Oops, literally one episode ago, we learned that a business deal and/or contract made with a sin is, and I quote; "everlastingly binding". The context in which Stolas says this makes it clear that even the sin in question can't back out of the deal.

Given that Mammon almost certainly made Fizzarolli sign some sort of contract after, or even by winning the clown pageant for the first time, there's a good chance that even if Mammon wanted too, there would be no way for him and Fizz to get out of their business arrangement.

I haven't seen anyone else point this out but I think this is the exact reason Mammon seemed so sure he'd get the last laugh before making his exit.

"Weaponized friendliness", as an irritable introvert I thank you for naming this phenomenon which is so important to my day-to-day survival.

Mammon’s weaponised friendliness. Each scene he was hugging and pawing at Fizz to an uncomfortable level. He’s perfect, I love him

REJOICE! Mammon has offered you his blessing!

All you have to do to receive good financial luck and business acumen is reblog this post and join Mammon in stomping Fizzarolli!

Go on, stomp the little prick, there's no reason not to!

A Mammon Analysis Written By A Mammon Kinnie! :8D

It's time to make y'all love this magnificent bastard even more than you already do so we can finally have something just happen in this fandom!

First off, the analysis.

A lot of people seem to think of Mammon as "dumb" or "oblivious", when he's far from either. Mammon is actually a very intelligent and attentive person, but just like most subtle things about him, it can be hard to notice because of his eccentricities.

As far as I see it, Mammon views everything he does as an investment to some extent, whether it be a literal monetary one or one of time, effort and/or attention. This is also one of the big things that make him so relatable to me. It's also worth noting that as a flipside to this, he also sees any option he's presented with in terms of physical or emotional value and trying to maximize said value as much as possible.

Mam doesn't interrupt "Two Minutes Notice" not because he's stupid, but because insults don't truly detract from the value of him or anything he has, not to mention the fact that he could tell that a lot of people would be willing to buy the song, just look how many are hanging of Fizz's every word when he describes having a crappy boss.

Likewise, criticizing Fizz's weight is something Mam solely does because it helps profits and has no genuine personal issue with Fizz potentially getting chunkier.

This shows something else interesting about Mammon, he doesn't really want to do destructive things, people just keep giving him every reason to do so, he's not dangerous on his own.

Every action Mam takes that makes Fizz uncomfortable is a direct result of him catering to what the consumers want, whether it be religiously watching his spokesman's weight for the sake of keeping the skinny sex-bots accurate, or forcing a mentally unstable person to spend a lot of time socializing to get people to pay admission for a meet-&-greet.

There's also the fact that he runs Greed in such a way that benefits Hell as a whole way more than Ozzie and Bee do. Admittedly, he over charges for his products, but said products are up to snuff, you'd expect him to peddle cheap junk that falls apart almost instantly, but no, he makes quality products and just charges extra. He really is a shrewd businessman when you get down to it, and that's something a lot of people have sadly overlooked when discussing our favorite spider.

Which brings me to my next point, Mammon being a spider is actually really clever, assuming what I'm about to describe was intended and not just me reading too much into a cheap Australia joke. Spiders are often shown as eerie and a way of reminding the viewer of a piece of media that nature can be scary, and though they do some really weird and freaky stuff, that's also the beauty of spiders. They have some of the most innovative and distinct hunting patterns in nature, they're more of a neutral presence, just like greed itself.

I've seen many people claim in their analysis of Mammon that "greed can't be good" which is just demonstrably untrue, greed is really just any action that prioritizes bettering oneself, it's only destructive if you are willing to be destructive, but even then it can lead to innovation and broad positive change, even if someone is worse off because of it.

Lastly, I want to discuss Mammon's obvious need for personal affection, the big guy is blatantly touch starved and craves a close connection, I have a rather headcanon-y idea about the origin of this behavior and I plan to link to it once I post about it in detail, but that can wait. However, this does reflect that idea of value and investment, Mam has yet to find someone who is both pleasant for him to be around and whose company has a reasonable "price". I see many possibilities for exploring this facet of his characterization and look forward to seeing the discussion about it grow.

Stay tuned for my HCs and theories about his Stinginess! ALL HAIL MAMMON!

Hii! Something that’s been haunting me for a while now is how would an analysis of Mammon would go down in relation with Tom Cardys song “your love is not enough” (if you’ve listened to it) and I’d love to get some other viewpoints on this :}

I haven't listened to the song but have seen at least two people say it fits Mammon, so I might check it out.

One song that I personally associate with Mam is Kick It Up A Notch, it nails the vibe him manipulating Fizz to work for him. The fact it's sung by a giant scorpion also helps. (I know scorpions aren't actually that close to spiders, but the general mood is there)

Also, I don't care what anyone says, this is the anthem of the Greed ring.

The real reason a "Fizz Show" couldn't work is because, outside of the episode where we see Ozzie and Fizz dealing with the consequences of officially becoming a couple, the writing has already exhausted all the story potential these characters have.

Fizz has mended his relationship with Blitz as far as it realistically could be mended, Ozzie has become more direct with saying what he thinks of Fizz's decisions and they'll get over Mammon together in their next feature episode.

At this point they're nothing but "cute quirky boyfriend" and "cute "cool" boyfriend" and have lost all of their appeal, at least to me.

People are talking about a Fizz centric spin off and I think that’s a really bad idea he and Oz are great but I just do not trust that their writing wouldn’t go off the deep end into shit territory

Literally everyone from Blitz's past will have two more episodes, at best, and then their stories will just be used as fodder to force drive Blitz to "make things right" with Stol-ass, bleugh. Fizz was a really interesting character to think about, but it's clear that the genuinely solid parts of his story were grafted onto the Stolitz "arc" and that his own story is essentially already over. :(

The best thing that came out of the series' detour into FizzarOzzie for the last two episodes is the unmatched perfection that is Mammon.

People are talking about a Fizz centric spin off and I think that’s a really bad idea he and Oz are great but I just do not trust that their writing wouldn’t go off the deep end into shit territory

Can you imagine if in sinsmas Fizz has a Loona slip up moment where he says to mammon “shut up dad!!” And then he screams in horror at himself while Mammon is like 🤩 son!!

I doubt the Sins will actually be in the episode, but that would be fucking hilarious!

On the topic of Mam wanting to be a dad, here's something I realized:

Charlie is in her early-to-mid twenties, Blitz and Fizz are in their mid-to-late thirties, they're around 15 in the flashback at the beginning of the mid-season special, placing it around 20 years ago. This means that the first confirmed instance of Mammon wanting a kid happened around the time Charlie was born. Conclusion: He's a loving uncle, your honor. :)

Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) Headcanons

You can see my first batch of thoughts for these two here.

This particular batch is quite general and will have some family stuff and how the relationship effects those around the lovely couple.

Mammon is, ironically, more of a night owl than Stella and she often falls asleep first.

Before they got together, Mam would usually sleep with a large pillow in his arms for slight emotional comfort. Stella's presence comforts him far more, calling back to the last one, though it still takes him a bit to nod off it's still quicker than before.

Mam always brags about Stella to the other Sins, especially Ozzie. Even her smallest achievement is something Mammon cherishes as much as possible.

Speaking of Ozzie, the first time he talked to Mammon after he started dating Stella, he made a crack at Mammon going blind to a gold-digger over her own "assets". Before he could properly register it, Mam had him pinned to the floor with a hand tightening around his neck, Ozz immediately took his joke back. It was then that he realized that the seemingly impossible happened, Mammon was in a loving relationship.

Expanding on the concept of Stella sating her curiosity about "peasant" things, she tries to play a fighting game with Via and struggles. Via tells her not to worry about it, but the lose activates Stella's competitive nature and she starts practicing in her free time (Something Mammon makes sure she has plenty of) . She absolutely demolishes both Mam and Via at the next family game night. And that was how Octavia learned how quick of a learner her mother is.

This one was originally an ask for @pinkandpurple360 but it seemingly went the way of HB's original premise: While he got to see Charlie grow up and now has a daughter in Octavia, Mammon wishes deep down that he could raise a child of his own blood. It's not that he doesn't love Charlie and Via, he just can't help but feel he's missing something he wants. He considers asking Stella about having another kid, but knows that she was forced to have Via. This makes him confront the dilemma of pursuing his wish or not reawakening the trauma of the woman he loves. This idea definitely deserves more exploration, maybe in a fic.

After Stella and Mammon get hitched, people returning their Robofizz becomes a far rarer phenomenon, mostly because word gets out that Via personally "deactivates" any returned or recalled Fizzbots, who start going above and beyond to please their owners to avoid the princess' coulrophobia-fueled fury.

Honestly the show lost me on Ozzie x fizz (as well as stolitz had everything from circus onwards not killed it it for me) when bee and Tex were revealed to be a thing, not only that, but happily and proudly in a relationship, which means Ozzie (And by extension Stolas) should have nothing to fear from Mammon or Stella respectively

Honestly Both Stolas and Ozzie should sod off, Blitz and Fizz deserve to be together, as do Mammon and Stella

I think the thing with Ozzie is that as the Sin of Lust, he's supposed to stay out of formal relationships so being with Fizz might contradict his duties. Whilst Stolas is mostly (and rightfully) in trouble for cheating on his wife (yes, it does count as cheating even though you were arranged, you gangly, feathery jizz-rag) and loaning a goetic artifact out to an imp. Bee's relationship with Tex doesn't negatively impact her performance as Sin of Gluttony and their isn't any m'guffin loaning going on, so they shouldn't have any problems.

While there is some questionable stuff involved in Fizzrozzie, most of it is not that serious and Fizz has two hands.

Stolas on the other hand, deserves to have his balls cut off and blended and then he should be forced to drink his own ball smoothie.

Glad you've joined the Golden Goose bandwagon, they're both awesome and are even more awesome together. Definitely have plans for more Mam x Stella stuff.

More Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) stuff! (and some other HCs)

Much like the last volume, this batch of ideas will contain some HCs that are only included by virtue of association with a Golden Goose one.

Mammon doesn't have any chefs in his house staff, partly because he doesn't want the extra expense, but also because he actually enjoys cooking and is very skilled at it. This comes as a pleasant surprise to Stella and Octavia.

Contrasting the last one, Ozzie is actually a pretty sloppy cook and doesn't know many recipes, it's just that, unlike Fizz, the things he makes can at least be called food. The only reason they didn't have a chef was to lessen the risk of someone "discovering" their relationship. The first thing Asmodeus did after the mid-season special was put out a chef wanted ad.

Stella will often tell Mam stories about Via as a little kid and show him any accompanying photos she has. He's always enthralled by these and starts his own family photo album shortly after the first time Stella does this. Mammon sometimes spends minutes on end looking at the album, it's come closer than anything else to making him run late for a meeting.

Whenever they cross paths Mam chews out Stolas for treating his family like shit. Stolas tries the defend himself the first time but Mammon doesn't let him pull his scummy excuses. After that, Stolas would just fume in silence and shame whenever this happens.

Via eventually starts writing and composing her own songs and puts together an album. Mam and Stella are super proud but also not sure what to do when it comes to releasing it. After a long family discussion, Mam decides Via can perform it, but only at an exclusive royal gathering, while it's publicly released later under the stage name Great Eclipse, with a slight voice modifier.

Stella has a deep appreciation of art, especially performance art. Any performance that's any performance will have Greed's royal family in the audience. Stella also often listens to Via's songs in her free time.

Stella sometimes calls Mammon "Muffin" as a pet name. Her reasoning is that he's big, warm, soft and sweet (and she loves the way he tastes).

Lastly, for some angst and comfort: Early into the relationship Stella often felt a sense of not being good enough for or being a burden to Mam, as she didn't have much varied life experience. This would sometimes throw her into manic depressive states and bring out her more aggressive side. The first time this happened Mam freaked out and was terrified that he'd lose Stella. Luckily, Via was able to smooth out the situation and tell Mammon about her mom's problems and the signs that she's having a "mood". Ever since then, if Mam even thinks that Stella is having those self deprecating intrusive thoughts he makes sure to do something extra just for her. No matter how small it is, Stella always cherishes it and these issues almost completely disappear by the time they get married.

Easy, Mammon. Fizz has a very simple design with a complex outfit, while Mam has more complexity to his design as well as his outfit, though Fizz's is more varied. Of course Mammon can pull off a more complex look, it ads to what's there, Fizz's version of Mam's suit doesn't ad enough to be visually satisfying.

I know you were probably expecting a joke answer, and that's what I was gonna do at first, but this made me realize that Mam's design is even better and more beautiful than I already knew it to be.

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Outfit swap :]

[This made me realize they really do look similar and have very similar outfits

I refused to change their iconic hats I really tried and I hated it they looked so fucking goofy 💀❗️‼️]

He'd look better, just not good enough to match Mammon. Ironic really, since the whole mid-season special Fizz is saying he isn't good enough, turns out he really wasn't!

Also, thank you for making me your go-to Mam expert :8)

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Outfit swap :]

[This made me realize they really do look similar and have very similar outfits

I refused to change their iconic hats I really tried and I hated it they looked so fucking goofy 💀❗️‼️]

It's actually worse. Blitz's reaction is angry but mostly confused, as in he doesn't realize how Mammon can have such a lack of self awareness.

Whether the writers wanted it to or not, the show has taken the stance of: "Fat shaming is ok, so long as the person you're fat shaming is fatter than you." And I really hope I don't have to explain why that's awful.

Fans when Mammon fat shame Fizz:

What a fat shaming bastard!😡

Fans when Loona fat shame Moxxie:

Ha ha, Loona so funny lol!😂

While I think that Mammon was better written than Stella, it would be like to see him kinda show some charisma with his fans.

Here is an idea.

Maybe the episode could show Mammon being loved by everyone in hell because he has knows how to get people to love him. What if when Fizz insults Mammon, Mammon’s fans actually turn on Fizz. When Fizz leaves with Asmodeus, people are actually booing him off the stage. Fizz and Asmodeus become a laughing stock and hated by everyone. It would not matter to Fizz and Asmodeus because they would have each other. However, there would still be that consequence to their actions. Asmodeus would have to deal with the bad publicity, but he got Fizz to leave Mammon. So, Asmodeus would still be happy. It would be bittersweet. What do you think?

You just solved my biggest issue with the episode! The ending always felt slightly off to me and this absolutely blows it out of the water!

I love that Mam wouldn't need to "make" people like him, despite being amoral, he's a genuinely endearing and charismatic guy. All he really needs to do is avoid the topic of business and he's free to be himself while the fans keep pouring in. (As they should, he deserves it)

It' also the perfect comeuppance for Ozzie and Fizz's hypocrisy in past episodes, it's the perfect way for Mammon to screw them over without having to do anything. You might see it as bittersweet, but as a Mammon kinnie, I consider this sweet as icing!

One a side note, being hated actually would matter to Fizz, but not directly. If enough people turned on him, Ozzie would probably become even more smothering than ever in fear of someone trying to harm Fizz, which would make Fizz even more uncomfortable with Ozzie essentially controlling his life. This would basically mean their personalities would effectively make them punish each other!

Maybe have a moment where Oliver runs out of the theatre in shock and betrayal.

This might just get incorporated into my GoldenGoose-verse

@pinkandpurple360 , you gotta get a look at this!

Fizz's big goof

So, I've been thinking about this for a while. While Fizz obviously quit for his own well-being, he also carried himself in a way that implied he was screwing over Mammon by quitting, when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Allow me to explain.

It's been confirmed that Glitz and Glam not only did legally win, but also survived getting squished. Meaning that they're Mam's new brand figures.

I bring this up because the episode goes out of it's way to portray the twins as being so extremely shallow that they only care about winning and being famous mascots, not money, not Mam's adoration, not for the sake of mastering clowning. They're also clearly okay with sexualizing themselves (as seen when one of them flashes the crowd). In other words, all the factors that made Fizz unhappy under Mammon and eventually made him quit are absent in the Glam sisters, there's no reason to think they'd ever want to quit.

Another thing is that, with two mascots, Mammon would make twice as much money, especially from completionists and extra horny weirdos.

While it was good for Fizz, him quitting didn't actually hurt Mam at all, quite the contrary, it dropped two people perfect for what Mammon needs from someone for the position of his brand figure directly into his lap!

Sucks to be you, Imp Jerky!

hi

I don’t know if you will believe me but I was the one who sent the ask about Mammon being charismatic and Fizz becoming hated.

I didn’t think anyone would like the idea. Thank you for liking it.

I would also be interesting if the other sins actually tried to convince Asmodeus to dump Fizz. Their relationship would become so hated that it would cause so much bad publicity to anyone famous who supported Asmodeus. I don’t know.

Sorry for forgetting this existed, had a few messy days.

Pretty neat idea you had!

The idea of the others turning on Ozz for going public with his relationship with Fizz is fascinating, I think it would be better if, instead of worrying about their own images, they all have their own reason for their advice and their own advice. Maybe Leviathan would care about the effect on their own image, Bee might be worried about how this could effect her and Tex too.

Might be more to this in the future, who knows!