So, It Took Me A Bit, But I Can Finally Share Some More Levi Thoughts, Including Responses To Some Of

So, it took me a bit, but I can finally share some more Levi thoughts, including responses to some of your answers.

But first,

This actually reminded me of something, so, as I've made clear, I think that there being 2 main species native to Sloth is due to it having 2 Sine level rulers, but what about the other ring with 2 native species, Greed?

The harlequins are clearly tied to Mammon, they look skeletal because they all have exoskeletons, they're basically non-bug shaped creepy crawlies.

And then we have the loan sharks. Yeah, I'm saying there was a second sea serpent in the Sins old troupe and that they were in a relationship with Mammon before eventually dying. This might happened early on if they created the sharks during the fall conflict, or maybe they were exterminated, which sparked Luci getting hellborns legally protected from exorcists.

I have some more ideas on this topic, as well as multiple directions to take it, but they can wait.

Right, now for specific answers,

You kind of missed the point, though I admit I made said point poorly.

My actual concept was Levi sticking to written reviews, because he's generally someone who thinks out loud and doesn't like running the risk of accidently getting it out that he looks for reasons to be as harsh a possible.

HOWEVER, there is some truth to your idea, mainly, that Levi has 2 ways of carrying himself. He's usually somewhat chatty and, again, thinks out loud. But when someone's pitching a work to him, that's when totally shifts. He would casually welcome you to his office one second before sitting down, changing the tone of his voice and going:

"So, you have something you want published, right?" *leans forward on his desk and sets a timer on his phone* " Sell me on it. Now."

You go that right, Levi has a lot of incentive to breed competition between authors. It proliferates envy, encourages faster writing and gives him rivalries to cover in the slew of gossip rags he runs.

Also, for you Golden Goose idea, I love it and it also gave me the adorable visual of Stella giving Mam a little pep talk before a meeting.

Popping in to share some Levi brainrot I've been mulling over for a bit.

I noticed your idea of Levi making the Vees resentful, but I personally think the opposite is somewhat more likely, allow me to explain. Sure, Levi still has most of the market, but so do the other Sins, and they (or at least most of them) don't really have a concrete rival for their business, again, mostly *cough* Ozzie is shit at his job *cough*. Sorry...I've got a soar throat. Anyway, The fact the Vees are able to be an opposing monolith at all is enough to seriously get under Levi's slimy scales.

Speaking of his appearance, I have a rather ironic observation regarding Levi, given his nature, he's the most likely to be resentful of the other Sins' successes, he would also sometimes scheme against them. This made me think of the Divine Comedy and the treachery circle being a frozen lake. So I thought, what if Envy's ocean is distinguished by having a lot of ice in it?

Though everyone's heard his voice somewhere, Levi is generally more comfortable expressing himself through written means, this is partly due to it being easier to lie through writing, and partly because when people read a witty insult, it's easy for them to makeup the proper delivery for it in their heads.

Also relating to his work, Levi is a publishing titan and has an easy pattern for approval. 1- When someone submits a work, look for places you could insert discussion bait. 2- Tell them to add it in or you're not publishing their thing. 3- If they agree, go all out on promotion for like 3 weeks before release, if they don't follow their activities in the industry and crush them with a scathing review if they publish elsewhre.

Levi has 1-3 lairs of teeth, depending on what for he's in.

And that's it for Levi time, at least for now.

Really sorry for the late response, I’ve been pretty busy today and then I lost the original draft to my reply. I really enjoyed these ideas, so I’m going to address each point:

You raise a good point about Levi being the jealous one. Honestly, that opens the door for a really fun dynamic. While the other Sins don’t think the Vees, or any Overlord for that matter, are anything to worry about, and you’ve got Leviathan whose just seething in his custom built underwater mansion and ruminate over how a trio of dead people have managed to build up their own mini empire over a period of decades when it took him, a proper demon, centuries to get his publication business the way he likes it. Not to mention how they’ve got a hold over a good chunk of the Pride ring, while his influence is rooted in Envy (The fact that he has a pretty strong presence in the other five rings isn’t good enough). The other Sins have probably gotten on Levi’s case for obsessing over (what they see as) relatively minor stuff like this in the past, so he’s begrudgingly decided to settle on just trying to slander the Vees and their brand.

The Vees for their part see the fact that they caught the ire of a Sin as a mixed bag. On the one hand, one of Hell’s biggest names sees them as a big enough deal to try and slander them. On the other, they recognize they are in a precarious position given the possibility of Levi actually taking a more active approach to dealing with them. Of course, this doesn’t stop them from taking time to subtly aggravate him. Then of course, there is the possibility of the Vees actually being mutually jealous of Levi, if only for the fact they covet the power and status being one of the 7 Deadly Sins grants.

The idea that Envy is a massive ocean populated by frozen islands is really interesting, especially given how much it differs from all of the other locales shown in both shows, barring Andrealphus’ mansion.

Levi is definitely that relative that makes passive aggressive comments or backhanded compliments when you succeed and tells everyone when you’ve failed, and given his field of work, I do mean everyone.

You cannot convince me that Levi is not petty and selfish enough that he started complaining the second Lucifer and Lilith announced they were having a child, strictly on the grounds that it would take the public’s attention away from him.

Leviathan preferring nonverbal means of communicating is a neat idea, especially given how nicely it ties with him potentially being the “creepy one”. I mean, being in the presence of a massive sea serpent is bad, but being in the presence of one that just silently stares at you and covets what you possess is even worse. Then of course is the rare instance that he does address someone verbally, because that shows, without a shadow of a doubt, you have Leviathan’s full, undivided attention.

That abusive way of managing fits really well, but I feel he’d take it even further and pit those under him against one another, fostering a toxic work environment where all of his employees are at each other’s throats and jealously doing anything to make sure their work gets approved for publication.

I think Levi having multiple rows of teeth is really fitting given you suggested he looks like an eel, as real eels have a second set of retractable jaws and (it could just be me) how there have been some subtle hints that Envy has a subtle duality motif. But I feel that it would be neat if the concept was pushed even further and each row of teeth is actually an individual, nested mouth Levi could talk out of, both for added demonic appeal and the fact it would literally allow him to lie through his teeth.

Now, with all of that said here are some ideas I had after reading them:

I will die on the hill that Leviathan was once the smallest member of the Sins and used to be envious of the others for their greater statutes. Fast forward to the present, Levi has done a complete 180, because unlike the others, he can’t make himself smaller, only bigger than he already is. This in turn makes him envious of the more “normal” sized demons, as he’s now stuck as a big fish in a world that doesn’t always accommodate him.

While reading your Leviathan ideas, I actually had a Golden Goose idea. I imagine Mammon revealing he found love with Stella completely floored the other Sins (especially Asmodeus), as he had been married to his job for millennia. After Mam leaves the meeting the others talk between themselves about this development, which leads to Levi going on a tirade about how Mammon found love before he did (which he’s done every time one of them has taken a lover), which leads to this:

Leviathan: “What the fuck!? Mammon!? Fucking Mammon!? What does that green sack of shit have that I don’t!?” Satan: (Not even bothering to look up from his phone) “A girlfriend.” Leviathan:

Thanks for the ask, I hope you enjoy my ramblings.

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Sorry, I'm actively talking with Cross, it's that, in school, Pump's mom had a little gossip racket going and new everyone's crushes.

Amen

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Shockingly, I have a non Mammon related idea to share. Namely, some ideas I’ve been mulling over of how Belphagor may be characterized:

Bel will be presented as surprisingly genial and diligent with her duties despite being drowsy 24/7 and constantly falling asleep (think Sleep from Orion and the Dark), possibly even being able to function/work while she is sleeping.

Bel will be asleep at all times and basically be a living prop with a reoccurring joke that she’s basically automated everything in her domain so she can get around, work, and even communicate without having to wake up and actually do anything herself.

Bel is a NEET/stoner that stays cooped up in her room, having delegated all of her duties to others and only getting involved when she absolutely has to. Unlike all of the other Sins, she isn’t propped up as some big celebrity around Hell and she dresses very informally/casually, especially compared to the six.

Bel is just straight up Inside Out 2’s Ennui and just doesn’t give a shit. She’s completely uninvolved in pretty much every aspect of Hell’s political landscape and the Sloth ring’s inhabitants have basically made a ramshackle democratic government since she can’t be bothered to lead it.

Bel is just a straight up mad scientist that not only tests her drugs on her subjects, but uses specially made drugs to keep them placid and under her thumb.

I know this is pretty messy and more importantly not Mammon related, but I’ve had these rattling in my head for a while and wanted to them.

Oh, NOW we're taking!

I have some T H O U G H T S on Bel, I've pondered her quite a bit. While I can't explain it fully, Sloth gives me a really uneasy feeling and, in my experience, most powerful entity ensembles usually involves at least one designated creepy member. I think the creepy Sin will either be Levi or Bel.

Now, I will admit there's a chance Levi is the creepy one and what I'm about to say is totally off base, but I would like to share some of my Levi ideas soon, too.

So, my Bel idea is one of those neigh-emotionless "for science/knowledge/progress!" mad scientists, with the twist of being very lax. The reason most Sloth natives are deformed in some way is due to her using her subjects as guinea pigs.

She also has a thing about how efficient things are, like, she has a text to speech keyboard on her hover chair because she deems it more efficient than actually talking.

I also have a HC for Sloth's general past. Bel and Baphomet are a couple who rule Sloth together, or rather, Baphomet does the ruling while Bel is hold up in her lab. Baphomet's creations are the candleheads, while Bel's are the plague doctors from Western Energy, and almost exclusively live in Sloth, mostly working as Bel's personal lab workers. Sloth used to be a vacation destination first and foremost, until the quack wellness market started and Baphomet convinced Bel to rebrand their ring.

Because of this, Baphomet has a typical caricature tourist look, while Bel wears a fancier plague doctor suit which gives her a humanoid outline, despite the fact she's actually badly mutated under her suit.

Hope you like these ideas, they've been brewing in my brain for a while. Also, small thing but I'm that kind of guy, it's actually "Beplhegor", with 2 "e"s.

Just realized his tag says storybored instead of storyboard

Damn, that's clever.

A drawing of Rick Hedony posted alongside a form where Sr Pelo was taking storyboard artist applications for Spooky Month 6

one of them was a league character :)

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