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I'm bored so I'm gonna post my predictions for the rest of HB season 2

Episode 7: Similar structure to The Circus, one flashback with Blitz and Fizz at Mammon's concert, the second with Fizz working for Mammon and being miserable behind the scenes (maybe how he started working for Mammon in the first place), and lastly a scene/sequence at the end with Mammon in the present establishing him as a looming threat. Mammon will probably consider going after IMP due to another villain, probably either Crimson or Stella and Andre.

Episode 8: Stolas gives Blitz the asmodean crystals shortly before the gang get a new client and the episode follows them using the crystals for the first time while Blitz feels increasingly guilty. I get the feeling someone familiar might show up, like Barbie, the cherubs or the agents.

Episode 9: Blitz trying to fix things with Barbie and/or Verosika, probably the latter. I'm not sure what else we might see for the actual plot, but if we do see Verosika we'll also be getting more Tex content.

Episode 10: A weird, world-building episode in the vain of C.H.E.R.U.B, based on an old idea I had before the series properly started, a client jumps through a portal and assumes a ghostly form in the human world, with I.M.P. having to hunt them down. I really hope I'm right with this one

Episode 11: The most mysterious episode, there's a good chance this will be some completely new thing (or at least something following from something we haven't seen yet). If it is something already established then my money's one either the D.H.O.R.K.S or Stella and Andre, some people seem to think this will be another Crim episode, which is possible. A friend (who doesn't have a tumblr) suggested that this episode might introduce Belphegor, since she's implied to be a mad scientist, tough I find that highly unlikely I still thought it was worth noting.

Episode 12: Some big Stolas stuff, maybe the first time Stella and Andre personally try to carry out some scheme. Probably won't have anything to do with the plot, but we might learn about the Hellavrse's version of Krampus.

And that's all I've got, kind of hard to believe that by the time all these are put to the test we'll officially be half-way through the show. Feel free to discuss and suggest alternate ideas.

Love this on so many levels.

who wants to go here with me?

I'm sorry, but I must argue against this.

I think Mammon will be more of a lynchpin, one entity acting as a manifestation of the villains behind the show's current conflicts .

Given that he was likely involved in splitting Blitz and Fizz apart, along with Cash, him ruling over the only ring we've seen Crimson in, and being high enough in rank that he may occasionally cross paths with Stella and Andre. Mammon has all the connections to narratively tie these threats together in a logical way.

He's the perfect sin to embody I.M.P's main narrative opposition, up to this point in the show. He would still be a great thematic villain without even having to target the main cast directly at any point. After all, isn't callously acting in a way that will hurt others for personal gain the most basic form of greed?

After my last post on the topic, I’ve found myself thinking more on the theories that Mammon is going to be some kind of villain or otherwise antagonistic presences for Fizz and possibly Blitzo. And I’ve realized why I feel that idea just doesn’t seem to fit.

See, let’s look back on the proper recurring villains that we’ve been introduced to: Striker, Crimson and Stella.* A common thread among all of these is that they are actually at about the same level of power/authority/prominence as the member of our main characters they serve as a villain to.

Striker and Crimson are imps just like Blitzo and Moxxie respectively, while Stella (and Andrealphus) are fellow Goetia nobility just like Stolas.

For all that people both in and out of universe have talked up the ‘power imbalance’ in Hell, it seems that the main villain or antagonist that each of our main characters must grapple with is NOT someone of much greater power or authority, but rather someone much more on their level. Again, Striker to Blitzo (plus Moxxie and Millie), Crimson to Moxxie (plus Millie and Blitzo) and Stella to Stolas.

By the way, I think if we want to theorize on a potential ‘Main/True’, ‘Big Bad’ villain for the story and Blitzo’s personal arc (aside from himself, obviously), I think we can ALL agree that the best candidate is his father, Cash.

Which is why Mammon feels rather out of place as some prominent villain or antagonist for our main cast. Sure, he probably has some personal connection to Fizzerolli, but he’s still one of THE top dogs of Hell. Going by the trend we’ve seen thus far, the only character Mammon could possibly serve as an antagonist for is Asmodeaus (a fellow Sin), but frankly I would NOT call Ozzie that prominent of a character in this show that he gets some personal antagonist.

Helluva Boss feels like a story where the main villains faced by our protagonists are NOT these big, powerful beings far above them in power, status and authority. But rather people far closer to them. People who come from very similar walks of life, or even outright family.

And Mammon really is the former of these far more than he is the latter.

*As an aside, I’m not counting Fizzerolli, Verosika or Barbie Wire in this group, as while they may have acted in an antagonistic fashion, it’s clear that they were harmed MUCH more by Blitzo than they may have harmed him. Hence they more represent Blitzo’s own personal issues that he needs to deal with.

Sinsmas prediction (I'm really hoping this one is right!)

Something I've seen a lot of people talk about is that fact that Blitz fixing his relationship with Fizz and Stolas now being able to give Blitz a crystal means that they'll have less reasons to see each other and thus have a harder time working through the issues between them.

But I think this chain of accidental self sabotage will carry over to Stolas, I think The Full Moon, Apology Tour and possibly Mastermind might help rebuild the trust between Blitz and Stolas, but at an unseen cost.

And now we finally come to the actual season finale prediction I promised. I believe Sinsmas will show Stolas planning to spend the (un)holiday with Via only for her to not show up and him thinking Stella and Andrealphus are behind it. The twist being is that she herself chose not to spend time with him since he basically focused his entire life for a while around his boy toy and virtually abandoned her. The ending will leave Stolas to wallow in the consequences of his shortsighted actions as Octavia spends Sinsmas with her mother and uncle. This will set her up as a central character in season 3.

Helluva Boss animatic ideas I'm shocked I haven't seen done yet.

Just some idea I'd like to see someone do

Stella and Andre with audio of the Fischoeder brothers from Bob's Burgers, they basically have the same dynamic with Andre as Calvin and Stella as Felix

Chaz with literally any seen of Aladdin from Twisted, again, they're practically the same character

The dinner with Pop scene from season 2 of The League of Gentlemen with Crimson, Moxxie and Millie

This one will almost definitely happen after the next episode but here it is anyway, Mammon as Big Jack Horner

HOLY FUCK!!! I never thought about how awful that would be for her. Poor Stella... :(

I think the root of Stella's more toxic behaviors is that, with the possible exceptions of Andre and Octavia, literally no one has ever valued Stella as an actual person. I'm pretty sure if Octavia ever hugged her and told her she loved her, Stella would just started bawling.

And if Stella really was a fussy kid, it's possible she's so bratty because her parents were so emotionally detached and neglectful that they just gave her whatever she wanted to avoid provoking her temper instead of teaching her to manage it and channel it into something positive.

Fuck it imma be the one to say it Vivi you can use as many excuses as you want try and justify it as much as you like but it wont change the fact Stolas still cheated !!!

I swear Vivienne, pull this stunt and I will personally tear your entire ass off and force it down your throat!

🚨 triggering - family abuse 🚨

Thinking about how…Andrealphus is creepy on his own sister…Andrealphus wants Stolas’ possesions, he is unmarried…Via is the heir to Stolas…she turns 18 in a year…he said he is biding his time

I’m scared dad

I imagine Moxxie being the first to point it out and Blitz tells him off but later tells Stolas that Mox is right and they need a proper gig soon but Stolas just gives him a bunch of money and gaslights him about it.

Also, you know that I wrote this right before going to sleep when I forgot that the word "fulfillment" exists. The fuck is wrong with me?

Now Some More Stuff!!!

Every time Octavia tries to talk to Stolas he interrupts her before she can finish a sentence and reacts to what he assumes she was going to say, which is, of course, something that assumes she agrees with his self-pitying view of his life.

An inverse of the ending of Seeing Stars, as in, Loona's occasional aggression towards the rest of the team is resolved (at least partly) through her interaction both with Blitz and with Via.

I'm still working out the Harvest Moon Festival/Pain Games equivalent, but the idea is that Striker participates to act as a diversion for IMP and potentially someone else who could be after Stella and Octavia, speaking of them, they could be disguised as imps in this segment. Maybe Blitz and Moxxie compete together since Striker taunted them both (I like the idea that it takes Striker some time to respect either of them, making him slightly more dynamic and helping with Moxxie's arc and his dynamic with Blitz)

To clarify the last one, the mid segment of the show would have Blitz slowly realizing he's being exploited while he and the team search for the mother daughter duo since Stolas passive-aggressively threatened and/or guilt-tripped Blitz into feeling he has to find them.

Also, to give Mills some actual characterization and more chemistry with Moxxie, she has MAD shop skills, customizing IMP's weapons and later her family tell her she can't be in the Pain Games... Because she' been chosen as the lead organizer, which in Wrath's super rugged nature, means she literally constructs all the event courses herself.

More Song Ideas!

A comedy ensemble number with all of IMP in act 1 with them doing a regular hit.

Another comedic song with Blitz, Moxxie and Striker in the pain games, maybe Millie's family joins in during the chorus. While still comedic, this one would mainly develop Moxxie and to lesser extent, the other guys.

Of course, Stolas has a proper villain song (one that starts with him pouting that Via is mad that he forgot something she was excited for, Azatoth's Tears or otherwise). The song itself would have Stolas lament relatively small things in his life while saying that "Blitzy" makes him forget them, tacitly admitting that he views Octavia as a problem, and how he's happy that Blitz is his and his alone, and that that's perfectly just since it makes up for his own personal suffering.

Both a song and a joke, Moxxie tries to sing to Millie multiple times and gets interrupted each time. However, he only starts the song once, every other time he sings it it's actually the next verse, a non-live viewer could piece it together and the song could be a bonus on the soundtrack.

Rest assured, there will be more to come.

More ideas for "Helluva A Rewritten Musical":

Jokes, Running Gags and Story Moments With A Comedic Twist :

After the Ozzie's equivalent Stolas' actor would wear a different wig after every two scenes, with each having more grey feathers than the last, until, by his final scene, all his hair/feathers are grey

The first time we see the M&Ms is their morning routine, Millie enters the scene first, with curlers/rollers in her hair, then Moxxie enter with curlers/rollers in his hair AND in his sideburns.

Wally appears a few times, he's exactly the same as in the show but has a much deeper voice to contrast with the high-pitched, scratchy voice Don Darryl Rivera does in the actual series

We only see Andre once, during a half and half split of the stage to show his phone conversation with Stella, later, in hiding (Yes, I'm going with that idea for the time being), Via asks why they could ask him for help and Stella reveals he got in hot water for drunkenly hitting on one of his cousins.

If we go down the Strella route, we could have some early bonding when Striker hisses at a minor frustration and Stella very obviously finds it attractive, because both snakes and swans hiss as a defense mechanism. In response to this Octavia let's out a sharp exhale that ends up sounding like a hoot.

A member of IMP pointing out how little actual hits they've been carrying out since getting pulled into the divorce drama, poking fun at the show abandoning it's original premise, maybe build on it by having Stolas be the only character who doesn't seen an issue with that.

Song Ideas (The Good Stuff):

An opening number or at least early song where Blitz sings about how, by running his own business, he has freedom to make good life for himself. The song would immediately be followed by some form of bad news.

A flashback duet between young Stolas and Stella, meeting for the first time, promising to make their situation work. Stella's lyrics make it clear she hopes that she will find some form of personal fufilled-ness in the relationship, while Stolas' make it clear that he plans on taking every chance to distract himself from what will be his family.

Striker having a song where he tries to console Via, because he can tell that she is in no way personally responsible for the shit she's going through, big stepdad energy, slightly more comedic elements towards the end of the song. This would play into Striker's arc, realizing that not all royals ae truly malicious and finding sympathy for them because he comes to view them as too sheltered for their own good.

A climactic duet between Striker and Blitz, after Blitz realizes that Stolas is a complete shitsack, during the song they're fighting over a blessed revolver to see who gets to kill the jizz-soaked feather duster.

That's all I got for now, more to come :D

Very beautiful. Your mind. Your vision.

Especially the meta commentary I NEED that scene to happen

I don’t know if it was you or someone else who compared Mammon and his behaviors to Calvin Fischoeder from Bob’s Burgers, but I think about that frequently and can imagine Mammon pulling a number of Mr. Fischoeder’s antics. Since it’s the holiday season, I also feel that the Sins would get together and recreate the plot of the episode Last Gingerbread House on the Left. It could just be me, but I can honestly picture the Sins getting together to celebrate Sinsmas together, only for it to descend into complete chaos over something as trivial as making gingerbread houses.

I think I first compared them in an ask to @pinkandpurple360 , but funnily enough, Mam isn't the first character I've compared to Calvin.

I'm not sure if I just thought about this or actually posted it somewhere, but ever since he was introduced, I've seen Andre as the Calvin to Stella's Felix. There's a good number of Fischoeder brothers moments that work well with them, with just a little tweaking. Some examples:

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Andre (talking to a servant): My father left all this to me, the palace, all these artifacts. I still can't tell if it was a joke.

Stella: *cough* Should've been me.

Andre: Oh, THAT would've been fun!

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(during the gingerbread house scene)

Andre: Well, if everyone else is doing it. *pulls out blessed handgun*

Stella: *also pulls out a blessed gun*

Andre: Don't you pull a gun, Stella. We're having a moment here.

Stella: You think you're so great, Andy, just because mother laid you before me!

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Trying to make Akinator guess Stella's friends

attempt 1:

A valiant effort.

attempt 2:

Again, not quite.

attempt 3:

Sudden detour, also, can anyone tell me where this art is from?

Apparently, he gave up.

Helluva Boss but it's actually Jontron moments

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Stella: *playing with dolls* "Hey, Alejandro, I was thinking about, you know, maybe taking a year off, going back to college, starting my career." "Nonsense, Monica! You're staying home and having my kids!"

Andrealphus: Stella, What are you playing?

Stella: Systemic oppression :)

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Wally: *selling a carpet that a guy was stitched into* Yes, okay, he had a bit of an accident, but, I say, it's one of a kind! I'll give you a good price!

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Mammon: *on the phone* Oh, okay. So I guess what you're telling me is that I should NOT make a game about the Titanic sinking!

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Mammon: Hey, you know what, I think you're right. On second thought, I don't think it's gonna work... But I got one for you better! Schindler's List: HD Remix!

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Moxxie: You can count me in.

Blitz: Okay, one.

Moxxie: What even?

Blitz: I counted you in :)

Moxxie: Go to fucking Heaven.

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Stolas:*picks up a packet of sunflower seeds* Via, what is this? Where did you learn to do this? have you been doing SEED?!?

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I request more golden goose, thank you kindly

I've actually been meaning to get some more Golden Goose stuff out, but was fighting myself over whether to post something on it's own or officially start my GoldenGooseVerse.

So here's some stuff I can share without spoiling anything:

Stella frequently tries new hobbies and takes a particular liking to sculpting. Her first attempts were supposed to be small vases that she wanted to gift to people close to her. Even though they turned out somewhat lopsided, Mammon, Via, Andre, Camio and Furfur all kept them and use them as pen holders.

Via and Mammon's main form of bonding is playing guitar together. They workshop songs, talk about (and often bash) new songs they've heard recently, and just chat about their day, their interests and life in general. When they first started doing this, Octavia would sometimes have moments of "Wait, is this real life, right now?", because she wasn't used to having this form of positive experience with a paternal figure.

Before Mam and Stella officially started their relationship, Stella would often talk to her friends about her recent bonding with Mammon. Whilst Furfur was completely on board, Camio was slightly apprehensive about the whole situation, she wanted to be sure Stella's past traumas weren't making her see Mam through rose-tinted glasses. Because of this, she once asked Stella to invite Mammon to one of the friend group's meetings, Mam agreed and shortly afterwards befriended Camio and Furfur, as well.

Mammon takes more of an interest in improving Greed's Goetic social circles for 2 main reasons: 1) He wants to create an environment that would make it easier for Octavia to socialize with her peers and 2) He wants to give Stella some autonomy as a ruler and involves her in these reforms to ease her into it before officially making her the ultimate authority on any Goetic matter in the Greed ring, as well as it's Goetic representative.

There more on the way, it'll be more complex and take some time, but I promise it'll be good.

I’ve been thinking about your response to my previous ask and how you’ve said in the past Stella being with Mammon would encourage her to get out of her comfort zone. So, I’ve been mulling over an angsty Golden Goose scenario:

Basically, after having a number of dates, Mammon realizes he’s been taking the lead and deciding what they do on all of them, so he asks Stella what she wants to do or if there is any hobby she wants to indulge… and she doesn’t have an answer. She wracks her brain and… nothing. It’s only now that she realizes that she doesn’t have any interests or hobbies of her own, and outside of Camio and Furfur (hope it’s okay I’m drawing inspiration from your own headcanon) she doesn’t have much in the way of true friends. Between her strict upbringing, arranged marriage, dealing with Stolas’ crap, trying her best to parent Octavia, and doing everything in her power to get out of her marriage + get back at Stolas while she’s at it, she hasn’t really been able to explore any interests outside of passing flights of fancy. This realization leaves Stella despondent and inconsolable, with it taking a lot of effort on the part of Octavia, Mammon, Camio, and Furfur to try and get her out of the resulting funk. She ultimately comes out of it for the better and starts exploring different ventures that catches her eye, but that realization still sometimes eats away at the back of her mind.

Im not used to writing angst, so here’s a more comedic idea I’ve had since I started shipping Golden Goose:

The second Andrealphus realizes his sister is dating possibly the most wealthy demon in the entire 7 Rings, he immediately gets to work trying to get in Mammon’s good graces and sucks up to him on every occasion. Mammon is aware of Andy’s… questionable behavior and the only reason he hasn’t turned the icy peacock into a Slurpee is because of reasons similar to why he hasn’t personally dealt with Stolas. Instead, Mam has settled on stringing Andrealphus along and finding subtle ways to humiliate him in a similar manner to how Kevin treated the bellhop in Home Alone 2.

Apologies if this is a garbled mess, but I’ve been on a Golden Goose kick and felt like sharing.

I could actually empathies with Stella's issue in the first idea, the feeling of directionlessness has crept up on me a few times, that sense of dread as your own values start devaluing every moment. There's a lot of potential to explore with this concept, I've even toyed with some similar ideas in the past.

Also, don't sweat it, I would KILL to have my ideas for Camio and Furfur become common fanon.

I love the idea of Andre trying to parasitize off of Stella's relationship with Mammon. It also works well for Mam's characterization, as I can confidently say that whenever they met, he would casually insult Andre while delivering it like a joke in his typical, bantering way of talking, so Andre doesn't even realize he's being insulted. Not that he'd let if show if he did realize, he to stay in Mam's 'good' graces.

Sorry for taking a while to get around to this, but I really wanted to think about your ideas and add some of my own!

First off, I adore Merch and would happily draw so much art of him if I could replicate the style to my satisfaction.

So let's start;

I think Merch would have a pattern similar to the darker pattern in Stella's hair, which could be in his electric hair/mane, also, building of my idea for Mammon having gold claws on his hands and needle-like feet, I think Merch's would be more akin to crystals. Also, I love the general idea of him being a peacock spider, specifically.

Thinking about it, Merch would probably be great at making (and, should the need arise, manipulating) friends, given that both of his parents are extremely extroverted people.

Also, he would have both electric and crystal powers, so he could really make a mess when he feels like it.

I feel Merch would very much be the type of kid to remind a teacher there was homework, he just loves being active, just like his dad.

For his older self, the idea of Merch becoming an imagineer is amazing, but I just want to add the concept of him wearing suits that evoke both glittery 60s and 70s stand up comedians and something to do with electricity, like a simplified circuit pattern.

I'd love to explore the dynamic between Octavia and a slightly older Merch, especially as he would quickly outgrow her. I could imagine they playfully mess with each other quite often. I could see Merch gently resting his arm on Via's head, sarcastically asking where his big sister could be.

You mentioning Charlie made me realize that if Merch eventually found out what the original hotel looked like, he would never let Charlie hear the end of it.

Leviathan would also do everything he could think of in an attempt to be Merch's favorite uncle.

I can't help but think Merch would have a slight soft spot for Andrea, since he might notice how much the time they spend together means to his uncle.

Merch would also take every chance to slip Fizz's hat off in front of others, because he knows how uncomfortable it makes him.

Yeah, I don't think anyone but Stella and Mammon could properly manage the chaos of baby Merch.

When it comes to Stolas, I think Merch would absolutely arrange for some elaborate event as a big front for setting up a humiliating experience for Stolas. Naturally playing dumb about both the prank and the fact he knows what Stolas did the whole time.

So, this brings me to a big idea I haven't mentioned anywhere, I like to think that Mam's palace is on an island just off the coast of Greed's mainland, a part of the island which was previously empty is converted into a bit of an arcade type spot, for Via and Merch to entertain friends at.

Mammon would also make sure Merch knew how to defend himself without using his powers, in case he had to do it in a hidden form, without drawing attention.

In addition to the cent thing, instead of the playing card diamonds, I think Merch would be associated with the more typical 5 pointed from the side view, flat topped diamonds.

Personally, I think Merch would be slightly taller than Stella and Octavia, but still notably shorter than Mammon, mostly as most spiders are a good bit bigger than peacock spiders.

I can't even express how much I LOVE the idea of Merch having a shilling tick, I don't think Octavia would really mind, at this point she'd have long since embraced the "corporate shame" she used to be annoyed by, she can, for lack of a better term, see the appeal.

Merch would also follow his family's tendency towards music, his first instrument would be bongos, again, because peacock spider.

I think Octavia would actually get really invested of taking care of little Merch, because it wasn't until she learned about the egg that she realized she had an internalized wish to have a sibling.

A Golden Goose Idea

After putting some thought into it, I’ve decided to hop back online for a moment and share some ideas I’ve had for a Mammon X Stella fan kid. I probably won’t do much of anything with with the character, but I felt like sharing my vision of a gremlin child for this glorious ship, while also borrowing from some of the ideas posited by @prof-ramses.

Ideas Under The Cut:

While Stella had experience from when Octavia was still an egg and was for the most part pretty reserved during the incubation period, Mammon’s nerves were shot and his dread over something going wrong before the egg hatched led him to act (more) aggressive and impulsive towards those outside his family. During the months leading up to the hatching day, Greed as a whole was walking on pins and needles for fear of provoking its ruler’s fury.

When the day finally came, Mammon and Stella welcomed a bouncing baby boy into the world and in that moment both felt like they were at the top of Hell.

They named him Merch.

Physically, Merch takes heavily after his father (same general build and four arms, but his head is more blocky and he has four visible eyes), with some attributes from his uncle Andy (he has some sparse crystalline/icy feathers). Overall, he draws a lot of inspiration from a Peacock Spider (Arachnophobia Warning).

Personality wise, Merch has the innocent, but chaotic energy of Spooky Month’s Skid and Pump mixed with the scheming and quick thinking of Louise Belcher. Merch is also possessing of a boundless sense of curiosity and a complete lack of understanding of boundaries or warnings, often resulting in him leaving chaos in his wake when left unattended.

Has a really close relationship with both of his parents, often helping his mom with her art projects and being overjoyed whenever his dad takes him to any of his various businesses (especially Loo Loo Land).

I like to think Merch eventually grows up to be an architect/engineer/imagineer that specializes in making fair rides and amusement parks as a tribute to both of his parents’ interests.

His relationship with Octavia is a bit distant given the significant gap in their ages, but the two get along pretty well and often turn to one another as someone they can vent to.

When it comes to his extended family, the Sins are (for the most part) overjoyed to have another little one running around they can dote on and guide towards eventually becoming a new superpower in Hell and Charlie just lights up whenever she sees him and he’s always excited to hangout with his cousin.

As for uncle Andrealphus, Merch follows in his dad’s footsteps in stringing him along and subtly insulting him to his face. Mam has definitely taught him to do the same to Ozzie and Fizz under the guise of it being a game.

While Camio and Furfur are overjoyed that Stella and Mam have another kid and they do genuinely care for Merch, after their first (and last) time babysitting him, they prefer to be around him with his parents or sister also being present.

The only person Merch legitimately dislikes is Stolas because, even if Merch doesn’t know all of the details, he knows that Stolas hurt his mom and sister. Stolas is probably the only person Merch actively schemes against in the hopes of making his life more difficult.

While Stella and Mammon are pretty involved and present parents, Merch is pretty much free to wander and explore Greed unattended, the same applying to Octavia, with no fear of either of them being in any real danger. Everyone in the ring knows better than to mess with them because, unlike Ozzie, Mammon would be far more active in ensuring either of his kids’ safety, even if it means cutting a bloody swath through his own territory.

In terms of voice, I can only really picture him as sounding like Pump.

I really like the idea of Merch wearing clothes emblazoned with a cent sign as a nod to Mammon’s design incorporating dollar signs.

I also like the idea of Merch just generally being larger than the rest of his family as an adult, while keeping most of his easy going and cheerfully chaotic personality despite maturing.

Merch has a tendency to say corporate buzzwords and shill Mammon brand products. He doesn’t really understanding what he’s talking about, he just wants to imitate his dad. Mammon and Stella find this habit adorable, while Octavia is left more than a little exasperated by it all.

Merch is every bit as touchy-feely and has the same personal space invading tendencies as his father.

I’ve been in creative dry spell when it comes to Golden Goose and starving to see more of it, so I was wondering if you had any new ideas regarding the pairing. I really hope I don’t sound demanding in this ask, I just thought I’d see if you had any ideas you felt like sharing.

So, with all the stuff we've been taking about recently and that recent community post, I think I finally have enough to say to actually answer this.

Not all of this will be strictly Golden Goose, but most of it will be.

Early into his friendship with Stella, when Mammon first started having deeper feelings for her, he was extremely anxious because he wasn't sure if how deep they were, whether they were just a brief sensation or something more. What helped him embrace these feelings is spending more time around Stella, but also those around her, Camio, Furfur and Octavia especially.

Meanwhile, Stella is also hesitant because she knows that rebounds are a thing and Andre's drilling into her that she has no real experience with forming a romantic relationship.

They're both cutely awkward in this phase and I think there's a lot of potential for some lighter minor conflicts here, including Octavia's fear of clowns.

I think that once they were all in the Greed ring, Via started being a bit more outgoing at social events and actually started making some friends, despite what you might expect, Mam wasn't overprotective of her at this time, mainly because by then he knew her well enough to know she could handle herself. Despite this, Stella often stresses to her that she can openly tell them about any problems and Via takes it as a forgone conclusion that her mother knows how to pick up some subtle things she herself might miss.

Another idea I've been pondering is something happening to Fizz and Mammon dropping his teasing to support Ozzie, and Ozzie himself is taken aback by it. But despite the open dislike that Ozzie has for him, Mam still sees him as his little brother and knows when Asmodeus needs him.