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So I saw a post about younglings and padawans pranking each other (and sometimes the masters) and sewing cat ears on their cloaks and

I did sketch Elzar, Avar and Stellan because I love those three (also, they lived way before Order 66 so I can spare myself from the trauma of knowing that they were cute Younglings that later got slaughtered)

It’s cute okay?

The threefirebrands (and guests) - Incorrect Quotes, Part 1

Stellan: I have an amazing memory! Name one time I forgot something.

Avar: You left me and Elzar in the parking lot of a supermarket like, three weeks ago

Stellan: I did that on purpose, try again

Elzar: Do you think I could fit 15 Marshmallows in my mouth

Stellan: You're a hazard to society

Avar: And a coward. Do 20.

Cop: You’re receiving a ticket for being two people on a speeder made for one

Stellan: shit

Avar: wait, two

Cop: yes?

Avar: OH MY GOD STELLAN ELZAR FELL OFF

Vernestra: What do you think will Avar and Elzar do for the distraction

Stellan: Idk, they’ll probably do something small, like throw a rock. That’s what I would do.

[Building explodes and several alarms go off]

Stellan: Or they could do that, I should have known better

Avar: If I run and jump at Stellan, he will most certainly catch me

Avar, Running towards Stellan: INCOMING

Stellan: NO I‘M HOLDING TEA-

Stellan: *drops tea to catch Avar* why

The three firebrands (and guests)- Incorrect Quotes Part 2

Elzar: What happens if I press gas and brake at the same time

Avar: The car takes a screenshot

Stellan: For the Last Time, please get out

Avar: How Long are we gonna stand here and let him do that?

Stellan: Just give him a minute

Elzar: [Pushing a door that clearly says pull]

Elzar: What are you doing?

Avar: Helping Stellan find his box of cornflakes that I ate an hour ago

Avar & Elzar: [do something stupid]

Stellan: absolute fucking idiots

Stellan: I can’t believe I would die for them

Stellan: Did you guys bought the eggs I asked for, I want to make Vernestra a birthday cake

Elzar: Even better!

Stellan: …what did you do

Avar, holding a chick: Here :)

Elzar: We named her Kyle!

Stellan: There is only one thing worse than losing

Stellan: [rips of paper to make it say losing Avar & Elzar] BOOM!

Avar, with tears in her eyes: us?

Stellan: nO-

Elzar: [telling Stellan Avar is dead over a comlink]

Avar: Is he crying? Is he crying?

Elzar: Uhm, a Little bit

Avar, grabbing the comlink from Elzar: You should be WAILING you stone cold bitch

Avar: [slams the comlink]

Avar: Now call Kantam

The three firebrands (and guests)- Incorrect Quotes Part 3

(Sidenote: I will reduce the numbers of quotes in one post a bit so I can post one every day without running out of them)

Elzar, holding a pot of coffee and a cereal box: What if instead of milk, I put coffee in my cereal

Stellan, walking past him and taking away his coffee: What if you don’t

Avar: Shut up!

Elzar: I weren’t even saying anything

Avar: You were thinking, that’s annoying

Stellan: You shouldn’t be using a straw

Elzar: I know it’s bad for the environment or something

Stellan: It is also a weird way to eat spaghetti

Avar & Elzar to Vernestra: our biggest talent is being stress

Vernestra: don't you mean stressed?

Avar & Elzar: no

Stellan: no.

Stellan: [nudging Avar & Elzar] why are you two always falling asleep on me? Am I that boring?

Avar: [half asleep] you make us feel safe

Stellan: [tearing up] oh

Love the idea of collective Jedi parenting. Like technically I only have one padawan but my friends' padawans are also coincidentally my padawans. My padawan’s friends are also my padawans. This padawan who got separated from their master? My padawan today. This other padawan who needs to learn to pilot but their master is afraid of flying? Now my padawan twice a week.

When people say the jedi order is more corrupt than the sith it really annoys me like- the people who leave emotional judgement out of situations where other people are at risk and to remain impartial are WORSE than those who often kill and manipulate for their own gain??? “Oh but theyre brainwashing people not to feel emotion” NO

they are not forcing people to remain a jedi! You can very easily leave the order, being a jedi is a j o b- and therefore oaths must-be taken to ensure safety of themselves and others. Much like that of a doctor taking oaths to do no harm and to remove themselves from situations they have an emotional hand in.

sorry for the rant!! also please dont argue in comments etc- its just my opinion :)

Broke: Individual Jedi were good people with good intentions, but the Jedi Order as an institution was flawed and needed to be reformed.

Woke: The Jedi Order as an institution is completely correct in all of its teachings about everything and following the Jedi's teachings about selflessness and compassion are what allow people of the galaxy to achieve balance and peace, but these teachings are an ideal to live up to and they assert that everyone has the capacity for darkness within them anyway, so sometimes individual Jedi will make mistakes or struggle with fear and pain and selfishness as they strive towards being their best selves the way their culture trains them to do.

Mandalorians hate Jedi because...

"the Jedi are child stealers" NO

And again I say NO. I saw someone claim this and it absolutely infuriated me.

First point, THE JEDI ARE NOT CHILD STEALERS. That accusation is sithspit anti jedi propaganda. If a parent or guardian told the Jedi no, they didn't want their kid to be a Jedi, the Jedi respected that. They would, however, remove children from danger. But would you call a social worker who took children from environments where they were being molested, starved, beaten, or worse, a child stealer? No? Then don't call the Jedi child stealers for the same actions.

Second point, the average Mandalorian didn't really know or care too much about Jedi. In all honestly, most Mandalorians, like the rest of the galaxy, had no real idea about the difference between Jedi or other force sects like the nightsisters or general darksiders or even the sith except perhaps the color of their lightsabers. Some Mandalorians, like our beloved Din Djarin, knew nothing at all about Jedi and only cared when in became relevant and then did as much research as possible regarding the Jedi. Others, like Jango Fett, had very personal interactions with Jedi and formed their opinions of the Jedi as a whole based on those interactions with no further reason or desire to look further into the Jedi.

Third point, for Mandalorians who studied history or listened to old stories, they knew why the Mandalorians disliked the Jedi and it was for a very simple reason that they liked to avoid actively admitting. That reason? The Jedi kicked the shebs of the Mandalorian armies.

Twice.

Quite possibly there was another point when the Jedi suppressed the Mandalorian empire but there were two times for certain. Granted, the republic played a large part and the Jedi definitely didn't all interfere in one of those two conflicts, and actually actively avoided one of those two conflicts except in a few cases, and there were definitely some terrible things done, but the fact remains that when the Mandalorian empire attempted to expand and basically take over the galaxy, the Jedi were key to stopping this. And no, the Mandalorian empire was not a good thing. But more importantly, if you thought your ancestors or your cultures' armies were in the right and they were beaten, would you like the descendants of those who beat your side?

Fourth point, would you like the side that beat your side if they refused to give you a proper rematch? The Mandalorians who know anything about Jedi know that Jedi have access to all this power, plus generally have a super cool plasma sword, but the Jedi won't fight or they'll de-escalate or generally indulge in pacifistic behavior and we all know how Mandalorians feel about presumed pacifists, right? A Mandalorian denied a fight is often a frustrated Mandalorian. A Mandalorian who sees someone who has all this strength and power often doesn't understand why that person doesn't use that power, doesn't take revenge or slaughter their enemies or a million other things that they would do with such power. So those that don't understand choose to dislike. Why won't the Jedi fight them?! (please imagine the sentence immediately previous spoken in an extremely whiney tone of voice)

Fifth point, the Mandalorians frequently throughout history worked with the Sith or were on the Sith side of conflicts because of a lack of knowledge about force sects meant the Mandalorians didn't generally realize how absolutely stupid it is to side with the Sith but beyond that the Mandalorians often learned about the Jedi from the Sith. So the Mandalorians got stories from the Sith about the Jedi being weak and cold and blah, blah, blah stupid sith propaganda that I don't want to perpetuate. And those Mandalorians would then think themselves Jedi experts, because hadn't they learned about the Jedi from another Jedi? Granted, a dark Jedi but still a Jedi, right? So they'd tell other Mandalorians the propaganda and so the Mandalorians had that Sith skewed idea of the Jedi perpetuated throughout their history.

So the Mandalorians have their own reasons for not like the Jedi, which have NOTHING to do with child stealing, just as the Jedi have plenty of reasons to want to avoid the Mandalorians. Personally though I'm going to blame a lot of those reasons on both sides on the Sith and be grumpy about the Sith and the effectiveness of their propaganda.

And finally, I'm pretty sure at least a tiny bit of the animosity between Mandalorians and Jedi arose from the Mandalorians being jealous that the Jedi had lightsabers and they didn't. To be fair, I'm a little jealous too. Lightsabers are cool.

Star Wars was and has always been meant to be hopepunk and good vs evil at its base, not grimdark and 'morally grey' and 'subversive', and this is a hill i will die on

Jedi and attachment

The Jedi Order was around 25,000 years old when it fell at the end of the Clone Wars.

And I've seen people say "the Jedi don't teach emotional regulation" I guess because there are some Jedi who fell, but like, the number of Jedi who didn't fall far outweighs the number of Jedi who did fall.

And that's not to say that Jedi never made mistakes, but none of them gave into their anger and fear and hatred. Mistakes are normal, even for Jedi. Failure is the greatest teacher. They were apparently able to regulate their emotions well enough to actually learn from their mistakes and grow.

I'm not sure which part of "the life of a Jedi is not easy" isn't exactly translating well for some people.

What do people think Qui-Gon meant when he told Anakin being a Jedi would be challenging?

As Yoda said, it is a lifelong struggle not to allow fear to bend into anger. Fear leads to anger leads to hate leads to suffering. The Jedi never stop learning.

The reason they avoid attachments is because attachments distract them from the bigger picture, from their purpose. They are protectors and defenders of life, and they cannot be picky about who they choose to help, regardless of personal feelings.

As Obi-Wan has said, Jedi do not hold grudges. They cannot. They can be upset, yes, but they are given the tools to handle their emotions and often utilize them.

Anakin damned an entire galaxy when he fell to the dark side. The Jedi are not to blame for Anakin's fall. Anakin made his choice, and while he spent thirteen years being groomed by Palpatine, he made the choice to follow Darth Sidious.

ANAKIN FELL BECAUSE OF THE CHOICES HE MADE.

He is the one who slaughtered Jedi younglings. He's the one who slaughtered the Separatist leaders, and even though they were the enemy, they were defenseless and trapped in a room with the most powerful being in the galaxy after being sent there by Sidious and Grievous.

The reason the Jedi were so hesitant to accept him into the Jedi Order was because of his age. He was attached to his mother and his anger over her death is what caused him to slaughter an entire colony of Tusken Raiders. He didn't do it out of love. He did it out of hatred, and revenge is not the Jedi way.

It is not the fault of the Jedi that Anakin could not properly regulate his own emotions. He lied to the Jedi for three years. He hid his relationship with Padme, so how was Yoda supposed to know how to help him properly when he didn't have the full context? Of course his advice seemed bad because Anakin was not being forthcoming about the nature of his relationship with Padme. Yoda did not have a complete picture of Anakin's anxieties at the time, and while you can teach someone how to do something, you cannot control how they put the teachings into practice. You can only hope and trust that they are doing the right thing.

And the thing is, the Jedi would have helped Anakin and Padme. Yoda and Obi-Wan loved Anakin. We saw several instances of just how much Yoda cared about Anakin, especially so at the end of season six of the Clone Wars.

Anakin betrayed the entire Jedi Order because he allowed his fears to consume him. He participated in the genocide of the order he had been part of for thirteen years just to save the life of ONE PERSON who ended up dying anyway BECAUSE of him.

No one has ever said the Jedi Order is perfect because there is no such thing as perfect, but they were not ever the villains. They were never the bad guys. They were pulled into a war orchestrated by Darth Sidious who weaponized the compassion of the Jedi as a way to destroy the order.

When you look at the handful of Jedi who fell and claim that the Jedi "don't teach emotional regulation" you're just erasing all personal accountability from the fallen Jedi WHO MADE THEIR CHOICES.

There is only ONE Jedi (that I am aware of) who fell to the dark side involuntarily, and that was Ahsoka Tano. She was corrupted against her will and then killed. Anakin was able to resurrect her, and while he did a good thing, it only made his fear of losing her again even worse.

Maul murdered Satine and forced Obi-Wan to watch, but Obi-Wan managed to control his emotions and not go on a killing spree. He actually held a dying Maul in his arms. Ahsoka was failed by the Jedi Order, but she didn't fall to the dark side. Yoda lived for 900 years and never once fell to the dark side.

There are a variety of factors that went into Anakin's fall, but he is the one who made the choice to do the monstrous things he did. He was not being mind controlled. He had Jedi training, but he threw all of that away for one person. He gambled the fate of the galaxy on the belief that Palpatine would help him save Padme from dying, knowing that Palpatine was a Sith Lord and knowing that he was the one who was actually responsible for the war. He made a selfish choice at the expense of everyone else in the galaxy and the only person who won in the end was Darth Sidious. It was the biggest lesson that Anakin ever learned.

This is not a failure of "teaching emotional regulation". This is the failure of someone who allowed his personal feelings to overshadow his Jedi training, and he is responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

End note: This is not an Anakin Skywalker bashing post. I love Anakin Skywalker, but he absolutely is to blame for his fall to the dark side. He's a fascinating character. I could write a whole ass separate post on why I love him so much. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is an icon.

i'm in my quaint little circle on tumblr so i easily forget not everyone loves the jedi order, but once i step out of it--

how can someone watch order 66 being executed and go yep. the jedi deserved this. all this death and genocide is exactly what this group of people had coming.

like that is not at ALL the point of the prequels. the jedi council were not without their faults but let's also face that it was ultimately anakin who made the decision to turn to the dark side and SLAUGHTER them all, even the younglings.

that last part can be debated, because palpatine was definitely manipulating him and it can be argued that because of that he never really got a choice in the matter, but still, to see that people blame the order is aarghghhhguehsnfje

Ngl joining the jedi order sounds like the ideal life to me because just imagine:

1. People regulate thier emotion and communicate to you logically. No need to understand social cues when you're an empath.

2. No pressure to marry, be in a romantic relationship and live in a nuclear household my entire life.

3. I can just?????? Help people?????? Without the extra cost of a system working me to the ground to achieve certain things????

4. No strings attached companionship and friendships? Amazing.

5. A caring and respectful community who council each other and accepts who I am as a person? Count me in.

6. Lightsaber go brrrrrrrrrr

7. Being able to do what I want career wise (Gardening, art, politics, piloting, exploring, childreering, medicine, teaching, etc.) without having to worry about money.

8. Tax fraud

These are the only three flaws I will concede, when it comes to the Jedi during the Prequels.

“They got lax/complacent.”

Yeah*. If you listen to the director’s commentary, George Lucas states the scene in AOTC with Jocasta Nu is there to indicate how unprepared the Jedi were before the Sith’s plan. They thought they were secure and ready but they were not and it turns out humble restaurant owners like Dex know things they don't.

*HOWEVER: Who wouldn’t be complacent, in times of peace?

The Sith were thought to be extinct and Dooku was once a Jedi, a revered one at that. Nobody could have suspected he’d betray the Order that raised him and loved him.

Nobody could've suspected that he'd abuse of their trust and delete a system from the Archives using the credentials of his best friend who he'd had assassinated. That's a verrrry specific scenario, and expecting them to be prepared for that is unreasonable.

"They should've sensed something!" Well, by this point in time, everything surrounding the Jedi was tainted by the Dark Side, which clouded everything. So on the one hand, this situation granted Sidious the gift of foresight and allowed them to always be one step ahead, and on the other, it caused the Jedi to be stuck trekking ahead in a fog, unsure of what the next move would be.

“They were politically-inept.”

Yes**. That’s how the Sith ran circles around the Jedi. They figured “there’s only two of us, if we march into the Temple we’ll get slaughtered, but wait, the Jedi serve the Senate and the Senate is run by politicians… what if we become the politicians? Then we can destroy the Jedi and the principles from the inside!”

**HOWEVER: The Jedi were politically-inept by choice.

After all, their function isn’t setting policy but carrying it out. They’re not politicians, they’re diplomats and as such they're not allowed to get involved in the political process.

But if they were... they still wouldn't. Because power corrupts, and if you let the space monks (who already have magical powers) have political power too, then that will lead to a very dark place.

The Jedi knew that if they tried to play politics, they’ll lose because they have neither the ruthlessness nor the status to do it well, so they make it a point of never going anywhere near it.

Unfortunately, that leaves them open to situations where the Senate or Palpatine corner them into doing something they really don’t wanna do.

It's how they were forced to expel Ahsoka, how they lost the favor of the citizens and it's how Dooku, then the Emperor, framed them as power-hungry sorcerers with his propaganda.

“The war made them hypocrites.”

Sure***. The Jedi were meant to be diplomats, not soldiers. By waging war instead of keeping the peace, they’ve compromised on their values.

***HOWEVER: The Jedi know this and they’re not happy about it at all.

Firstly, because they were forced into this situation by the Senate and Palpatine, who drafted them into service.

Secondly, because they know they’re essentially moving ahead blindly and playing right into the Sith Lord’s hand by fighting this war he orchestrated.

But finally, it’s that they know that not joining would’ve been worse. Sticking by their principles would’ve resulted in the enslavement and genocide of many populations. Sometimes, the spirit of the rules must be prioritized over the letter. Either do nothing and be true to your principles, or go against them but save lives.

It’s a bad choice to make, but not as bad as not making one.

It's a bad choice, but it's motivated by a desire to do some good and it did. They saved countless lives (sometimes at the cost of their own) and inspired countless more to form the Rebellion, later on.

So... three flaws.

But they all come with asterisks. There’s a reasonable (sometimes, even admirable) justification for each of them.

I’m pointing these out because a lot of people seem to conflate “the Jedi were flawed” with “the Jedi were at fault” when talking about their own demise. And the answer to that is:

No.

The Jedi were not at fault. Everybody else was.

The Senate was at fault for growing corrupt and self-serving.

Big Corp for their never ending greed.

The Separatists for being so blind and naive as to think Big Corp would tooootally value their principles and absolutely not commit war crimes every chance they get.

The Sith for being the mass-murdering egotistical assholes who started this whole mess.

And the citizens of the galaxy for not taking up arms in the face of blatant injustice.

Sometimes bad people win.

That doesn't always mean the good guys are at fault. Sometimes, the bad guys are just… better at the game. Mostly because they see it as a game, and the good guys don't.

Luckily, 20 years later, most of the above faults were rectified by the Rebellion, which was led by the best of the Senate, and composed of Separatist remnants and brave citizens of the galaxy.

No one:

Absolutely no one:

Me: The prequel trilogy is about Palpatine manipulating the entire Republic so he can get more and more power. He started a war to get emergency powers and in the endgame, told Anakin who he was so the Jedi would confront him and become "traitors" so he could order a genocide against them and crown himself emperor. The Jedi did everything they could and it would never be enough, because they were playing blindfolded in a game of 4D chess and Palpatine had a headstart of a few decades.

Some dude on Reddit: Ackchyually-

When people say the Jedi Code led to the Order's downfall

Like yeah, just because you don't understand their ways means they deserved to be murdered. And they always try to sugarcoat it too, like they all just got fired from the Republic or something, instead of what actually happened, they were murdered and hunted like animals, children were slaughtered, their culture was erased and rendered illegal. How was this their fault again? Because they aren't omnipotent beings who can solve problems in a blink of an eye? I can't believe this fandom anymore tbh

“While it’s true that many children are given to the Temple as infants, no child is kept with us against his or her will. The Temple is not a prison. It is a home. A school. A world within a world. A safe haven for those born with peculiar sensitivity to the Force."

-Obi Wan Kenobi

"The jedi killed people that makes them just as baaaaaad" the jedi overwhelmingly killed droids. Bumbling scrap metal designed to get blown up comedically. Most of the time, when they actually try killing a living being, that person survives and gets away. Obi-Wan has to kill Maul like 4 times until it finally sticks and it's not like Grievous was doing good things with his life.

And they didn't kill droids for the fun of it, they did it to keep the droids from killing clones and civilians? You know, the civilians who refused to fight in the war themselves until their planets got taken over, then yelled at the jedi and clones dying for them for not doing enough?

All this does is prove that the jedi were doing their best to save lives. If they abandoned the clones and sat the war out like these people say they should've then tons more would have died.

Inaction in the face of violence against others isn't noble and I don't understand why anyone would think that the moral of star wars is "inaction is the only appropriate response to oppression" like?????

[Image ID: The “we serve food here, sir” meme from Spongebob, showing Squidward. The caption reads, “We appreciate Jedi here, sir.” /End ID]

for when someone comes into your house to slander the jedi uninvited. enjoy

I recently saw a TikTok including Anakin and Plo Koon and the one thing people constantly stated in the comments was how Plo Koon is the only Jedi they like, the only good one and apparently the only one who gave Anakin advice and tried to help. (Referring to the tcw scene where Anakin is freaking out trying to find a way to find Ahsoka and Plo Koon tells him that she'll find her way back with the help of Anakin's training and teaching.)

And I honestly hate looking through comments because of these never ending and ridiculous anti jedi takes that completely miss the point of the story and because of weird statements like „this jedi is the only good one and all the others suck“, „if plo koon had been grand master order 66 wouldn’t have happened.“ (yes the last one is actually smth I saw someone say.)

Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely adore Master Plo Koon, but he isn’t better or worse than any other Jedi. He believes in the same teachings, the same wisdom and the same philosophy as every other Jedi does. Of course he’s an individual being with his own personality so he’s not literally the „same“ as everybody else, but still he adheres to the same principles or else he wouldn’t be a Jedi or part of the Order.

Additionally, he certainly isn’t the only one who has given Anakin advice. Don’t make me laugh. Are we forgetting Yoda's therapeutical sessions, as I like to call them, where he takes his time to talk to Anakin and listen to him? His advice was for Anakin to learn to let go, to not let his fears control him and that’s very good advice. Obi Wan often tried to get Anakin to open up in detail and talk about his feelings upfront, but it’s Anakin that didn’t want to. He never shared enough. And he ignored the advice and the help he was given multiple times. He didn’t wish to face his problems and his fears and that’s not smth the Jedi can force him to do. Anakin has to be willing to talk and to take the given advice to heart.

I mean just look at the fact that Ahsoka had to learn about Anakin’s past through Obi Wan. Anakin vehemently does not want and can’t be convinced to talk about his problems. He does not wish to face them. And there’s only so much another person can do for somebody. Even when Anakin tells Obi Wan about the dreams he has of his mother, he never truly tells him what the dreams are about and that they might be visions, so obviously Obi Wan is going to give advice based on what he was told and what he knows. And it isn’t uncommon to have dreams because you’re homesick or still miss your mother. It isn’t far fetched for Obi Wan to believe that such normal dreams will pass in time because he doesn’t know more than what Anakin tells him, he doesn’t know that they’re nightmares and what the dreams are about. And on top of that, even Anakin sort of brushes them aside and states he’d rather dream of Padmé. He just never takes the time to completely open up to show the seriousness of it all. The Jedi did what they could. All of them. Anakin only allowed Palpatine to get through to him, and only because Palpatine explicitly catered to Anakin's desires. He told him what he wanted to hear, not what he needed to and that’s why Anakin was drawn to him. He sort of fed into his ego. And that is also a lesson in itself that the movies try to teach the audience.

The only thing that sort of calms me down, is knowing that most of the people who write comments like this don’t even really want to understand the point of the story or really think it through. They’re mostly here because of Anakin and his edginess and handsomeness and wish to sympathize with him and romanticize the whole toxic love type of thing. So ofc Anakin cannot be blamed fully, he still needs to be made out to be this misguided man who was failed by others, so that liking him isn’t viewed as that bad. And ofc he did everything he did for love so that makes it alright, but people forget that he simply did it for "his love" and not truly for Padmé. His love for her is more important than she herself. (Selfish love/attachment vs. selfless love that the Jedi teach; another lesson the movies try to show.)

And I mean I’m not fully hating on Anakin at all, I love him as a character and I love his tragedy (or the cautionary tale Star Wars depicts) especially because he is the one that needs to be blamed.

So I sort of hate him for what he did, because I blame him and Palpatine (as one should) and do not wish to excuse the fact he helped commit a genocide or act as if the responsibility for his actions and choices doesn’t fall on him, but I still love him because he’s such a fantastic character with such a good backstory and arc.

A great villain. But that’s the point, he is the villain, there’s no arguing about this or talking around it. And it’s okay to like the villain, you don’t have to justify that by painting them in the best possible way and excusing certain behavior. You don’t have to baby them, but that’s what so many people do and it annoys me. Literally every comment I see on YouTube or any other platform will be about poor Anakin and the evil Jedi. You can love the villain for who they are with all they’re mistakes and failures, but don’t act like they’re not the villain. Don’t twist the story to favor them by villainizing the good guys instead!

Luke, Rey, Grogu, Ezra, Cal, Kanan, and Ahsoka are not grey Jedi nor are they going to be grey jedi

They are all light siders

Grey jedi do not exist

There is no grey side of the Force, and you cannot use both sides of the Force because

You cannot have balance by using both sides of the Force (for the record, "light side" is something that never comes up in Lucas' SW, it's always "dark side" and the Force itself, implying that the Force is light) because the dark side is imbalance by its own nature, and light is balance