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I feel this in my bones. They wriggle, yearning to attack.
- Vyle
"who's the evil alter" Me, if you don't shut your ass up right now
Even if you aren't a system, exploring this avenue will most likely help you figure out who you are on your path of self discovery.
If you say you're a system, we will believe you. No matter what.
Whether you use labels or you don't, you're still valid.
Don't worry about what other people think of you, focus on the ones who will support you.
your experiences are real. you’re not faking, faking takes intention.
if you’re wrong about being a system, that’s okay. finding your identity is apart of life. mistakes happen, and it doesn’t define you
if you’re right about being a system, congrats! you’re a system, regardless of what people say.
you know yourself better than anyone, don’t let people say you’re faking. they’re silly and not the good silly.
no matter how you label yourself; CDD, endogenic, traumagenic, quoigenic, any label. you’re allowed to express yourself and define what you experience.
you deserve respect and kindness <3
Sometimes it's better to just be yourself or let others be themselves without even thinking about it, if their behavior isn't harmful or toxic, why not let it be?
i think a lot of younger systems would be better off if they took a minute to stop stressing about roles or consciousness labels or headspaces or origins and just treat members of their system like random guys. that one headmate you can't tell the role of? they like hot chocolate with marshmallows and listening to the rain. you too. you need to be a random guy. being a random guy is good for everyone.
You know, as someone in an Endo system who discovered the whole Syscourse scene just a few months ago (and who wasn't even a part of the plural community before), it's really, really exhausting.
And I'm not even talking about people disagreeing with Endogenic systems existing or being critical of the community, but just the unwillingness to simply *talk* with each other.
DNI's can be genuinely helpful for those who want to cultivate their own community online and who don't want some people to interact with them to keep themselves comfortable. It's just when I see post after post with people throwing vitriol at others and then just shield themselves with a DNI... Or when I see somebody give some genuinely good examples of how some parts of the Endo community act in harmful ways and then just put an "Endo's DNI" there at the end. In part, I get that. I really do. But it also really stifles discussion (not talking about vents here, just to be clear).
I really just want to talk to people who disagree with me and people like me without worrying that I'll get posted somewhere and laughed at behind my back, or that I'll get hate asks and all. I want to be able to talk with different people and learn new things, and maybe let them know about things that they didn't know about before in turn. But wherever we go, there's always a DNI.
"An endo-friendly server that allows syscourse? DNI anti-endos. Oh, another server that allows syscourse? Cool, maybe we'll- DNI Endos."
There are no respectful places for honest debate. It's just echo chambers, where people either don't want to talk to the other side because they *don't* want to even hear their perspective, or are simply too scared of being hurt and/or bullied to be able to.
It's really exhausting.
‧͙⁺˚*･༓☾ 𝐼𝑛𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑓𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑇𝑟𝑖𝑜 ☽༓･*˚⁺‧͙
[Plain text: Introducing The Starflower Trio]
Hello! We're a mediple system of three members, though we have a lot of soulbonds too! Our other blogs are listed under our members section. We're bodily 19 :3
✨ Our members ✨
🫖: Aster┆ae/fae/dae┆host┆fae┆same as body
🌿: lu/luna/ne/nim/dus/dusk┆base┆aviankin┆systeen
🌙: Lunette┆star/dust, ne/nim, moon/light, dus/dusk┆facet of 🌿┆alien┆systeen
Our other blogs
@the-soulbonded-teaparty - blog about soulbonding
@vernon-the-poltergeist - Vernon's personal blog
@atlases-map - Atlas's personal blog
✨ byf ✨
★ We're an endogenic system, so if you don't like that please block us.
★ We're rad incluse (not radqueer)
★ We're trans and non binary heavy, if you're transphobic or ennbyphobic you will be blocked
★ A lot of us use xenogenders and neopronouns
★ Pro good faith and non harmful identities
★ We don't have a dni, but will block as we see fit
★ We are anti harassment
just in case you need to hear it today:
you don’t have to prove your plurality to anyone. if you say that you’re plural, i’ll believe you, and so will so many other systems on this site.
remember that for every fakeclaimer, there’s dozens of people who believe and support you.
your plurality is beautiful and valid and completely unique to you. no two systems experience plurality the exact same way, and that should be celebrated.
you know,, i wish plural awareness wasn't confined to small corners of the internet. and i wish that it included everyone. i wish that there were more in-person plural meets or groups. i wish that there was more of systems coming out to singlets offline. i wish that we could wear front indicators or nametags, plural pride attire, clothes that fit our selves. i wish that we could put stickers or posters or zines about systemhood out in public. i wish that we could find each other in the wild and feel less alone. there IS some of it out there, and it makes me so so happy to know that it's achievable, but plural spaces are predominantly online, and i just wish we could be louder offline too. it's definitely scary and not feasible for some, i'm not saying to risk your safety. i just hope more of us can be proud out in-person.
Guide to Pluralkit
So pluralkit is a tool used very commonly for plural systems. Basically what it does is proxy who’s speaking (this can have an alters name, pronouns, a custom profile picture, ect.) it’s very easy to use once you get the hang of it!
Step 1. Make yourself a private discord server. The reason why is because that way it’s easier to edit and save what you need in the server.
after this you will need to add pluralkit to the server. You can do this by going to the website (https://pluralkit.me) or clicking the bot in a server you share with it, and adding it to your server.
Okay so after that, set up your server. All it needs is the channels you guys need. Obviously general can be whatever, we use it for bot commands. Would recommend a system chat channel, especially if you cannot speak internally. Other channels that might be helpful, or channels to store picrews and things of that nature, we have one for storing alter intros, if you don’t want to have a psychical diary, you could start one in the private server, and basically anything you need. The idea is that this server only has you guys in it
Step 2. Okay so you’ll need to set up a system now. To get started you’ll need to do pk;s new keep in mind you can only have one system per discord account, and only 1k members (we have heard you can request more in the discord server, but we haven’t tried it ourselves)
Most system servers require a system tag. To set one you do pk;s tag (tag here) tags can be anything in a character limit. Ours is 💙. Some servers don’t like when people have the same tag, so if you need to change it in a server you can do pk;s server tag (tag here)
After setting up your system to add a member you do pk;m new (members name) keep in mind you want it to be one word with no spaces or hard to use symbols. This is so it’s as easy as possible to edit. Also would like to add, if you throw in a image while doing this command, it will set that alters avatar without having to do another command (image below is a random image we had saved) if you are like us, and have alters that share names, it’s best to just add a number (no space still) infront, this makes it way easier to edit.
To set up a display name you do pk;m (members name) dn (what you want it to say, we normally have name and pronouns, and if a alter has like a specific role in the system, sometimes that gets added if the alter wants it)
If you accidentally set the wrong profile picture, or a alter wants a different one for whatever reason, the command is pk;m (name) avatar and then insert the photo
Finally to set a proxy do pk; (member name) proxy (proxy here)text (the text can also be behind the poxy, it just has to be behind or above) proxys can be anything basically! We usually use emojis, although whatever you do, make it something you don’t use. For emojis we have one or two emojis typically that represent the alter, and then the blue heart emoji in front that way if it’s a emoji we use a lot, it isn’t going to proxy us by accident. You can either do the proxy everytime you speak, or do a few commands.
Pk;ap latch this latches to the last used proxy. Good when one alter is having a conversation, but others aren’t.
Pk;ap (name) this latches to the alters name that is used. Does not change until turned off, or switched to a different alter, or auto proxy command.
Pk;ap front this command sets whoever is set as fronting as the auto proxy. The front is set by doing pk;switch (name) To turn off all of these the command is Pk;ap off
Step 3. With pluralkit you can add alters to groups!
To make a group you do pk;g new (groups name) like with the base names you want it to be one word, no spaces or weird symbols.
with groups you can set display names, descriptions, avatars, just for that group!
pk;g description (put the description you want with the command)
pk;g avatar (photo)
pk;g dn (name)
To add members to the group do pk;g (groups name) add (name) (name 2) you can add as many as you want, just make sure to not use commas or and, just name after name separated by a space
Step 4. To set a system/alter description and banner is pretty easy.
For system:
pk;s description (desc goes here)
pk;s banner (add image)
For Alters:
pk;m (name) description (desc goes here)
pk;m (name) banner (add image)
Step 5. Finally, some good commands to just know.
If you react with a question mark emoji on an alter using pluralkit, it gives you information about the person. (Username, ect)
If you have a member you feel needs to be private the command is pk;m (name) private
to delete a member you do pk;m (name) delete and then enter in the code it gives you
to change a alters base name, (not dn) do pk;m (name) rn (new name)
A fun little pluralkit game is going “pk;r (random silly thing here)” Pk;r randomly picks a alter, so putting a random caption over it can be fun sometimes.
if you do set a alters name as something with a space, you’ll have to edit it in qoutes. (Pk;m “Example name with a space” (command)
to look up a list of alters do pk;m list or pk;s list
Thanks for reading! Pluralkit is confusing at first, so we thought we would make a simple guide!
-Carrie + a few others
Woo there's going to be an AMA on the tulpas subreddit in May (date is being finalized but it'll be either the 2nd or 16th) by Dr. Michael Lifshitz who did the FMRI study and renowned anthropologist Dr. Tanya Lurhmann who did an informational interview with the study participants.
We are beyond psyched.
#Fourteen
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Tumblr Post of our Endogenic and Non-traumagenic Plurality Research
Endogenic & Non-Traumagenic Plurality By Guardians System, a diagnosed traumagenic DID system with PTSD and CPTSD For use by everyone, to be read by EVERYONE Brought to you by sysmeds who say “I’m not reading all that” (/j)
Feel free to DM on Twitter at GuardiansSystemOpen for anonymous questions on Tellonym also under GuardiansSystemOtherwise, just comment! :)
Lists of Links Put together by community members! (Not thoroughly checked)
Plurality/Multiplicity + Syscourse Resources and Findings Pastebin by ButterflyBlood - contains info from the DSM-3 to the DSM-V, medical info, community info, Tulpa info, syscourse info, and a video
Cambrian's Thread of Experts Thread by the Cambrian Crew - contains info from Dr Eric Yarbrough (Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association), info from Dr Nijenhuis and Van Der Hart (two of the writers of the Theory of Structural Dissociation), info from the ICD-11 and DSM-V-TR, and an interview by Dr Richard Loewenstein (lead editor of the DSM-V’s section on DIssociative Disorders)
Studies into non-disordered and/or endogenic plurality Pastebin by Oliviaset - contains multiple science/government links and a video
Collected Plurality Info - 8 pages of resources - Fractal System Document by The Fractal System - contains explanations on multiple types of plurality and references links to each, contains community info, history info, academic info, and more
Scientific Papers on Endogenic Plurality - r/Plural Post and comments by numerous systems/supporters - contains a massive amount of uncategorised links to all types of information on non-traumagenic plurality
Multiplicity Links - SARAH K REECE Site by Sarah K Reece - a previously diagnosed traumagenic DID system that no longer fits the criteria but is still a system, links focus mainly on general helpful system information
Scientific Articles on Nondisordered Systems Document by Tabellenblatt1 (?) - contains info specific to non-disordered plurality, including the interview by Dr Richard Loewenstein
Ex Uno Plures - Articles Community site by Plures House - contains explanations on plurality, info on living plural, info on personal experiences, medical info, philosophical info, social info, and syscourse info
An Endogenic Proof Masterlist - Plural Anomaly Document by Plural Anomaly - contains community info, academic info, and criticisms on the Theory of Structural Dissociation
Plurality Studies - Multiplicity and Plurality Wiki Wiki made by numerous community members - contains uncategorised abstracts from medical info and info on Tulpas
Non-Traumagenic & Endogenic System Information General medical/clinical studies and research
It's just a body: A community-based participatory exploration of the experiences and health care needs for transgender plural people Study by numerous people including a system - repeatedly references and explains multiple types of plurality, both traumagenic and non-traumagenic
Multiplicity: An Explorative Interview Study on Personal Experiences of People with Multiple Selves Study by numerous people - uses some outdated language, however, explores how systems exist both with and without Dissociative Identity Disorder
Conceptualising multiplicity spectrum experiences: a systematic review and thematic synthesis Study by numerous people - explores how multiplicity exists outside of Dissociative Identity Disorder in a medical context in order to recommend appropriate health services
Critiquing the Requirement of Oneness over Multiplicity: An Examination of Dissociative Identity (Disorder) in Five Clinical Texts (Alternative Link) Study by Kymbra Clayton - explains how multiple selves can be healthy without the need for singularity
NORMAL DIMENSIONS OF MULTIPLE PERSONALITY WITHOUT AMNESIA Study by multiple people - uses slightly outdated language, describes how multiplicity can be considered natural without the dissociative disorders, and how the dissociative disorders could simply be expanding upon multiplicity
Cognitive processes in dissociation: An analysis of core theoretical assumptions Study by numerous people - discusses potentially healthy dissociation and the existence of dissociation without trauma
MODES OF EXISTENCE: TOWARDS A PHENOMENOLOGICAL POLYPSYCHISM Study by Mick Cooper - discusses alternative ways for multiple selves to exist
A plurality of selves? An illustration of polypsychism in a recovered addict Study by Peter T.F. Raggatt - discusses the normality of non-traumagenic multiplicity and different ways for natural plurality to exist
A Jungian Perspective on the Dissociability of the Self Study by Brian R. Skea - includes multiple mentions of Freud, extremely explicit and triggering language, and repeated use of outdated terms, however helps to provide an understanding of much older views on non-traumagenic dissociation and plurality
TRANSGENDER Mental Health - chapter 11 Book by Dr. Eric Yarbrough of the American Psychiatric Association - states repeatedly throughout the chapter that plurality is only a part of dissociative identity disorder and exists without the disorder, as well as trauma only being reported in some cases of plurality and that trauma is not the only cause for plurality, and states that plurality itself is only a collection of alters
"I've Learned to Treat my Characters like People": Varieties of Agency and Interaction of Writers' Experiences of their Characters' Voices Study by multiple people - describes authors’ common experience of accidental multiplicity caused by their characters gaining autonomy
Dissociation in Trauma: A New Definition and Comparison with Previous Formulations Article by Ellert R S Nijenhuis and Onno van der Hart (two of the writers of the Theory of Structural Dissociation) - page 27, at the end of the article, they recognise mediumship and similar practices as a “division of personality,” which is what they refer to the dissociative disorders as
Exploring the Experiences of Young People with Multiplicity Research by Zarah Eve and Sarah Perry - begins with multiplicity only sometimes being applicable for a DID/OSDD diagnosis, and continues that multiplicity itself and the dissociative disorders are not the same, as well as some respondents not associating their multiplicity with trauma alongside the dissociative disorders not applying to some of the respondents, and having a section for some multiplicity not being based in trauma
Comparison of Brazilian spiritist mediumship and dissociative identity disorder Study by multiple people - in comparing Dissociative Identity Disorder with Brazilian Spiritist Mediumship, it was found the two shared very similar results, only that the Mediumship results appeared slightly healthier than DID
Tulpamancy Studies and research specifically on Tulpas, though can apply to other plurality
Tibetan Buddhist with a Tulpa - Opinion on Plurality Post by Dharma Yokeyodasampa - a Tibetan Buddhist with a more traditional Tulpa asking community members for questions, discussions include what they think about plurality, western Tulpamancy, how their Tulpa feels, and the difference between western Tulpamancy and the Tibetan practice. (This is a post compiling and explaining most of it, with a response from Dharma.)
Personality Characteristics of Tulpamancers and Their Tulpas Study by multiple people - examines and explores what Tulpas are, what they do, their role, Tulpa experiences, some history, and more
Sentient companions predicted and modeled into existence: explaining the Tulpa phenomenon Study by Kaj Sotala - describes a theory on how Tulpas may be psychologically caused via “feedback loops” (can also be applied to various other types of plurality, such as multiplicity caused by authors/artists and caused by other disorders)
A Time for Tulpas Thesis by Nick Stager - discusses what a Tulpa is, experiences with Tulpas, the development of Tulpas, how other practices may be similar, how an author can accidentally create Tulpas, and more
Tracking the Tulpa - Exploring the "Tibetan" Origins of a Contemporary Paranormal Idea Book by Natasha L. Mikles and Joseph P. Laycock - explains what Tulpas are, how Tulpas are created both intentionally and unintentionally, some of the history behind Tulpa, and Tulpas based on theosophy instead of the Tibetan practice
Tulpas and Mental Health: A Study of Non-Traumagenic Plural Experiences Study by Jacob J. Isler - explains what Tulpamancy is and how it can differ from Dissociative Identity Disorder but still be plural
Paranormalizing the Popular through the Tibetan Tulpa: Or what the next Dalai Lama, the X Files and Affect Theory (might) have in common Article by Ben Joffe - explains what Tulpas are, how Tulpas develop, Tulpa experiences in the outside world, the difference between Tulpamancy and the Tibetan practice, some of the history behind Tulpas, Theosophy-related Tulpas, and Tibetan Sprulpa experiences
Making Friends - Transcript of a Podcast on Tulpas (Slightly incorrect: more info here) Discussion by multiple people - explains multiple personal experiences with a Tulpa, actions of a Tulpa, accidental creation of Tulpas through writing, Tulpas taking over the physical body, Tulpas having a different identity, purposeful creation of Tulpas, discussions with professionals (Richard J. Loewenstein,) the difference between Tulpas and psychosis, the similarity between Tulpas and Dissociative Identity Disorder, how without distress then it can’t be disordered, and more
Daring to Hear Voices
Dalai Lama - Buddhist practices are open to those who need them
Clinical Information Helpful medical information not specifically related to non-traumagenic systems
DID Brain Pattern Study Doesn't Measure Up - December 2018 Critique by Spot&Cerberus - discusses the multiple flaws with the MRI scan on DID patients
Moral Status and the Treatment of DID Study by Timothy J. Bane - discusses the current known treatments for DID in the context of integration being commonly used, how it may be unethical and unhealthy to force integration, and that a multiple can healthily exist
DID, OSDD, and UDD Diagnostic Guide (NZ) Diagnostic guide by ACC (Accident Compensation Corporation) - the New Zealand guide to diagnosing patients with DID, OSDD, and UDD, includes history of the diagnosis, problems with the diagnosis, alternative diagnoses, requirements for a diagnosis, what to avoid in a diagnosis, what to look for in a diagnosis, and similar
The Theory of Structural Dissociation Theory by multiple people - the most commonly used theory to explain dissociation, often specifically related to dissociative disorders
Problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation Research by multiple people - discusses multiple problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation, including it being a theory, the discarding of derealisation, depersonalisation, dissociative fugue, dissociative amnesia, the lack of association with trauma and PTSD in the DSM-V, and proposes some different ideas
ICD-11 for Mortality and Morbidity Statistics Book by the World Health Ogranisation - Dissociative disorders on 6B64
DSM DID ALTERATIONS
DSM-V-TR
DSM-V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition) Book by the American Psychiatric Association - Dissociative Disorders on page 336
DSM-IV-TR
DSM-IV
DSM-III-R
DSM-III
DSM-II-SPECIAL
DSM-II
DSM-I-SPECIAL
DSM-I
Plural History Explanations and references to different parts of plural history
Plural History - 1811 Collection by Lb Lee - contains multiple parts of history in which systems of all types have existed (there are 4 different chapters)
A Partial History of Plural Self-Advocacy Collection by Alt H - describes times in history starting from 1987 when non-traumagenic plural advocacy was recorded
It's Not Just a Tumblr Thing - Kerry Dawkins Article by Ex Uno Plures - contains references in history to plurality outside of and before Tumblr
A Brief History of the Use of "System" in a Non-DID Space Collection by Lb Lee - describes the history of the word “system” being used to describe those with multiple selves, and how it isn’t a disorder-specific term
A Quick'N'Dirty History of "System" as Plural Slang Collection by Lb Lee - explains the history of the word “system” and the different uses
"Endogenic" was not coined by Freud Collection by Sophie in Wonderland - a discussion on the anti-endos claim that “endogenic” was coined by Freud
Origin of the term Endogenic Explanation by the Lunastus Collective - details how the term “endogenic” came to be created, what led up to it, and what happened after
I saw a post saying we should just believe RAMCOA surivors... okay... so how about this one? Explanation by Sophie in Wonderland - describes how and why anti-endos think “system hopping” was stolen by endogenic systems from RAMCOA systems, including an explanation from the RAMCOA system that anti-endos reference
Community Explanations Explanations on endogenic plurality by community members (sources are used)
Debunking the Anti-Endo Carrd - Guardians System To be updated
What do Sysmeds say That is Transphobic/TERF Rhetoric? Post by multiple people - a discussion on the comparison of sysmeds and transmeds, and how their arguments and the language they use is the same
Why Not Just Use Thoughtform? Collection by Sophie in Wonderland and Olivia Set - describes why some parogenic systems prefer using Tulpa over Thoughtform
Debunking Sysmeds - Claims and Rebuttals Carrd by Ozymandias& - lists claims that anti-endos make against endogenic systems, and critiques the claims alongside referencing studies
I would define a plural system as having multiple, compartmentalised, self-conscious agents - SophieInWonderland Collection by Sophie in Wonderland - an explanation of the validity of endogenic and non-traumagenic systems complete with referenced research and studies
Studies and Research into Endogenic and Non-Disordered Plurality
Masterpost - Academia on Endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality Post by Inclusive Syscourse - contains an explanation on the validity of endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality complete with referenced research
Claims There is No Research On Endogenics Post by Unknown - a list of research on endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality alongside explanations and descriptions
Origins of Plurality and Levels of Dissociation Study by The Phoenixes - uses the DES to gain insight into plurality not caused by trauma
The Tulpa Carrd - explain the nature and origins of Tulpamancy and what surrounds it Carrd by Unknown - lists an explanation and some history of Tulpamancy alongside references to research
Likely Origins of "Tulpamancy is Cultural Appropriation" Post by the Dragonheart System - critiques a Carrd claiming that Tulpamancy is cultural appropriation, referencing research and studies
Resources General helpful resources for all systems
Multiplicity Wiki - A wiki by plurals and multiples, for plurals and multiples Wiki by multiple people - contains terms, definitions, and general information on all types of plurality and multiplicity
Layman's Guide to Multiplicity Guide by Unknown - contains terms, definitions, information, explanations, and experiences on multiple types of plurality
The Plural Association - For Dissociative Identity Disorder & all other forms of Multiplicity under the Plural umbrella Organisation by the Stronghold System (?) - contains help sites for all types of struggling systems, alongside helpful information and articles on multiple areas
Pluralpedia - the collaborative plurality dictionary Dictionary by multiple people - contains a massive amount of information on the majority of plural terms and history
Endogenic Hub - a site dedicated to endogenic plurality Hub by the Hordes System - contains information and experiences on multiple types of non-traumagenic plurality, alongside explanations of what plurality is
More Than One - Plurality (or multiplicity) is the existence of multiple self-aware entities inside one physical brain Site by Unknown - contains information on terms, different system origins, denounces myths about plurality, and different plural experiences
The Dissociative Initiative - For, by, and about people with multiplicity, dissociation, and amnesia Run by Sarah K Reece - a support group for systems that contains different information and resources on plurality
Tulpa Info - "For Science" Guide by Unknown - multiple different languages, explains what a Tulpa is, why they can exist, and where to begin when making a Tulpa
FAQ If you’re a sysmed, you might end up here! Congrats if you do!
What is a system? A system is anyone who has more than one entity/identity in the body/brain.
What is plural/multiple? They mean pretty much the same as "system", only "plural" was made exclusively to be inclusive of every experience that involves many in the same body. E.g. if someone is an anti-endo or sysmed and uses the hashing "plural" to find friends, they're going to attract inclusive folks who support endos.
What is DID? DID stands for Dissociative Identity Disorder. It is a disorder in which a system experiences severe dissociation that heavily impacts their life on a day-to-day basis.
What is OSDD? OSDD stands for otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder and is used when they experience similar symptoms to DID but are missing one of the diagnostic criteria. E.g. OSDD-1A is used when there's a lack of distinct identities or no identities. OSDD-1B is used when there's a lack of memory gaps. (The separate OSDD categories don't properly exist as a diagnosis themselves - they are carried over from DDNOS.)
What is UDD? UDD stands for Unspecified Dissociative Disorder. It's often used as a placeholder diagnosis by professionals to say that although there is a dissociative disorder, they're not sure what it is.
What is a non-disordered system? A non-disordered system is a system without DID, OSDD, or UDD. They don't experience the disorders or do not fit the criteria.
What is traumagenic, endogenic, mixed-origins, etc.? Traumagenic is a system that is formed from trauma. Endogenic is a system that is formed without trauma. Mixed-origins is a system that has multiple origins, E.g. some alters came from trauma and some did not.
What is a Tulpa? A Tulpa is a created identity that comes from repeatedly feeding information on one character or multiple characters into the brain. It can be purposeful or accidental.
DID/OSDD/UDD are trauma disorders? The diagnostic criteria for the disorders don't include trauma being necessary, nor does it anywhere else in the category. Trauma disorders and dissociative disorders are also categorised separately, and there are past studied cases of DID that weren't caused by trauma. The DSM-V-TR also includes a section that states trauma isn't necessary for a diagnosis.
You need trauma to be a system? The DSM-V specifies that a diagnosis of DID cannot be applied to cultural plurality. Culture-related plurality has existed and been documented for centuries, erased by colonisation and racism. Common cultural plurality includes Tibetan Buddhism, many Two-Spirit folk, medians, and mediums. These and more are all plural.
Dissociation is a trauma reaction? You’ll find nearly every if not every professional refers to some dissociation as “trauma-related dissociation” - take, for example, Kathy Steele, one of the writers of the Theory of Structural Dissociation, whose work consists almost only of “trauma-related dissociation”. That wouldn’t be necessary if dissociation only came from trauma. Dissociation is commonly shown to exist both inside and outside of other disorders. It’s especially common in BPD, ADHD, MADD, autism, and a few other disorders.
So only cultural and spiritual plurality can be non-traumagenic? They’re the most well-researched, but not the only non-traumagenic plurality. There are a few different theories as to how other plurality can form. Many experience their plurality caused by mostly unrelated disorders - autism, ADHD, BPD, Bipolar Disorder, MADD, etc. Others report accidentally creating alters, especially those who focus on characters, such as writers, artists, and authors. Yet more simply say they were born with their plurality, or grew up being plural without trauma being the cause. We believe plurality that hasn’t existed since birth could be caused by a “feedback loop” (here) in which one’s brain, after being fed repeated information, begins to predict the information, therefore creating actions to fill that prediction. This could be used to explain Tulpamancy (repeated info), artists/authors/writers (repeated info), ASD (masking and special interests), ADHD (masking and hyperfixations), BPD (splitting and more), MADD (repeated info), Bipolar (different states), and so on.
Endogenic systems harm traumagenic systems? We and others have asked multiple times for sysmeds to tell us why they think endogenic systems hurt them, and every time we’ve either received silence or something that’s already been covered. Besides that, anti-endos hurt other traumagenic systems with their BS far more than endogenic systems might hurt them.
Anti-endos hurt traumagenic systems? Yup, and very frequently, considering sysmeds repeat the exact same information. Sysmeds say you have to be disordered to be a system - traumagenic systems exist without being disordered. Sysmeds say endogenic systems stole traumagenic terms - a mix of the communities coined the majority of system terms, and “endogenic” was coined by a traumagenic system. Sysmeds say what someone went through isn’t traumatising or horrific enough - traumagenic systems can be caused by any amount of trauma, no matter how “insignificant” it seems. Sysmeds repeatedly tell endogenic systems they need to have trauma - telling someone they have to have trauma when they either don’t or have amnesia around it can be incredibly damaging and has hurt many traumagenic systems. Sysmeds say they need to go to a psychologist or a therapist and be diagnosed - many traumagenic systems can’t be diagnosed. Many endogenic systems have trauma, just know they weren’t formed from it, and anti-endos repeatedly mock them about having trauma. There’s much, much more, but to end it, as a traumagenic system, we’ve personally been assaulted, harassed, threatened, told to kill ourself, and had our trauma completely invalidated and discarded by anti-endo traumagenic systems.
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Endogenic Research (Text Form) - NightFallSystem
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Hey everybody.
This is a list of the research and resources we've compiled over the last year or so that refers in some way to plurality, especially in the context of being endogenic and non-traumagenic supportive.
We often argue this subject on Twitter, alongside (hope you don't mind the tags) @cambriancrew and @sophieinwonderland . We've included a few of their posts in this, as they do share some wonderful information. Sophie deals in mainly Tulpamancy, we believe? And Cambrians does a wide range of things. They've both been incredibly helpful, so big credit and massive thank you to those two (and anyone else in this document) :)
Feel free to link this post or the document itself to anyone. Link it everywhere. Feel free to tag us too, as your friendly neighbourhood endo-friendly traumagenic DID system with PTSD and CPTSD. Our collective pronouns are phe/phex/phins, and we're collectively called Guardians or Guardians System.
Hope this helps some folks! If anything's wrong in this post, mention it in the notes (we think that's how Tumblr works?) and we'll adjust it in the Google Document. Alternatively, if you'd prefer to remain anonymous or would like to talk to us directly, you can check our LinkTree at the top of this page. We're always open to feedback and new research! We're especially interested in making our document more reader-friendly, as it can be a bit of an eyesore. but we're not the best at formatting documents.
If we do receive updates to edit some information, we'll be doing so on the document, so always double-check there in case there's been a change. If there are enough updates, we'll redo this post, but hopefully, that won't be necessary for a long time, because formatting all this in Tumblr is more than enough for us.
Thank you for reading!
-Rakan (not Marcus, fuck you Marcus)
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Pro-Endo/Endo safe flag
Pro-Endo/Endo safe flag(also known as the Phoenix Plural Flag)!!!
so umm
hai!!! my names June!
and im the newest member of TVoWF!
and even though i dont know much about syscourse i do know and have seen how it has negatively impacted our friends/other system members!
it made me really sad so i decided to make a flag ig!!!
Basically my thought process would to make like...a flag for anyone who's pro-endo!!(though it could also just be seen as a plural flag :>)
oh!! also a small note :D
since we have seen alot of singlets who are anti endo(which makes me sad D:) we just wanted to add that singlets can use this flag as-well to umm show that their a safe person!!!(whaaa that wording may be weird sorry!!!)
so...um yeah!!
:D
-June
note: also umm pro-leaning endo neutrals can use this flag as-well :>!!
[Image ID/ A rectangular flag with 8 horizontal stripes, the top stripe and bottom stripe and thinner than the rest. The colors in order from top to bottom are: Off white, Pale yellow, Orange, Orange-Red, Deep Red, Indigo, Cerulean, Sky blue. /END ID]
[Neon speaking] its kinda weird to me that the dsm-5 criteria for ptsd requires trauma from physical danger, when we have trauma from a butt load of other shit that just. doesn't count in the eyes of the dsm? its mostly confusing that only physical danger counts to ptsd but everything else is otherwise specified trauma disorder, when the name is post traumatic stress disorder, and traumatic stress can come from so many different things
idk i just wanted to ramble about that cuz it doesn't make sense to me
![[Neon Speaking] Decided To Coin A Gender Term Because I Couldn't Find One That Fit Part Of My Experience!](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5b13311307a455cb8734ce58cda013ef/b577848e1ff5dae0-6c/s500x750/6e724f588d1df27f09efd815ea6709f5ef22a605.png)
[Neon speaking] Decided to coin a gender term because I couldn't find one that fit part of my experience!
Swimdraconic is a gender that relates to how it feels to be a draconic being while swimming. It can relate to the feeling of water on one's scales, how the action of swimming feels in one's draconic body, or any other variation of experiencing being in the water while being draconic, be it in a calm pond or strong currents in the ocean.
This makes my demonkin self super happy <3
black winged emojis pt4
Introduction Post
Howdy all, thought it was finally time to make an intro post. I'm Aurora, the current host of my small praesigenic system here. I use she/they pronouns.
We can't give an exact headcount right now as we learn more about ourselves but there's at least 4 of us. They might add onto the post here with edits or in reblogs if they so desire but that is up to them and not my place. We don't post a whole lot but tend to lurk around reblogging when the mood strikes us.
Greetings, my name is Suns a Seven Red Suns fictive. The closest role I can tell I have is as a caretaker of the system but I tend to be close to front a good amount of the time but only front when I wish to or when necessary. I use They/He pronouns and tend to be the being that writes out posts when we make them. I might start making a tagging system to differentiate our posts but that will come later.
Hey Nix here. Namesake of the blog, might change it later but this is fine. I use she/her pronouns and use my own tag when I make posts/add to a reblog. Have fun all I'll be around.
Howdy I'm Chara, can take a guess where I'm from. I only use they/them pronouns, any others are wrong and I'm not too much of a coward to confront somebody over it. I'll be around but don't expect my posts or reblogs to be particularly kind.
I'm V, I exist. Do not refer to me with pronouns.
As baselines we are pro-endo and anti-sysmed for stances in syscourse. We might or might not interact with it but any bigotry aimed at us or those we love will not be tolerated.
Live your lives to the fullest, in this world we don't really get many second chances. Be kind to others and hopefully you'll get the same back.
For those who wish to see
Co-con? unoriginal. boring. (/lighthearted)
Backseat gaming? supreme. unique. perfect. implies everyone behaves like twitch chat.
just stealing this ask directly from an anti-endo blog I ended up finding on my dash that I don't want to spread anything from. I wanted to talk about this cuz we just started to find our own innerworld after over half a year of exploration as a system. though even now we can't really explain much at all about it beyond very basics of like "common areas"
we have spent fucking months on the edge of our seat just to watch the next episode of an anime every week. Did it with jjk, did it with Solo Leveling (which is a phenomenal adaptation btw you should watch it 100%), hell we've done it with demon slayer. it keeps up momentum, it gives everybody content, it leads to pacing that is so much better, it lets the writers fuckin write and keeps the animators paid.
