Yeah Yea, It'll Definitely Be Something

Yeah yea, it'll definitely be something

Something I also thing could be interesting with this theory is that Rick worked at the post office in between SM4 and SM5, according to those Mother's Day and Father's Day illustrations Pelo made last year

Yeah, iirc that's where his last name was revealed.

Pretty sure you mentioned this before at some point, but I think it's kind of weird that Roy Against Society is basically the only fanwork that plays with the cultist Rick idea.

Golden Goose (Mammon x Stella) Headcanons

You can see my first batch of thoughts for these two here.

This particular batch is quite general and will have some family stuff and how the relationship effects those around the lovely couple.

Mammon is, ironically, more of a night owl than Stella and she often falls asleep first.

Before they got together, Mam would usually sleep with a large pillow in his arms for slight emotional comfort. Stella's presence comforts him far more, calling back to the last one, though it still takes him a bit to nod off it's still quicker than before.

Mam always brags about Stella to the other Sins, especially Ozzie. Even her smallest achievement is something Mammon cherishes as much as possible.

Speaking of Ozzie, the first time he talked to Mammon after he started dating Stella, he made a crack at Mammon going blind to a gold-digger over her own "assets". Before he could properly register it, Mam had him pinned to the floor with a hand tightening around his neck, Ozz immediately took his joke back. It was then that he realized that the seemingly impossible happened, Mammon was in a loving relationship.

Expanding on the concept of Stella sating her curiosity about "peasant" things, she tries to play a fighting game with Via and struggles. Via tells her not to worry about it, but the lose activates Stella's competitive nature and she starts practicing in her free time (Something Mammon makes sure she has plenty of) . She absolutely demolishes both Mam and Via at the next family game night. And that was how Octavia learned how quick of a learner her mother is.

This one was originally an ask for @pinkandpurple360 but it seemingly went the way of HB's original premise: While he got to see Charlie grow up and now has a daughter in Octavia, Mammon wishes deep down that he could raise a child of his own blood. It's not that he doesn't love Charlie and Via, he just can't help but feel he's missing something he wants. He considers asking Stella about having another kid, but knows that she was forced to have Via. This makes him confront the dilemma of pursuing his wish or not reawakening the trauma of the woman he loves. This idea definitely deserves more exploration, maybe in a fic.

After Stella and Mammon get hitched, people returning their Robofizz becomes a far rarer phenomenon, mostly because word gets out that Via personally "deactivates" any returned or recalled Fizzbots, who start going above and beyond to please their owners to avoid the princess' coulrophobia-fueled fury.

Rick might be a cultist

With how much discussion there is around potential cultists in the fandom, I'm honestly surprised by how little consideration goes to this idea but I can't hold it in anymore, I think Rick is a cultist.

Yes, I am genuinely convinced that Rick motherfucking Hedony is in with the bad guys and I have several reasons for saying so.

One that started as a bit of a joke but became more convincing to me over time, despite being apathetic enough to constantly quit jobs, Rick doesn't seem to have any trouble getting new ones, this seems insignificant, but is more substantial when you take something else into account.

That something being what Rick does in TT, he leaves when he sees Bob but stays behind the store. At least to me, it reads like he knows Bob won't go after him since their both cultists and is just waiting for Kevin and the boys to get killed, this also explains his awkward attempt at small talk with Kevin, he wasn't expecting him to survive.

If he is indeed a member of the cult then he likely wouldn't have trouble getting other cultist to pull some strings and get him jobs that pay at least somewhat reasonably. It'd be hard for a prospective boss to turn you down if you're helping them take over the world.

I also find it interesting that we don't see his reaction to the Dexter Fella in episode 4, probably nothing, but interesting to think about. I know I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for his potential reaction to any supernatural goings on in episode 6.

Lastly, if Rick really is a lower level member of the cult, it's possible that seeing Eyes, or something else his mind wasn't ready to handle, broke him and that's why he's as emotionally vacant as he is.

If anyone has any corrections, additional pieces of evidence, or general thoughts on this theory, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.

Yeah!

Roy Against Society is a really good fic tbh, I love how it uses the characters

Esp with Rick (spoilers if you haven't read it): He used Roy's uncle dying as a way to finally escape the cult and had been changing jobs so much in an effort to lose their trail, but he knew he was only delaying the inevitable before they found him. Really interesting interpretation of his character

Yeah, I've read it, really solid character work all around.

Honestly, these smaller theories and discussions only make me more hyped for episode 6, can't wait for January!

Any thoughts on the revised version in comparison to the version we discussed, @pinkandpurple360?

I'd really appreciate any feedback. :)

The part of HRM I've had the most fun developing

There's a particular part of Helluva Rewritten Musical that I've been thinking about more than any other. That being the sequence that focuses on Stella and Octavia's relationship and personal issues while their hiding out in Wrath.

Some of this I've only previously shared with @pinkandpurple360 , whose insights about HB's writing and general willingness to help me develop these ideas has been invaluable to HRM as a whole, and especially to this scene.

Bare in mind this is just an early outline, though I plan to keep the specific lines of dialogue as I'm really proud of it.

The sequence begins with Stella, Octavia and Striker entering a hideout Striker had prepared for the Goetia women while they were in hiding with him as their bodyguard. Towards the back of the stage there's a door slightly to the left and a couch slightly to the right.

Stella is very anxious as she recognized Blitz in an earlier scene and decides that for the remainder of their "exile" that she and Via have to disguise themselves as lower rank hellborns, something Octavia says she doesn't know how to do.

This revelation infuriates Stella as she lashes out in indignation that Via can't manifest a disguise, she says she'll explain it to Via later but that in the meantime, Striker has to find a succubus and off them for their asmodean crystal.

Striker nods and exits the scene.

Here Octavia reveals that she tried to learn on her own but couldn't get the hang of it and, due to his self-absorbed and neglectful nature, Stolas never actually helped her manifest a disguise, something Stella herself only learnt by watching her brother practice, as typically only a Goetia's heir is taught the skill.

Stella yells at Via that she needs a moment to collect her thoughts and that they'll back to the disguise talk later.

Stella then goes into another room in the hideout, something depicted with Stella walking through the door at the back of the stage as Via exits stage right, then Stella re-enters through the same door, representing her entering another room and the scene changing.

Here the show arrives at Stella's solo number, wherein she vents her frustration that she's never been listened to despite being a noble, during the song she comes to the realization she isn't frustrated that she hasn't been listened to, but that she's never had meaningful agency over what matters to her (her status, the respect of the Ars Goetia, etc...), except for her relationship with Via.

I've yet to come up with any satisfactory titles for Stella's song, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

After the song ends Stella decides that she has to smooth things over with Via. The scene changes in the same way as before, this time, while Stella is behind the door Via enters stage right, sitting down on the couch, frustrated trying to manifest a disguise. Her attempts are represented by brief moments of purple lighting illuminating her corner of the stage, that's when Stella enters and sit down next to her. The lights only illuminate there half of the stage.

The two talk about the frustration they've been suppressing for as long as they've been living with Stolas, which unfortunately for Via, includes her whole life up to that point, she also expresses anger at her mother and how distant she's been during the affair drama. This gets Stella emotional and prompts this exchange between them:

Stella: I just hope you can understand, Dear. All I've ever had is my place in the world, and now-now I've lost my own and cost you yours. * Stella rests her head in one of her hands as the other stays between her and Via on the couch* What could I ever have now? *Stella's voice is shaky and she clearly feels she's lost everything, she's on the verge of tears*

There's a moment of silence between the two

Octavia: *Takes hold of Stella's free hand and gently moves it over her chest* A place in my heart, mom. You'll always have that. *She lets go of her mother's hand but Stella holds in there for a moment before she slowly pulls it back*

Octavia starts leaning in for a hug but Stella quickly hugs her first, Via is surprised but than happy to finally see her mom feel something positive again.

The lights over the other half of the stage light up showing Striker holding the crystal he was sent to get, he's seen at least part of their exchange, and though he tries to hide it, has obviously been emotionally impacted by it himself.

Striker: I-uh-I ha- *His voice is noticeably warbly before he clears his throat* I have the crystal, ma'am. *He holds it up and pauses for a moment while processing the emotions brought on from seeing such a loving moment from people he'd dismissed as emotionally vacant and vapid husks up until that point* Jus' thought ya should know.

Stella thanks him but also makes a comment about how Via likely won't be using it very long. She than asks Via to remind her of what part of the disguise spell she was having trouble with.

The stage goes dark as everyone and everything is prepared for the next scene.

And that's where the scene stands for now. Really hope someone enjoys reading this as much as I did writing it, there's more HRM to come so keep your eyes peeled! And remember that I'm accepting asks about the project!

To clarify, I love Mammon as is, but part of that is that despite fitting the scummy producer stereotype and being a fun villain, he still undeniably has depth and nuances, we just don't see them in detail because his debut stars someone he's very toxic to.

I doubt Mam will be given the focus that properly exploring those complexities would require, and am slightly frustrated that not a single moment is given to properly address the nuances of his character in the special that bares his name.

Never the less, I still consider him to be not just the best character in season 2, but the best character in the whole franchise.

ALL HAIL MAMMON!

The two biggest songs from Mammons is two girls saying bitch over and over and the other is a guy saying fuck over and over

This really is a show for edgy teens…