I Request More Golden Goose, Thank You Kindly

I request more golden goose, thank you kindly

I've actually been meaning to get some more Golden Goose stuff out, but was fighting myself over whether to post something on it's own or officially start my GoldenGooseVerse.

So here's some stuff I can share without spoiling anything:

Stella frequently tries new hobbies and takes a particular liking to sculpting. Her first attempts were supposed to be small vases that she wanted to gift to people close to her. Even though they turned out somewhat lopsided, Mammon, Via, Andre, Camio and Furfur all kept them and use them as pen holders.

Via and Mammon's main form of bonding is playing guitar together. They workshop songs, talk about (and often bash) new songs they've heard recently, and just chat about their day, their interests and life in general. When they first started doing this, Octavia would sometimes have moments of "Wait, is this real life, right now?", because she wasn't used to having this form of positive experience with a paternal figure.

Before Mam and Stella officially started their relationship, Stella would often talk to her friends about her recent bonding with Mammon. Whilst Furfur was completely on board, Camio was slightly apprehensive about the whole situation, she wanted to be sure Stella's past traumas weren't making her see Mam through rose-tinted glasses. Because of this, she once asked Stella to invite Mammon to one of the friend group's meetings, Mam agreed and shortly afterwards befriended Camio and Furfur, as well.

Mammon takes more of an interest in improving Greed's Goetic social circles for 2 main reasons: 1) He wants to create an environment that would make it easier for Octavia to socialize with her peers and 2) He wants to give Stella some autonomy as a ruler and involves her in these reforms to ease her into it before officially making her the ultimate authority on any Goetic matter in the Greed ring, as well as it's Goetic representative.

There more on the way, it'll be more complex and take some time, but I promise it'll be good.

So,

I feel weird about Stolas x Blitzo. First of all, they are technically not childhood friends. They hung out for one day and did not see each for more than twenty years. Blitzo probably didn’t think about Stolas for years. Stolas was the one who remembered Blitzo despite not seeing him for years.

Think about that!

Imagine hanging out with someone for a day as a kid and still thinking about them for more than twenty years. Isn’t that a little weird? Also, Stolas technically doesn’t have to be with Blitzo now. He is a gay man who is single, rich and young(people in their 30s are still young) . Even if it doesn’t work out with Blitzo, he can easily date someone else. No one is stopping him.

You're preaching to the choir. Stolitz never clicked with me and I always saw it as messed up, but I didn't mind it's presence since the show made me think that it being messed up was going to be addressed.

The childhood friendship was retconned in to make it seem more palatable, but, ironically only made it worse.

Doing my bit for the good of this amazing franchise.

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Ohh yeah I like the bone tag more! That's great

Also pff, yeah. Pump's dumb little voice my beloved

Yeah, he's adorable.

Glad you liked my idea for the tag, would like to talk about SS more soon

This made me think about him saying "I'm still not a good person" when he abandons Paul and Emma after promising to be better, emphasis on still, as in, not yet. He wanted to become a good person.

After Peter and Charlotte, the most important person to Ted at the time was Paul, who for all Ted knew, was sure to die when "Greg" grabbed him. As far as he new, he had no more reason to hope for any part of his life from earlier in that day still being intact.

I think Ted booked it for the helicopter, not just to survive, but to get a fresh start. And live a good live both for himself and for the loved ones he lost.

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It's important to note that when asked in an interview "How did the world of LN get this way?" Dave Mervik responded: "It's what you get when you spend hunders/thousands [can't remember which he said] of years ignoring that question."

I think the Nowhere is a more "primal" realm, one that is majorly effected by the minds and perceptions of those in it. This is why the residents are all named after what they are and/or what they do.

The Nowhere is a sentient, parasitic, almost colonial organism-like dimension that needs to force itself into being perceived to sustain itself, yet in doing so, it only becomes more and more horrific. It's horrors being accepted as a status quo only further warps it, that's why it wants children, they have yet to learn a status quo, it wants them to change it, but it's own corruption sabotages that.

I was thinking about the old LN1 character bios and remembered the line about the Twins being "born to be chefs". Assuming their not native to Nowhere, this would mean they had some violent tendencies before becoming residents, like it was their destiny.

This then made think about the end of tson ep 3 where Otto says the something like "Our world isn't the only world, let alone the predominant one".

All this made me realize that the worlds other than Nowhere may have been created by it (The Nowhere is implied to be sentient in it's own right) specifically to create concepts and injustices that could be used to warp and traumatize children, turning them into visitors and then into residents.

Thoughts?

Alright so this is a great question that I think leads to a much larger discussion about how the Nowhere operates. I would like to hear what other peeps think as well.

So, starting from the Chefs. Personally I always assumed that they are part of that group of characters who are from the Nowhere because of the way their description is worded (and also their baby pictures... this one is so cute lowkey...)

--- But following your train of thought: considering what we know of the Nowhere, it seems to amplify certain characteristics of a person, usually the bad ones. Two kids who are a bit propense to get into fights in the waking world may very well become blood thirsty maniacs in the Nowhere.

Interestingly, the modification of traits does not only apply to personality but also the body -- and usually, the physical changes are in relation back to said traits. For example, the Teacher - someone who is known to be controlling - can extend her neck infinitely to look everywhere and have the ability to blink removed to make sure she's always watching. The Doctor, a perfectionist with tons of authority, is always looking down on people while also growing enormous to match his ego. So on and so forth, you can follow this reasoning for a large number of the Residents we meet.

I think other timelines derivating from the Nowhere is definitely a possibility, as we don't know much of how the universes work there.

The general theory of a multiverse irl is that no timeline has any specific weight or importance over others; they are all parallel no matter how different, with no timeline being "the real one". This is if we view the Nowhere under the lens of it being a separate dimension. In TSON, the Nowhere is kind of implied to be sucking the people most vulnerable to it right in, so perhaps the idea Otto has of it the predominant world stems from the fact that he can't explain his fascination with it... or from a real, genuine desire to somehow "return" to the original land, if that's where the other timelines originated from.

HOWEVER, I would like to offer an alternative perspective on this --- based on what I found out during my research on the Ladies. Yup we're going there again

Rather than the characters themselves, this time I'm going to refer to a symbolism that is very prominent in their lore: Buddhism. More specifically the references to the six planes of existance, and how those can be tied back to Little Nights in a loose way. As stated in this site:

" The six realms of rebirth are a schema in which beings are reborn according to the kind of life they lived. [...] The animal realm, in which inhabitants are driven by basic needs, is one of the three “lower” realms. The other two are the hell realm, a place of constant suffering and torment, and the realm of the hungry ghosts, grasping beings who are never satisfied. The three “higher” realms are the human realm [...] the demigod realm [...] and the god realm, where beings enjoy a life of pleasure. It’s important to note that some Buddhists view the realms as literally real, while others interpret them psychologically as metaphors for the emotional states of the human condition. "

(Click on the link to read the whole thing; I only highlighted the parts I think are relevant to this conversation :] )

What I believe specifically relates back to the Nowhere are the three lower realms, from which the place itself may be loosely inspired by because of how its inhabitants are described.

All of these are things we see in Little Nights from various Residents, depending on the social class and place. It is important to note that while these realms are placed in different hierarchies due to quality of life, they all cohexist together without necessarily being more important than each other as they all have the same purpose in the end.

If the worlds of Little Nights operate in a similar way, then what we're looking at is not really a case of dimension hopping, but rather a passage from a plane of existance to the next. A forced one at that, at least in the case of Noone.

Now, considering Otto's assumption, the idea of the Nowhere being a predominant realm only popped up because he was trying to wrap his head around it and how Noone felt, but to tell you the truth, it is a rather baseless assumption considering he's never been there and is only experiencing it in a very limited way. However... considering how many children from different places in time and space have experienced the Nowhere, sometimes even simultaneously, I wouldn't say that it's completely wrong to assume that the place might be the "original plane of existance".

Now. Reflecting on what you said at the very end, I would like to ask a question back: do you think the Nowhere is, hypothetically, only capable of bringing out the worst in people inherently? Or is it only acting this way because humanity itself is more easily conditioned to fall victim to their bad traits?

I've been recently thinking about it because of the Maw. The writer of Little Nightmares, Mr. Mervik, has stated multiple times over the years that the place has not always been the way that it is; at the same time, he also said that it was not man made, but rather created by collective hunger/desire to be fed. These two things don't make sense together unless you assume the Maw was not originally born for the Guests and the whole cannibal business, but rather from a desire of shelter. A need to be fed. Which is not inherently a bad thing -- and it would explain why the structure itself is so largely built to house so many people, and why children still feel relatively safe in it to this day.

So I find myself thinking that perhaps, the Maw degenerated overtime because the people inside of it (cough its leaders cough) did. And if this is the case for the Maw, who's to say it's not the same for other places? The Nest, for example? The School, the Hospital... etc. But. It is also true that the creatures who inhabit the Nowhere (the Ferryman, the North Wind, the Flesh...) all seem to have their own interests and destructive amusement more at heart than anything. If these creatures are what move the large of the Nowhere (which I guess they are considering the eye symbol is all over the goddman place), then the human will can't really do much.

That being said, I am wondering currently if it could be possible for the Nowhere to bring out something good from a person in the right situation. At the same time, the hopes are incredibly slim. Nonexistent, actually, but it's nice to think about hypothetics.