Can We Talk More About The Transitional Phase Between Normie And Alternative? Because We All Did Some

Can we talk more about the transitional phase between normie and alternative? Because we all did some corny shiz back then. Very poser behavior. And I think we all need to talk about it. Cleanse our souls.

I feel like the "I call myself emo but I don't even understand what that means" starter pack is a tattoo choker, a pair of black plain cross earrings and a band tee for a wildly popular rock band that isn't even really emo like AC/DC or Misfits or something. Or that Nirvana t-shirt, you know the one I'm talking about. If I see that shirt one more time, I'm gonna puke.

It's like you looked around Walmart for anything at all black so you could fit in with the edgy kids at school. It's like those "emo transformation" TikToks but... but this isn't a game to you, this is normal Tuesday behavior. Who is three or four years deep into alt culture and still wearing this outfit? Cuz I wore this outfit when I was probably thirteen... for about a year... never again. Also had a leather jacket that you could not peel off my body. I ran that thing into the ground.

Don't even get me started on how we all labeled everything "emo" that clearly was not- especially music. Who was gonna tell us emo was not a synonym for edgy and sad?

Anyways, I ended up donating those cross earrings to a nearby blossoming baby bat and burned the tattoo chokers a LOOONG time ago. They no longer have power over me. I'm a free woman.

Got any funny baby bat/puppy punk/poser days stories or thoughts? I need this.

New goths are baby bats.

New punks are puppy punks.

So what do we call the newbies in the other subcultures? Grunge, emo, scene, metalhead... I always use "baby bat" as an umbrella term but we can get more creative than that. Put your ideas in the comments!

I was in highschool during the start of the scene kids days. A Day to Remember, Suicide Silence, BVB, FIR, all that shit. I was DEFINITELY poser-looking because my folks were hardcore religious and had to be sneaky about my appearance. Sucked that it was hard to make friends because, understandably, I 1000% came off as a poser but it was sort of fun to blindside them with my music knowledge. By the time I graduated and moved out my taste had evolved to proper metal and went full on metalhead now that I had control of my appearance. Almost immediately had people from my highschool trying to call me out as a poser or some had said "wow I never knew you were into that" haha. Trying to find your way in highschool is a rough fuckin ride.

Amen... and don't even get me started on middleschool... how did we even survive that???? Lol.

Thanks for sharing!

I. HATE. This. Mentality.

NOT EVERYONE HATES THEIR BODY AS IS.

NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO LOSE WEIGHT.

Can we denormalize congratulating people for loss of weight without even ASKING if the weight loss was intentional? Can we denormalize commenting on others' bodies in general? IM SO SICK OF IT.

Crazy I saw this post... my teacher and I were chatting after class today. She asked mid conversation if she could make a comment about my appearance. I told her that was fine and she proceeded to say "I've noticed this year you've gotten leaner" and then waited for my reaction. I responded "Yeah! I was trying to lose about 30 pounds, I achieved it." THEN my teacher gave her thoughts about it.

If you're going to talk about others' bodies, this is how it should be done. First, be sure they're comfortable hearing the comment or having the conversation in general. Then make a NEUTRAL observation on the loss of weight and see their reaction. Determine whether it's a positive or negative development in their life first. Always.

You never know when you could be fueling the fires of an eating disorder when you were just trying to give a compliment.

I once lost about ten pounds from sickness. When I went to tell my aunt the bad news, I didn't get past the first sentence before she congratulated me. I had to inform her that I lost the weight because I couldn't stop throwing up.

Thin privilege is assuming weight loss is a universally good thing.

^^^

It's so bizarre to me that I never see anyone talking about or addressing this, so I will.

TX2 is a popular upcoming emo/pop punk artist. He is phenomenal singer, has a great sound- mountains of potential. There's a couple songs by him I enjoy. However, all that being said, he makes me sick.

He makes frequent jokes about depression and self harm on his YouTube channel- creating skits that treat these real and horrible issues like humor. While doing this he also fuels the stigma of associating the emo subculture with self harm.

He is releasing a song called "Walking Dead Man." The subject of it is a friend of his that died of an overdose. Needless to say, this is a very deep and sensitive topic. The loss of a soul should be revered and honored. Every decent person can agree it's a serious conversation to have. Not a joke.

Yet here he is, releasing comedy skits centered around the song with captions like "IS THIS THE SADDEST EMO SONG OF ALL TIME?!" It's disgusting. One of these skits showed a friend of his listening to it and responding "I think I have depression!"

What an oversimplification and invalidation of mental illness. Also during these skits he makes comments like "You're not emo if you've never hurt yourself!" If this is supposed to be satire, it is not clear enough. I chalked it up as an attempt at satire and self depreciation humor until the release of his recent skits on the topic of overdose. It's disrespectful, it's hurtful and it's toxic.

Another thing that bothers me is a song of his called "Randy McNally (No Love Like Christian Hate." I think the title alone says enough, but I'll continue.

I would like to start this discussion by directly quoting the lyrics of the song:

"There's no love like Christian hate. Let's all count down 'till judgment day."

"I know you want us fags to burn in flames."

"Put a bullet in a kid's head, they think they got the sickness if they're not dressed up straight."

I don't talk about politics much on here because I'm an Anarchist. I believe that it's best to stay out of that mess and most productive to work on changing the world how you can in your own life, without the involvement of government. Now, that being said, you already know how I feel about politicians. I'm not at all familiar with the politician he is speaking of here. That's not what I have an issue with. What I have an issue with is this MASSIVE generalization!

He's accusing my people of hate when he's the one releasing a song disrespecting me and my Jesus! There's one verse where he says in a mocking tone "Do you think Jesus loves me?"

YES TX2, I DO!

I'm aware there are Christians who act hateful towards the LGBTQ community. Some Christians believe homosexuality is moral and some believe it isn't. Regardless of what you believe, there's two main commandments God gives us in the Bible. Everything about our lifestyle can be summed up in two rules: Love God and love each other. So the people wanting to shoot gay boys for wearing a skirt? They're not true Christians. The Bible strictly forbids murder in the ten commandments. That's not Christianity! That's using my Jesus to justify your violence.

And by the way, I'm a big supporter for cross dressing. I wear suits and whatnot all the time, it's what I feel best in, and I think everyone (gay or straight!) should wear what they feel best in.

Now, there are Christians and Muslims alike who respectfully don't participate in or don't support homosexual people's lifestyles. That isn't hate. There's nothing hateful about choosing not to participate in something for religious reasons IF you do not hurt or be hateful towards those who do. It's all about mutual respect. If people choose not to support LGBTQ in order to better serve their God and live their life, you need to respect it. Just like Christians and Muslims should respect the fact that some people are attracted to the same sex or have pronouns that are not typical "he" or "she."

So, in summary, he is recklessly defending trans rights yet he is being disrespectful towards and dumbing down the struggles of the mentally ill. He is propagating and worsening already crippling stereotypes for both Christians and emos, all the while acting like some social justice savior. You don't have to bring some groups of people down to lift other groups up.

Equality, not revenge. Love, not hate.

That's true social justice.

That's uncensored, raw, authentic punk.

That's what I believe.