Literally Everyone From Blitz's Past Will Have Two More Episodes, At Best, And Then Their Stories Will

Literally everyone from Blitz's past will have two more episodes, at best, and then their stories will just be used as fodder to force drive Blitz to "make things right" with Stol-ass, bleugh. Fizz was a really interesting character to think about, but it's clear that the genuinely solid parts of his story were grafted onto the Stolitz "arc" and that his own story is essentially already over. :(

The best thing that came out of the series' detour into FizzarOzzie for the last two episodes is the unmatched perfection that is Mammon.

People are talking about a Fizz centric spin off and I think that’s a really bad idea he and Oz are great but I just do not trust that their writing wouldn’t go off the deep end into shit territory

Yeah yea, it'll definitely be something

Something I also thing could be interesting with this theory is that Rick worked at the post office in between SM4 and SM5, according to those Mother's Day and Father's Day illustrations Pelo made last year

Yeah, iirc that's where his last name was revealed.

Pretty sure you mentioned this before at some point, but I think it's kind of weird that Roy Against Society is basically the only fanwork that plays with the cultist Rick idea.

Any thoughts on the revised version in comparison to the version we discussed, @pinkandpurple360?

I'd really appreciate any feedback. :)

The part of HRM I've had the most fun developing

There's a particular part of Helluva Rewritten Musical that I've been thinking about more than any other. That being the sequence that focuses on Stella and Octavia's relationship and personal issues while their hiding out in Wrath.

Some of this I've only previously shared with @pinkandpurple360 , whose insights about HB's writing and general willingness to help me develop these ideas has been invaluable to HRM as a whole, and especially to this scene.

Bare in mind this is just an early outline, though I plan to keep the specific lines of dialogue as I'm really proud of it.

The sequence begins with Stella, Octavia and Striker entering a hideout Striker had prepared for the Goetia women while they were in hiding with him as their bodyguard. Towards the back of the stage there's a door slightly to the left and a couch slightly to the right.

Stella is very anxious as she recognized Blitz in an earlier scene and decides that for the remainder of their "exile" that she and Via have to disguise themselves as lower rank hellborns, something Octavia says she doesn't know how to do.

This revelation infuriates Stella as she lashes out in indignation that Via can't manifest a disguise, she says she'll explain it to Via later but that in the meantime, Striker has to find a succubus and off them for their asmodean crystal.

Striker nods and exits the scene.

Here Octavia reveals that she tried to learn on her own but couldn't get the hang of it and, due to his self-absorbed and neglectful nature, Stolas never actually helped her manifest a disguise, something Stella herself only learnt by watching her brother practice, as typically only a Goetia's heir is taught the skill.

Stella yells at Via that she needs a moment to collect her thoughts and that they'll back to the disguise talk later.

Stella then goes into another room in the hideout, something depicted with Stella walking through the door at the back of the stage as Via exits stage right, then Stella re-enters through the same door, representing her entering another room and the scene changing.

Here the show arrives at Stella's solo number, wherein she vents her frustration that she's never been listened to despite being a noble, during the song she comes to the realization she isn't frustrated that she hasn't been listened to, but that she's never had meaningful agency over what matters to her (her status, the respect of the Ars Goetia, etc...), except for her relationship with Via.

I've yet to come up with any satisfactory titles for Stella's song, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

After the song ends Stella decides that she has to smooth things over with Via. The scene changes in the same way as before, this time, while Stella is behind the door Via enters stage right, sitting down on the couch, frustrated trying to manifest a disguise. Her attempts are represented by brief moments of purple lighting illuminating her corner of the stage, that's when Stella enters and sit down next to her. The lights only illuminate there half of the stage.

The two talk about the frustration they've been suppressing for as long as they've been living with Stolas, which unfortunately for Via, includes her whole life up to that point, she also expresses anger at her mother and how distant she's been during the affair drama. This gets Stella emotional and prompts this exchange between them:

Stella: I just hope you can understand, Dear. All I've ever had is my place in the world, and now-now I've lost my own and cost you yours. * Stella rests her head in one of her hands as the other stays between her and Via on the couch* What could I ever have now? *Stella's voice is shaky and she clearly feels she's lost everything, she's on the verge of tears*

There's a moment of silence between the two

Octavia: *Takes hold of Stella's free hand and gently moves it over her chest* A place in my heart, mom. You'll always have that. *She lets go of her mother's hand but Stella holds in there for a moment before she slowly pulls it back*

Octavia starts leaning in for a hug but Stella quickly hugs her first, Via is surprised but than happy to finally see her mom feel something positive again.

The lights over the other half of the stage light up showing Striker holding the crystal he was sent to get, he's seen at least part of their exchange, and though he tries to hide it, has obviously been emotionally impacted by it himself.

Striker: I-uh-I ha- *His voice is noticeably warbly before he clears his throat* I have the crystal, ma'am. *He holds it up and pauses for a moment while processing the emotions brought on from seeing such a loving moment from people he'd dismissed as emotionally vacant and vapid husks up until that point* Jus' thought ya should know.

Stella thanks him but also makes a comment about how Via likely won't be using it very long. She than asks Via to remind her of what part of the disguise spell she was having trouble with.

The stage goes dark as everyone and everything is prepared for the next scene.

And that's where the scene stands for now. Really hope someone enjoys reading this as much as I did writing it, there's more HRM to come so keep your eyes peeled! And remember that I'm accepting asks about the project!

That could've worked, also maybe ditch Crim's homophobia/biphobia and just make him resent Moxxie for relying on weapons.

Then, later, during the climax, Moxxie takes out most of his dad's goons when one manages to knocks his weapon away, which is when Millie joins in and this makes Moxxie realizes that he should at least try to improve in hand-to-hand. This would explain how he was able to take out the random biker gang in Western Energy, which always felt weird to me, like we missed something telling us that Mox didn't want to just rely on weapons.

Maybe make it a point that Moxxie is the one to spare Crimson, simply to not give him the satisfaction of the last thing he sees being his son being as raging and ruthless as he is.

Fixing this show's issues is so easy, fixing a problem gives you the perfect setup to fix two or three more, almost like you're reverse engineering how it was fucked up in the first place.

And now, by literally no one's demand, Another Reason Why Crimson Doesn't Quite Work!

So you know the song and dance about Moxxie always being called fat, but did you know what Crim looked like in the beat boards?

A hairy, hulking brute with a more modern fashion sense. This design makes him feel powerful, an active and competent threat. Also notice that Alessio, his bodyguard, seemingly didn't exist yet and weapons were a more prominent motif in his house at this point in production.

But Spindlehorse didn't go with this design, they made him a slightly taller version of his son, who is constantly mocked for his "weight", might I ad, with thicker legs and gave him a bodyguard. They made him a "fatter" pretentious blowhard who needs his cronies to do everything for him.

Maybe this is more weird fatphobia from Spindlehorse, or maybe this was just done to justify him hiring Striker in Oops. Hell, maybe the Crim and Chaz stories were originally 2 different episodes, that would actually explain a lot about the final product. Either way, I we confident that the original version of Crimson Knolastname would have been a much stronger villain, both figuratively and literally.

Look at Blitz smiling obliviously, he’s so cute and silly as always. It’s kinda weird in hindsight that they didn’t just have Loona call in sick or something her absence wasn’t really explained. I know the VA was on break but the writers didnt come up with anything for it.

Ughh it bothers me so much to hear all the potential creativity and original ideas/stories we could’ve had. So many creative minds on the team and it all gets drafted to be a sausage party episode with funnee fuck jokes~

He’s way better there. Sans stache because everyone seems to have the same stache as Striker and he’s better original. I still feel like he’s unnecessary. Moxie was born in wrath grew up in wrath and both his parents were still alive originally, so rewriting his story is really stupid. I actually don’t even know why Crimson couldn’t be a wrath ring imp mafia. Why greed?

The concept probably didn’t have the creepy and ridiculous ‘forced gay marriage’ plot either. That was so incredibly stupid and senseless. That said I really enjoyed most of the episode, the setting was really cool, the green saturated colors and dark lighting were really threatening. But it had to go and make this all about penises…I’m embarrassed that I watch this show sometimes.

I honestly cant comment on the weight thing, I don’t really see the point being made there.

It would've been great if Mam actually sang a song that's clearly following the template of Ozzie and Bee's songs. BUT immediately after that we see Mammon backstage, lamenting that the formulaic dribble was more successful than any song he was actually passionate about writing and preforming.

They had a perfect chance to explore the innate complexities of a character who's the manifestation of opportunistic behavior, something that shines through the writing despite Vivienne going out of her way to make Mam seem one-dimensional. He's such a great character that even this show's writing can't botch him too bad.

But why try something that ambitious and thought provoking when you could just make him a typical "fat and sleazy agent/producer who mistreats the talent under him"?

The two biggest songs from Mammons is two girls saying bitch over and over and the other is a guy saying fuck over and over

This really is a show for edgy teens…

I have a theory that the plot of the episode will have another demon come to town looking for Moloch, explaining how both Patty and Gregor get possessed and also prevent Pelo from breaking his rule about not having a character (Moloch) be the big bad of more than one episode.

In case you haven't figured it out, I think Elusive will voice the new demon. (This also might explain his post about Pelo knowing that the new episode is going to cause a lot of shipping, since they both knew Moloch x new demon would be popular).

ELUSIVEVA (JACK, ROSS AND KEVIN'S VA) RETWEETED THIS POST ABOUT THE MANNEQUIN MOVING

LOWKEY THINK HE KNOWS SOMETHING + MIGHT VOICE SKIDDAD