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Bee is really the most evil, when you think about it - written by a Mammon kinnie

Now, I know this is gonna read like me being a Mammon apologist (because I am) but this is something I've been meaning to bring to light for a while now. I believe that Beelzebub is the most evil Sin, at least of the ones we've seen so far.

Bee might seem very approachable and friendly, but this is exactly what makes that much worse than she otherwise would be.

The main thing here is the hellhound pound system, which is, at least in my eyes, the most horrific piece of worldbuilding we've gotten in the series. An entire sentient species being treated like pets and kept in squalled conditions within a framework created and overseen by their ruler and likely creator, someone who is for all intents and purposes, their god.

Thought not confirmed, it's implied hounds that age out of the system are just straight up euthanized. Again, this has yet to be confirmed, but it definitely doesn't help Beelze's case.

And what exactly becomes of Gluttony-born hellhounds who survive the pounds and get adopted? Why their love bombed with parties where their "benevolent" mistress uses their positive emotions to make a substance that can form dependency in demons the way alcohol can in humans just so she's even better off. Either that or they end up adopted by someone who just uses them as expendable muscle.

At this point I'm sure someone is saying that Mammon is still worse, and they'll likely point to the general state of Greed, being a polluted over-industrialized mess. But this just raises another point in my favor.

Unlike Mammon, who's upfront about only caring about his citizens' money, Bee puts on the persona of being a ruler of the people, not above them. She makes Gluttony seem so idyllic while also basing a contender for Hell's most deplorable enterprise out of it.

Beelzebub is such an adept manipulator that she gets Loona to come out of her shell, when Loona's closed of nature was spawned from her trauma that Bee's pounds are responsible for in the first place! For all we know, this also applies to Vortex, I mean, something had to blind him in one eye, perhaps a fight with a former cellmate?

And worst of all, she herself doesn't seem consciously aware of it, she may genuinely see nothing wrong with the conditions her subjects live in, likely because she judges their quality of life based on their "vibes" at her parties.

I just want to end this saying that I don't hate Bee, nor do I think Vivienne intended for people to infer these things, knowing her, it's likely she just didn't fully consider the implications while writing. But it is still a valid interpretation of Beelzebub's character based on what we presently know about her.

Honestly the show lost me on Ozzie x fizz (as well as stolitz had everything from circus onwards not killed it it for me) when bee and Tex were revealed to be a thing, not only that, but happily and proudly in a relationship, which means Ozzie (And by extension Stolas) should have nothing to fear from Mammon or Stella respectively

Honestly Both Stolas and Ozzie should sod off, Blitz and Fizz deserve to be together, as do Mammon and Stella

I think the thing with Ozzie is that as the Sin of Lust, he's supposed to stay out of formal relationships so being with Fizz might contradict his duties. Whilst Stolas is mostly (and rightfully) in trouble for cheating on his wife (yes, it does count as cheating even though you were arranged, you gangly, feathery jizz-rag) and loaning a goetic artifact out to an imp. Bee's relationship with Tex doesn't negatively impact her performance as Sin of Gluttony and their isn't any m'guffin loaning going on, so they shouldn't have any problems.

While there is some questionable stuff involved in Fizzrozzie, most of it is not that serious and Fizz has two hands.

Stolas on the other hand, deserves to have his balls cut off and blended and then he should be forced to drink his own ball smoothie.

Glad you've joined the Golden Goose bandwagon, they're both awesome and are even more awesome together. Definitely have plans for more Mam x Stella stuff.

hi

I don’t know if you will believe me but I was the one who sent the ask about Mammon being charismatic and Fizz becoming hated.

I didn’t think anyone would like the idea. Thank you for liking it.

I would also be interesting if the other sins actually tried to convince Asmodeus to dump Fizz. Their relationship would become so hated that it would cause so much bad publicity to anyone famous who supported Asmodeus. I don’t know.

Sorry for forgetting this existed, had a few messy days.

Pretty neat idea you had!

The idea of the others turning on Ozz for going public with his relationship with Fizz is fascinating, I think it would be better if, instead of worrying about their own images, they all have their own reason for their advice and their own advice. Maybe Leviathan would care about the effect on their own image, Bee might be worried about how this could effect her and Tex too.

Might be more to this in the future, who knows!

My summarized thoughts on season 2B after the trailer

The Full Moon

I think this episode will mostly just be character interactions with a double cliffhanger ending, IMP getting in trouble and the royal hearing with the Sins and Goetia to address Stol-ass being a fucking bellend, so he's also in deep shit.

Apology Tour

Directly continuing from TFM, Blitz seeks help from Fizz in the midst of the crisis and IMP become temp staff Ozzie's factory. It all goes wrong and a fight with a robot made of factory equipment follows.

There's also interaction with Blitz and Verosika early on, which leads to Stol-ass having Verosika and Tex help him put on a performance to "apologize" to Blitz.

Ghostfuckers

Blitz and Millie somehow end up being hired as ghost hunters by a sleazy hotel owner who's actually the ghost and runs the hotel to have a steady supply of people to torment.

I think this episode will mostly be an excuse to explore the lore of "What if a sinner went to Earth via a portal?", with some emotional bits as the hotel owner tries getting at the imp's psychologically as well as physically.

Mastermind

After the hotel owner is defeated and sent back to Hell, the agents get reports of the disappearance of, what everyone nearby believed to be, a normal person.

They investigate and try to trap the imps, but catch the cherubs instead and then team up with them to attack IMP.

Sinsmas

The verdict on the hearing from TFM is in and Stol-ass loses everything, he tries to get Via to go against the verdict and come with him, and to abandon Stella and Andre. But after a big climactic fight with Andrealphus, it turns out Octavia rightfully wants nothing to do with her sad shitsack of a father and the season ends on a "all is lost" moment for him.

I let my Stolas hate shine a lot more here than I would've liked, but I just can't help it, he's the one issue I have with the series on the whole!

⚠️HELLUVA BOSS EPISODE 8 SEASON 1 THEORY⚠️

This isn't canon! It's a theory of mine!!!

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Okay so most of us saw the new episode of Helluva Boss right? We saw Beelzebub herself in the new episode.There are people who are surprised about her not being mean like Asmodeus(Ozzie) and some were just not expecting it.So my theory is that Beelzebub is somehow neutral but she can't control herself sometimes.Like in here we see her getting bigger when Loona tried defending Blitzø

Then Loona looks over to Tex and she surprised that he doesn't say something.In episode 3 of season 1,Tex seems like the tough guy you don't wanna mess with but this makes me think.Does he act tough to everyone else except Beelzebub cuz he knows what she's capable of? Due to her being one of the rulers of hell? Or did Beelzebub do something to Tex,which makes him act like that when Beelzebub gets angry?

Let's not forget that Tex is also missing his eye/has a scar on his eye?It might also have been from an accident Tex had before being in a relationship with Bee

Again this is all a theory! I feel like Tex cares about Bee but he's concerned about her when she gets angry

Was no one gonna tell me that Asmodeus, Vortex, and Zestial were voiced by THE James Monroe Iglehart?! As in, Oogie Boogie from The Nightmare Before Christmas?! I feel betrayed that I didn't know this!

are you glad vortex had a girlfriend?

Oh boy, I feel like A LOT of people are gonna hate me for saying this…..

BUT-

Yes. The first reason was because before episode 3 came out, I was already shipping Loona with someone else. (No, it’s not Octavia. It’s not ANY of the Helluva Boss Characters, It’s a character from Hazbin Hotel.)

When it comes to ships, I basically just pick a ship, and stick with it. Sometimes I don’t understand it when people lose interest in their ship and say “Oh yeah, I don’t ship that anymore, I actually ship this now”, when that happens, I’m just like “Wait, how? How do you do that?” I honestly LOVE the ships I already have, when new ships come by, I’m just not interested. I’m STILL a Stolitz shipper, even when Striker exist. (Also I have stories and Headcanons making Stolas a better person.)

So, yeah, with this Loona and Vortex ship, I was kinda just doing everything in my power to avoid seeing it, cause like, I was sick of seeing it everywhere. I was still in love with my Loona and Crymini ship. (Yup, that’s who I ship her with. )

Now, obviously, Crymini is aged up when I ship her with Loona, because, I think the last time I checked, she was a teenager and Loona was a young Adult. But, I could be wrong, maybe Crymini isn’t a teen? Idk, things have changed with Hazbin a lot.

But, anyways, I kinda like the idea of Vortex being like a big brother and seeing Loona as a sister. He was so nice to her and wants to help her get friends!

I’m shipping Vortex with his girlfriend. (I actually drew a picture on what I think Vortex’s girlfriend looks like, I told myself I wasn’t going to do that though, because I was gonna end up being upset when she doesnt end up looking like how I imagined, but, I like to torture myself, so I drew it anyways, maybe I’ll post it on Tumblr sometimes. But that’s not really important right now!)

This post is a lot longer than it should be, so, the short answer should’ve just been Yes.

I made Vortex’s girlfriend.

I didn’t want to draw what I imagined her looking like, because I was thinking about how sad I’m gonna be when we get a canon design for her (if ever).

But, HERE! This is her!

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