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DP x DC Prompt

Here’s a thought. So, Danny ends up in the DC verse somehow. And somehow it comes out that Danny is the only hero back home. So the League is telling him how there are dozens of them, trying to be reassuring, like You’re not alone here.

And maybe others would feel that way. See all these heroes and be relieved. But Danny?

Danny is a hero because he has to be. Because no one else can defeat some of the enemies he regularly dealt with. He had to protect the people from ghosts and the ghosts from hunters. And he paid for it everyday. Lost time and sleep and grades. Relationships. His dreams.

His parents and the government want to destroy him. He had to listen to them call him a monster everyday. The town he bled for often blamed him. And he did it alone. Oh sure, his friends backed him up. But they were back up.

There might be bright spots but the hero life was largely a life of pain. But Danny did it anyway because what choice did he have? The world needed him to step up, so step up he did. And he gave it his all in the hope that no one else would have to.

So when Danny sees all of those heroes, it breaks his heart.

What happened to your world, he asks them, horrified. That it needs so many of you.

This is kind of a tangent, but here I go:

I feel like a lot of widely known books, movies, and tv shows have this kind of trope of something which inflicts pain or suffering of some kind, and frequently, it's not a tangible thing. I haven't thought this through, so please bear with me. A lot use some form of trauma flashbacks or ptsd, but also: Harry Potter, the crucio (?) curse; Keeper of the Lost Cities, ptsd, flashbacks, and the Ability to Inflict; The Hunger Games, ptsd, plus undescribed tech (i think) and some random triggers like the birds screaming in Catching Fire; Carmen Sandiego (Netflix), fictional technology;

You see where I'm going with this? There's this kind of trope with vague but pointed suffering. For vengestone to take that role makes sense to me, here are some general headcanons about how vengestone affects Lloyd:

As he gets closer (maybe starting at around a mile away) he starts to feel gravity more, like he weighs more and everything takes more energy.

Ways that manifests itself:

Walking slower

Slower reflexes

Talks less

More grumpy

Snaps at the others more

Also as he gets closer, he starts feeling physically sick

Getting sniffly

Coughing

Achey

Slightly higher temperature (until they're really close and then it's really bad)

Headaches

Really really close and he starts hallucinating, chills, dizzy, passing out, maybe this is just covid?

Maybe he kinda becomes the canary in a coal mine? Because everyone else's signs are more subtle, each of them just kinda feeling off, but Lloyd getting sick as they're walking?? Nah.

When dealing with vengestone, they also have to be more careful because Lloyd can't fight well Under The Influence and because he's already kinda sick, so injuries will take longer to heal later.

man I know a lot of us have individual headcanons for how vengestone affects certain elements right

Jay feeling like his element is built up and trying to burst out, Kai feeling as though the fire inside him has snuffed completely, Cole feeling cut off from the earth itself etc. etc. but I don’t see much about Lloyd

And yeah Lloyd’s true “element” is up for debate but I usually work under the assumption that Lloyd is the element of Life and Energy itself and man

Doesn’t it seem like that element in particular would not do well with vengestone

Don’t you think if someone who’s element is life itself is suddenly, forcibly, unnaturally cut off from said element…

Don’t you think they’d get sick

I mean we saw what happened when Lloyd felt cut off from his power in season 8. He got sick. He was almost dying. He literally needed the other elements that make up his power to lend him some of their own or else he would have died

I just think that’s verrrrrry interesting, don’t you? :)

Women hitting people in movies and books.

(This has been bouncing around in my head for a while but it's not like cohesive thoughts, so apologies)

There are the Molly Wesleys (Harry Potter), the Aunt Cass' (Big Hero 6, specifically after they get arrested), Katniss Everdeens (The Hunger Games, especially at the end of the first book), Emma from No Strings Attached, Grey's Anatomy (multiple different occurrences) and I know there are more but that's just off the top off my head.

There are these scenes where the woman gets so upset, usually because she's worried about someone, and hits the person. It never injures them, but she hits them and saying something like "how could you do this!! I was so worried about you!!" And it's played as just a sign of their concern and it's no big deal. But like ??

I haven't really come to a conclusion on where I stand on this, but it feels wrong. Like, it's not violence because they actually love the person??

Also please reblog because I have like 5 followers and I want more opinions 👍👍

Okay also, the woman never injures the other person, which implies women are weak and can't hurt someone whether or not they are trying, and it implies that it's okay to use violence so long as you're a woman and you care about them, which is kind of a mix of sexism and reverse sexism (by which I mean sexism against women vs sexism against men, but obviously everyone is harmed by any form of gender discrimination etc)

And the male version of these scenes is guys shaking the female (imo) because men can't hit women and be good guys, so media loopholes that by using shaking instead of hitting.

Oh and also Grey's anatomy. Multiple occurrences and people.

Women hitting people in movies and books.

(This has been bouncing around in my head for a while but it's not like cohesive thoughts, so apologies)

There are the Molly Wesleys (Harry Potter), the Aunt Cass' (Big Hero 6, specifically after they get arrested), Katniss Everdeens (The Hunger Games, especially at the end of the first book), and I know there are more but that's just off the top off my head.

There are these scenes where the woman gets so upset, usually because she's worried about someone, and hits the person. It never injures them, but she hits them and saying something like "how could you do this!! I was so worried about you!!" And it's played as just a sign of their concern and it's no big deal. But like ??

I haven't really come to a conclusion on where I stand on this, but it feels wrong. Like, it's not violence because they actually love the person??

Also please reblog because I have like 5 followers and I want more opinions 👍👍

My least favorite thing about multiple pov books, is how the author inevitably tries to switch povs consistently but there are always those parts where one pov is full of action and really interesting and the other (s) is soooo boring in comparison. And I have to force myself to not skip the boring povs temporarily, and I hate it

It also plays off of the hysterical woman stereotype and it normalizes violence as a form of love

Women hitting people in movies and books.

(This has been bouncing around in my head for a while but it's not like cohesive thoughts, so apologies)

There are the Molly Wesleys (Harry Potter), the Aunt Cass' (Big Hero 6, specifically after they get arrested), Katniss Everdeens (The Hunger Games, especially at the end of the first book), and I know there are more but that's just off the top off my head.

There are these scenes where the woman gets so upset, usually because she's worried about someone, and hits the person. It never injures them, but she hits them and saying something like "how could you do this!! I was so worried about you!!" And it's played as just a sign of their concern and it's no big deal. But like ??

I haven't really come to a conclusion on where I stand on this, but it feels wrong. Like, it's not violence because they actually love the person??

Also please reblog because I have like 5 followers and I want more opinions 👍👍

One of my favorite things about fandoms, is how people use their own areas of interest and knowledge to analyze and expound on media. Especially with children's or family media.

Like when people break down themes in Tangled and talk about the gaslighting or the way Mother Gothel tilts Rapunzel's head down to kiss her hair and pulled her hair out from behind her ear, whereas Flynn/Eugene tucks in behind her ear and tilts her head up to kiss her. Or point out details in The Hunger Games, like the bottles of whatever in Catching Fire that people in the Capitol drink so they vomit and can eat more and how that relates to the real world and how the wealthy 1% treats the needs of the lower class. Or the stereotypes and misrepresentations in Harry Potter.

And a different side of this same idea that I love, is how fandoms also grow the media. Not in fanart or fics or whatever (although i am a huge fan of that,) I'm thinking more about how people interact with characters. Adding to how characters think or feel or interact with each other. Like incorrect quotes, but also breaking down relationships and discussing how two characters depend on each other, things like that.

Thoughts about fandom culture:

Something really cute that fans do is when they adore the very very minor characters and give them fanart and fanfics and theories and storyline of their own. Sometimes I forget that some characters only had a few scenes because I see so much fan love for them.

A few examples are Brad (and to some degree Morro) from Lego Ninjago, Dex from KotLC, most of Harry Potter's friends, multiple characters in Carmen Sandiego (2020), Madge Undersee from The Hunger Games (although a lot of hunger games fics have friend groups with cato, clove, thresh, rue, etc; despite them not have much actual screen/page time), a fair number of Percy Jackson characters, and some others that I can't think of right now.

Like these characters have very limited screen/page time. And that's not to say they are unimportant or don't have impact on the story or other characters, but they get so little content about them but fandoms absolutely fall in love with these minor characters and its so precious to me

Here's another favorite fandom thing: when a mediocre artist posts art related to a fandom and the fans like and reblog and say encouraging things. I love that so much.

My least favorite thing about multiple pov books, is how the author inevitably tries to switch povs consistently but there are always those parts where one pov is full of action and really interesting and the other (s) is soooo boring in comparison. And I have to force myself to not skip the boring povs temporarily, and I hate it

Introduction to my blog:

I will blog and reblog whatever, but I do have a couple fandoms and a couple topics I come back to.

Recently it's been 90% six of crows.

Fandoms: Ninjago, The Hunger Games, The Queen's Thief (this'll randomly popup consistently, it's my #1 go to recommendation for everyone), Percy Jackson, Carmen Sandiego, Shadow and Bone/Six of Crows, Maxton Hall.

(I was updating my notes about fandom frequency and basically I'm not huge on fandom posting much anymore)

Topics: I love analyzing, including books, movies, media, fandoms. Sociology and psychology.

My posts are getting increasingly deranged.

I use the tag "no tags" for when I want to be able to find it later (maybe to delete)

Anything tagged #marsplastic is for my beloved @marsplastic13

Writing blog @olivevermore

is there a phrase for something being super in character? like a character does something that's so like them? I feel like there's a phrase but i can't think of it

joining a series fandom after the majority of it has been released sucks because you don't get to live theories and reactions and you risk spoilers, but it's also really nice because you don't have to worry so much about cliffhangers. You can go straight into the next book or season or movie without thinking about it for a year

I was thinking about value judgements and remembered someone took issue with me over this post so here I am again to say, "mediocre" doesn't have to refer to value. I'm a mediocre artist. I don't have much natural skill, I don't have much practice, my work really could be accomplished by a 12. But I have value. My work has value to some people. Being mediocre is not about the value. And that's what I love so much, how artists without so so much skill can share their work and other people in any given fandom will show up and support them, how people don't need to be the best in their medium to be appreciated.

Here's another favorite fandom thing: when a mediocre artist posts art related to a fandom and the fans like and reblog and say encouraging things. I love that so much.

This is a bit unrelated and I'm sorry to derail your post, but this feeling is so valid and I want to talk about it.

I can't say how many times my opinion of a piece of media or character or ship shifted negatively due to the fans. As a preteen/early teen, I read all of the Keeper of the Lost Cities books, I was on that side of Pinterest and I was on fandom, but I got so so tired of the fans that I dropped it altogether. The fans were so aggressive with their opinions I started getting anxious every time I looked at anything related to the fandom. And that's not an uncommon experience, for me or for fandoms. So many fandoms have this problem, where fans get so caught up in their opinions they refuse to participate in friendly dialogue and instead opt to get aggressive and insulting. And personally, I'm sick of it. I avoid most fandoms now. I don't join fandoms, I just consume the media privately and don't engage. And though there's nothing wrong with not being involved in a fandom, I think it's terrible that anyone should be made to feel as though they can't join in or that there is some kind of risk involved with participating in a fandom and having an opinion of their own about any given part of it.

If fandoms are communities that come together over shared enjoyment of a piece of media, why are people being mistreated, insulted, and made to feel unwelcome?

The Percabeth community SUCKS

Okay, I’m going to share something about this. The Percabeth fans suck.. especially when I post stuff that isn’t related to the ship. Anytime I talk about even something else, they unfollow me or block me. I posted a Valgrace piece and they unfollowed me. It makes me so mad considering I always have to talk about and share Percabeth art. I really wish I didn’t actually start drawing Percabeth because that ship is so overrated and overused. I do love it but I hate the fans of the ship.. I can’t even do anything. I can’t talk about my ocs or other ships.. it always has to be Percabeth this and Percabeth that.. Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth.

One of my biggest fanfiction pet peeves is when the author tries to write an au but include ALL of the same plot points as the book. Like nah i want an au, not a remix.

And obviously I'm not complaining complaining, i really appreciate writers. I saying it annoys me, but I'm not saying it's bad

Also Donna and Rachel in Suits. They're both supposed to be like Independent Strong Women but like ?? They slap male characters who are just, okay with it ?? But to mention s2e16 Rachel slapped Mike 2 times, goes for a third and he stops her, and they're both like yeah he's been lying for as long as you've known but like let's get back together

Women hitting people in movies and books.

(This has been bouncing around in my head for a while but it's not like cohesive thoughts, so apologies)

There are the Molly Wesleys (Harry Potter), the Aunt Cass' (Big Hero 6, specifically after they get arrested), Katniss Everdeens (The Hunger Games, especially at the end of the first book), and I know there are more but that's just off the top off my head.

There are these scenes where the woman gets so upset, usually because she's worried about someone, and hits the person. It never injures them, but she hits them and saying something like "how could you do this!! I was so worried about you!!" And it's played as just a sign of their concern and it's no big deal. But like ??

I haven't really come to a conclusion on where I stand on this, but it feels wrong. Like, it's not violence because they actually love the person??

Also please reblog because I have like 5 followers and I want more opinions 👍👍

In some fandoms, every fic has to be a fix it fic

Sometimes I read a book and get more excited about the fanfics than I do about the canon material

TikTokers are such pussies when it comes to ships. “B-but they’re not canon 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😖😖” honey back in my day we shipped characters from entirely different medias uphill both ways in the snow