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Happy Lesbian Visibility Week to "Controversial" Lesbians!
He/Him Lesbians Nonbinary Lesbians Male Lesbians and Lesboys Straightbians and Gaybians Mspec Lesbians AroAce Lesbians
"Controversial" lesbians are amazing and powerful and deserve space in the lesbian community
y'all are really valid and i love y'all :3
i love you bi lesbians i love you pan lesbians i love you omni lesbians i love you poly lesbians i love you abro lesbians i love you gaybians i love you straight lesbians i love you lesboys i love you trans men lesbians i love you turigirls
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! 📢📢
The queer community really normalized the words for fluidity and multigenderism but not the experiences at all.
I'm not the first to make this type of post, but I'm gonna go beyond just what the original said (and I'll edit this to include a link when I find the original again on my dash because it usually shows up once a week): we've normalize words like boygirl but most people haven't normalized actually being a boy and a girl, or a man and a woman, at the same time, and for fluidity they don't normalize actually being a boy or man and being a girl or woman at different times. Instead "boygirl" is just used like a label for androgyny or worse neutrality (nothing wrong with being neutral but being a boy and a girl is NOT that). We normalize the words bigender and genderfluid but never recognize them as actually having multiple genders. Bigender people are treated like half and half, and together androgynous or neutral instead of both of their genders at once, and genderfluid people are just seen like nonbinary people who use different pronouns and different times. We normalize the words but we don't normalize being sapphic and achillean, veldian and lesbian, a lesbian man or a veldian woman, straight and lesbian or straight and veldian. The things that are experienced by multigender people. We normalize the words but we don't allow bigender people to identify with anything other than "bigender" and we don't allow genderfluid people to identify with anything other than "genderfluid." If they want to label their orientations their options are mspec, trixic, toric, and enbian, and anything else is wrong. They're never allowed to say they're straight, and if they are allowed to be veldian/achillean or lesbian/sapphic (and they only get to pick one), they must degender themselves and pretend they don't experience womanhood or manhood.
Similarly, we normalize the word abrosexual but many don't allow abrosexuals to identify as anything but abro. They're not allowed to identify as any of the orientations they experience, even with some regularity. They might be allowed an mspec term - but they're never allowed to say they're veldians, or lesbians, and god forbid they identify as both. Even when they're experiencing being one of those things, it's not "allowed" for them to use the terms because the community deemed fluidity as not *really* the things they experienced because it's not permanent.
If we are gonna normalize the labels of multigender, genderfluid, and abrosexual can we actually get it in our heads that some people are multiple full genders at once, and if they're a man, a woman, and nonbinary, they are AS MUCH of a man as any monogender man, AS MUCH of a woman as any monogender woman, and JUST AS NONBINARY as any monogender enby? Can we get it though our heads that some people experience multiple full genders at different times, and they are AS MUCH of a man as any statically gendered man when they experience manhood, AS MUCH of a woman as any statically gendered woman when they experience womanhood, and JUST AS NONBINARY as any statically gendered enby when they experience enbanhood? Can we get it through our heads that some people experience multiple orientations at different times, and they are AS MUCH of a lesbian when they experience lesbianism, AS MUCH of a veldian when they experience veldianism, JUST AS STRAIGHT as any other straight person when they feel themselves straight, and JUST AS MSPEC when they experience attraction to multiple genders?
(there's also people who experience multiple orientations at once, statically, but we haven't even been normalized yet so. Yeah.)
‧₊˚✧ Lesboy Turigirl Rosboy ! ✧˚₊‧
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૮꒰ྀི ´ ᵕ `꒱აつ━☆‧₊˚ A label for those who are lesboys, turigirls and rosboys ! Gaybians / Velaurians can use this label .
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‧₊˚✧ Lesboy Turigirl Rosxenoboy ! ✧˚₊‧
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૮꒰ྀི ´ ᵕ `꒱აつ━☆‧₊˚ A label for those who are lesboys, turigirls and rosxenoboys ! Gaybians / Velaurians can use this label .
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‧₊˚✧ Lesboy Turigirl Azurgirl ! ✧˚₊‧
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૮꒰ྀི ´ ᵕ `꒱აつ━☆‧₊˚ A label for those who are lesboys, turigirls and azurgirls ! Gaybians / Velaurians can use this label .
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‧₊˚✧ Lesboy Turigirl Azurxenogirl ! ✧˚₊‧
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૮꒰ྀི ´ ᵕ `꒱აつ━☆‧₊˚ A label for those who are lesboys, turigirls and azurxenogirls ! Gaybians / Velaurians can use this label .
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Pronouns do not indicate gender. Someone can be a girl and go by he/him pronouns. Someone can be a boy and go by she/her. Someone can be nonbinary and go by she/he or literally anything else. Gender is fake, let people mix and match. It’s not gonna hurt the community I promise.
At the same time, sexuality is not all rules and stuff. Someone can be a boy and lesbian if that’s what suits them. Someone can be a girl and mlm if that’s what suits them. There’s no reason why we have to be so uptight about this.
It's okay to use contradictory labels. I know, I'm probably being redundant here. But I want to make sure anyone who hasn't heard it today gets to chance to hear it. You're valid. I don't care if you're a boy in whatever way, and you're also a lesbian, nor do I care if you're a girl in some way and also gay. I don't mind if you're omni, pan, bi, poly, or abro and a lesbian/gay. Are you aroace spec as well as mspec? Nice! Are you a mixture of all of these things? Something I missed? Cool!
Complicated identities are no less valid than identities that fit into boxes. And I will keep saying that, because there are still people in the world who insist on what you can and can't be (I swear I've said something like that word for word before, but sbsbs), whether it be your average homophobic grandpa or some exclusionist on twitter.💀
This started off as a multigender rant but includes other things, because I'm so pissed off at the queer community for these things that I need to fit it all in one post. Sit back and prepare for this, it's a long read (also feel free to scroll past) being multigender sucks because I feel too paradoxical to be taken seriously. It doesn't help that I'm also agender :/ Like yeah, identity is your own and you shouldn't shave off parts of it to appease others, but damn does the 'passive' hostility and invalidation towards multigender people such as myself make me feel pushed towards changing myself sometimes. You can scream into the void all you want about being normal about multigender people and how they label their experiences, but some people just... never will be. That's what it feels like, from the fucking queer community as well as cishet society. It sucks. I can never be comfortable to explore my womanhood because then my manhood and agenderhood will never be taken seriously. Hell, the fact that I simultaneously experience gender AND being genderless is enough for people to just shit on me and exile me from queer spaces. The fact that I prefer ze/hir and it/its and nounself pronouns is enough for people to call me one of the bad ones. AND, the fact that I am more comfortable being perceived as a man suddenly makes me a 'danger to women'. There are so many issues with how multigender people, neurodivergent queers (literally any kind of neurodivergent, not just the neopronoun xenogender autistic person), queer POC, the list goes on are treated; if you aren't a white woman god help you, god forbid you're a man in any way either. And don't even get me started about how aroace people are fucking treated. I could go on for another few paragraphs about how I, as someone who is aroace spec and a plethora of other things, don't feel safe sometimes. I could go on and on and on. And fuck it, I will (under the cut because this post is already comically long):
'Aroace is a spectrum' this, 'all aroaces are valid' that, until you're romance/sex oscillating or even favorable, until you're polyamorous, until you're also a lesbian or a gay person or m-spec. Even in the fucking aroace community you're held by some bar of being aroace enough, and if you diverge even slightly god forbid. Allo fictives of aroace characters, hell even those who are aroace in a different way, have to listen to the incessant whining of the 'stop making sexual/romantic fiction of this character! they're repulsed in canon!' crowd. It's fucking obnoxious. Aroace people are already not taken seriously, aroallos and alloaces are already not taken seriously, and then you have the clown parade of people forcing their own idea of what they want you to be down your throat. The queer community and its many facets feel so fucking unsafe at times, and that sucks because we're all we've got. Some people don't have supportive family or connections outside of online queer spaces, and this is what they get. It's so incredibly shitty. I don't feel aroace enough because of my experiences, despite also having very stereotypical aroace experiences. I feel forced to constantly be sex/romance averse at times because again, god forbid you're ever favorable. I have two partners, okay? I have partners who I don't necessarily 'love' but care about a lot, and then I have to come across things that erase the fact that I am quite often averse to sex and romance because of this fact! People like me are constantly erased, and when they're represented in fiction people throw a hissy fit. "Oh you're forcing an aroace character into allonormativity!" Hey asshole: maybe, just maybe, aroace people can date just as much as they aren't required to. Fucking. Jesus. Some community this is, for there to be so much exclusion and hatred and segregation.
people who are hated and invalidated by even other queer people, stay alive.
if you want to enforce rules on everyone's sexuality and gender, I think you'd get along very well with queerphobic conservatives as you have similar interests. You'd just have to make sure they don't stop seeing you as one of the good ones and you'll be fine... probably. Just continue throwing the rest of the queer community under the bus and I'm sure they'll tolerate you for a little bit.
when 70 year old John Cishet understands that sexuality and gender can get wonky more than your average online queer exclusionist
'oh, so I'm a queerphobe now because I think xenogenders and neopronouns are fake?' yes.
'I'm queerphobic because I think mspec lesbians, turigirls, and the like are invalid and appropriating the labels of lesbian, bi etc?' yes.
what you are doing is misunderstanding a queer identity, failing to enlighten yourself, and weaponizing your own ignorance against a queer person and painting them as the problem. You are writing off the existence of a queer person because you don't understand, or maybe do not even want to understand, their identity. You brush it off as fake and nonsensical. You think it's appropriating your own experience.
That is precisely what transphobes do to all trans people, what transmeds do to the 'wrong' type of trans person. That is precisely what homophobes do to all lesbians and gay men. Make no mistake, that bigotry affects you too no matter how much of a 'good' or 'correct' trans person/gay person you are. And if you are an ally espousing this kind of blatantly queerphobic rhetoric, I hope you feel ashamed. Where you claim to be in support of the LGBTQ community, you throw certain members of it under the bus because it's too much for you. You don't get to make that call; you either support all queer people in their identities, or you do not support queer people. That makes you queerphobic.
so I got an 'anti good faith identities' blog recommended to me. Tumblr, what makes you think I, a user of good faith identities and hardcore supporter of those who do, want to see something like that on my dash? I mean, hey, it's a free report and block in the very least, but I'm here to enjoy my stay thank you very much.
You don't owe anyone a simple identity. Your identity can look like 'enchantment table language', a '2017 roleplay game', or any other dumbass insult people will throw at you. It doesn't matter; at the end of the day, you're just being yourself in the most authentic way, and they're the ones going after a queer person because they don't understand.
Hi, thanks for wanting to learn! Honestly, as a man adjacent person who lives as a man, my interest in women has never stopped feeling queer despite my relationship with manhood, and my connection with the lesbian label has not ever really gone away even as I started figuring out the specifics of my sexuality such as my place on the aroace and multi spectrums. I experience the split attraction model too, so I consider myself an aroace m-spec lesboy as well as aroace m-spec gay. Have you ever heard of 'everyone who is into me is gay'? It's like that but more 'it feels gay no matter who I'm talking about'.
I really want some m-spec gays & lesbians and turigirls and lesboys to talk to me about why they use those labels. (if you're comfortable)
I'm freshly out of a friendgroup that was anti "contradictory" labels and am trying to break that thought process.
Also because I may or may not be having a sexuality crisis but that's besides the point
how about instead of siding with queerphobes with this 'invalid' shit we as a community actually start behaving like a community. Ya know, like uplifting your fellow queer individuals and standing up for them instead of crucifying them for their identity you don't understand. Stop siding with a cishet queerphobe when the target is a 14 year old with nounself pronouns, or an adult lesboy with xenogenders, or, or, or. Stop acting like your identity is the only one worthy of respect.
I got a coward in my inbox crying about how a certain post (link) of mine sounds like 'conversion therapy' before supposedly blocking me, lol. at some point closemindedness and lack of reading comprehension ceases to be my problem, but as I have issues with how I worded things anyway I'm making this post.
when I said, 'give me more lesbians who date men, too' and 'give me gay men who also date women happily', I did not mean 'all lesbians and gay men should do this'. I know that some people would take it that way regardless of if I worded it better, but I was referring to mspec lesbians and gays being more out and proud with how they break the norms of what's expected of them as lesbians and gays. regardless of if you think these people are 'just bisexual', at the end of the day there are lesbians who date men and gay men who date women. again, this doesn't mean every single lesbian and gay does this or is obligated to do so, and I hate that my little post about inclusion and celebration of all queerness was taken as me trying to force queer people to do things they don't want to. I hate that I even feel the need to explain myself.
Alas, misconceptions are to be expected if your post is put on the radar of exclusionists. I could have worded it like 'allow the lesbians that want to date men to do so and let the gay men who want to date women do so, too' but I'm sure a problem would arise from that as well. It's saddening, as well as irritating, that there are people who go out of their way to misunderstand an inclusive post, but that's also why making these kinds of posts is important. It is important to stand in the face of exclusionary rhetoric and say 'we exist'. in a world that wants all queer people dead, it is important to uplift those who feel outcasted by our own community, and I don't care if I sound like a broken record here. I will never stop unapologetically being in the corners of m-spec lesbians and gays, lesboys and turigirls, and all of the other queer individuals that are pushed away for being too 'complicated', 'contradictory', and/or 'invalid'.
we exist, we will continue to exist, and we have always existed. we are as worthy of support and respect of our identities as anyone else. no identity is more worthy of scrutiny than another, and the true homophobia/queerphobia is pretending that there is a single 'invalid' queer person.