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The octocon app has a stealth mode to hide the app on your phone 👀

You can also add a quick exit button!

My brain at six years old when something traumatic happened

*forgets to update SimplyPlural/Octocon because I assumed I was still fronting instead of having blacked out for six hours*

same, plus we don't really care about the anti endo aspect, we know what resources to listen to etc etc

and honestly... wellll, Kyle said it best...

🤣

he was talking about me when i was experimenting with Octocon. we've already got things we're used to. they aren't perfect but they work well enough.

We feel strange because everyone is super mega happy for octocon, people are moving there and saying it's a super good alternative for SP and all that

But we don't like it :/

We'll continue in SP because we don't like Octocon, there a features that I would want to be added but it's already specified it won't, it lacks a lot of functions (I know they're gonna update it but still) and the interface kinda feel like it's too... Strange in a way that don't like

Cool for other systems, not cool for us... Gonna stick with Simply Plural maybe forever

Update us if octocon updates and becomes better, but for now SP still the winning app lmao

Not yet, despite what the website says. :)

is octocon on IOS yet?? i really want to try it out but i can't find it on the app store and the link on the website isn't working for me? but idk if that's my problem or if it's just not ready yet...

"why are you typing on your phone so much"

us: *texting ourselves on SimplyPlural, Octocon and Antar*

us: *tracking triggers and switches*

what we say: uh- uhh- uhhhhh- talking to a friend...?

*cutely redesigns your DID flag*

Playing around with our DID design assignment, tonight, and I made a thing...?

Look, it's just for funsies (and the assignment), I'm not expecting everyone to suddenly use my flag lol but I'd like to know, what do y'all think?

Coined for DID/OSDD (ie. complex dissociative disorders).

I took inspiration from the existing DID/OSDD symbolism in the Venn diagram (which is also a logo I'm using in the assignment). The colour scheme is inspired by the existing orange for DID, and the teal used in the OSDD flag coined by a deleted user on r/OSDD (and I've always thought of DID/OSDD as teal and orange!). The stripes are uneven to represent the fluctuating nature of having a CDD system, alters. The greenish-brown stripe is for amnesia and jarring day-to-day interruptions. There's a bit more meaning in it, but I can't remember right now.

I did a reverse image search with it, and it seems to be rather close to the pro non-traumagen "PMSC&" flag (according to pluralpedia..) and a little close to "venngender" which I hadn't heard of either until literally now... but…. apart from that little overlap… I think it's okay! Besides, there are only so many colour combos in the world!

Hope you like it!!

I can't tell anyone not to interact with this post: this is the internet, after all.. but we would appreciate it if it remained in DID/OSDD/trauma system spaces only.

Simply Plural on our end! The feature set works better for our needs, we're in the beta group, and we have too much data stored in it to happily switch to Octocon without a lot of effort — maybe once Octocon is on web, and we can quickly copy/paste from our current SP profiles we might more seriously consider switching (pun not really intended, but I'll take it).

We struggle to understand how to view Plural Kit information at a glance, and by the time we had access to PK, our system had already got used to the keyboard shortcuts for Tupperbox so we don't use it — if we're messaging on Discord, we use Tupperbox or nothing at all.

Besides, we feel safer with the little amount of information shown in a Tupperbox profile (and yes I am aware PK settings can be changed so that certain data doesn't show up: we just use TB, it's a personal preference).

Us personally use both SP and Octo but slowly transitioning to using Octocon only.

What platforms is SimplyPlural on? Ik its mobile, but idk what kind, or if it has browser version too. Thanks :3

All of the above, anon! Web, iOS and android :)

Links attached to their respective platforms - and link to SimplyPlural's main website.

There's also Octocon that has similar functionality as well as having discord integration similar to PluralKit and TupperBox, however it's only available for android at the moment - last I heard it's been planned to hit iOS in late 2024/early 2025; unclear when a web version is on its way.

We use a combination of TupperBox and SimplyPlural and have found that to work best for us as we use multiple operating systems, but use whatever software works best for you. <3

Let me know if you'd like a breakdown of why we use SimplyPlural + TupperBox; I'm most happy to do so :)

Small note with discord applications; messages can be traced back to your account - PluralKit especially has some issues regarding privacy as alters are automatically shown as public, and every PK user has a unique code attached to their system that allows anyone to look up their info. We wrote a post about it here.

Hi! I'd love a rundown of why you use PluralKit and Tupperbox! I've not looked much into did management apps before tbh

Awesome! This is adding on from this post about SimplyPlural.

Your main options for tracking apps are SimplyPlural and Octocon.

Octocon is currently only available on android while SimplyPlural is on web, android, iOS and can be run as a program/pinned to taskbar on Windows (I don't know how but one of my sysmates installed it as a web app program 😅).

Main options for discord proxying (or messaging as an individual); PluralKit, Tupperbox and Octocon. All three are added to a server as a bot, and allow for a proxy/app message that displays as a different username but remains linked to your account.

Using commands specific to each application, users can find out who posted each message.

Okay so back to the question

Why do we use TB and SimplyPlural instead of the alternatives?

SimplyPlural

Super easy explanation: we've been using SimplyPlural longer than Octocon has been around. We've got about 16 months worth of tracking data, friends, 40 or so custom fields saved in it, along with all our alters and personal info. Making the switch to Octocon was something we tried when it was first announced, but we decided against it after giving it a test run as both an app and as a discord bot. We had some issues with importing custom fields and image hosting.

For those of you who don't know, custom fields are categories, or questions that you can ask an alter to fill in; some come built in like favourite colour, food etc, however you can also add your own as needed. Ours include everything from name, internal relationships (e.g. alter A hates alter B but adores alter C, alter C is alter D's child, alter C and B are siblings etc), skills, favourite things, and positive/negative triggers, amongst other things. We use them all the time, and a fair number of our alters have filled in the questions - losing that information was not something we wanted to do (..or heaven forbid... copying all of it over from existing SimplyPlural profiles). I suspect this is something that Atlas, the developer, is working on.

Presently, Octocon doesn't have the functionality we need/are used to from SimplyPlural. Sooo, onto some positives; things we adore about SimplyPlural

>The ability to host images within custom fields and alter descriptions, using '' allowing us to do things like this...

Kaden learnt how to do this and posted about it at the time, since then he has since been slowly explaining to the rest of us how to do it.

Our SimplyPlural profiles are one of the places where we can be fully ourselves without worrying as much about the collective's outward appearance etc; some of us dress our profiles up with collages, fancy text, banners, and flags while others just have a bit of information or an empty bio; it's completely up to the individual (and not being biased or anything, but our personalities really show up in profiles).

> Front history

Having a full breakdown of fronters past (as long as they log it) is super helpful, especially when our therapist wants to check in on triggers etc. It also helps us to figure out when an alter may have gone dormant or may only appear at specific times. I specifically like that it gives you a visual breakdown of who was fronting during what time, and it holds information on individual alter profiles about when they fronted, and for how long.

>Privacy buckets

This is something I posted about a few days ago. The current beta version has reworked the privacy settings from public (all friends), trusted friends (selected people) and private (your system only) to entirely in the user's control. Instead of having 3 options, you can make specific categories for groups of friends, or even label each of your friends with one bucket and choose each alter, custom field and custom front they can see.

@persmo made a really detailed post on this in late August that I've linked here.

>Friends

The ability to change the amount of data friends are able to see (eg. ee shared members, see fronter etc)

>Message Boards

Each profile has their own message board. Messages left on boards send a notification to the phone when that specific alter fronts, meaning if someone forgets to check the shared chat, they still get the information. Notifications will continue being sent every time they mark front until that alter marks the message as read.

Being able to leave messages for each other has been a literal lifesaver.

>In-system Chat

SimplyPlural has a section where you can chat solely within your system. It functions a bit like Discord in the way that you set up sections with individual chats inside of them.

We use them for fun things like silly quotes, reading logs, infodumping, as well as more serious things - if something happened to someone we love, we'd mark it in there to make sure the information is passed on to those who need to know.

>Groups

Alter groups are incredibly helpful for us, even though we're a relatively small system. We use them as tags for interests, roles, ages and tagging sources for our few introjects.

Tagging interests and roles often ends up looking like this 😆 I promise it makes sense to us... ish.

>Analytics

System analytics is one of the features we use a lot in therapy, especially now that we have more than 6 months data saved in SP tracking. We can see at a glance how much one alter has fronted in a set amount of time, and how many times they have tracked as fronter.

>App reminders

SimplyPlural allows for users to set reminders at specific times (eg. everyday at 3pm take your meds) but also that the reminders are sent after an action happens. We have an automatic reminder set up for a set amount of time after someone marks front, to make sure they are still fronting.

>Honourable mentions

System polls

Switch notifications (both for our friends and for when our system friends switch)

'Quick front entries' - adding a member to front history if they didn't track

User reports; reports generated by SimplyPlural that remain attached to a URL that can be sent to family, friends, therapists etc without giving your SimplyPlural username or making them get the app.

Cross platform support: SimplyPlural runs on android, iOS and web, meaning as long as our friends have a log in they can use it... and we can run it on all our devices.

I've totally missed some things, but they're the most important points

TupperBox

This section is shorter, promise.

We chose TupperBox over PluralKit and Octocon as we didn't want to have any personal data (beyond names) linked to our discord. PluralKit has the capacity to have member profiles, however the trade-off is having a system ID number that is attached to every member profile (no matter how tight your privacy is) that can be used by anyone to pull up any linked information that's marked public. More information on why here.

PluralKit makes users automatically public with commands and the online portal being the only way to change it. Unfortunately, many treat PluralKit as if it's private and often include extremely personal things in their descriptions (triggers, sexuality, etc). More conversation on that here.

Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with Octocon's integration on Discord, but I have heard pretty good things about it.

Tupperbox has less functionality than PluralKit and Octocon in that it's mostly streamlined for role-playing simplicity. All that displays when you send a proxy message is the name of the tupper/user and an optional profile picture, which we drastically prefer. It sucks not being able to bring up a profile to say who we are, but we'd rather have that than have our PluralKit leaked.

All of this is personal preference, use whatever you find works best! :)

Hey! Saw your post about Octacon, just wondering what your experience with it is/if it's worth checking out as an alternative to Simply plural? We're just not personally fans of Sp's layout and have only just heard of Octacon

It's 100% a viable alternative to SimplyPlural if you're on android - it's not on iOS yet, last I heard iOS is in development and aiming to be launched in late 2024/early 2025. Octocon doesn't have the web app version (yet) so if that's something you use a lot then it may not work out as well.

SP vs Octo layout

If you find SP's layout pesky, definitely give Octo a go! Currently, Octo doesn't have quite as many features as SimplyPlural but it's a very new app atm and it's improving very quickly :)

If you use discord a lot; it also has a baked in set of features, similar to TupperBox and PluralKit that allow for proxy messaging

There's a lot of information available octo's discord if you're curious: link (https://discord.com/invite/octocon)

[and a little reminder that octo is aimed at CDDs but they aren't banning any systems with other origins from using it — full details of post in alt text]

Plus, Octo has a minecraft server for Patreon supporters if that's something you're into XD

We have another post explaining our personal usage of SP if anyone is curious

Reblogging for anyone who might be interested. We joined the testing program right before the app was fully released.✨️

You can import things from Pluralkit into the bot so you don't have to remake your entire system. The app has collective journals and alter-specific journals. It has global autoproxy, so you don't have to type pk;ap l first thing into every server you join lol (they are planning on making this feature opt-in from what I remember).

It uses slash commands and the commands do that (Only you can see this message) so you don't spam servers when editing shit. There's no long list of commands to memorize because you can just type "/" and fuck around.

It's good, is what I'm saying.💖

Octocon is a new app for systems. It's anti endo and made by traumagenic systems. It also has a discord bot that is a lot easier to use than pk in my opinion. You can also sync your app and the bot so you can edit alters in the app. The app is on android already and coming to IOS soon. Hope this helps some people :)

(If you're in a server, I recommend adding this bot as more people are starting to use it instead of pk and tupperbox)

wow! that movie was so good and made me feel a lot of feelings. i even cried! i love robots so much. what an incredible piece of fictio-

that specific tingling in the back of my skull

...oh fuck.

pk;m new edgar

/alter create [name:edgar]

We feel strange because everyone is super mega happy for octocon, people are moving there and saying it's a super good alternative for SP and all that

But we don't like it :/

We'll continue in SP because we don't like Octocon, there a features that I would want to be added but it's already specified it won't, it lacks a lot of functions (I know they're gonna update it but still) and the interface kinda feel like it's too... Strange in a way that don't like

Cool for other systems, not cool for us... Gonna stick with Simply Plural maybe forever

Update us if octocon updates and becomes better, but for now SP still the winning app lmao

Like, systems are so hype and calling octocon the best app and solution when it's pretty... Meh 😐

Simply Plural has way better functions and things because is more developed, plus Octocon has a lot of bugs and it's unfinished and it's pretty new for me ??? /neu

Asking a system to stop using SP and change to Cotocon is wild, I would never, I don't like how Octocon is right now, and because of some features that won't be added for me is probably a forever no-no

Octocon is not perfect because is still in developing, I think it would be a lot better for the app to release when it wasn't full of bugs and all the basic functions that you can look they function properly, but that's a me thought :p

I think all the hype and emotion surrounding it is just because it's anti endo and... I don't give a shit about that, endos are probably gonna use it anyway so... I don't see a point for it

If it's not broken don't fix it

We feel strange because everyone is super mega happy for octocon, people are moving there and saying it's a super good alternative for SP and all that

But we don't like it :/

We'll continue in SP because we don't like Octocon, there a features that I would want to be added but it's already specified it won't, it lacks a lot of functions (I know they're gonna update it but still) and the interface kinda feel like it's too... Strange in a way that don't like

Cool for other systems, not cool for us... Gonna stick with Simply Plural maybe forever

Update us if octocon updates and becomes better, but for now SP still the winning app lmao

Bro it's a mix of funny and sad that when the developers of octocon stated the app isn't anti-endo not it's receiving hate, backlash or similar things, people started to delete it or leave it and it's quite funny

Not funny because I'm delighted of this happening to the developers of octocon, but because of how hypocrite and double moral this people are yk?

Anyway, people stop being disappointed when the expectations that YOU make with the assumptions that YOU make without the creators confirming it or saying something about it challenge, level imposible (Half anti-endo community just lost LMAO)